 Hey everyone, what's up? It's your girl Rachel here. Welcome to another special AMA today. Today, I'm joined by Serge bar He is the CEO and co-founder of point labs. Hi, Serge. How's it going? Hi, Rachel. Yeah, thanks for having me all good. I'll go to the side and see you. Yeah Wonderful. Well, thanks again for joining us audience before we get started I want to remind you guys to please drop your questions in the chat Below Serge is here to answer those. He's an expert when it comes to all things web 3 So let's get started. Um, Serge first question. What is point labs? Yeah, so Starting with easy questions point labs is the company that is building the software that we have point network Which is as we say worlds first Real full web 3.0. I had completely decentralized into that this dream that many technologies have been having and now It's here, right? And it started with the idea and then the prototype and then finally we are launching right now like this month and so First so it's a good time to launch right because of the all the things that we probably will talk about that tornado cash Incidents and all the web 3 supposedly decentralized projects sensory and everything right and many other things So it's a good timing But of course so I did the first idea and then prototype and then of course only things to the team at point labs It's now from a junkie prototype to a to a proper Just one click installation the point browser opens and you on web 3. So that's the that's the team that's doing this Got it. Let's dig in a little bit deeper. What are the goals behind the platform and what problems does it aim to solve? All right, so it's a it's a peer-to-peer network and the main idea is that for many for many Years and decades. There are many projects that are pushing for decentralization of one thing or another and it works really well right so be torrent push for decentralization of the file storage and file sharing example There was before before that there was Napster and mega by Kim dot com right and we know how that ended up So government just shuts down all those platforms But then someone created be torrent and finally file sharing become became decentralized and many people want to shut it down But they cannot in the same way Bitcoin was created right even before Bitcoin. There were many digital currencies But only Bitcoin was able to do a full decentralization of money, right? So Bitcoin decentralized decentralized money successfully and cannot be shut down cannot be censored, etc But there was always this this dream that maybe we can decentralize the whole internet starting with domains and storage and Everything right so that we can get rid of censorship and mass surveillance and all those things that that's the idea of web 3 Right, that's the dream and we've been looking at other projects trying to do that and we haven't found Anything close. So that's why we decided to build it and now it's it's finally life In terms of what problems it's trying to solve. It's mostly the censorship and mass surveillance, right? And there are two groups of people that are That are users and enjoy using this one of them is the crypto users Of course, they know a lot about this and about web 3 and decentralization And of course there and there's normal people or normal people. I mean, you know what I mean, right? Crypto people are weird. I stand by my word Yeah, yeah, it's a diverse group, but yes So we we need to teach normal people even why why they need this right like everyone else And to them I say look in 2022 Fortunately people know about this and know about First of all the mass surveillance, right? Snowden did it in 2013 when he showed the documents by the government saying that everything is Like all our private information private files Photos videos pictures location history everything gets streamed into data centers of spy agencies of different governments, right? In the same the united states, etc And then since then nothing has changed, right and and they try to do this legal battle Of course there was an outcry In the public but nothing has changed. So Snowden says there are two ways One is the legal way and the other route is technological route and the legal way failed. Unfortunately, but there is this hope for The technological innovation that can change this and encryption and to encryption and all those things So that's that that's about the mass surveillance, right? Because this is still happening billions of people all the information getting collected and then abuse It's not even used for like to battle terrorists or whatever They use it for their own personal reasons and career reasons and political reasons One just have to go to wikipedia to like type lovins, right to see what Just young guys have access to everyone's private information. They would do what they do So this the full encryption is supposed to stop it and then the second portion is censorship and again Maybe two years ago. I had to explain to people now. I don't have to everyone knows about censorship, especially like in In the west, right the big tech They're just banning people and people don't even know why and big content creators, right? They get banned every time crypto creators And even like people that have millions of subscribers on on twitter on youtube Millions of people want to watch them or listen to them and then they just get suspended, right? And of course they can get restored, right as you know, like they go on twitter and then youtube Oh, sorry. We