 Ha ha Times where you're just absolutely disappointed with your family members and when it comes to being slain in the spirit and family members Christians who also hold to this belief is very disappointing. Why? Because without question it is unbiblical. We talk about unbiblical again We see these this definition here You take the on the prefix the word Bible the suffix all means relating to or containing that literally means It's unbiblical so if it's not found in the Bible well Then it's a very definition of being unbiblical recently. I made it a short video Outlining or describer even asked for someone to get any sort of biblical defense for these things that are completely unbiblical and so there was one particular person who decided to give a Comment to say that what they what they were saying is unbiblical And I want to even look at their actual scripts They bring up because they believe there are scripts that are that make or state that being a slain in the spirit is Biblical for example this person keep up to I'm not sure this person is says Revelation 1 17 is an example Acts 9 4 Daniel 8 and 10 and 9 I suppose Ezekiel 1 28 will look at John 18 5 someone else chimes in as well I'm not sure if they even add even more scriptures and I won't go through all of them But what we're gonna do is we're look at some of these scriptures You're gonna find that that none of these are actual definitions or examples of being slain in the spirit What is slain in the spirit you all have seen the examples of it time and time again matter of fact What you've seen is what someone tries to put on us as this is a move of the spirit What you'll notice though when you look in the Bible when the when and obviously if God moves and someone wants to be so overcome That can happen can God make a person fall to their knees and so forth. Well, sure That's that's something we're talking about what we're talking about what we're seeing today in these churches When you compare what you see today in today's churches and these so-called many women of God who are being slain in the spirit compare actual encounters of people in the Bible with God and Notice their lives not at that moment, but notice them going forward. Look at the Paul's life Look at Peter's life. Look at John's life. Look at all of the the prophets. Look at the Apostles life Look at how the people of God when they had a true encounter with the Lord how they were matter of fact Notice that in comparison to the people today They're constantly going back for the same thing to be filled again to be slain again All of that only to be followed up with bad or horrendous doctor And we're gonna notice something when you ask for the people that are the folks they turn to the doctors those with some sort of scholarship Those who are leading larger ministries to give a defense for this They can't find scriptures, but again, let's go ahead and start looking at some of these scriptures And let's just see let's start with you know, let's start in John 18 five Here's one that they bring up on us. This says this is a person example someone being slain in the spiritual Let's go there John 18 five And says they answered him. This is when they come to see these Jesus They answered him Jesus the Nazarene. He said to them I am he and Judas also who was betraying him was standing with them So when he said it then I'm he they drew back and failed to the ground Therefore he said again to them. Who do you seek? So here's an example where he speaks and they fail back they draw back to the ground and it all of them fall I'll say so maybe so let's go with that. They all fell to the ground Is that them being slain in the spirit? Well, how could it be? This is this is when it becomes comical and just not even for this person to be taken serious How is this an example of them being slain in the spirit? Remember if they're going to be slain in the spirit and I understand the word slain is not there But mean they were so overcome by the spirit. They were in the spirit And they said these people didn't receive the holy spirit. These are not christians These are not people now if you're wanting to say that these folks This is what happens when sinners meet meet the lord Okay, is that what you're describing to to be a sinner and have this sort of encounter? These are not christians that so you couldn't point to this On just the basis of the fact that these are not christians To they didn't receive the holy spirit the holy spirit didn't enter them The lord spoke they fell back Do I believe the power of god can so overcome a person to knock them down? An enemy of god could blind them can kill them can burn However, god wants to do so. Yes, but this is clearly not an example This is not what happens at some of these churches or are we are we to say it? Maybe it's true Maybe what we're seeing if if what's happening in churches is what you see in john 18 Well, that means that all of you people that are falling out if you're going to use this passage Yeah, you're not safe So you won't you don't want to use that passage So let's go to the next passage that he brings up he brings up And this is not a neat particular order, but he brings up acts 9 4. Let's go to acts 9 4 And this is paul paul hearing From meeting the lord jesus on On damaskus Let's start in verse 3 as he was traveling it happened that he was approaching damaskus and suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him And he fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him saw why are you persecuting me? And he said who are you lord? And he said i am jesus whom you are persecuting But get up and enter the city now. Here's the question Was this an example of paul being slain in the spirit? Well, first of all Something else that we know that needs to be understood here Saul paul one is his jewish name one is a roman name But the question is this Did paul have the holy spirit at this moment two Was he slain in this case? This is him falling to the ground. This is him on his own. This is an Uh, uh eras active participle. It's not middle Uh, and so it seems to indicate this is him doing it to himself This seems to be him falling and in this case probably falling forward bowing because one paul is conscious paul knows what's going on He's responding back the lord is responding to him and then the lord tells him to get up meaning that he could get up So why would the lord tell him to get up if he knocked him down? Maybe the lord would bring him up? I don't know But one thing we do know for sure is that in this case paul did not receive the holy spirit How do we know because later on in acts we see him actually receiving the holy spirit? So again, this could not be an example of someone being slain in the spirit because They did they weren't in the spirit here We have just the lord show up and the