 So here we have the USB Type-C with the Nexus 6P. USB Type-C is available right now in phones and mass market. Everybody's getting them. Right, so we have a large number of phone suppliers who are now incorporating USB Type-C as their connector to replace the Micro-B. This is the market adoption. You expect how many billions of people? That was showing up to two billion units per year, shipping it by 2019. Two billion units by 2019? That are Type-C based. So who are you? I'm Brad Slaunders. I represent the USB Implementers Forum. And as a volunteer I actually work for Intel so I help manage the forum itself and inspect the development. So who invented USB Type-C? Somebody did invent like a group of people. There was a group of people under our management that invented it as a spec development. We had 20 different companies involved in that specification including companies like Google and Apple and HP and Intel, Samsung and others. So everybody agrees? Everybody wants faster speed? They want more stuff? They want easier usability, right? A connector that can flip and can be swapped in either direction left or right. Doesn't matter which direction the cable goes. They want a connector that can go faster and grow with the use model for USB over the next 10 years. So even today it runs 5G and 10G. It'll run more later. So 10G is more power? Over there, the Dell, it's the same port as USB Type-C but you can do other stuff? You can do Thunderbolt? Right, there are alternate modes that can be supported. One of the key alternate modes out there is the DisplayPort Alternate Mode. That's a standard space alternate mode. In the case of Dell, they're shipping a product that uses a vendor specific alternate mode, in this case Thunderbolt. So you can have either vendor modes or standard modes. And they do 40Gbps on the same port size? In Thunderbolt, right. Does that mean potentially USB Type-C is going to support a kind of bandwidth? Correct. USB can grow to that level of bandwidth as well. And then there's SlimPort just over there. Which is a version of DisplayPort. And now it again would be currently a proprietary mode. Okay, there's also the standard mode which is MHL that does Type-C. What does it mean standard mode? So both the MHL Consortium and the VESA organization, which is where DisplayPort comes from, have a working relationship with USB to have both standards coexist on the same connector. So that means all the stuff MHL has been talking about is now working even better on USB Type-C? We hope, yes. That was the plan. What kind of demos do you have here? You have Microsoft? So we have a Microsoft phone behaving as a PC running Windows 10 with a 1080p display. And what they're doing is they're running DisplayPort and USB simultaneously to a dock. They're getting power from the dock. The dock has an HDMI connector to run the display. It has a USB-C connector to get power from a power dongle. It's running additional USB devices including a thumb drive and a wireless keyboard and mouse. That's awesome, right? It's a dock. A complete solution in one little package. So basically is it future-proof USB Type-C? Is it going to be there for like 100 sub-years? Is it? We certainly are planning to be here for 10 years or more. We'll see if it makes it past 10 years. The current USB is, what, 20 years old? So, yeah, we think it will be here for quite a while. There's no Type-D. No Type-D. No Type-D. This is the Apple... And they have no port except one USB Type-C? Yes, Type-C. And by the way, it can run off of this display as well. We can unplug. Let's see. Now we're going to unplug this one. And we're going to plug it into here. So now the Mac will recognize the monitor through a Microsoft dock. Really? And it's receiving power. And it can access the thumb drive. And it can even access the keyboard. Does the device potentially get updated and support like kind of like better resolutions and stuff? Or is it 4K? Right now, it's whatever display for a resolution runs. So, the display support standard, the full standard is supported. Full 4K capability. And when the display port evolves, it will work with the same cable. Cool. And there's the Samsung... That's the Samsung brand new Galaxy Tab Pro-S. This isn't even shipping yet. It's brand new. This is Intel? This is an Intel 4M running Windows 10. And this is OnePlus? OnePlus 2. This is the Nexus 6P. And there's lots of cables here in the table. Oh yeah. Is it very important that the cables be certified? Certified. What happened otherwise? What could happen? Well, what can happen is if you get it from a supplier that doesn't have the quality or the right design in their cable, you could potentially damage your product. Is it hard to make a USB Type-C cable? No, it is not hard. It's a matter of actually following the spec and then testing the spec. We have had a lot of situations where some markets wanted to get ahead of all the certified product to try and make money quickly. And that's where we've been experiencing some poor product. But the market is starting to work that out. And users are becoming smarter about it, right? They're reading reviews. They're buying products that get good reviews. They're buying products that are truly certified. But any factory is allowed to make USB Type-C? The spec is an open royalty spec, yes. And what's the royalty? Zero. Zero? Zero royalty on the spec. So any Shenzhen factory can just start making them free? They can build to our standard, yes. The spec is royalty free. Now they should become an adopter in order to get that royalty