restored your account. But what about those hundreds of thousands of people that just you know They they tried to build their audience, but they didn't realize that it wasn't their audience It was big tech's audience and they were renting it from them and so Again point network is Web 3 is supposed to get rid of it web 3 done, right Where they own their audience and they have decentralized social media and they can do whatever So they have freedom of speech and they can post and the audience belongs to them and the monetization belongs to them Not like half of that being predatory taken by big tech Companies, etc. So that's the two things and for crypto people It's it's it's mostly the web 3 decentralization, right because probably we'll talk that Web 3 is not really web 3 right now and not decentralized especially it was in this month. It became obvious That's the two groups Right. Yeah. No, I agree. It has become obvious with there is a lack of decentralization that we're seeing We're seeing a lot of hacks But I want to know in terms of a use case for the point network. What would one of the main use cases be Yeah, so we have many right So if you like go to our website point network.io and click roadmap and you will see It's not the roadmap you expect right on q4. We do this and then we do this It's a big like tele like website and it has all those things that infrastructure that we build but also like Tens of projects that could be if this real web 3 is Finally done and then teams be a building on that one of them is point social Which is completely decentralized and uncensurable social network that we have and that's the application that most users of point browser enjoy There is point mail which is end-to-end encrypted email, right? We talked about mass surveillance and it starts there and then for example point drive Which is like google drive, but with end-to-end encryption where you don't have to worry about You know that that your files might get deleted or surveilled etc etc so several many different projects I could talk about that for yes, I see the picture is up you can see many different projects we have and Of course, we just we don't we still a small team. So we invite anyone if they want to build on top of real web 3 and To to help us build the rest of the projects that web 3 needs right now. So like subscriptions, right, which we don't have that For example, some content creators on the blockchain even right. They have subscription newsletters But they decided not to use bitcoin even those that are pro-crypto because they said that We cannot make people subscribe and then pay each month because on bitcoin There's only push payments or ethereum or whatever, right? But what if we can make it the smart contract that can do pull payments like credit card you subscribed And then it's automatically being charged and that's how you get access to all those payable articles, etc, etc Right there's one clip. So many things like that the vaults you you'll remember the hack that Probably yeah, well in the salon ecosystem a lot of people remembered with phantom wallet and it was the slope wallet that did this and So we were talking with with the saloon team as well foundation how we can make vaults Where most of your money is stored in one wallet and then you need 24 hours To so if you want to withdraw you will have 24 hours to see that your money is withdrawn If it's an attacker, you can still rework it with the second key stuff like that I could talk about that for many Yeah, yeah, no, so it's an it's an entirely decentralized network Everything on the network is decentralized the storage So yeah, that that's amazing. I'm going to take a quick question from an audience member Zed the zed creator is asking where will these apps reside? So I'm assuming the apps On the network, where will they reside? Yes, so that's a very good question, right? Because right now all the web three projects They call themselves web three, but the only decentralized part is smart contract, right? So for example, there was this project called budget hour and the smart contract was audited to death But at the same time they trusted cloudflare for the user interface, right? And then cloudflare got hacked the account that hacked and that's how they were able to inject malicious things into that and 130 million dollars were lost and the same thing literally happened twice This this month. So for example, uh curve.fi got hacked because of their name servers because again everything The rest is completely centralized, right? And they say oh, sorry, uh name servers got hacked and they changed it and then the whole eth dot link So many people in ethereum, right? Have dot eth handles, right? Which is like the the blockchain Domains, but the browsers don't understand dot eth natively and so people say oh, how about we use dot eth dot link Which is a gateway that browsers can understand but it's a centralized gateway and funny thing happened or not funny for people that might have lost money or whatever, but ethereum name service foundation ens foundation that it was in charge of this They forgot to renew the domain and so the domain expired and it went into the hands of someone else And all the thousands of decentralized applications on ethereum for people that were accessing it through the centralized gateway they were down and And and it was replaced by efficient List of fishing leads, etc, right? So in this case, what what happened? So that's why we were for complete decentralization