encounter paul Humbles himself and bows down because when you're in the presence of god and you know what's the presence of god Well, then you would act accordingly. You would bow yourself over You would reverence who it is that you're standing before and and also this is why paul never loses conscious paul is Within his full faculties. He understands what's going on and he speaks And he responds to the lord and the lord responds to him and tells him to get up Why because paul was in control of himself and could get up And again All of this is happening with him not having received the holy spirit Now the next passage I want to go to is revelation 117. This is john He is speaking in loud patmos and look what he says. He says when I saw him I fell at his feet like a dead man and he places right hand on me saying do not be afraid I am the first and the last now Why is this not an example? Why is this a bad example? Matter of fact, it's not an example John is not slain in the spirit john is In the spirit knows what he says though. He says when I saw him. I fell at his feet Like this word host In the greek host or the english like this is what I was like I was I fell down like a dead man now, but here's the difference He did so he does so on his own And he understands what's happening. He's in full control full understanding what's happening. He's not slain He's not out the lord is speaking to him. This is what you do when you have a legitimate encounter Seems to be In this case having a legitimate encounter He on his own seems to be and there's that same word there where he falls where this is you doing it to yourself You are bowing over and he's in complete control. He's understanding now Are we going to take that every time that someone has an encounter with the lord there? There's a vision And the person goes to their knees or bowels over that that's being slain in the spirit because That would also that would mean that praying would be being slain in the spirit Anytime someone is praying and the president of the lord shows up. Well, that person's that person is slain in the spirit No, this is what you do Also notice what's missing from here. We don't see the person who is a believer having then The encounter of the spirit Because remember when we talk about someone being slain the spirit, we're talking about someone who's a christian Who apparently has the lord who has the who has placed their faith in christ And then an overcoming of the holy spirit comes upon them. We don't see this happening here We see an encounter. We see him having a vision We see him having being spoken to by the lord not the holy spirit coming and now now Am I am I going against the trinity? No, what I'm saying is that in this phenomenon that they described to us This is a christian who has the lord living in their heart and then the holy spirit comes upon them That's not what's happening here in john I mean in revelation and so again another bad example as a matter of fact Not an example of someone being slain the spirit and then we go to the old testament Let's look at a matter of fact before we go to the old testament. Let's go to matthew 28 This is another example. Now. This is a goofy example This is matthew 28 for that's been brought up. Let's start in verse three He says and at his appearing Was like lightning and his clothing was as white as snow The guard shook for fear of him and became like dead men again That same term became and there's word host and then dead so became like dead men Well, this is at the appearing of an angel. So now are we saying not only can be slain in the spirit But you can also be slain in the angel. This is not the holy spirit This is an angel that's appeared before them and again The same thing is happening here that we see in other cases where they are just showing some reverence They are bowing over they are in reverence and they become like dead men not able to move Um, but notice what's happening Their understanding is there they can understand they can respond back and so forth I don't know why a person would even refer to this one because clearly this is not god But if you want to make something fit You'll do anything and everything that you can to make a particular passage for us now. Let's go to the old testament Let's go to two pastors in daniel daniel 8 verse 17 So he came near to where I was standing and where I'm sorry when he came I was frightened and fell in my face, but he said son of man understand that the vision pertains to the time Of the end. So now here's daniel falling Now we want daniel is bowing over on his own. He's praying But who shows up was a god? No, holy spirit. No Jesus. No, it's an angel And so daniel is speaking to Um, an angel he has this vision and an angel is before him. So again, it's daniel also being slain in the angel And then if we go to daniel 10 8 So I was left alone and I saw a great vision yet. No strength was left in me Okay, that doesn't mean that you're slain in the spirit No strength was left in me for my natural color turned to a deathly parlor And I retained no string But I heard the sound of his word and as soon as I heard the sound of his word I fell into a deep sleep on my face with my face of the ground Then behold a hand touched me and set me trembling on my hands and knees And he said to me, oh daniel man of high esteem. Now How was daniel on the ground? That's important daniel is on his what as the bible says on his hands and knees That's forward. He is voluntarily Not prospering himself, but on his bowing in honor And so again, is this slain the spirit? No, he's not slain the spirit He is matter of fact, he's not in the spirit the spirit didn't come upon him He is in a vision though. He is seeing and he's going to say that that he's in a he's in the spirit That's fine. He's not slain in the spirit now. Is anyone denying the fact that you could actually Uh, especially in the bible someone have a vision be in the spirit and so forth No, we're saying the phenomenon that we're seeing people being knocked over someone touched them on the head Someone waving their hand someone swiping their feet with all these different things to cause people to fall remember One of the attributes one of the criteria one of the characteristics one of the traits of the holy spirit Or we say the fruit of the spirit is self-control Going to ezekiel three Look at this one So I got up and went out into the plane and behold the glory of the lord was standing there like the glory Which I saw by the river of shebar and I fell on my face So again falling forward and this is him doing so on his own The spirit then entered me and made me stand up on my feet. Wait a minute. Hold on. This is different now So the person before the spirit hits them they fall over Ezekiel falls over on his face going forward because this is voluntarily him