 Welcome to Toffy TV, we have been breaking down in the last few weeks our best teams but today we're going to look at our waste and it is going to be our waste Premier League 11, waste Everton Premier League 11. Now there's many factors in this, many factors. It's not just the waste 11 players we've ever seen because I honestly don't know if I can remember the waste 11 players just simply because no because what's the lot of football over the last few years being a lot of poor players come through Everton you can't either hasn't but these players all stand out for a reason for me, for various reasons. Now there's no hard and fast rules on this on how many games they've played because let's be honest some of them have played very few games because of how bad they are or because of other circumstances so so let's do it. Let's start obviously with the goalkeeper. I'm going traditional 4-4-2. Yeah I think I have 4-4-2. Right let's get into it, let's get into the goalkeeper then. Let's go for it. Okay ready for the reveal. Who's it going to be? Okay tension building. Three, two, one. Oh Baz has gone for Richard Wright, I have gone for Paul, Gerard. Okay go on, tell me about what you're writing. There's like you've just said there, the caveat of this thing is that it isn't the waste players you've ever pulled on Everton's year. Yeah that's true. It isn't, that's not how we've done it. They're in the waste 11 for a number of reasons which we will explain. The waste goal we have seen for Everton in the Premier League era was Espinbarton. We played at Tottenham and was shocked in the eye. The biggest issue we had, one of the biggest issues we had was his trackies, his crotch was barn by his knees, he kept having to pull them up. He'd been to Duns for them. He'd literally, I don't know where he'd been for them but he had a nightmare and he'd singlanded, he cost us the game against his old club. So that was the waste goalkeeping performance I've seen. The reason I picked Richard Wright is because he came with so much promise. We bought him from Arsenal. He was this goalkeeper that was going to become England's number one. Arsenal wanted to keep him when they wanted to go and it was like we felt like we got a big coup with them getting him. He was like, got Richard Wright, Moise has come in, he's got a young up and coming goalkeeper. And his debut kind of fitted in with his Everton career. Winning 2-1 against Tottenham, Les Ferdinand with a back pass and he let it roll under him and give Spades a draw. But then the week later he goes to Sunderland and makes one of the greatest penalty saves I've ever seen. But in general, this is a fella that fell out of a loft, got injured training on a bit of the pitch that said don't train here. Didn't he actually stand on the sign? He's been on the sign that said don't be on the pitch. And then went out the couplers, that was the replay against Chelsea, he couldn't play so he didn't turn and had to play. And there was just too many occasions where he let things in, he should never have let in. Resulting in the fact that we went and then got Nigel Martin who was coming to the end of his career and ended up taking over him and was actually one of Evans' best Premier League goalies. That's why I write him for me, a goalkeeper full of promise, high hopes, but paid a lot of money for him at the time and he was poor more than he was good for Evans. He was very, very poor. I remember his debut well. I mean he was the first person of Munch when I'm both because he said you know I wanted to build it from the back. And I remember at the time it was a big career as well, gone after the England goalkeeper, gone to Arsenal and had a great time, come to Walsborough. Mwys made his mind up pretty quick on him, which was good as well. Mwys was good at that. I've gone for Paul Shirar because a bit of everything in this was at Evans for eight years. He played 90 times. He played 90 times for Evans. 90 times. And he was terrible. Like big standout was the one he dropped against Man United and took Cantona, backpokes, goes to catch it, drops it and Cantona just gets to tapping. That was when it was 1-0 and we were going after them. But even the first goal he'd come out of us but he made it for the first goal as well if you remember. Nill nill he'd come slid out of his box and dropped the ball and they scored. But like there was lots of them there. And then obviously going up to Middlesbray for that cup game. There was a back pass from Pistoni I think and he just completely got it wrong and they ended up getting a goal. You've just said that you're right on all the points. But eight years, eight years this was a player who was brought in. He was supposed to come in when he was young, have a couple of years under sort of Neville South Wales tutelage and then go on and be this great goalkeeper and he didn't. He was horrendous. I don't even know if he had. He was one of those goalkeepers you could ever see. He made some amazing saves. I don't remember him doing anything good. He bought some on promise of what he'd done at Oldham and he was just, I don't know. But you know Adam at Oldham didn't he? And he was very good at Oldham to be fair. He was a young one up and coming goalkeeper and you know obviously like them. You're right South Wales coming to the end. We've been clifford finched off with Nadia Martin and Mark Swater. We get Gerard in and I always thought he was a bit such a riat to wear new braces early on when he was young. No, but as a young goalkeeper. But he was in goal for the McAllister free kick wasn't he? He was. And I'd never forgive him after that because it