 We did, we weren't even dancing. We normally dance. I know, I know, we were talking and chatting and right up to the very point where we were supposed to be doing stuff and like 10 seconds to go and I finally turned the music on. That's right, yeah, I was showing off pictures of our granddaughter, Sophia, because for this week, my wife and I were the full-time caregivers while my daughter went back to work. So you have to just take my word for it that she's pretty cute. She's adorable. Oh my goodness, she's adorable. We were sharing pictures. Morning, Hilary, you were the first one here. We should have a first, we should do something special for the first one. Well, Hilary will have won it a number of times. Judy Stutz comes in first a lot too. So morning, Christine, she says from Frigid, Montana, it's a very early Saturday morning out in Montana. It's very frigid and snowy here. You could tell it's snowy behind Gregg, yeah. That's actual snow. I would show you actual snow, but there's no window here. There's a window there, but... Lisa, good morning, Lisa. I'm sure it's snowy over your way. Los Angeles, windy. That's Susan Anderson, Suzy Cardis here, Minnesota. Gregg and I are going to be flying over Minnesota in February, March, the first of March, February. Yeah, first of March. Sunny, but cool here, but we'll be dark soon, yeah. Like it's late afternoon over there. Not late afternoon, but afternoon. Morning from North Alabama. Judy, there you are, Judy. Hilary beat you this morning. I'm not going, are you kidding me? I'm not going to the Christmas parade. Too many people, too many, too cold. Yeah, in Erelia here, we're having a Christmas parade tonight. And it's the first time they've switched it from an afternoon to an evening for us. So that's interesting. Is there going to be a lighting thing going on? Yeah, there is. In downtown, they always have a Christmas light, so they used to be two separate events. There was a lighting on Friday night, and then the Christmas parade was usually a Sunday afternoon, but now they're doing both events on a Saturday night. So I guess they split the difference. It's chilly in South Alabama. It's 30 degrees and they're about to rain in Buenos Aires from Cristina Corvalani. Hey, Chris Ferriolo. Yeah, he's in Virginia doing some visiting. Mary Sleppy from Western Pennsylvania. Let's see, oh, it gets dark before. Percent of the clock. Protect her, oh, five p.m. Yeah. We can see which one was that. Yeah, I know. It's percent o'clock. It's like- Pull up, Greg. Five p.m. We figured it out, Hilary. Yeah, I've got my sweater on with a little bit of wiki tree orange, just. I have the wood stove going and it's so hot in here, I'm sweating. It's like, it's, okay, 68 degrees in here and I'm just sweating. Okay. Morning. We had a really good question of the week this week and we're gonna do a little bit of learning stuff going on in here this morning because I've heard the words Ashkenazi, Sephardic. I've heard these names referring to the Jewish people but I've never really understood it. I understood that they were different sects and that the Ashkenazi and I knew that they were Orthodox and so a lot of people, A, they're talking about DNA. A lot of DNA talk this morning. So I'm gonna try and help you out and actually somebody answered one of the questions with a great DNA answer. So I'm gonna just read that answer instead of vomiting up my information for you. So there's lots of information we wanna learn about. So really quickly, we're gonna go over to Wikipedia because that's where you find all the correct answers. Isn't that right, Greg? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So Ashkenazi Jews are a part of Jewish dyspora population who coalesced in the Holy Roman Empire around the first millennium. Their traditional dyspora language is Yiddish, a language with linguistic elements. It's usually spoken in the maternal side of the family which is interesting but all the boys know it. Let's see, that developed in the Middle Ages after they moved from Germany and France and the Northern European Union. So when you hear somebody say that they're Ashkenazi Jewish, it means that they're the Jewish group that kind of went up into Europe and all that area. So Sephardic Jews, I thought that these were like sex and within the congregation but they really refer to where some of these groups or tribes of people went. So the Sephardic Jews are Hispanic in origins. They ended up when they left, they went over and they settled in that area. There's a group of Jewish people that are Yemeni and there's a group called the Mizrahi. Sorry if I'm pronouncing that wrong. Those are the ones who ended up over in East Asia or Asian area. So that's their Oriental Jewish or Mizrahi, what, huh? No, that's really, I didn't realize. Yeah, I didn't either. So I thought that was interesting because I was reading through and I was like, well, what are these words actually? And so going down through here, there's lots of interesting stories, lots of interesting information, lots of DNA. And I won't bore you with all the DNA but the very first non-answer and I don't usually show the comments, but 2% DNA, 2.7% and so a lot of people are talking about how much percentage they have based on their DNA. And all of these comments talk about migration. You talk about, and it makes sense that these names that we know for these groups, the Ashkenazi Sephardic, we know them because it talked about the tribes that were moving around the world. So I never knew that. So we just learned, I just learned something. You probably all knew it. Let's see, Julie Farrell says, I have less than 1% and so far I have no clue which side of the family. I assume my father, it's a puzzle. I'm not sure where to start so like adding a family onto my tree and so you may not figure it out. You may not figure it out. 1%, I have a lot of experience with doing DNA tests with people where they're looking at their origins estimates. And first off, it's an origins estimate. And it's based on the group of people in that DNA testing pool. So if there are a lot of people who tested at a particular company who happened to be Jewish, then you will have more probabilities of having Jewish matches, therefore a higher percentage of Jewish DNA showing up in your matches. And so that's how they figure out your origins. If you are Jewish, the best company to go to to get a DNA test would be MyHeritage as they are based in Israel and have a very large database. So if you want to really dig deep into your DNA in that pool of testers, test over, move your test, you can actually take your test from FTDNA and put it over at MyHeritage. And it's either free or very inexpensive to do that. That was Julie Farrell's question, which sent me off. Let's see Jewish from Eastern Europe. I knew this, but my ancestry DNA confirmed it. She's a hundred percent. And I do know about my Jewish roots, so that's