 Next question is from jrgfit with schools getting ready to go back how do each of you feel about sending your kids back to school will you or won't you also how do you handle this situation if you and your spouse have very different feelings and opinions about it. Wow imagine being married imagine being married to somebody who like totally has a different view I didn't even think about that like I have different views in my some friends which that's it presents its own challenges. You know like we were all sitting around like we have very different this was this weekend we're all together and and one of the three friends is like super hardcore left and you know it presents itself with challenges with conversations now we all tease each other and you guys are adults about it right and have fun about it but I mean if I lived in the same house as him all the time and like every issue was like that that would be really challenging to do that I can't do you guys have any friends that are have have spouses that are completely like polar opposite views on things like that yeah sometimes I think it's that's going to happen with something at some point you're not going to have the same view as your spouse that's why you have to. Learn how to compromise that's like the big thing about being married actually is learning how to do that because you're going to feel very strongly about something she's going to feel very strongly. As far as the school thing is concerned like these are the latest statistics or the latest numbers OK here we are in California right California has got the second highest amount of confirmed coronavirus cases right now in the country that to Florida and they're growing no Florida is not number one but they're growing very rapidly New York was number one but California is probably going to catch up here pretty soon. We still as of the recording this podcast not one child has died from covid the statistically speaking the the death rate from covid for kids is so small it's hard to calculate you're speaking as is California just I'm talking about the whole the whole world. It's so we haven't had a single kid die no in California we have that's why I just yeah sorry I thought you meant the statistics OK yeah no kids have died from it but it's such a small percentage. The flu for kids is much riskier than covid is not saying that there aren't kids that are going to suffer from it you know if somebody is listening and they know somebody that really really sucks but the risk is is super low so but now that now what they say is it's not about the kids it's about the kids getting it and then bringing it home to grandma in which case I say yeah you should definitely be careful around people who are high risk. The other part that I think we need to look at is we're not considering all the other health effects of some of these policies OK fine you're worried about coronavirus so no kids go to school. These are developmental years they're not being around friends they're not leaving the house formative years they're locked in the like that's not healthy for a kid. And considering the low death rate of coronavirus and I think you're you're it's more risky to force your kids to stay at home than it is to send them to school that's my personal opinion I'm not an infectious disease expert but that's my personal opinion. Here in California and it just came out right so California is no no go this year at all. No well not this year the fall or whatever fall. Yeah that's this year. Yeah basically the first few months they don't know what we got so far which who knows. I'm sure they'll they'll lock it down the rest of the you know after that but yeah I'm kind of with you so I'm just like I'm really sad for the kids that they have to now take on all these fears and everybody else is like hysteria you know during their most formative years of where they're supposed to be you know just focusing on what they need to focus on which is getting educated you know having community hanging out with their friends. And so it's frustrating for me being like I wasn't considering staying at home and like doing you know at home education but now it definitely is something that makes sense. You mean like pulling them out of school? Pulling them out of school. Like what what is the point of putting them in a situation where everybody is so hysterical about the way that they're handling objects they're rubbing everything down with sanitizer and you know we didn't get any of this from the flu. Like this is just some if you are sick you stayed home and then and that was it and and so you know I just I don't understand this this isn't to me this doesn't resonate. With the way that I think about our bodies immune system and being able to then you know overcome like these potential diseases that come our way so it has honestly like I. I can't understand it obviously this is you know their reaction to trying to slow you know something that's spreading but for me. To me I think it makes more sense to keep them home like keeping in a safe environment bring people in that can educate them to help. So we're looking at those options right now. Well not to mention that Sal talks about the unintended consequences what about the you know play is a big part of school too. How many and you guys know you guys are fitness people with parents so you guys are probably trying to insert you know activities and things to keep your kids active but if how many people in America are doing that right now. How many people are making sure that if your kid was playing at recess for 45 minutes to an hour every single day plus whatever breaks they have and what it looks like for them and sports that they might have been playing. Right now they're not doing any of that anymore. Are you making sure as a parent to do that and what role does that play in their health. It's more than that. It's more than that. It's not just the activity. It's the activity with other kids. Right. That yeah that's a huge that is a huge part of child development. That's a good point because that was something that remember we were talking I don't know if we shared this on air and not but you know we were having this discussion you know about raising our kids in this time with tech right. And I was you know Sal and Justin were talking about how challenging like it is to you know feel like you're constantly telling your kid no you can't have that you don't want to be a tyrant about it. And I was like come on dude are you really is it really that big of a deal like I remember playing video games with my friends all day long some days. And you know they're on vacation with us. Why don't you let that and he goes listen if I and this was Sal's response to me is that if my son was playing with two or three of his friends I wouldn't have a problem with it but they're on it's not he's by himself staring at a screen all day long. He's not truly interacting socially with his friends and they're all playing together. He's just staring at a TV screen with some headphones on and it's not a real interaction that fulfills you know that sort of need that they have to connect with another human being. You know like these virtual things are not fulfilling that need we all have as human beings and so we have to just kind of like fend for ourselves that's where I feel like we're at right now because you know the government is not going to provide that for us that's fine. No the medical community