was embarrassing to have seen it. And the worst thing about Gerard was in that same game he'd made an unbelievable save from Sam Ipia. I think when it was two, one or two together he pushed it over. And then a bit like Richard Wright he then would go and throw one in and that goal from McAllister was embarrassing. But yeah he had games when he was okay but he was never someone you felt confident with. Was he in goal? Mason. He fell over and fell. Mason Wally went in the high and he was laying on the floor. And I don't know how. It was like 40 yards. He ran and fell. The last minute of the game. It was the injury track. Nill nill it was. Getting a draw. It wasn't great but it's better than the defeat. And so it was too many of them. And Steve Simonson coming and took his place. Them two were in and out and he was another one. So there's three goalkeepers we just reeled off in the 90s. Sorry. 90s, early 2000s. All that big promise. Simonson was another one he coming from Tramia. He don't know right Simonson but he had this moment then and you were never confident with him. You were never confident with Gerard. But eight years incredible that he was there. 96 to 2004. He went on low and low the times but that's not the point. He played 90 games though. 90 games of football. Like. That tells you everything you need to know about that whole time before Moise coming. We had no one of. I mean don't forget Thomas Mayer coming didn't he. And Mayer took it. Mayer took him. But then made his own. But then he fell off a cliff didn't he. And threw two in against Willar of Roman and FA Cup quarterfinal and we should have beat you know. So we had our issue. And that was the issue after Neville Saltwell on the carried on until Nigel Martin really. That every keeper we had could have a couple of. Well Mayer had had a good spell but then it went. I mean saying a good spell it was about a year and then he just fell off a cliff. Gerard was never good enough. Simonson was really never good enough. And they were the issues that we had with it until he got Nigel Martin. Well of course they were all coming off the back of Southall as well. We said no. But as you're writing Nigel Martin. That's right. It's right for me. He was coming off the back of Gerard Simonson. He should have been much better than he was. And so that's why I went for him. There you go. Good start. It tells you everything you need to know. Right back. Let's have a look right back. I'm trying to remember who I've actually put in the team. Yeah. I've actually got them. Okay. But okay. All right. Three, two, one. Mark Ottaker. We've both gone for Mark Ottaker. Played 17 games for Evans called one goal. Got him from Newcastle. The goal. I'll be honest. This is just one of those ones where it's not a case. I haven't got a big story to reel off. I just thought he was crap. I just thought he was really, really crap. He was a Swiss international. He was obviously already being at Newcastle. And we'd had a bit of a dodgy time. It was right backs. And he'd come in at a time where actually, if we'd bought a decent right back, and I then came off the back of my Jackson and Barat Barat. Now if he'd come in, and if we'd gone out and actually bought a decent right back. Joe bought them, didn't he? Yeah. So we'd gone out and bought a decent right back at that time. We were building, you know, I've seen a video of the day where we won three, you know, and Andre scores and Daniel Amacati scores and Duncan's playing. If we've got like a decent right back, and that's what was, I don't know whether that was just down to money towards the end where Joe wasn't getting the money to go out and buy these players, but it mark hot again. Like that was a good team, and he put mark hot again, didn't he? What was really weird was, we'd had Matt Jackson when Joe was coming, and he was doing okay. We had Matt in a while ago, and he was doing alright. We won the FA Cup. We bought a El Barat in that year because he wanted a good defence. Matt Jackson was in attack and fall back. He wanted El Barat for whatever reason. He was more defensive. El Barat was a better centre back, but we played him a right back and destroyed him, really, because I think if he played centre back, he'd have been, I think, ever thrown. He would have talked to him a lot more because he just wasn't very good on the ball. Barat, but he was a great man for man. One v one, he was excellent. So we had Jackson who was quite good. We had Barat who was a decent defender but couldn't cross the halfway line. John O'Connor played some games in that style. But he had a really good spell. I thought he'd got an injury. That curtailed him. And Mark Ottegur was this attack and fall back from Newcastle. So I suppose on Pife, Joe was looking and thinking, I've got a good defensive fall back. I want someone better than Matt Jackson for whatever reason. And this Ottegur fit the bill. But he'd come in and he was just awful. He didn't settle. He'd done alright in Newcastle, I think. He'd come in, he just didn't settle at Everton. He was poor at 17 games, says it all. And he just left to go back to Switzerland. Yeah, he just went Everton. Just got shut him because he wasn't very good. I mean, you know, I looked and Tony Thomas was nearly in mind because he was just wasn't good enough at this level. He was good for Tramir at that level. Great crosser at the ball, but just wasn't fit. Like Paul Holmes. A bit like Paul Holmes. I think Paul Holmes was better. But Paul Holmes crosser was amazing. Yeah, it was. So, you know, people are looking and going, we've had ways like back then. I was saying he was part of it because