great. Don't forget to upvote some of these tests. So Norman Pinkus, a 100% Ashkenazi, paternal grandfather born in Kolo, Poland. And then from Suwaki, all from Prussia. That's interesting, because I've already upvoted all of these and all of a sudden they're not upvoted. So I'm gonna upvote them again. Not that I know, but DNA shows 4% Ashkenazi. I was gonna say that sometimes working with people with origins, I figured out that 3% or so would be about the 1780s, 1790, if you wanna put it into a timeframe. And that's a very liberal guess. It's just based on my experience working with people who were working on specific origins. And that specific origin content was African-Canadian. Wow, and do you know how far back Jewish records go? Oh my gosh, Jewish records go back to the temple of Solomon and tablets and probably 6,000 years. And not only there, but in... But do they exist in countries where they were persecuted, I'm wondering? Yeah, oh, that kind of stuff, yeah. During the pogroms, which was the effort to move people out of Russia in the 18th and 19th century, I think that a lot of stuff was just burned because they literally cleared villages. I mean, it was called the clearing. So yeah, I don't know how many might have hidden their records because I know that was a part of, literature that I've read, people were talking about, they would take the holy relics and they would bury them. Or they would hide in the Catholic church, in the basement of the Catholic church and maybe the Catholic church has gotten their records. I mean, religion in general during the Holocaust was not supported. So I mean, who knows what records could or couldn't. If you go back to some of those villages where people did survive, where there were a mix of people, it wasn't just totally an annihilation of the entire village because they were all Jewish, you can find people whose grandmothers or grandfathers would tell the lore of what happened. And the people, I've seen documentaries where people have gone back to their family's village and the people of the village actually welcomed them, kind of took them to their table, told them the story that was handed down to them and actually walked out to where the mass grave was. Wow. So yeah, yeah, that kind of story, it's just, it's very heartbreaking to know that that was a part of our human history. Let's see, Linda Epstein says, yes, on all sides, both of my father's parents and both of my mother's parents and their respective parents and so on and so forth, back as far as I can go. So crew, they're Ashkenazi. Let's see, and then there's a 1% Jewish from Breesburg, Bev Spreeman. That's funny, boom on. According to my DNA, 23andMe, and it used to show up on ancestry, accessory, but it has disappeared since the last update, a small percentage of Ashkenazi. My wife's grandmother, Emma Harris, was a daughter of an Anglicized Jewish parents. She married out of the faith and was ostracized. We were talking earlier about the different sects of Jewish religion. And I live in an area of Ottawa where we have, I'm trying to think of the name of it. We have Orthodox Jews. We also have a sect of Jewish people who are the ones who wear all black. It's gorgeous. It's gorgeous on Saturday because they're all walking to the synagogue that's at the end of my street. And it's gorgeous, the beautiful silk coats and the sideburns that hang down when they're wearing the special underclothes and stuff. Huge, huge, crazy, Hasidic. Hasidic, yes. Yeah, there's a big Hasidic community around my neighborhood. So yeah, that's pretty cool because everybody wants to live close to be able to walk to Sabbath. Grandfather, my mother's father was Jewish and his family came to the US in the 1890s. And this is a part of the pogroms that were going on. As the story goes, his father was a tax collector for one of the Czar's in Russia in the Ukraine and was told by the Czar to take his family and get out because it wasn't saved. And she actually mentions the pogroms. I believe it's actually P-O-G-R-O-M-S. I think so, yeah. Let's see, favorite stories of Bible is the story of Moses. And then she found out that she was 2% Jewish, Barb Minor. In addition to my own trees, I've created trees for friends. It's very hard to work Jewish genealogy. I'm gonna talk about that in just a second. We won't spend too much more time on it, but- No, that's okay, you go ahead. No, no, no, I wanna make sure I leave at least an hour for you, Greg. Yes. Not in my birth family, but my adopted family descended of Isaac Harvey of Charleston, South Carolina, 5%, narrative claims Sephardic that came from Spain. There you go. Let me scroll on down to where I find that really great DNA answer. Well, there you go. That's why I didn't look like it had been answered. I like this. Marianne Saruti, who often gives us really interesting stories like the love story of her family who eloped by taking a boat from the Bahamas to the US. This right here is a Hebrew for in her, meaning her maternal line. There's more to the story. I looked up the B'nai Anuism, and that means that they were the product of rape, which is a sad thing. But, I mean, I really got into looking up all of this stuff this week, so that was cool. 99% Ashkenazi, 97% for my father. And then she's got, James has Iberian written down, but that would be Sephardic if they were Iberian. So that means that there was a mix of Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews who went that direction to Iberia. Ashkenazi, and then the remainder was Sephardic. Yeah, yeah. See, I'm gonna skip on down here since I've been yaw-yacking. Olaf Winston, he answered Gail Wagner's question so good. She says, when I first had my DNA test five and a half years ago, it said I was 6% Ashkenazi Jewish. I located the line on my father's side. It traces back through New York City, to Germany, to East Europe, and finally back to Spain, Sephardic, which I found interesting. Now my nationality breakdown doesn't list Jewish anymore, probably because it's such a small percentage question mark. It now breaks down into Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and Eastern Europe. And I can tell you right now that I know that this test is from Ancestry. Because Ancestry made everybody Scottish about three years ago. And so, yeah, I went from like 2% Scottish to 70% Scottish, which I know is not in my information. It's just that there are all of these people in my family lines who have Scottish heritage who tested with Ancestry. Nearly every single part of my maternal line has tested at Ancestry and hasn't tested anywhere else. So that's a great influence there, but my lines are most mainly Irish. Right. Well, I lost almost all my Irish ethnicity with the latest, you mean origins? I don't believe in that word ethnicity. It's not a correct, it's a misogynistic. Right, origins, whatever, yeah. So, sorry, I didn't mean to get off on my soapy top. Go