because that's the only that's the only way it works The domains are on the blockchain dot point But normal browsers don't understand dot point So we have our own point browser Which is just another app people download and then inside the point browser They can only use dot point domains and only the decentralized storage which is on rv. We use rv for decentralized storage and It's we made it completely isolated from web 2 so it's growing as its own ecosystem as its own network web 3, right? And this should be this way It's like blockchains are completely isolated from the external world So much so you have to use oracles right to bring information from outside to another Similar here because we don't want any Application developers to say or our application is decentralized And then actually not do that and still ping their centralized servers and store nfts on freaking aws And then ping google analytics for ip addresses and spy on when people know in point browser Web 2 is completely disconnected and only the decentralized storage and that's what makes it censorship resistant And against past surveillance and everything so the the the domains that decentralized the storage is decentralized on rv And we like instead of using metamask, which if it gets deleted tomorrow A lot of people will be confused what to do next, right? But what we do is we even replace that and we Mimic all the apis of those wallets. So it's in the browser So if you if you get uniswap onto point network, they feel right at home They don't need to change anything all the skills web 2 3 developers You already have you can just use there because instead of metamask, it will just open up information window. So that's the Several things. Yeah, I mean that opens up A lot of questions from me, but I'm going to continue because the audience now has a lot of questions So I'm going to focus on those first. Um, let's see. So dream big is asking How will creators benefit from point network? specifically like I said right now the the problem is that The creator economy is now centralized and big tech took over everything right they monopolized And that's that's the idea behind this web 1 2 and 3 web 1 was mostly a read-only web But the main thing is what it was almost decentralized everyone had their own home page and the blog and everything right and then came web 2 And big tech companies monopolized everything now You don't have your own audience like your own newsletter or something you rented from big tech Right and they they allow you to use the audience right no matter how many people you have like thousands of people hundreds of thousands And they can take it away at any moment right by any reason and you have no recourse basically you you cannot do anything And so this will already help because creators who have peace of mind that they can they can do this But it also opens many more possibilities Like all those apps they cannot even do tipping properly right but on the central social media you can actually do that And then all the predatory fees like they charge like half of that to 20 percent Action web 3 you can have your own your own thing where people can subscribe to you And and you take the whole thing right or some some small card to the Application developers whatever the dub will be but I think that's going to be very useful and And helpful to many creators that are now the platform like thousands of them Yeah Right. I'm also going to take a question from ikhwan. They're asking how much supply of points So that's the token that powers the network correct Yeah, yeah I guess they're asking because we are launching literally right the public sale launch today and then in two weeks We are launching the main net, uh, but yeah, you can just see on the main website There is the the on the top bar you can click and you can see the whole economics Yeah, the supply is 1 billion it started with that and then there's some inflation to the to the stakers and validators And because it's a proof of stake chain, right? So you have to if you start the the blockchain from zero But you don't have proof of work you have proof of stake if nobody has anything if everyone starts from zero It's not secure. So there has to be initial For all proof of stake projects. That's why they do it. There's not even an option to do something else Um, but yeah, you can get all the information there and like we so we don't Um, unfortunately, we cannot sell directly to some jurisdictions like even the the united states, right? But we can airdrop some tokens for free So if you're from the united states, you can just write and without any obligation We can just send you some to play with the network and see how it works because we want you to be a part of this movement as well Um, but yeah, I know that but that's cool. I'm curious to see how it works as well Um, and so with that in mind, let's talk about the launch of the main net and you said that's supposed to happen september 1st Mm-hmm. Can you go into some detail there about what we can expect with the launch? yeah, I mean, so The main the main thing for us is that Like we had several test nets right and and now we have a test net that that's open to the public and not just not just Alpha not just closed But of course, we just want to launch the network already and have something something that People can already have the point token which which is going to be The main default payment method on this new network on this new decentralized internet that we're building