free protection. And that adopter is like a yearly... There's no cost to be an adopter. Zero cost to be an adopter. Just signing an agreement. That sounds nice. Yes, it is nice. That's cool. That's the power of USB as a market. And these phones, for example, this is a fantastic phone and it's charging pretty fast. Is it 3A? This one runs 15 watts, which is running 3 amps and 5 volts. So that means that if you have a bad cable, it could be a problem for the phone, right? Well, what will happen is... If you don't charge it right... This phone has the ability to manage its current, its load, based on the quality of the cable. So if the voltage starts to droop, it knows it's drawing too much current, it will back off. Which means it'll run a little slower, it'll charge slower. So all of these devices, none of them will break due to a bad USB cable? Well, if the cable is not delivering all the voltage, it should protect itself, yes. Now, there has been an example of a cable on the market where the cable supplier from an unknown country crisscrossed the wires. And that unfortunately caused damage to a product. And a lot of press was given to that product, because they literally crossed plus and minus. That cable was completely wrong. And it's hard to protect against something that, you know, like plugging the plus and minus completely wrong. But most cables, the quality issue has to do with the quality of the wire. And those will draw if they lose voltage, because the wire is not as thick as it should be, for example. These will protect themselves and just draw less power. So Apple had this dual-sided cable for like two or three years now, right? Is the USB Type-C inspired by what Apple did? Well, certainly. That helped the market recognize the value of a use model, right? Yeah. Flipability. So, yeah, I mean, to a large degree, the other OEMs obviously saw the value in what they get. But this has gone well beyond what Lightning can do, because it is, after all, it's a 24-pin connection. And the connector on the Lightning solution is targeting a USB 2 market and an Apple market. Do you think you'll see more? Remember, Apple is a member of this workgroup as well. So obviously, they help contribute. So what happens if we connect this one here? What's going to happen? I don't know what's going to happen. Does it have a video out? It doesn't have a video. It does not have display. So it's not like a compulsory thing. You don't have to do all this stuff. You just do some of it. The alternate modes are optional. How you do an alternate mode is normatively defined, meaning to do an alternative mode right, there is a specification. But whether you implement it or not is your choice as an OEM. So what's the difference between this one and that one? This phone has some extra stuff on the SoC or the PCB that does all this stuff. They added the DisplayPort technology to the silicon on the circuit board. So it's on the SoC? I think it's a separate chip on their circuit board. Extra chip? Yes. Like how much does it cost that chip? Like one or two dollars or less? I have no idea. You should ask Microsoft how much that costs. Because this functionality is fantastic, but I wish it was everywhere already. It's kind of like a little bit of fragmentation here, right? Sorry? Yeah, this one does. Well yeah, he saw that. I connected it to this. So I think what's happening is the PC industry and the phone industry are learning what the users want. It's obviously clear that the PC industry quickly picked up on they want to split. All the PCs pretty much including now we find out this new Samsung all support DisplayPort. And by the way, you can take that Samsung product and plug it into the dongles from people like Apple and it works. But would the MHL style also work? It's a matter of whether the OEMs want to implement MHL or not. So Microsoft would have to implement it in their dock also? They would have to, both sides would have to implement it. And as of now, as far as we understand, that isn't the case. Is that part of a product plan we don't know. We don't establish their product plans for them, right? We've just written the specs, told them how to go do it, and now they have to decide what costs. But does USB Type-C do this kind of display output that's not MHL, not Slimport? Or is it either... You can do USB-based display as well, yes. So there's also another... So you can run just normal USB traffic and carry display content. And there are a number of monitors on the market today that do that kind of thing, from people like Dell and others that actually operate in the USB domain. They do not run DisplayPort through the cable. And if you connect right here, there's a bunch of USB cables on the back. What if you have two or three hard drives, you can transfer stuff? Does it have to do with the SOC's performance, the memory bandwidth? How fast you can get stuff going in and out? Well, it's what version of USB they're running. So in this case, the phone happens to be running a USB 2 connection. But we're able to pull content like video, because most of the video files are compressed, right? So it runs really well. Why is it USB 2? It's not USB 3 speed. They did not... Microsoft, for whatever reason, chose to only put USB 2 in this product. It probably has to do with the cost and the use model. Right now their use model works fine. We'll see how much longer before they decide what to do. Nice. So that's going to be very cool, interesting what's going to happen in Mobile World Congress and 2016 with the USB Type-C stuff happening.