ahead, go ahead. So, Ola of Weinstrand had the best answer. Why do different companies give different values? Well, there is no officially pure set of Jewish DNA or DNA of any other origins group to compare with yours with only sets of people with deep roots within the group and no or few known ancestors outside it. Different companies have different reference groups and to the extent that the composite genomes of these different groups differ from one another, those origins percentages you will receive vary. Small values may sometimes show up without any historical connection at all due to the randomness and general admixture or even statistical flukes in the algorithms. Now he's talking about the autosomal DNA testing companies. So that's family tree DNAs, family finder, ancestries, 23andMe, MyHeritage, LivingDNA, those types of companies. If you were to get a wide DNA specific test or a mitochondrial DNA specific test, especially the full sequence or the deeper test, your origins estimates for your maternal line that your mother's, mother's, mother's, mother's or your paternal line, your father's, father's, father's, father's will give you specific information relating to that specific line. So you could actually find out specifically. So I know that my maternal line is Scandinavian, Norwegian in its roots because my haplogroup was formed in that area as my group of people moved through the world. And that's why we call these origins estimates instead of ethnicity. It doesn't have anything to do with the melanin on our skin. It has to do with where our group of people were when that DNA mutated. And that DNA mutated for me in 3000 years ago in Norway. For men, you can go back the same way specifically. I know that my father's DNA actually came up out of Africa, around and through. And his DNA actually came up the Roan River Valley on the edge of France and Germany, or Switzerland and Austria, went right up the spine of the backside of the Alps up to Rotterdam in about 637. And more DNA changes happened there. And then we find his DNA over somewhere in England. Right now the DNA is saying around Manchester. And we're looking around that area, but it's basically England. It's all of the English country. So my origins for my father's side are English. My origins for my mother's line is Norwegian or Scandinavian. So there you go. That's a great answer. Yeah, that's cool. So I'm gonna end the question on that one. Go over, enjoy reading some of this stuff. Do some work, some research for yourself and learn some stuff like I did this morning about the Sephardic Ashkenazi and all of that. And enjoy your day. I did wanna say that there is a sticker that you can put on your profiles for people who have Jewish roots. The other big thing about doing DNA or trying to work a family line for people with Jewish heritage is that those communities were so insular. They were so islandized. They were so segregated and up to themselves that there's lots of intermarrying of cousins and things. And so when you do Jewish genealogy and you're looking at the centimorgans listed, you can usually go back to about 12 centimorgans as a minimum for people. But for Jewish families, you wanna go back to about 20% as a minimum because there was so much intermarrying. There's so much endogamy. I know genealogists who won't work Jewish heritage because it is an incredibly hard, hard thing to work such an endogamous group. So you can grab a beautiful sticker and stick it on your family. And we will have all of the server space used up by the wonderful Jewish sticker. Let's see, I had one other thing. Oh yeah, and there was another good information that was shown for me. And this was a profile that Bill Teschek had pointed to that has, this guy actually has a Wikipedia page. And I started reading it and it was a paragraph all munched together. And so I just went in and tried to figure out how to break it up so that it was a little bit easier to read, there's probably way more paragraphs breaks that I could add. Like I could have put a break right here at the line. Yeah, to just clean up that formatting and make it a little bit easier to read. But you know how to do profile improvement on Wikipedia, so that was it. That is all. Great. Over to you, Greg. Over to me? Okay, well, the question of the week, this week was, which Disney legend are you most closely connected to? Let me zoom in a little bit on that. And of course, this was chosen because just recently at the end of October, we lost Angela Lansbury and very well-beloved actress. And she had connections, of course, to Disney. So she is the profile of the week. And you're really close to Angela Lansbury. She is my closest connection. You are, you're 15 degrees. Yes, and you see, so I have the, so from Hacktoberfest, you know how we, one of the things that we worked on Hacktoberfest was the browser extension. And so I have the browser extension enabled and you can see then, looking at the profile, it says exactly 15 degrees. So when you have the browser extension, when you go to anyone's profile, it'll tell you right at the top there how far away you are. So yes, she is my closest of all of these. And in fact, I knew you were gonna comment on that, Megs. So here is the distance. So you weren't gonna let me say it, you had to say it. Well, no, I knew you said it first, you said it first, but I knew you were gonna say it first, so I was prepared for that. So here is the connection between Angela and myself. Yeah, you know, we're in first name basis because you know, we're so close. And nobody can verify that now. Hey, Angela, are you in first name basis? Yeah, that's right. So you see how it changes color from green to yellow, briefly then back to green, then yellow to me. So that tells you there are, there's four times where we switch from being blood, the trail goes from blood relative to through a marriage. Now I prefer, I prefer the alternate view. So here is the, there's the alternate view. So that, so when you go across, so across there's Angela, her sister, her husband, his wife, and then all the way through there. And let me just, so a short, so I could, you could say, sister's husband's wife's father's, mother, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's an AJ Jacobs connection. What's that? The AJ Jacobs connection. Yeah. Or you can summarize it by just sort of skipping, you know. So Angela's, Look at this Greg. Angela's brother, we start the same. Number four is different. Oh, that's interesting. So you don't go through his second wife. That's interesting. So Angela's brother-in-law's second wife because her sister was his first wife, his second wife's great, great grandmothers, brother-in-law's sister is my great, great, great grandmother. Wow. Isn't that cool? That is pretty cool. So Lisa, what's your connection? What's your, is it your brother, is Angela's brother-in-law second wife something else or