right for everything Basically, if you if you have like subscriptions to someone if you send invoices to someone whatever feature we built Of course, this is going to be the default Default token but at the same time we try to avoid all this like a lot of toxicity I am encrypted for quite a while. I've been watching other projects and They like to compete with each other but instead we just want to integrate everyone right So instead of competing with with them with platforms. We say hey, we don't limit you to point chain Right, which is where the point token is for example You can open uniswap.point and the uniswap will open And the ui is going to be completely decentralized. It's not like uniswap.org and all the Well, we're gonna probably gonna talk about tornado cash and what they do So uniswap is not completely decentralized because they ping their servers to do this But the main idea is that if when you click the the button to swap It happens on the ethereum chain because point browser has the point wallet integrated So whatever you want and then the next minute you might go to Radium right which is on solana ecosystem and then again in the same browser and then you click and But it happens on the solana chain. So we don't don't force people to just oh, this is what we have This is web 3 We believe that the future web 3 is collaborative right and then we see which chain is better and The natural evolution of things Got it. Okay. I'm gonna take another question from the audience z creators asking Could all of these things be manageable from our computer while not depending on your server storage Okay, this question shows that still some people don't understand exactly what we what we have or don't believe that it is possible And that's what's blocking them from understanding that this is an option. There are no servers It's not stored on servers. For example, they're the blockchain that the things on the blockchain the dot point domains They are in the smart contracts right on the blockchain So it's on everyone's computer that's running the notes But then of course one of the problems was you cannot store petabytes of information On the blockchain because it's infeasible right and that's why the blockchains are already bloated and it's expensive And that's why they are decentralized storage projects Right well ipfs you might know for example about ipfs and filecoin and our beef is one of those storage projects and what you do is basically You pay micro payments to those storage providers So that they store the files for you and then serve them on the web And so you the main difference with ipfs for example on ipfs If you have something up there and you're online, it's okay But as soon as you go to sleep all your decentralized facebook posts or whatever they go offline as well And unless someone pins your content shares it But they're not gonna do it because why would they store your dog the cat pictures or whatever right? But here you just pay in micro payments and tokens to storage providers and then keep it up 24 7 online while you go to sleep and it's uncensored like if half of the rv network goes down The other half will still continue to serve your content and your websites and your distinctions applications and your decentralized twitter posts Etc. Etc. So that's how it works. There is no servers and you don't need to Have your computer you just go and then you close the laptop you go to sleep Your website is up without being on any specific server on any ip address So that's what we try to do. It's like it's like bit torn but for the whole web. That's Yeah, and then I'm I'm very assert. So like right now you're you're using our weave But will you incorporate file point and other decentralized storage providers moving forward? Sure, like we needed to start somewhere right because imagine if we It was already hard enough to launch an infrastructure project in the middle of the nft craze right on like we try to to raise money from the vcs And then they have like some infrastructure projects and a lot of nft and metaverse and whatever right so And now even in the bear market, it's not much changed because most of them are broke, right? but Yes going back to so we had to limit our scope right we cannot integrate everyone at the same time Even though we want to in the future But that's that's what we want to do in the long term. So we are not Isolating anyone we're not forcing anyone to use point chain or rv if and Yes in the future it's it's only the trade-offs right so we can we can integrate ipfs right now But the problem is if people start using it and they go offline Half of our content will be down right so that that's not that's not very useful But if they do it with rv or file coin in the future with file coin There was also there were also some considerations for example in order to be a file coin minor you need to have a very expensive hardware gpu's to You know have crunch zero knowledge proofs, etc. And our rv doesn't have that but we are welcome to kind of Anyone can just put a plug in and Yeah, I'm also curious why you've decided to launch the main net Now it seems like this is a very complex project extremely complex actually and Maybe you've been thinking about it for a while But now that web 3 is on the rise and now you're ready to launch the main net september 1st So what kind of you know what kind of drove that decision to launch now is what i'm asking versus last Yeah, well web 3 is not on the rise like our our position is that