doing so And then the spirit entered him and then was got up So this person wasn't slain in the spirit. This person was stood up in the spirit This person was brought up in the spirit. They fell over on their own And I should say fell over they fell forward got to the ground on their own and the spirit entered them and they stood up So again, the opposite of what we see happening again Because I believe as I just said when the holy spirit is in a person That person has self-control now the interesting thing is when you turn to the The best and brightest of these people that I that ascribe to this The the sam storms of the world the the dr. Michael brown the cricket they're not giving scriptures as a matter of fact Listen to Dr. Michael brown in his defense of being slain in the spirit. There is no he notice what he didn't give He does not give a biblical defense of being slain the spirit during the great awakening Jonathan edwards the great philosopher and theologian in the early 1700s mid 1700s in america He made the comment we ought not to limit god where he hath not limited himself In other words, there are things that are unbiblical. They are contrary to the word. They are sinful They are to be rejected. There are other things that are extra biblical They are simply not spoken of in the world Now this is why this is foolish one because rather than point to a passage To make the point you point to a person who gives a statement that you couldn't agree with that you like And we shouldn't reject the things that are just because they're not merely a test to in the scriptures Well, the scriptures didn't say that I shouldn't punch my dog in the face. Should I know I should not But the bible doesn't say I should not This is how this is silly If we're going to live by the scriptures, let's live by the scriptures Let's live by the words that literally proceed from the spirit himself Rather than making up things now Notice what he also says in terms of why we can kind of listen to this because of the tradition of the church now The word they are not recorded in scripture and scripture does not give us specific guidelines For example, if someone is shaking can we evaluate is that the spirit or not based on how they shake If someone is crying can we evaluate is that the spirit or not based on the tears? Is the heart beating these are some of the things edwards talked about that the bible doesn't give us these guidelines when the heart beats like this It's the spirit like this. It's not the spirit No, the things that are not explicitly recorded in scripture and that do not violate guidelines of scripture Must be judged by the overall fruit. It's the same with quote being slain in the spirit You say well, hang on. There's always a precedent in church history Well, there's been a precedent for many many years now that this has happened when people are prayed for Yeah, here's what he's saying because there's a precedent now lately in in church history recent church history of people Being slain in the spirit falling on so forth and we can go with that. No, we can't It's a modern. It's a new phenomenon. That is literally I wouldn't say literally less than 100 years old But it's somewhere about a hundred years old Of this just occurring more and more and more you've got more folks being slain in the spirit than we did then In the bible and the reason why I say more than then because we have zero Of it happening in the bible, but it's now happening now and because it's happening now We can take that as proof positive that that's the spirit. Well, wait a second. No, we cannot again If you cannot give us a scripture then as what did I say? It is literally the definition of unbiblical if the doctrine or belief of anything that's not found in the bible Then by definition is unbiblical being slain the spirit is On biblical and then you get because it's unbiblical you've got people that are searching For examples for rationale to say why it is biblical because it's what they practice Now what about those who reject the manifestation because It is extra biblical or not found in scripture as they would say Here I have to point out something Just because you can't find an entire doctrine encapsulated in a specific chapter and verse of the bible Does it mean that it isn't biblical? It absolutely does mean it's it's not biblical It's a silly statement and the reason why you you keep this you the reason why you want to promote this because It works in your favor. You have you do not want to be seen as being wrong And you built your ministry off of this off of these spiritual phenomenons These spiritual phenomenons that are not found in the bible. What he just said is unbiblical He tends to be Unbiblical and I'm not trying to be mean but I'm just trying to be as biblical as possible If I cannot find in the scriptures, well, then why would I go with it if I can't find examples of it? Which is why he and dr. Brown and many others said well, yeah, it's not in the scriptures But so what well that that's that's pretty important to note that it's not in the scriptures But we should do it anyway do it anyway do as I say That is the preacher not as the bible says And that's a dangerous precedent that we're sending and we're seeing that more and more to where we're going outside of the bible Looking for extra biblical reasons to do something that is not biblical and so guys Since there's no scripture if these are the best scripts They can come up with the show that slamming the spirit is biblical Which it's not and even if the the better scholars the better teachers the more known or noted ones Will even agree that yes, there's none Well, then maybe you should also do the same thing rejected because again If you need to have this to validate your your salvation Then maybe you don't have it if the word of god isn't enough for you If the word of god doesn't move you if it's not what you live by then maybe you're just not a christian Or it could be hopefully it's just that you're not a very good Well, you're not a very mature christian But learn to be like babies who desire the pure milk desire the word of god in the same way Don't live off milk though grow and learn to live off meat the weight of your things Stop We should get past of the basic things and then as we grow in the grace and the knowledge Remember these scriptures were given to us by the holy spirit And if they're not enough for you, then maybe you're saying that god you're not enough Remember what satan is always wanting to do take the word twist the word Do the same thing with eve in the garden try to do the same thing with jesus But again, this is jesus and he's going to do the same thing with us Use the scriptures go by the scriptures and don't let anything else supplant the importance of the scriptures not even experience or emotions. Amen