what, anyways, we digress a bit, I suppose. Back to Angela. Dame Angela Bridget Landsbury, born the 16th of October, 1925 in Pancras, Middlesex, England and passed away just recently, the 11th of October, 2022 at the age of 96, the grand old age of 96. So God bless her, you know, passed away in Los Angeles. Golden Globe winner, Tony Award winner, connected to Regents Park and Middlesex, famous, she was one of the famous actors of digital legend recipient, Dame Commander of the Order of the British Empire and notable. So look at all these categories. The people who did this profile really did it up well. So she was award-winning. Can I have an answer from Lisa there? Oh, there we go. She goes to Suzanne Cloutier and then her mother, Ellen Sandini. Whereas I went through, let me just go back to this. Oh, I went through the father Edmond Cloutier. Not interesting. Okay, very cool. Very cool. So the Disney connection for Angela, of course, is that she was the voice of Mrs. Potts in Beauty and the Beast. One of the early films in the Disney renaissance of when they got back into doing animated films, a much beloved role that she had done. But she was much well-known before that. Probably her biggest claim to fame is murder she wrote. And that TV series that ran for a long time. But way before that, she was also well-known in films, maybe not as well-known for people of my generation or later who only saw these films by the time they were classics. Determines classics. But the Manchurian candidate, I went back and watched that. Great film. And she had a key role in that. Also, she starred on stage in Mame, which is, I think B. Arthur started that role, was the first one who did that role and then she sort of took over from that. But she also did the picture of Dorian Gray. There's a nice little picture there. Like, look how beautiful she was as a young actress. I thought she aged quite well. She did, oh yeah, she maintained that, yeah, all through her years. And then she passed away. Angela Lansbury was the very first person to play Mame. Oh, Angela was the first. She opened it in 1966. Oh, okay. So why did I think that, okay, open with you? The original Broadway production of Mame, Mame starring Tony Award winner, Angela Lansbury. Ah, okay. There was something about, I think I had read that, but then there was something, this is her Wikipedia article. So look at that, look at this. 1946, wow. And look at there, as a young mum. Somewhere here, there's a picture of her with B. Arthur. Oh, so more recently, she was in a play driving Miss Daisy with the one that the movie is based on. And James Earl Jones was the driver. Wouldn't that be, have been wonderful to see the two of them acting together? I want James Earl Jones to be my Google voice. Yes, wow, it's neat. Somewhere here, I thought there was a picture, there it is. Lansbury with Mame original Broadway cast member B. Arthur. See, that caption made me think that B had started it. Wouldn't you? She was in it. She was in it, yeah. Well, I'll look and see if I can figure that out for you. Yeah, so that's what made me think it was the other way around, but anyways. But nice that they remained close friends. Anyways, Angela Lansbury, lovely lady and great actress. Now I've rearranged them, so I'm not gonna go through them in the alphabetical order or the order in which they were presented on the original post. I have arranged them in a, which I think is a more logical form for a story. She played the other, the person beside her, the famous song, Buzzing Buddies. Oh, yes. That was Angela Lansbury and B. Arthur in the show. Oh, so they didn't play the same character. They didn't, they both didn't play Auntie Mame. Right. I just brought it up, but I don't think anybody can hear it anyway. Check it out on Facebook or on YouTube. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, because I'm sharing my screen. No, I would have just played the music. Oh, you would have just played the music, okay. But then we wouldn't have got taken down, hopefully. Well, no, I wouldn't played more than a few seconds. Yeah, there we go, yeah. That's the rule is you can only play bits. Little wee snippets, yeah, that's right. Here we go, Judy Sots has it. Oh, there we go. In 1966, Arthur auditioned for the title role, which your husband, Gene Sacks, was set to direct, but Angela Lansbury won the role, offered second supporting role of Vera Charles. Thank you so much, Judy. Thank you, Judy. That clears it up. So they're both in it and they both originally started it, but they weren't playing the same role. So that was my mistake. I obviously didn't do enough research. Thank you, Judy, for correcting me there. Excellent. So the next big name in the Disney Legends this week was Julie Andrews. And she's, of course, famous in her Disney connection, of course, is Mary Poppins. And look at all the categories again. Disney Legends, famous actor, author, director, dancer, Commanding Academy Award winner, Globe and Gold winner, Grammy Award winner, Emmy Award winner, Hollywood Walk of Fame. Oh, this day in history, that's interesting. I didn't even realize that was a category. Who knew? Sorry, did you skip over Tim Allen? Nope, no, what I'm doing, I've reordered them. We'll get to Tim eventually. You're like, who the heck is Tim Dick? Yeah, I know. No, see, I've ordered them in a slightly different way, but we'll get to the wall, I am honest, unless of course I run out of time. So renowned, Julie's obviously a renowned stage actress, famous for the sound of music and Mary Poppins. Well, those are her two biggest, but she has done so, so much. And the biography here is rather short, she's still living, so it hasn't been fleshed out as much as it will get to be when she, sadly does pass on it at some point, hopefully in the far future. But her Wikipedia page, of course, is much fuller and has some neat photos. Quite well fleshed out if you want to go through some of the stuff that she's done, but my fair lady, taking over, playing the role that Audrey Hepburn had. And of course, there's an iconic picture of her as Mary Poppins. Who she co-starred along with the next person. Oh, I have arranged Dick Van Dyke, of course. So you can see, this is another feature of that extension. If you've installed the wiki tree extension, you'll see it not only shows you the number of degrees, but if you are related, it tells you how you're related to them and your common ancestors. So Dick Van Dyke is actually my closest relative, well actually I shouldn't say relative in quotes because he is actually a relative, but it's so far away. 21st cousin, four times removed. Pretty sure we probably don't share any autosomal DNA that you can measure. We have a shared sixth great-grandparent, the Ferris family. Sorry, I said it again. We share a sixth great-grandfather, Dick Van Dyke and I. Do you? Mm-hmm. Wow, so you're really close. So what cousin? I have no idea. That