there's no real web 3 right There was no real web 3 until now because all of this was web 2.5 So people conflate the dream of web 3 this completely decentralized internet that people Technologies care about and wanted to do with the reality and they sell a lot of web 3 projects As if they are web 3 and then reality hits and they see that unfortunately, right? The the domains are censored and then cloud flare is getting hacked and all this right? So there was no real web 3 Until this time. So that's that's what we call about the timing Yes, I mean the one of the things we should really really make clear is that this is all experimental software right those are all experiments in technology like expect chaos nobody knows what's gonna happen and But that also That's the main factor that doesn't stop that doesn't stop us from making progress right because if it's experimental software We should do it instead of waiting five or ten more years If you already have the work in alpha and also we hope that people will start building on top of it, right? And there are two layers to this right so the point chain, uh, it's the that's the main net And so this one we just use we are blockchain agnostic. We can use any other chain. We try to do polygon Now we're trying the evmos test net It's the browser that is experimental, right? So even if for example someone buys in the public sale We put the message that don't send all your money to point browser yet right because this is the product in progress but the main main That the main net the chain is Well, we hope that it's secure enough. We piggyback off of Work a good work of evmos team and another side But that's the idea so we already want our own token so that it has value In the sense of it has a ticker and it has a price so that when you send likes on decentralized social media It they have something it's not test net tokens. It's not useless and people just send to each other It's something that we can play with already and see what economic game theory Plays we have on top of that and how people react. So that's the main thing why Why we're ready to do that? So before that like we worked for two years on that right? We see other projects They just launched one white paper and the token and that's it and then they promised to do some product We decided no we do it the right way even before they launched the token We first make sure that we have the product and we have users we post products and post users And that's what we've done. So after uh, one and a half years I think it's it's time to uh to make it to make it official Yeah, and obviously that's extremely important Um, I just want to remind the audience keep sending us your questions. This is a really interesting topic because it's it's like This is the real web 3 Let's see here. I'm going to take this question from the audience. Hafid is asking What is the difference between point network and icp? I don't know what icp is to search. Maybe you can answer that Well, it's the product called internet computer by definitive foundation, right? So they were they were pro-definity then they rebranded and normally like we try not to Not to say uh, some some things about projects like we are just doing our own things I there's enough toxicity on the internet But unfortunately when you have a website that says we are the real web 3 for the first time They are gonna come people from other projects and say no no no Like we already have web 3 And then what happens is usually they come to our twitter threads and they start want to to to fight us and do a public debates And uh, you know a lot of them lose, right? So for example, well, I'm not gonna name names Just in the case of icp It wasn't uh too bad because they they honestly admitted after we had this conversation because icp fans came to us and said no no no your uh Oh the the definitive one of the definitive community people says call us pointless network and instead of It's an amusing pun. Okay. Good to him. Uh good for him, but Instead of doing this back and forth, we just showed him the part where it says icp is not decentralized even the developers admit And then what ensued is the public conversation you can see it on our twitter and in the end they said yes icp is not decentralized in this way the access to icp and and That's why uh, we will continue working on it and we said hey, we can just integrate you and save you years of rnd Right, so let's talk about this. So we'll see what's going to happen In integration, I feel like is always the best way to go in the space and just working together to solve these problems um, I'm curious search because I recently um Explored this topic and I want to get your thoughts on it Are you leveraging is point network leveraging multi-party computation at all for the encryption? Just to kind of make the network super secure We don't have uh, we don't have any layers where this would where this would be needed um And I'm trying to remember right the multi-party computation. That's probably not the shamir shared secret but probably the Uh, the the shared computation homomorphic encryption and all this stuff But I might be I might be wrong There's a lot of there's a lot of stuff that I have missed while I've been working on the on the on the main website stuff So instead instead of uh, instead of trying to create like come up with bs answers, right? Uh, it will probably be best to to ask us later and we will probably have an article on that Uh, but I don't see any any layer Where