that the child health experts are saying open the schools up. They're saying the risk of death with kids or serious complications from coronavirus for children is super super low. The dangers of them not going to school are higher because again these are crucial developmental years look above all else humans are extremely social. This is what makes one of the things that makes humans unique is we're extremely social animals we have very complex societies. It is it's actually deemed torture to isolate somebody if you capture them in war it's against the Geneva Convention. Here's what we're doing with kids don't go to school stay at home all day long. Holy shit okay yeah okay maybe we lower the risk of spreading a disease a little bit but what are the the other sides of that consequence. Well here let me let me let me throw the let me throw the other side to this right so this was a discussion this weekend and I told you my friends on the other side far left he's also a principal to high school. So he goes the fear is not the kids the teachers exactly he says the fear is that the schools first of all are not structured in a way to like manage this. He goes not manageable because the amount of kids that are coming in and out of these these classrooms the things they're touching and grabbing and sharing amongst each other. Is he goes just managing keeping all that stuff clean and not them spreading it to the teachers. And then also even having to manage the teachers he goes you know I already see what I'm going to have to do and he goes it's gonna I'm gonna have to be the asshole. Who comes in the teacher break room and the four teachers are sitting around having coffee together and I'm gonna have to go what the fuck are you guys doing. Yeah they're never going to be able to manage it. And so he's like any of these diseases he's like it's not about the kids dying from this it's that them being carriers to the then teachers who then the teachers go off and carry it to other people. He goes that is the greatest challenge that I'm going to have to deal with my whole job is going to change from being an educator to being this guy who is constantly monitoring health safety. Well it's right for disruption. Yeah it is and look that's what I think I heard that but look in places where schools have been reopened. There is no evidence that it spreads the virus more. So that's not true. He told me that they're they're tracing back. Oh God I wish what country it was and they're saying that the main reason why they're their outbreak they're tracing it back was because they opened up schools again. I wish I remember what country it was so I could so I could. Well I know I know I think it was Sweden. It's not Sweden. Well Sweden it did wouldn't wasn't fully open and you compare it to other countries and it's kind of the same. Maybe Doug and Gula I don't know how you're looking for country opened up blames. Okay but here's my argument. Okay my argument is not that it's not going to spread more coronavirus. My argument is what are the unintended consequences and are those going to be worse. Well you know me I know you know I agree with you but I'm playing I'm what I'm doing right now is there's there's about 45% people right now that are listening to this conversation that are going. And I'm going to play that for you. This is what this is because this is my my best friend who is a vice or a principal of a school. He's on that side of it where he's like it's going to be it's going to be a nightmare if we open schools up you're going to see this. Live under a rock. You know the rest of your life or deal with the fact that you're there's people that have gotten sick and gotten better. No. Did we forget about that. Yeah. We really forgot about that. Yeah. Now we need everybody's protection for every step of every fucking thing that we do from here on out. Fuck you. Yeah. Oh god. I'm done. Justin just gave me a direction. I love it when you get angry. No I agree. I think I think this these measures are being managed or should I say led by one class of expert which is the infectious disease expert and that's they should definitely be in that conversation. But they are not including psychologists in that they're not including economists in that they're not including you know they're not including everybody. Let's look at the whole picture. No I love that. That's a great that's a great great point right there because that's what ends up happening is that this turns into just a what's a healthier thing. And there's no debate there. Would it be more infections because here's the thing I will agree to this. It would that for health reasons the safest thing we could all do is go lock ourselves in our rooms for the next fucking two years. Just from the infections. Yeah. Right. And no one can argue that. Now that's a that is a fact of these but let's think about how and I like to your health. I like to take that extreme to get people that that's how you should teach fitness right with the stream analogies. I tell people like that came in they say hey Adam I want to lose 30 pounds as fast as I can. I say OK if you want to lose 30 pounds fast you can't stop eating come in here every day and see me. We're going to run on the treadmill for an hour. Now you laugh and you think that's ridiculous but that's the extreme to get them to understand this is not the way. This is not the best way for us to do it. There's other factors we have to think about. The same thing goes for this argument is yeah no shit wearing mask all the time shutting schools down all of us isolating would be the safest thing for this country. No shit but we're not thinking about all the other things. We're not talking about the suicide rates going through the roof depression going through the roof domestic violence going through the roof. What's going on with our kids that are not going to be socialized for an entire year. There are other factors that you have to take into consideration that we're just not. They're not and look OK I'll give you another example. OK we're in the fitness space so I'll go with this one. So every year at least 2.8 to 3 million people die every year from obesity. OK that's a fact every single year. Now from an obesity standpoint would we save lives if we all of a sudden restricted everybody's food everybody was on rations and we eliminated all unhealthy foods and everybody was required by law to exercise. If you don't exercise you get fined or thrown to jail. Will we reduce the deaths of obesity. Yes we will dramatically is that going to be a good thing for our health. No it won't. Health is a sphere. It's not just how many infections we get. It's also the psychology your psychological psychological state has to do with your health. Your family has to do with your health the relationships you have how you learn to socialize with people how you communicate with people you develop how you develop your how you handle money is a part of your health. And they're not considering any that all they're looking at is a scary shit which is the infections and they're not considering anything else. My point is this you take you take tell kids they can't go to school. Will you lower infection rate probably will you cause other consequences that may be worse than that also probably I think so and nobody's considering that so that's just you know and that's from a personal trainer fitness podcast host standpoint so take it take it for what it's worth.