we went out and bought him for a decent amount of money from a club. He was an international. He'd come in and was dreadful. So that's why he's in that. That's why I picked him. I imagine him with some like creator scouting at the time. Maybe in Europe we could have found someone much better. For about a third of the place again. So I don't know whether it was just late. I think, to be honest, I think that sort of summed up Joe's reign at everything was that. The sign is that worked, worked, but everyone he bought was like quite established one way or another wherever they were. There was no real. Like he went out and bought both, he went out and bought other players and they were like maybe the best player that other team had, but when they came to everything they were just terrible. There was no like no creative thinking in some of the... Joe was brilliant at what he did. He was a brilliant football man. Man manager. And a brilliant manager of... He was a brilliant manager. What he'd done with Oldham was incredible. And what he'd done with Everton was incredible, really when he'd come in. And he had us to a point where, you know, we had a season from November that resulted in us winning an FA Cup and showing almost top three, top four form from when Joe came in. The following season we were brilliant. We should have finished in Gioro. A couple of things cost us that at the end of that season. The following season we get to Christmas, beat Dabi and people are going. And people are going. And beat Dabi. You know, we lose Joe Parkinson over Christmas and we had a couple of injuries. He fell out with the echo. And then they went after him and filmed with Nutty at the time and after Joe. He banned the echo and that was the... All the pressure was negative. And then he... We said it many times on me. He went into a meeting to try and tore André Flow and Clawsectavag and ended up designer. And yet we'd already agreed. Joe had already bought Slavin Billet. That was already done. So that was another establishment. Nick Barambi established. André Cinchels has established. There was no... Joe Parkinson, he gave his chance to, but Joe Parkinson was bought by Mike Walker or by Edwin at the time. Excuse me. Scouten at the time. So hot again. It was probably just a lazy fit. Probably an attack on right back plays in the Premier League. I think that probably came from being at Oldham and having a wheel or deal for all. The left over established players. And that's where that come from. There was no... We never as a club kicked on. And the main thing about that was we did buy really good players. That's not the issue. The issue was in terms of how we did the Scouten. And that right back spot at the time should have been filled by someone really, really good. And it was almost like an afterthought. And yet it was those kind of sirens which were the downfall of them, like you just said. When we started to lose good players where there'd be Joe Parkinson, there was no one to fill in. Or the player we looked at to look at something. Or the players we started to look at to replace them were just like, we didn't know any of the levels. So anyway, let's move on to left back. Three, two, one. I have gone for Cucko Martina. Baz has gone for David Burroughs. I haven't chew on them. He played most of his games at Everton. At left back, there's no chew on it. I've got to say he's literally up there at the worst I've ever seen. Go on, tell us about David Burroughs. I've gone for David Burroughs because I play for Liverpool. Now realistically, we swapped Tony Cotty for this fella. And in a move that to me made zero cent. Absolutely zero cent. Cotty don't get me wrong. He wasn't only Cotty's biggest fan by any stretch of the imagination, but he was allowed to score goals. He'd get on the end of things, albeit he was getting older, but then he went away and still scored goals for a few years. But we got, if we would have been getting a young, exciting fullback or a very, very good fullback then out of touch it. But we got someone who'd come in and didn't make any impact at all. He didn't want to be at Everton. He didn't want to be at Everton. But he'd come to Everton because he'd been shuo and out of West Ham for Cotty. They wanted him on. They wanted Cotty and we just went on. And he'd come in. And the biggest memory I've got of him was he set Duncan's goal up for the first goal after he'd signed permanently against Chef Weatherham across the Grey Cross in Duncan. Other than that, I just remember him being grim with no heart really about him. And that's me override the memory of him. And listen, he could sit here and tell us different and go, he had just didn't settle the team wasn't very good or this or that or the other. But the reality was the team was very good when he came in. He just wasn't very good. And that was the, yeah I mean he wasn't very good. The team was alright, it went alright. It should have gone better. We got him out of the door. We got him in and to me, he was just he was poor. To be honest I didn't even think my man, he's a break back, but he was he is dreadful. But I just didn't care did he? No. And obviously Joe coming in, Joe wanted on the inchgryff in there for the set pieces and obviously Gary Abbott went out there as well. No he didn't care, he had no heart. He didn't want to be at Everton. He was just a genie man player, got a chance to come back up to Maisie's side and took it. He was crap, absolutely crap. People wouldn't even know he played for Everton. That's how bad he was. There was no like a feeling. He wasn't even like a bad guy. Just no legacy for him. He was terrible. Most