would make an eighth cousin. I'm loading the crown extension now. Okay, but anyways, I think this is really cool, this, that aspect of the extension. And if I clicked on more, because we actually share more than just two common ancestors because you go so far back and look, if those are French names, you know there's gonna be a lot of cross marriages and a lot of multiple ancestors. So look at all those common ancestors we have in common. Wow. Yeah. So anyways, Dick is the son of Lorne Van Dyke and Hazel Voris-McCord, actor, comedian, writer, singer, dancer, producer, Disney legend as well, career spanning seven decades, amazing, amazing person. And again, the wiki tree profile is fairly succinct, just giving some of the sort of key points, things that came out of the sources that we've got collected. But the wiki tree article, wikipedia article, of course, is a lot more fulsome. But I mean, to be fair, all of these profiles do give the link to the wiki wikipedia article in their sources. So it's not like that information is hidden. So there we go, you can see, of course the Dick Van Dyke show, but lots of the Mary Poppins is the Disney connection. Oh, thank you. I'm so almost out that I would show you. Thanks. Actually, Chich Bang Bang, that wasn't a Disney show, was it? I don't know, but I remember going to see that as a kid. I loved it. I still love it. If it comes on, I hear the music. I'm like, yay! Yeah, that's a great one, yeah. It's based, the screenplay was co-written by Grold Dahl, did you know that? From Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. It makes sense. Yeah, it does. It's that kind of wacky stuff. But anyways, he's done lots of other stuff that are non-Disney, appeared in a Colombo. Of course, he was probably the evil guy who was probably the murderer in Colombo. It's always the big names that are the murderer. He had a series. Now, I've never watched that. Have you watched, did you ever watch Diagnosis Murder? No, I didn't, I didn't. And I was gonna ask you, was Andy Griffith ever a murderer? I don't think he was. Oh, he's too nice. Yeah, really. We thought Big Big Van Dyke was nice. But yeah, exactly. So maybe he was, maybe he was the victim. I don't know, I don't remember that episode of Colombo. But apparently he had a series, Diagnosis Murder. And one of the things that the Wikipedia article goes on and talks about is that he often, he often got his children or grandchildren as guests in that series. So that's kind of fun. Next, we'll move on to Fess Elisha or Elisha Parker Jr. I, Elisha. Elisha. Elisha. And just to let you guys know, I just downloaded the Chrome extension. So I may not, you know. You may be distracted. Carry on. Carry on, drink my coffee and look over here. So I'm going solo here, Elisha. Okay. Born in Fort Worth, Texas. Passed away at the age of 85 in Santa Anais, Santa Barbara. So he is famous because he was Davey Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier. Which he portrayed to him in a mini series from Walt Disney. And Davey, Davey Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier. Anyways, I remember that. Growing up. It must have been in reruns though, because I wasn't around in 1955. So it must have been played in reruns. And he also played Daniel Boone in a NBC television series from... I watched that like religiously. Really, eh? I don't remember. I don't think our CBC station carried the Daniel Boone one, but it carried Walt Disney six o'clock on Sunday nights. We had tunes, canned hats and fake muskets. And we would play in the backyard and pretend we were Daniel Boone. Oh, that's neat. And he was commissioned as an honorary colonel in the Alabama State Militia by Governor James E. Folsom. I think that's pretty cool. Honorary, made an honorary colonel. So there we go. There's Fess. And then Kurt Russell, who also was connected with Disney early on. Now I'm gonna pause for you for just a second. Okay. We have our good friend and comic hero of WikiTree, Chris Berriello. Yes. That's been going on and on and on and on about Kurt in the comments. So be sure to go back and read what all Chris Berriello has written about Kurt in the comments. Okay. Go ahead. I can hardly imagine what he's... Oh, Kurt. So Kurt was born in the 1950s. He's obviously still alive. And so he has, again, a fairly succinct profile on WikiTree. American Idol notable for Tombstone, the Fast and Furious and Santa Claus. He was born to Bing Russell, also, which must be the sort of colloquial name or the common name for his father who was identified as Neil Oliver Russell here. And who was an actor and Louise Julia Crone, who was a dancer in Massachusetts, started acting at the age of 12 and he was active prolifically for the Disney company through the 60s and 70s. Also played baseball as a switch hitter and a second baseman. And Mary has one son with actress, Susan Hubly. And then been a long time relationship with Goldie Hawn. And you always think of those two or I think of those two as a couple. They have one son together and Goldie's daughter, Kate, Kate Hudson from a previous marriage has adopted. I like how this one, she's adopted Kurt as her father as well. So that's kind of neat. So his article on Wikipedia, which of course is much more fleshed out in the sequence about him being a Disney star. Interesting point of, did you realize that the last thing that Walt Disney wrote before he passed away from cancer were the words Kurt Russell on a piece of paper? Really? Yeah, I mean, according to this source, let's look at the source. Kurt Russell, you are my son. Did he say it? Yeah, really. Well, some things you didn't know about the man on the magic. From his biography. Yeah, isn't that wild? That is pretty wild. That is pretty wild. You don't get these facts anywhere except on a wiki tree live cast, folks. So it's worth tuning in. So yeah, but yeah, he passed. So in 1966, the last thing he wrote. And then of course that took me down a little bit of a rabbit hole about Walt Disney. So he was diagnosed of cancer in November of 66. Got sick and had to be taken to the hospital on November 30th, I think, or right there, right at the end of the month. And then passed away mid-December in the hospital. Lung cancer, he'd been smoking all his life and obviously didn't take care of things. But yeah, last words, Kurt Russell. Give that man a 10-year contract must have been what he said or something. I don't know. But he did lots. I remember lots of the Disney shows had him starring in it and stuff. So there we go. Moving on to, look at that face. Yeah, really? That's a character actor if you ever saw one, eh? He was a great guy. Isaiah Edwin Leopold Wynne. More famously known as Ed Wynne. Not Edwinne, but Ed Wynne. Born on the 9th of November, 1886 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Passed away in 1966 at the age of 79 in Beverly Hills. So there he is, 1943. And there's his very famous pose