 I try to drive the primarily all the time to make these horses hunt that cow and for different problems like say your horse is laying up on there a lot of times you'll step to the cow and then break really flat back off in here and have them thinking about getting away from a cow because basically you got two problems on your horse he's either getting too flat or too up into the cow if he's working properly they're the two things that you're going to get into so uh like right here I pulled him off that cow if I'm just trying to drive and get him away from it so he he's not flipping back in all the time have him think about going flatter on the on the program and then draw and brag if you just chain in a three-year-old you just be driving like this but you'll be staying on the line nice and square back up before you step to the cow all the time so he's thinking draw and not running at the cow step up try to make that horse affect that cow right there he made the cow move here I'm just taking my cow side leg and pressing and this is the result we're getting he's he's really wanting to turn around and his nervous energy's going backwards instead of flipping across that cow when he's not supposed to now all this type of control is all uh gotta be hooked to the cow everybody has a a different way riding with their feet you know uh I can teach this young man over here what I'm doing he's going to make it a little bit different I like to make stuff really simple on the horse um left turn is with your right foot right here just like that right turn is just with your left foot I want to make him go nose first right now you'll say okay but you're holding your your inside leg on here not letting him turn around what's making him not turn over here that's making him not turn over here I want that horse hook to that cow and one