this would be needed yet and if it's needed like even zero knowledge for example It's uh, it's it's a cool thing But uh, we we don't use it because we saw no need for it yet in what we do But other projects that build on top of us like for example, even to another cash that we talked about right and others privacy Projects they they leverage zero knowledge proofs and good for them, right? So I I'm not even going there I'm staying in my lane so to speak right on the basic internet protocols because let's let's decentralized those first Um, and for the security we have validators. Yes Got it validators. Okay. Cool. Good to know. Um going back to the audience questions because we've got a few of those coming in So goal on gone is asking I'm interested about the point articles on medium Can I be an official translator in the point network articles? I guess it also just about like the community and how involved they can be Well, uh, yes It shows but at the same time like we have those questions, uh, like hundreds Hundreds in rdms, right and one even ended up on the official ma of coin telegraph, but Well, I mean, yes So send us an email to info at point network.io and we'll figure it out, right? So I don't even know which language right official translator because we have some already lined up. Thank you for the Yeah, are the articles are they in in english? I miss or is that or their other languages that they're in Most of the articles in English, but on discord we have a community and some of them translate Uh for free and then we give them some gifts Okay, like on the bounty campaign. Maybe that's what is asking Let's just write us a message and our operations team will deal with it. I have a lot of my play too Got it. Got it Okay, dream big is asking well point domains remain remain free after the launch Is there any advantage over unstoppable domains? So see here's what we did, right? We um, we had a name system Uh, what many many domain name systems already exist like dot eth, right? That we talked about the theorem name system and even icp have has those and you can see a lot of dot crypto unstoppable domains, etc but At the same time they they all suffer one thing for example There are cyber squatters that go and buy a lot of domains thousands of those, right? And then imagine if some some famous person comes in I mean even mask just the first that comes to mind, right? And goes to platform or some even companies Microsoft, Samsung, whatever And they see that their their their handle is already taken and they would be like, okay Like we they lose interest in the network and and what's going on, right? Because now they have to buy for millions of dollars this handle or use something else like real on mass But even that can be bought so it would be real real real um Rachel, etc, right? So what we did instead is for the first six months There is a simple centralized oracle running and it scans the twitter for activation So basically if you have it if you have twitter you can have your twitter handle claimed on point So it would be your twitter handle was the point um, and then uh after six months it's it's um, it's disconnected and then it's completely free But again, it will probably be auctioned off. Otherwise people would be just buying uh all those all those handles, right? So But but what you have right now, it will stay with you So it will not be taken away And if you already have the handle we're not going to do some some rent Like other name servers are doing but uh, yeah, it's yours. You can already take it. Got it. Okay, wonderful Audience keep the questions coming. These are really great. I'm going to take a question from mary evans They're asking if our team wants to deploy an ft project on point network Do we need to create a platform first like open sea or will or there will be your or will or will there be your analog? I'm not really sure what that means, but Okay, okay, that's a that's a good that's a good question. Um, so See the thing is if we just so again, you can look at our roadmap, right? We have a lot of a lot of things to build and one of them is the infrastructure either domains the storage the node, etc But uh, if we just did that imagine nobody like Okay, they download the browser and it's empty. There is no default projects, right? They just go away if we wait for others to build so If we yes, yes though, so we cannot build all of those like if you can scroll right There's a lot of them But at least we can build something right? So it's like on let's say apple ecosystem There is the main apple os right or ios and they also have their own apps So there are thousands and tens of thousands of apps that are other others are developing And then there are some apps like nodes right and pages and numbers and all this stuff So we are trying to build at least something but we of course, we don't have all the resources in the world world Maybe because of your NFT projects. I'm just kidding because a lot of the spotlight they took away from projects That are not as flashy because infrastructure is not fun and you know, nothing not Doesn't have pretty pictures, but um, yeah, so we have NFT Marketplace that we are Well, okay, I should not promise anything right because of the legal team told me not to but we want Let's just say to build an NFT marketplace But if not, you know other developers, you know, welcome to join we always need more because it's not going to be just one team Hopefully it's going to be a community effort Yeah, that's