that his profile picture's taken from. Better known as Ed Wynne, was an American actor and comedian, cut his acting chops on Broadway in the Siegfield Follies in 1914, 15. Like, wow. I didn't realize the Siegfield Follies went that far back. I thought they were like a 1920s phenomenon. No, no, no, they were, I think that they actually, they actually started in the Victorian era, or even earlier. Wow. In the 1880s. Wow. So there you go, I learned something new. His perfect fool comedy character he was noted for, his pirating ready. He had a radio show in the 30s. But he was, he did a serious role in the diary of Anne Frank where he portrayed the dentist and was nominated for best supporting actor for that role. Interesting, I didn't realize he did all of these different voices. Yes. So he was in the Mad Hatter, he was the Mad Hatter in the Alice in Wonderland cartoon. He was the toy maker in Babes in the Toyland. Now that was a live action show, right? As was Son of Flubber, that was, he was Uncle Albert. So he was the guy floating up in the ceiling, right? Yeah. And I always think of the song Uncle Albert from. Yeah. You're so sorry, Uncle Albert. That's right, yeah. Mr. Hoster and that darn cat. I like that show that I, and the Nomemobile, I don't know the Nomemobile. 1907 to 1931 for the Zekefield Follies. Oh, okay, thank you, Lisa. Our wiki-triers, they just know everything. Yeah, I bragged that the forerunner started earlier than that because it was a reaction to the Victorian startiness, you know what I'm saying? Right, yes, yes. And people were like, we gotta get some, and I think it started with Berlesque, and then evolved from Berlesque shows into Follies, yeah. Yeah, you can't go very different between Victorian morals and Berlesque shows, right? No, no, you can't. That's pretty diametrically off the table. And the wives were like, I wanna go out and have fun, so they had to figure out how to make Berlesque acceptable. Acceptable, yeah. But sadly, he succumbed to cancer on the 19th of June, 1966 at home. So he's, I think his Disney legend, yes, so it was posthumous. It was awarded the Disney legend recipient in 2013, so. Interesting piece of trivia. He was originally offered the role of the wizard and the wizard of Oz, so he could have been our wizard. Yeah, well, yeah. But he turned it down because as did WC Fields, who also could have been the wizard of Oz. I couldn't, yeah, no. Yeah, I could see Ed, but I can't see WC. You can't see WC Fields. You notice how I'm using first names like you. Yeah, that's right. So how close are you, how close are you now that you've got the extension to Ed Nguyen? Oh, oh, I only have it turned on. I don't have it. Okay, yeah, okay. Oh, just put me on the spot. Let me see, gotta go to my profile, scroll down. How do I do this? Okay, it should just load, when you load the profile. My menu. Okay, if you go to- Wait, wait, wait, here we go. You got it? My menu. Oh, look at that. Yeah, I went dark mode. Whoa, you went dark. Well, I could add preset stuff and then I accidentally hit a button and it changed all of them to on, so. Oh, okay. You know, it's like when you have it on, then it shouldn't be there. You hit the wrong button. Right. So my menu. It's Leopold 274. If you go to Leopold 274 and go here. Well, I could go down here. Whoops. You can never do anything when you have to. Where's Edwin? There we go. Okay. All right, so now what I wanna do. Well, click on Ed, click on his there. Okay. 22 degrees. So you're not related. It would have said if you were related. Oh, okay. So you're not cousins? No. Oh, well. All right, thank you. No problem. Okay, oh, you're, okay, I'm sharing again. Great. I fixed you. Thank you, okay. So the next person is Abba Yurt Iwerks. Or Abb Iwerks. Born on 24th of March, 1901 in Kansas City. Passed away at the age of 70 in Burbank, Los Angeles. And he is famous because he was the original designer, cartoonist who designed Mickey Mouse. Ha ha, ha ha, ha ha. Exactly. There we go. Yes. So he was born 1901, son of Yurt Uba and Laura May Iwerks. In 1910, he lived with us. He lived in Kansas City. His father worked as a barber. Now I believe his father did leave the family, desert the family, moved away. So he was raised from teenage years on by his mother, hence keeping his mother's last name. He met Walt in 1919 when they were working together in Kansas City. They both found work at the Kansas City Slide Newspaper Company, soon named the Kansas City Film Ed Company. And then Disney started the Laugh-O-Gram cartoon series and Iwerks joined him as a chief animator. Unfortunately, that went bankrupt. Then they moved to Los Angeles and UB followed Walt there. Ah, the Folie-Bergère, Bergère. Lisa, thank you so much. That's neat, Bergère. That's in a musical, that in the Moulin Rouge, I think there was a line that refers to that, the Folie-Bergère. No. Sorry, you're distracting me from what I'm supposed to be doing, Lisa. Sorry, sorry. Ha ha ha. I'm also doing what I'm supposed to be doing is. Yeah, that's right. Is that your job, distracting me? Yeah. Anyways, at Disney's request, he designed a character that became Oswald the Lucky Rabbit. Thank, oh, let me just grab that. Okay. An animated the first cartoon that he started in. But Disney lost the rights to Oswald and about never again to work with a character he didn't own, which probably makes sense. That would be upsetting to have done a lot of work with this character and then all of a sudden the rights are taken away from you. So, I guess, so Disney came up, made an original sketch for the character that would eventually be called Mickey Mouse, but he took the sketch of who turned it into, he refined it and made what the real Mickey is that we all know and love. This is a very well done profile with lots of details. Short story, they fell out of, they worked together for a bit and then they fell out of favor with each other, but then he came back to work for Disney in 1940. Oh, there we go. Okay. Thank you. Came back to work for Disney in 1940 and he actually developed the technique for mixing live action and animation that was used in the Song of the South and in Mary Poppins, which we just talked about because of Dick Van Dyke and Julie Andrews. So that's pretty cool. Passed away after suffering a heart attack. So, and since we talked about Mickey Mouse, we also have to talk about the original designer for Donald Duck, who is Carl Barks, son of William Barks and Arminta Johnson, born in 1901, passed away in the year 2000 at the age of 99. So, he best known for Donald Duck and he also was the creator of Scrooge McDuck. And in fact, he on his, let's see, he populated all of Duckburg. So if you've read the comics or if you've seen the cartoons that have the place where Donald Duck and Scrooge McDuck lived, they have all these different characters along Scrooge McDuck. There's Gladstone Gander, apparently, the Beagle Boys, the Junior Wood