 Hi guys welcome back to Daniel Rosal on YouTube, Israel and Jerusalem Unpacked. This is another installation in my Hamas interrogation videos dubbed series, dubbing the Hamas interrogation videos as they come out through the various channels. Just before we get started with this video I wanted to make a couple of glossary notes for those unfamiliar with the terminology. Two words come up a lot in this inter in this particular video. One of those is the Nubba and one of those is Qasam. So Nubba is the special force units of Hamas that participated extensively in the October 7th massacre in Israel. It's a smaller unit than the Qasam and when they talk about the Qasam it's a shorthand for is a Dean of Qasam Brigades and that's the military wing of Hamas. So Hamas is actually both a sort of political charitable institution in Gaza and it has a army as such. Sometimes they actually refer to it as the army and that's the Qasam Brigade. So like in any sort of army as you'd expect the special force elite unit as such is smaller than the bigger one. In this case the Nubba being the special forces and the Qasam being equivalent to the normal standing army. So let's go and listen to this particular tape. So the first line is remind me of your name Salim Salim Amr Salim Abu Ayyad and where are you from in Gaza? I'm from Rafa. So from 2018 you've been in the Nubba, correct Omar Sami Marduk Abarusha where you're from in Gaza the Gaza the Iltafa neighborhood and you're also in the Nubba right? Correct. Since when have you been in the Nubba? Between eight months to a year. And where are you from? I'm from Rafa the Shiborah neighborhood. What's your profession? You told me you're a student right? That's correct. How old are you? I'm 21. And what are you studying? I'm studying nursing a bachelor's degree. What's your position in the Qasam? First aid responder. What does that mean? First aid responder to the department. When did you join? A year and a half ago to the Nubba yes. When you entered into Israel on October 7th. What was your mission? Kidnapping. Those were your commands? That's correct. Tell me about the course you dated on the subject of first aid. The course is a medics course officer drivers and ambulance drivers. Who organized the course? The Red Crescent? No, not the Red Crescent. The Red Crescent does offer the same course but this course was connected to the Hamas military. Half of the participants were civilians and the other half were from the Al Qasamburgate. The head of military services came. We were 35 people in total. He said that the Al Qasamburgate asked those names to be alone or separated. So we understood that we were all members of the Qasamburgate. At the third meeting just when we began the course the first question he asked us was in case you're an ambulance driver, selected as one and the commanders call you or someone calls you on behalf of the commanders that they want you to drive to a place in the east on the Israeli border near the border fence the dangerous place because now there's an invasion or something close to an invasion is occurring. Would you go to that place or would you not? Most of the guys said no to endanger an ambulance and to endanger myself. For sure not interested. His answer was no you have to go. Okay why? Because the commander's orders are above everything. There may be wounded people there. There may be for example a soldier who's with them that they're unable to take a soldier you mean to kidnap? Yes so they take him with them they kidnap him into the ambulance. They may have a device fitted with them for example if they took a valuable device that they want to take with them what do you mean a valuable device for example a weapon an imported weapon for example that they didn't kidnap a soldier but they might take his weapon or they took a camera with important material on it from the body of the soldier you'd have to take that because the commanders see the whole picture if they sent you then they understand the situation in the field and when the ambulance can drive and take the activists and everything they have with them and come back so what's what what's special about the ambulance why use an ambulance to avoid suspicion? So you're not suspected that's correct you'll be suspicious in them so they don't blow up or target the ambulance they don't bombish the Israelis I understand does Al-Qasam have their own ambulances yep they have their own ambulances too where are they I marked them earlier on the map they're generally found in military camp in the camp and they also have a place that isn't in the camp they have a parking lot which is not in the camp you told us about ambulances which you that Al-Qasam have correct where are they located in the in a certain camp okay meaning they don't look like military ambulances they look like civilian ambulances that's correct why so that it looks similar to civilian ones and they won't be bombed by Israel and what do you do with them during peacetime they remain at the base and if there are injuries or wounds during training because all of our training is with live fire and during combat they're used for evacuating the wounded or civilians or the combatants the commanders and the soldiers what else can be transported in those ambulances during the war really anything that's important like what for example anything important to where the commander is and really anything needed for the battle what's the advantage of transporting important people commanders and ambulances are not in regular cars well Israel doesn't attack ambulances meaning you know that we want to talk ambulances right that's correct they can transport their equipment in them such as food explosive devices weapons they transport all of these things in ambulances and why is it preferable to transport an ambulance is because it's safer because they're they're not we know that they're not going to get bombed the whole subject of medical care of clinics of hospitals is used for their benefit absolutely so they don't get bombed it's simple in this way they're able to transport that's how they transport everything in ambulances explosive devices weapons food medical equipment for the fighters for the soldiers of nuqba and al-qasam yes that's correct another thing i'd like to ask you about this building that you said is uh under located under the school that's right tell me about it so it's a building that they would use in order to store the important things like weapons rockets magazines for the weapons you know the important things for war in my opinion as well the important kidnapped people would be stored there too why don't they just use a regular house on the streets for that purpose what did you use a school or a medical clinic or a mosque so that people won't suspect and the israeli air force wouldn't expect that these things would be stored in a school and they won't therefore bomb it so as school students we know they won't bomb it what place do is does israel never bomb hospitals and what's the connection between the tunnels and hospitals hospitals most of them um are hiding in hospitals onora united nations relief works agency the medical clinics okay medical clinics under our hospitals and schools yes they are there how do they hide like in the shifa hospital for example in the shifa hospital there's a basement level they could store people in the basement shifa is a big place it's not a small hospital so they hide there they're hiding in shifa including the big guys the heads who's hiding in the shifa hospital you mean names no just in general the head it's the headquarters and what's the advantages of hospitals during war why is this place safe because we know it won't be bombed the senior is her or who are in a shifa who do you think they are the seniors like us in war those really everyone is there the senior political and military officials they're all located there is that logical do you think they take advantage of this area which is meant for weak and injured people a hospital that need treatment etc yeah they use it for themselves they exploit it you spoke about several locations where you set ambushes yep you prepared them for the moment that the israeli army would arrive that's correct so side roads that are used for driving the jeeps when they come whoever passes through will be very difficult to pass on this site what to choose for the booby traps we use mines that are activated by pressure pressure activated mines and how are the buildings booby trapped under the tiles or in the wall where do the cables that replace their lease the electric cables part of them lead to the mosque and part of them lead to the clinic to both places tell me about the mosque the mosque it spread over three different streets and we set all the cables inside the mosque and there we place the cables and the second cable is a medical clinic the clinic yes what's our clinic it's a small clinic please describe it to me first of all how many floors does it have two floors i'm not usually there he uses it usually there's you know nurses and people there civilians yeah civilians people people correct which doctors which specialities doctors for tonsils ENTs doctor for fevers pediatricians doctors for children and there's a pharmacy with medicine and there are secretaries who also give you prescriptions so usually civilians come to the clinic civilians regular people that's correct yeah so guys and civilians and the day the israeli army enters what occurs in that clinic meaning the cables if the mind doesn't explode from the pressure with pressure activator is relative heat then we activate it manually and there is equipment inside you press and it explodes