interesting a 100 percent decentralized NFT marketplace. That's really exciting. Yeah It needed open see There was this article by Moxie mark on spike or sorry. I think I butchered his name Sorry moxie He's a creator of signal and then he went into a web three and he wanted to create something that he said, oh, it's completely decentralized It's a very good article It's completely centralized. That's what he said And then one of the things is he created an NFT that changes the changes Turns into a poop emoji from whatever pretty picture he had before in metamask, right? And then open c banned his NFT and he's like, okay That's definitely not decentralized and then after open c banned the NFT metamask stopped showing it Because metamask uses open c and infura and all the centralized things right and so people don't realize it, unfortunately but Soon they will after like another cache getting banned from all the platforms, etc And only those after the war between governments and big tech will ensue and and the web three right governments and big tech against web three And this is just the first Well, the first signal Only those projects will remain that are completely centralized otherwise They can just if if it can happen by negligence or those dot each dot link Domains right if someone can just forget to renew the domain and lose the domains this way What stops them from just taking the domain away the domain registers the dns or those attack points And so that's what we don't want to happen, right? Yeah Search so i'm curious because and i i i understand what you're saying for sure Like this is needed now We're starting to see the warnings of the fact that there really isn't decentralization in a lot of these projects But i feel like it's going to be very complicated to get users to use a fully decentralized network only because it's so um New and maybe complex. So how do you plan on combating combating that challenge and and let and like showing users that this is actually easy to use and manageable, I guess Well, I mean you should try it, right? It's not scary. It's it's feels exactly like normal web too, right? So let's say our point social, which is the decentralized social network that we have it feels exactly like Let's say twitter, right? But of course it's on the central infrastructure and people only notice this When they see the dot point domain at the top, right? But it feels exactly the same and they interact with it. So that's what we wanted to do We wanted to bring web to interfaces into web 3 because hopefully that will improve mass adoption of Of all web 3 projects, right? Not just ours And so that's the idea, right? So it's not it's not scary and the uis will become better and better and they already are I mean, not just us but in general in web 3 and so people will get used to it, right? It was the same with the internet, right? People couldn't couldn't use email properly and now everyone no matter what age what background they just swipe, right? Because the interface is easier So it's just a matter of the maturity of all the software and user interfaces and all the startups that are building that Yeah Okay, great answer I'm going to take another question from the audience and guys We have about five more minutes. So keep your questions coming. Mary Evans is asking Will there be any documentation for creating smart contracts available for developers? For example to move from Solana or solidity to point network Oh, like I said, it's already so our network is evm compatible, right? So meaning that already all the solidity skills that you you know You can already deploy all those things on top of point network, right? So uh and The same thing for for other networks, for example, you don't have to even move to uh to our network You can just the contract can stay there and you can just deploy ui if you want so it can be multi-staged Move to point network ecosystem, right? So if some team you need swap whatever some team wants to become completely centralized They can just first deploy the ui user interface And then the contract will stay on ethereum, right or on on Solana if it's radium, for example, etc And then when you click the browser will re-root everything it connects to all the chains that that are Adopted already by the browser and we want to produce produce more And so you don't have to know anything different and again You don't need to learn almost anything except the new things that we do Let's say we do subscriptions on the on the blockchain, right? Some teams build something different. For example, the Like you said, I secure multi-party computation whatever crazy things they build It will require new apis that are simply not there in any of the web three projects Right and we will have to integrate that so of course you will have to learn those and we already have a little bit of Like point sdk api and we have documentation on that you can click on the website but mostly all your solidity skills are preserved and You can think like when you move your your application from there to point It will just connect thinking that it's talking to the metamask or a phantom wallet or but in actuality It's connecting to the browser and doesn't even know about it. So everything is transparent in this way So it should be Sir, so given that response Has it been easy or challenging to find developers to help build out this network? Well, yes, it's uh, it's um, like I said, it's the problem with marketing at all for infrastructure projects Right