 Well we're getting down to the business end of the 2015 NCHA Ferturity. We just had the final of the non-pro division and the winner was Amando Costanetto who won on Watch Me Whip with a 224 congratulations Amando. Thank you. How does it feel to be in the Will Rogers and to win a non-pro Ferturity title? Yeah I guess that's everybody's dream and it just feels great. I guess this is the big show and that's the one that everybody wants to win and I just got lucky today and got it done. Well there's a bit more than luck. You've been working a long while now you've trained this, bred and trained this horse haven't you? Tell us a bit about this horse. Yeah John Mitchell you know he worked for us for a year and he, we bought her mama at the two-year-old sale and I was fourth on her the Ferturity and John made the Ferturity finals on her and John really wanted to breed her to a playboy stud and we decided to go for a play gun and we raised her and we broke her in at the house and we rode her whole three-year-old year at the house and you know I rode her myself during her three-year-old year and she's a special horse, she's a good one. When did you feel like she was special? Have you known the whole time or did it really come apparent as she got older? No she was a real nice two-year-old, she was a real nice two-year-old Mary. So how are you feeling in the lead up to this event about how the horse was developing and coming along and what your chances were? Yeah she's always been real solid and never had a problem with her, she's just been pretty simple and she has so much good stuff she can stop and she's carry and she's so greedy and I thought if I could cut the right chaos we had a good chance. Now sadly the stud play gun died yesterday, what happened there? I'm not sure what happened but I'm just happy that she got to win and everybody will remember him a little bit more I guess. Absolutely and it's your birthday today, you couldn't have asked for a better birthday present and you've got the Brazilian contingent here to celebrate with you tonight? Yeah that's probably the best present I ever got in my life. Well congratulations, thanks Armando. Thank you.