 Let's talk Celtics. We saw you there. 13 and 4. Best record in the NBA. As far as Celtics starting fives go where are you putting this one of all time yeah I mean it's too early for now it's too early for that the jury is still out we got to see what they accomplish and if they can stay healthy all the way through but I like this team I like the makeup I think Adam Drew I mean was was amazing to be able to get a guy like that with championship experience a guy who's gonna allow Jaylin and Jason to still be great offensive players who's not going to get in their way and take shots away from them so I love what they put together I think they got a great chance to make a deep run get to the finals and hopefully win a championship I love this team they put together all right I know how Paul would answer this question but you Paul Pierce that that lineup how would y'all fare against this version of the Celtics they're deeper than us I gotta be honest they're deeper than us from you know they're probably they can go eight nine deep when me and Paul was together we probably was six deep oh man I mean we probably played six guys me and Paul played 40 42 minutes a night we wasn't we didn't have the depth that these this team has right now Antoine you're a part of the maybe the best drive class in NBA history in 1996 you Kobe Allen Iverson Ray Allen Steve Nash Stephon Marbury at the time who did you think was going to be the top dog the best player in that class myself I mean don't I don't think arguably I think we do have the best drive class if you really look from top to bottom honestly if you go into the second round and guys that have been very productive in the league and had good careers we probably do got the best class from top to bottom um but I mean it's tough I mean I that time you're thinking for me I'm feeling like it was a situation you guys gotta remember the Celtics had limb by a situation that just happened they they had a really tough drafting tough Dominique Wilkins had left the year before and went over to Spain so for me it was an opportunity of a lifetime to get an opportunity to come in play and I'm always tell people what was overwhelming for me and actually was actually the best thing for me bird was still a part of the organization obviously red our back was still around and then you got Tommy Heisen doing obviously doing on tv the ML car is the head coach and GM Dennis Johnson is the assistant Casey Jones was the assistant as well so I came into a situation where I was around a number of greatness guys that knew how to win wanted to win so I was just a part of the first step in the rebuild process of getting the Celtics back to being a champion team all right Antoine you led the league in three point attempts three different times while you were in Boston someone famously asked you why you shot so many threes do you remember your answer that was all-star game after rough night it was all-star weekend I should say it was a rough night so I was a little frustrated with the you know with the questions at the time I really want to be there so I said oh because there's one no fours I mean that's a good answer I would laugh if somebody gave me that answer um look you were a man ahead of your time because now you know people are shooting threes left and right what made you why did you shoot so many threes I was very lucky um I got Jim O'Brien became the coach after Rick Bettino left and Jim O'Brien coached me in college a lot of people don't know that he was the head assistant coach at the university of Kentucky so he knew my game really really well and he basically gave me the green light uh he wanted me to shoot eight to ten threes a game he thought that was a big part of what we could do space and wise Paul me and Paul being on the same floor that's what we had our success at because if you're gonna double Paul then you're gonna leave me open to be able to shoot a three so it was just I got a credit you know Jim O'Brien for actually opening a flood gates for me and allowing me to shoot so many threes and not you know getting on me I know it was tougher fans in the beginning I had to deal with the boon and sometimes you know you know people getting on me but um the coach and the team knew that was part of our our game playing every night see booing it's part of the game by the way would you guys be against if they ever added a four point shot to the game with that you know that because the records we can't do that don't do that look don't do that look lose thinking about it but you know what I I didn't I didn't really think about the records what did you get a cut off with the records you know like all right these are the new records yeah my give and take is it'll probably mess up the game because everybody isn't Steph Curry but it's definitely gonna be a lot of imitations but but I like the idea of a four-pointer so you've had you you've had obviously one of the more famous on-court celebrations with the shimmy I know I did I know I did growing up how did that come about do you remember your first time doing it tell us about the shimmy man come from college so in college we always used to dance and just having fun off the court and stuff like that so um in the game one game in college I did it and coach didn't say nothing you guys maybe you do you don't know coach patino's a really strict disciplined coach so he's and we pressed we pressed a lot so we played we were