because of course all those flashy projects that have nft sales or whatever You can you can see i'm jaded by nfts right because they still the spotlight a lot And we even have the thread the thread explaining that how how we can actually make it more palatable for infrastructure and security projects to survive on web three and we said how about every dowel that that has It's not gonna be forced But just let's socially accept that every dowel or most dollars would start doing this and they would allocate some percentage of The resources let's say like, I don't know 0.2 percent of their tokens or their revenue of the dowel To the libraries that they use. Okay. You use moustrap library. You use web 3.js You use whatever right All of those will automatically go to those libraries right and then those libraries will pay their dependencies And they will pay the developers that are doing that and then you know open source will flourish right because right now What's the incentive basically for developers to build on top of web three not just point but in ethereum, etc If they don't do the project But they do just some libraries because someone just gonna take it and use for free in their multi million nft projects Right and nothing going there, but if we kind of do this Trickle down thing, but it goes to the actual developers. Maybe it will be more Maybe it will even be more lucrative than Enterprise jobs and working on some crm in some company and people say now we can actually build an open source Because if my library became famous becomes famous and other projects uses big projects Even though my project is not a slushy it comes to me right We are project and our developers get more funding and they continue to operate that way right so It's it's it's not a it's not a quick discussion But you can look it up on our twitter The suggestion and you're probably gonna do it and start with us as well Yeah, yeah, no, it's interesting. Um, we have a few more minutes search. So I just want to ask One question. Well, first of all, what can we expect next from point network? And also, how soon do you think the world is to achieving true decentralization From actual web three projects like how close are we to that threshold? I guess Well, I mean we are launching right so so it's it's already So the infrastructure is basically done the architecture itself, right? But of course as I said, it's an experimental project and there's still a long way to go with in terms of Making completely secure even though there's no such thing as completely secure, but we should strive for it Etc, right? So there's still gonna be some time before the platform matures and the api is mature Etc, etc in terms of what's next, uh, I mean you can see on our roadmap what our vision for web three is It's called Roadmap to web three, right? And that's what we think like all those projects will become but honestly We probably don't even know what's going to happen right if you ask like I don't know if if you ask any project founder Like if you ask italic back then when he was creating the theorem What kinds of projects would be there is no way he would have said Oh, yeah, is there's gonna be nfts and defy and cryptic it is right and all those things because and year c20, right? So it's only later that we figure out. Oh, okay That's what happens and the same happens Let's say creators of the internet when they created basic internet protocols And they got asked like what's uh, you know what's gonna happen They they would have no idea right and we will see we will see in the future like there is a clip of There's a clip of bill gates and letterman back in the past I know knight is probably where he's trying to explain to letter David letterman the internet And cannot because it says oh you can watch any game and stream The the the play and he says well, we have radio for that What have you heard of radio and he says oh, but you can record it and let him a sense Have you heard about vcr's right you can record and so it was hard to explain But only later we see so many things that the internet has bought so I guess let's see. Let's wait and see what happens Right exactly. Yeah, I guess we'll just wait and see what happens surge We're basically out of time so before we end the ama if the audience has more questions for you How should they get in touch? Yes, I'm most active on a telegram chat and discord but not as much So you can just go to our website, which is point network.io Or you know what you can just type into google real web 3 and our website comes up first, right? That way you don't be spelled But yes, then you click it and then you can see in social media or telegram chat and you can ask us questions You can email us And we'll try our best to respond and if you want to be part of the project become a developer We'll try our best to also integrate you into the ecosystem and if you want to become an early adopter So you can see there Great wonderful surge. It's been a pleasure speaking with you. It's a fascinating project. I can't wait to see how it unfolds It's timely and very needed right now And I want to just thank the audience for joining us and for sending us your questions these these have been great questions And I just want to remind everyone to subscribe to coin telegraphs youtube channel. We do amas like this all the time So yeah, it's been wonderful being here and with that being said, I guess we're going to say goodbye now Thank you Rachel likewise for the pleasure Thanks guys. Bye