 A i ddim yn gwybod i ddweud y sydd wedi ei dweud arian yn yr unig o'r ffordd o ddeligedd ar y cymryd hyaidd, ac mae'n teimlo i fy mod dechreufwy o'r pethol. Ychyniddiadol ffasilfoton 1328 yn yr ymddiiddor John Adam, a srif i ddweud ffasilfoton, ac amgylcheddor John Adam, nhw hefyd, i ddod yr elcau. The motion is moved, Presiding Officer. If any member wishes to contribute, please press your request to speak button now. I call on Stephen Kerr. I rise to speak against— Sorry, Mr Kerr. Can you just excuse me for one moment, please? Okay. Thank you, Mr Kerr. If you could just bear with me, we're going to hear from Mr Bibby first. Neil Bibby. Thank you, Presiding Officer. I wish to move an amendment to the business motion requiring a ministerial statement to take place on Covid vaccination certificates. This is something Scottish Labour requested that the parliamentary bureau both last week and this week. Parliament voted for certification after the Scottish Government brought forward a debate, but it did so before the Government could set out how the scheme would be implemented. The Government rightly saw the importance of debating the principle of the certification in Parliament. We didn't support the Government's proposals, but it's equally important now that there's proper and full scrutiny of the Government's implementation of this in the chamber. The First Minister's Covid updates are on a range of issues, and we need dedicated time so that members can raise the many questions they have about the implementation of this scheme. Many sectors of the Scottish economy have questions that they want us to raise on their behalf. Indeed, we learned today that the Night Time Industries Association are launching a legal challenge. The scheme will have a massive impact on businesses and workers and will go live at the end of next week. We need a statement because there are still too many unanswered questions. For example, where is the economic impact assessment? Will one be carried out? Further questions about what is a nightclub and what isn't. Detailed questions for venues that don't normally have door staff about how and when enforcement is carried out. I wouldn't expect the Minister for Parliamentary Business to be able to answer these questions now. That's why we need a dedicated ministerial statement or another debate if the Government wants one in this chamber to address the many outstanding concerns that our constituents have. I move the amendment. I rise to speak against today's business motion. The proposed programme does not include a further debate on the details of the Scottish Government's shambolic vaccination certification plans. While we will support Neil Bibby's amendment, we still believe the final business motion if amended falls short of an adequate level of scrutiny. Members really should need no reminder. It is the business of Parliament to scrutinise the executive. After weeks of the Deputy First Minister dodging questions on the definition of a nightclub, the First Minister yesterday believed that she had clarified the matter. In fact, her definition raised more questions than it answered. Dr Liz Cameron, chief executive of the Scottish Chambers of Commerce, said that the Government's new definition will result in thousands of businesses being caught up in vaccine certification rules with little time left to understand, plan and implement. She said that the Scottish Government was now going beyond what was initially proposed. Each time the Deputy First Minister dodged the question, it was Scottish businesses who lost out. Each time an SNP backbencher read a Google definition of a nightclub and what I am sure they thought was a clever debate rebuttal, it added to the confusion for Scottish businesses. Now, with the First Minister's new definition, thousands of business owners are despairing at being included in the category of nightclub, despite being nothing of the sort. There is confusion, genuine confusion. The First Minister may assume a certain level of intelligence among those she speaks to, but I for one would rather the Government explained itself rather than suggest that those who do not understand are simply stupid. I hear that there is now a legal challenge being mounted. Presiding Officer, we must have more time to properly scrutinise these proposals in a meaningful way. The business motion does not allocate time to do so, and that is why we will be opposing it at decision time. Thank you. I now call on George Adam to respond on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau. Initially, when I took on the role of Minister for Parliamentary Business, I vowed that I would be reasonable with colleagues in the Parliament, and I have said to Mr Bibby on numerous occasions that there will be time when we will be able to work together and ensure that you will get a statement that you have requested. There are times when I will not be able to do that. I will give the reasons in this case just further down the line, but I have tried to be reasonable. I think that, just by Mr Kerr's intervention earlier on there, we see how difficult that job is when I am trying to be this reasonable, reasonable individual trying to work through the business that we have got in front of us here today, because how can you deal when you are trying to be reasonable with someone who is just constantly show-boting and just playing for the gallery all the time? It is impossible to deal with that. What I will say on Covid certification and how it works is extremely important, and it is my position that we have had the opportunity to debate, question and discuss, and if surely we can forget the theatrics at the moment, and we can possibly move on to the reasons why I actually believe that there will be ample time. We have had a topical question on the issue last week, we have had Covid statement of which the First Minister has stood in her feet for the past two weeks for two hours and answered questions to every single individual who has asked regarding Covid. During that period, we have had Opposition members, and that may shock you. Opposition members on the issue that I was told at the bureau was one of the most important issues that had to be debated and had to be discussed. Five Opposition members asked questions about it. The First Minister is on her feet for two hours over the past two weeks. There has been a topical question on it. To add to that, the Deputy First Minister attends the Covid Committee every two weeks. Let's revise this again. Apart from the topical question, two hours of Covid-19 statement, the Deputy First Minister attending the Covid-19 Committee every two weeks, I don't think that there's much more we can do. I have to ask if Mr Kerr feels there's not time for scrutiny of the Government, it's not my fault that he's not good at the actual thing itself. He has to ensure that he gets his act together. I would just like to say that the Scottish Parliament has already had a full debate on this issue, and during that debate, the Parliament actually said that it would actually go forward with this. Let's look at this. The whole point is that ministers must review the regulations at least every three weeks to assess whether any requirement and the regulations are still necessary to protect against control or to price a public health response. Mr Adam. I am concerned that all colleagues in the chamber cannot hear your contribution. I would be grateful if we could hear Mr Adam. Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. In closing, I was just trying to say that, as soon as the ministers consider the requirements no longer to be necessary to this purpose, they must be revoked. The devolved position will be that the certification regulations are due to expire on 28 February 2022. Presiding Officer, in closing, all I can say is that our place here is to actually scrutinise to be part of a Government, to come up to solutions, not actually play pantomime season before it is Christmas. The question is that amendment 1328.1 be agreed. Are we all agreed? No. The Parliament is not agreed, therefore we will move to vote and there will be a short suspension to allow access to the digital voting system.