Chucks, Gyro Gearloose, Cornelius Coot. The Nephews. The Nephews, the three Huey, Dewey and Louie, all of these people, thanks to this guy. Pretty cool. Ivan Wesley Dodd. Now, I never watched the Mickey Mouse Club but Ivan Wesley Dodd, which was on his birth certificate, Bo, he was baptized as James Wesley Dodd, or John Wesley, what's this say here? He was baptized as James Wesley Dodd. And then his mother, interesting later in 1949, his mother tried to file an affidavit to sort of change his birth certificate to say James instead of Ivan. And they think that's partly because of the sort of the red square that was going on, the House of Un-American Activities Committee. So she didn't want him persecuted because of the first name Ivan, I guess. That's interesting, I have a question. Okay. So it says 18 degrees here? Yes. So that's my connection to him? That's how many, yeah, your connection, yes. Okay, so that's, yeah, okay, cool, thank you. Okay, no problem. Carry on. And my, and mine 23 degrees. So I'm not, we're not cousins. I was looking because I have Dodds very close in my family. Oh, do you? Yeah, but he's not one of my Dodds. Not one of your Dodds. But his Disney connection is that he was the chief musketeer. He was hired by Walt Disney. So he was an actor, he was also a musician, played guitar and singing on a local radio station. And so he became the chief musketeer and the host of the Mickey Mouse Club. Oh, really? From 1955 to 1959, yeah. Yeah, now I never watched the Mickey Mouse Club so I didn't know that, but he was the chief host and he also composed the theme, the Mickey Mouse Club March and many of the songs apparently that were sung. I'm no fool. Net, I guess there was a song all about Annette Funicello was my guess. She was a big star there, right? She was. On the Mickey Mouse Club. Talent roundup, proverbs, oh wow. I'm surprised Annette Funicello didn't make it as one of these. Yes. We should pick out her profile just for, for. Okay, you grab her profile. You grab her profile after your next Eminem there. Anyways, yeah, Mickey Mouse Club, thanks Jimmy. Sadly though, so in August, he and his wife went to Honolulu and they were to film a new children's show, Jimmy Dodd's Aloha Time, that would have been fun. But two days after his arrival, admitted to hospital, suffering from complete exhaustion but what they think it probably was was either a blood disorder or a heart ailment or a form of cancer, but he passed away in November in Honolulu. He was only 54, so way too young. Oh, and there's Annette's, aww. Cool. She's got a pretty good profile. She died on my birthday. Oh no. Yeah, didn't she develop multiple sclerosis or something? I think she did. Yeah, that's the end. Yeah, they're at the end, diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. Yeah, there we go. Nice, nice profile, not heavy overdone, but in that cool, the black, where I'm gonna talk about the black, the dark, I've already come up with something to talk about. Okay, there we go, great. Okay, we just have two more. So Randy Newman. If you ever finished, it's three minutes, three minutes to 11, Craig. Look at this, and I thought I was going through it quickly. Apparently not. Randy Newman, songwriter, extraordinary. Look at all these awards, Academy's, Emmys, blah, blah, all this stuff. Famous for, I remember him originally from the song, Short People. Nobody got short people got me. And you got a friend and me. Oh yeah, yeah. But that was before he became a movie theme song, the Short People came out, 1977. I was in grade seven, and I was already the second tallest in the class. So everyone else was one of the short people. Look, there's another Dodd in the house. Oh, look at that. David Dodd had real crush, a real crush on an ad. Not a fake crush. Newman's connection, of course, with Disney is all the films that he composed, but they are now part of the Disney Pixar collection, which is all the Toy Story stuff, Bugs Life, Monsters Inc, all that stuff. Princess and the Frog, which was a Disney movie. And James the Giant Peach, I didn't realize that was a Disney one, but I guess that the Pixar. So love his stuff. I have a public service announcement. This live cast will be overrunning its time. Yes, I'm afraid it will. And the final profiler week, Tim Dick, also known by his stage name is Tim Allen. Who the heck is Tim Dick? I know, I know. But, yeah. I gotta look that up. What's that number? 1338. So his connection to Disney, of course, is through the Toy Story. Films as well. And also in Cars, he was in Cars. 17th Cousins, twice removed. Ooh, look at you. I'm only 22nd Cousin, four times removed. And you know how I know that? It's because the extension. The extension, there it is. Very cool. Very cool. So there we go. That's Tim's connection. His biography, actually, his biography is pretty, pretty extensive for someone who's still alive compared to some of the others. And he's done lots of others things, too. But... I like to quote him from Tim. From tool, tool, tool. Tool time, Tim. You wanna hear my, you wanna hear my Tim, the tool man. Sure. That's good. That's good. Let me, while I've got the stage, let me do two other sort of things. While I've got the stage. I know. One thing I should let you know, in the fan chart, there's a bug which I fixed, but it just has to be because of the new, because of the way the dynamic tree works, I can't change a file and have it percolate instantly in the dynamic tree. So one of the, there's a bug right now that that someone alerted me to that it doesn't go beyond the seven generations. The eighth, the eighth and the ninth, oh wait a second, that's seven generations. If I open up the eighth, the eighth generation looks like it's empty, but it's not really empty. There's a bug that's, that is preventing that. So I fixed that bug. And once that, those changes get uploaded, your fan charts will be more, will be fulsome once more. So- You're so very glad you put it on, put on your pointy cowboy boots and caught that bug in the corner. I caught that bug in the corner. That's right. Yes. Anyways, so that will be fixed. So if you're worried about the fan charts not looking as full or that you had been missing some ancestors, I fixed that and it will be updated shortly. The only other thing is, thanks to some listeners, so someone who was live, oh shoot, I had Debbie, Debbie Root noted, sent me a message very shortly after the live cast last week, that I had a bug in the Fandoco in that when you clicked on Show Lifespan, everyone had the exact same lifespan. Oh, interesting. Which was not accurate. Not everyone. No. From 1799 and died in 1851. Apparently people lived and died in different years. So now I fixed that. So there you go. So thank you. Apparently, apparently. Apparently. Not everyone. Are you done yet? Well, I also added one more feature that if you hit the wrong one you get a visual clue. Has anybody been playing