really pressing team so he was like look loans don't stop you from getting in the press you can do it all you want so I just kind of saved it for like three-point plays or like special moments during the game when I used to do it but they kind of carried over it's only one coach that told me I couldn't dance and that's when I went to Dallas Don Nelson told me he didn't want to see me dancing and that was that was the only coach that actually had a problem with it so but it was it was just it just became like natural it was something that just came out natural when I started playing and the fans started to like it in Boston and started to do it and then I think Tommy Heinz is the one that made it called the shimmy because I didn't give it a name wait did you ever do it in Dallas I did it one time he stopped me that's how he found out yeah he's like I don't want you dancing yeah I mean I'm gonna say I gotta do a dance it's all the family you gotta do right there he hates dancing is it is it true that is it true that shaggy out at you in game six of the finals for doing the shimmy what's the story on that yeah I got a we was gonna come back and I got an M1 in the third quarter and we was making that run and I started shimming on the floor man he came and snatched me up and he was like nah we ain't doing that yet so yeah he was he was shaggy his nerves like this he must have been nervous we've seen some of the guys this net today doing it now Steph will do it Dylan Brooks comes to mind you you got a favorite you got a favorite modern day shimmy that I like I mean I like I just don't like the fact that I don't get enough credit for it man I don't matter I like Steph's don't Steph's is really good yeah I like Steph shimmy um but I just don't like the fact that I don't get the credit for that I started that that I made it cool to be able to dance in the court yeah it's true you might not get it from the media but the players know by the way I love you did the shimmy um against Michael Jordan how did that go yes how's that work out it don't work out well listen the first my first three well Mike the first three years when I got a league I came in league in 96 obviously I wanted to get those great teams that won championships I was one 11 I won one game um and that was the first game that I played against them as a my second year we won the first game and I never told me I never win again and we never won again um but I got my revenge though um two things came the first thing first when he came back in old one um I was kind of the main guy Lou which I was the guy at Chicago that kind of ran the runs to pick up ball so he had to call me to get all the guys to come work out with him so that was that felt good about that he had to go through me um you know to get that going and then obviously I became very close with him and became a really good friend um in that in that time when he came back with the Washington Wizards from 2001 to 2003 and just got an opportunity to be around him but I I've never changed my my demeanor in the way I handle myself but I also dominate him too in those two years too we dominated him we got back we got back yeah yeah Antoine you like you said you did pick up to MJ you guys trained a lot together over the summers so what was that like what were those pickup games like um and also guys coming through I know LeBron came through at one point what were those runs like especially with LeBron in there well it's two parts to it one uh Michael wanted obviously when he came back he wanted to play against the best competition I think at that time if you think about Chicago history we probably had 20 pros 2025 pros just in the city alone so the runs were really good that you add the boys players and then obviously guys flew in the workout so those runs were legendary um Michael wanted real tough competition and really wanted you know put himself through a test on his way coming back um the funny story LeBron came he did come and LeBron didn't get a chance to play um he played at the end you guys don't know he didn't get a chance to play he was in high school he was young then right yeah he was young gave us a high school and I'm gonna be honest Tim Grover was one of those guys if he was a paying client the paying clients were gonna play first no matter what they were gonna get their workout in so LeBron got to play at the end so we didn't really get a chance to see LeBron really go at it because he played like the last two games but he did come up there for a weekend and worked out what it did individual instruction and those things but he didn't get a chance to get in the runs back then sounds funny that LeBron didn't get to play yeah did he ever did did he face off against MJ like did they because there's pictures of them on the court together no no that working now I said yeah individual instruction and that thing but I'm talking about the actual runs playing pick up ball and getting tense into it LeBron had to wait you know Mike gonna play four or five games y'all know that the the veterans gonna play four or five games then they put their ice pack on after that that's funny god that's weird you also you you played on that Miami Heat 0506 championship team Shaq D Wade what was that like playing with those two future Hall of Famers um it was it was special man not just those two I'm you know I would be remorse to leave out Gary Payne and Eliza morning um those two guys