Fandoco? I like it. I think some people have. I think it would be great for helping your kids learn your family too. I wish I'd had this when my kids were younger. They're still like now, who's cousin is he? You know, when we're somewhere? When you go to set up things, the other thing is you can turn off the dinging, the sounds and also some of those feedback message. So if you don't like the red flashing interface you can turn that off. But it only takes effect when you start a new game. So there we go. Those are my public service announcements about tech and all the rest of the stuff. Back to you, Megs. Well, and speaking of people having lifespans. Oh, yes. I know we're past 11, it's 1102 but we're gonna survive today. Yeah, we will. Well, we had a couple of photos of the week to look at. Go in and upload those. And so Betsy Coe isn't here, neither is Sarah. They're both AWOL. I think that Betsy and Sarah are actually partying down in warm Florida somewhere. That's my story I'm sticking to it. Okay. So the first one was Jane Cleary. She died at 100. Wow. And Greg, look at that organ. Look at that with the stops, the pool stops. That is amazing. Do you remember when there used to be organ salesmen that would come around the neighborhoods and try and sell the family's organs? No. Yeah, everybody got the organs. So I missed that. Wow. Yeah, that's from Alexis Nelson. Alexis often gives us great ones. This is Charles Stilo, who, 90, no, how did he live? Perhaps nine years or more it says. Yeah, nine years or more and that's a good picture. That is. He looks very serious. And here is a fellow that lived to be 95. And that is from John Vasky. The other one was from Pat Miller, sorry. John Vasky, that's Ted Seifert. That's an old picture. It looks like a Polaroid, but it's actually, I remember seeing pictures of me with that date stamped on the side of the. Yes. This is Marie Magritte, Edna Gogang. I don't know how to pronounce that. Edna Cunningham. Nice. He lived a very long life. That's a hundred and what? Hundred and three. Then we've got three sisters here. Don't forget to upvote these people and upvote this. Go down there and click that upvote on our YouTube as well. Irene Mason, Ella Baker, and Emily Ireland. 92, 89, 91. My dad is 92, but I don't know that he would appreciate me putting a picture of him up here. He's still alive. He hasn't. Then my sixth grade grandmother, Bertha Povell's daughter was born in 1739. I'm not even gonna try and pronounce where that was. She lived to be 101 years old. I love this picture. Are you ready for it? Yeah, I'm ready. This is thanks to Judy Bram Lynch, a new profile, Nicholas Veter, who lived to a hundred years old. Oh, wow. Ha, ha, ha. But this is set up. This is set up. He's obviously incredibly old in this picture. And these are muskets. They are. Wow. And is that the liberty behind them, the spine? The flag there. Well-known local figure in his day. Yeah. He looks like it. But that's a great, great picture. And I'm looking at the construction here. This, I mean, this is a stacked rock wall. There's no mortar. And I'm looking over here, and this is a stacked rock wall as well. I wonder if this was like built into the side of a hill kind of. Oh, yeah. I mean, that was in the old days, that's how they did that. That's a beautiful, and look how thick that wall is. Yeah. I love looking at those old houses and old construction. And there's nobody looking out the window. And that window is weird. Yeah. It's not, and then there's a vent window up here. There's a chimney. Sometimes they would put these windows in in odd locations and call them which windows? Oh. Up in the Northeast, they would do that. But they were usually on an angle. And that was a place for the evil spirits to get out of the house. Do you know that whenever you go up Northeast and you see that? Oh. Yeah. Interesting. Schenectogy, last surviving Revolutionary War veteran. So that is why, when did he die? Does it say? 100 years old, let's look and see when he died. Yeah, we're going on and on today, people. He died in 1862. That's crazy. I have a great grandfather who lived to 114, but I don't have a picture of him. Oh, 114? Yep. Yep. He's one of the oldest deaths on Winky Tree. Amazing. Compton, one of my Compton relatives, or Deval Compton anyway. So, Allie, Lily, Alberta Boak. So 100th birthday for her. Then I think there's one, maybe two pictures here. Somebody added a picture. Brad Cunningham, this is a great picture. Yeah. 107. New Brunswick. Wow. My grand-uncle, Jack Reeves, in Barking Essex, 1976, when he was 93, and that's Christine Frost. So those are the profiles of the week. Now we're going to go over and look at the Winky Tree page for Dark Mode. Chris, just letting you know, you need to do some work on your graphics to get them to pop. You can tell that this is put in. You need to go into something, vector graphics and clean up some of the edge. Look at that, yes. Got to clean those up, man. If you're going to let people use Dark Mode. But here's the Dark Mode. And what I really want to do is go to the G to G feed and check out what's coming up soon. Oh, that's interesting. So it doesn't give you the big squares here. It actually reorganizes the screen a bit. It does do some reorganizing, yeah. So the questions that are tagged, okay, you see in the Dark Mode, they have the yellow outline. So we've got Mark Cuban's ancestors coming up, 22, register now to help. Would you like to help Winky Tree celebrate our 15th anniversary coming up next year? Woo-hoo! Yes, yes we do. Celebration for our 10th at Roots Tech when we had our 10th. The Winky Tree Challenge 22, Robbie McMillan Coltrane, that's... That's going on now, right? Yeah, it's on now and... Oh, look! It's because John's working on one of those profiles. Have you seen the Winky Tree browser extension? Have you? Did you work on this, Craig? I didn't do any, I haven't done anything for the browser extension. I worked solely on the dynamic tree, adding some views to that. Jamie is the queen of extensions, so I'm wondering if she did a bunch of work on that. She managed all that. Jamie does a lot of Winky Tree programming. She does. People don't realize how much she does. She's up there big. So that's the stuff coming up and that is your Saturday live cast. Yes, thanks for joining us. Yeah, we... And sticking with us, Rose, who did it. Greg, Greg, by 10 minutes. Wow. Greg. Yeah. Greg. I thought I had organized it so I would go through quick and some of those profiles I did pretty quick. Yesh, yesh. Okay. Greg, love you, man. Love Winky Tree. You guys had a great week and we will see you next week. And Betsy Ko will be back. But before we go, Betsy Ko will be back next week too. Sarah won't be back, but Betsy Ko will be back. But Sarah will be back after Christmas, so. Yeah. Guys, have a great, great week. Have a great week. And I will pull up the brand and get us out of here. Okay.