as well being able to play with those Hall of Fame guys and then playing for Pat Rowley um but it was fun I mean the way we put the team together um it wasn't perfect you gotta remember Stan Van Gundy was the coach for the first 20 games before Pat ended up coming down coaching and it was it was a roller coaster ride because Shaq ended up missing the first 20 games he got hurt the first game of the season so we had to figure it out so it wasn't the prettiest season but the goal was only to win the championship that's all we cared about we knew if we got it together jailed at the right time we got in the playoffs nobody could beat us and obviously Dwayne Wade had one of the most amazing finals that we've we've ever seen that that year um he was just he was simply amazing championship was accomplished you guys pulled it off you gotta let me in how crazy did y'all go in South Beach after winning that championship well we won it in Dallas so we stayed in Dallas this is crazy we stayed in Dallas till about three four in the morning and we asked Koski we go back so we end up charging the flight early like eight because we wanted to get back to Miami uh but you know uh we went to the strip club we did we did Dallas gentlemen we're to the strip club we did we went there and had a ball and it was something it was special Miami especially you know that's what the details of it I don't want to get to that but we spent a lot of money that night yeah we got this with a lot of money we had a ball it was it was uh for me personally you know I always tell the story I went I party for 30 days 30 nights 30 for 30 what as you as you should how I mean it's summer anyway right yeah but 30 nights that's a lot there's no shoot around tomorrow no I went I went 30 I took one of my boys and we tried to hit all the proper cities I was going to the espies I'm gonna tell you I tapped out probably like day 23 I supposed to met the team and for the espy awards and I think I got alcohol boys and I think I was done I didn't make it to the war you know what having gone you didn't miss anything you're fine you're good but I didn't make it you could go back and look at the foot I didn't make it that total team made it I couldn't make it I was it was it was a time I tried it I tried to go 30 days but I like the 22 23 that's pretty good that's a heater that's a real heater or for me is a lot two in a row is a lot don't do that don't do that don't try to make it seem like I'm like I'm like oh no no it's legendary yeah if y'all guys have you had to run the week seven but you know we just I'm currently on one right now there's no hate coming from me that's something party about we just no reason after that oh six NBA finals I think D-way was considered by some to be the best player in the league what do you think made him so great and be able to emerge as one of the best players in the league if not the best player in the league in 0-6 um D-way worked at the was incredible I think a lot of people don't notice if you were behind the scene but Eric the way Eric's approaching him and worked every day he played a huge part in Duane's development of his individual skills I mean the way those guys to work every day and work on different moves and trying to perfect in this game um but D-way was special because he wasn't your typical two guard I mean he attacked the basket like no other he wasn't the guy that was gonna shoot bail you out and shoot four or five threes a game he was gonna continuously be in attack mode he was one of the best off the ball defenders are getting the pass lane to get down the break great in transition so um especially watching them at that time just young way was it was something special he was super athletic um to get to any spot in the court and also his competitors you know I mean I was I'm being a little biased I'm from Chicago but he has that competitive drive uh like no other to be to be great so that's what I think separated D-way because D-way is only like six two six three on a good day crazy like he ain't like he ain't he ain't like six five six six walking around but you know he finished it you know the way he finished around the basket you would think thought he was that big recently KG sat down with paul pierce and said that jordan pool literally doesn't belong in the NBA harsh facts do you agree with it do you think it's a little too much what's your take on it yeah that's a little bit too much he definitely deserves to be in the NBA this guy I mean he's been I mean his production speaks for itself um obviously you know you know it's off the court I don't know him personally I mean obviously you know it seems like he gets into different situations with different guys streaming from the jaymark green situation so maybe that's what it is but basketball and the ability wise and the way the game is set up now yeah he definitely can be in the league I mean he definitely should be in the league great three-point shooter go get his own shot it's tough to say that but I don't know what he's like off the court so that's that's the problem I never got the chance to meet him so I mean those guys may know some you know some secrets that I don't know man did not deserve it all right Antoine we appreciate the time this has been awesome thank you so much for joining us oh thanks for having me guys I'd love to show you guys doing great thanks man come on anytime we've got more after this let's go Icon