Evertoners wouldn't even know where he was. He was coming up in the quiz we did last couple weeks ago and he was the first player to play in the Premier League for both of Everton. People were just like, what? Did he? Wasn't that Gary Abbott? No, it was him. No one knew. Listen, Cucko Martina. Let's be tingled about. Some players are right. Some players are on this list. Like David Burroughs. He didn't care. Cucko Martina signed for Everton and was given a ridiculous contract by the manager. But I don't believe this lad has never not tried for Everton. I say that he's one of the worst I've ever seen. But he's not. I've never looked at him and thought that he's one of the worst. Exactly. He went to Lefbach and it was an emergency. And some games he was okay. But as a footballer oh my god he's terrible. Like how many times when he played at Lefbach did we have to watch him and try and shift it on to his right foot. Couldn't even kick it down the line with his left foot. He'd have been better just playing at Lefbach all the time because you probably would have got someone like Seamus Coleman at the time. One of our right backs probably could have done better at Lefbach. Seamus of football wise but you know what? Defensively. The worst thing I can maybe this lad should be on the list for not getting into the team is Luke Garbert. Cos Luke Garbert could not get this lad out of Lefbach. Now that just tells you everything. I don't know what that says about Luke Garbert. But Luke Garbert was at the club and he hadn't been registered for the first half of the season when he should have when Baynes went out injured, we had something had no one. Martina had to come in and then obviously I think he got registered for the second half of the Premier League season but we were all to Europe. Garbert could have played in games in Europe if he had been registered but he hadn't. So I don't know what that says about Luke Garbert but Martina was just woeful, just woeful as a footballer and now he's got three years and how at this point he's still at Everton Football Club and he's absolutely crazy cos obviously he hasn't kicked the ball for and he's been on the bench but he hasn't kicked the ball for two years and no one else wants him. We went on to went to PSV and it was a firenode, wasn't it? A firenode on loan looked like that could happen but even then basically I haven't my throat. Can I have him? Even they didn't want him. So I'm not saying anything about his attitude or anything, he's just a terrible footballer. Sometimes some players and you'll see this some players are a massive indictment of a manager and I think it says a lot about Cuman that he went looking for him gave him three years when he was on a free transfer just like you didn't have to do that. Listen throw your own conclusions out of that but there you go. Right, let's move on to centre back. Three, two, one. I've gone for Al-Kharaz Baz has gone for Ashley Williams. Go on, tell me about Ashley Williams. Ashley Williams, the... When we got him. I was made up we got him to be honest. I thought at last we've got a leader. Every time he played against Everton for Swansea he was brilliant. You know, he'd thrown himself on the way of everything he'd been unbelievable for Wales in the Euros. It was just great, we got him. Come in, done all right, done well. Early on, done really well, early on. Organised us. But then as time went on I've never seen a player just not be asked. I could talk about burrows before. But this fella just looked like he couldn't be bothered. He looked like someone who decided to just look after himself. Whenever a goal was scored pulling a sheath over his head and all of that resultant in vainly away. Which ended up being the last game he ever played for Everton. Rightly so. Sam Alladais who people might like hate whatever knew what he'd done that day the fella. He couldn't be asked anymore and he got himself sent off. He'd conceded a goal because he couldn't be asked. He'd let Chris Wood run past them while I do can't dig and run. When Ashley Barnes, another one set off now, he might get there next Tuesday just how sprinted him to score goals. And I just couldn't have his attitude. Saltampton away, the scratch. Just absolutely woeful in the end. And he was on a hell of a lot of money. Is he the worst defender I've seen play for Everton? Is he? No way. He was a very good defender but he'd come in for a decent amount of money on the wage. And really it was there for him to have the Everton captaincy to come in and go right, I'm going to be the organiser. I've got the experience. This is what we do. I'm going to be the one who stands up and be counted. And he didn't. He just went the other way and I can't accept that. I can't accept players coming in. It's one of the reasons why Sigarton bugs me now. Sigarton's nowhere near that level. Sigarton I think tries all the time. He doesn't think he's enough. But when players are at a good level don't allow yourself to just slip into it body. Kind of like body language. I'm not arsed any more. And that's why Ashley Williams is in for me because I just think for what he was to where he ended up I can't. I think it's inexcusable really. Yeah, get weak listen. We got near 50 million for John Stones and we got up and paid 10 million for this guy. Everyone always thought it could get a couple of years out of this. It could be a solid defender for a couple of seasons. Maybe allow someone like Paul Gates to come through when they play Stones. And I think that was sensible thinking at the time. But you're right. I thought the first season he was all right. I thought he was okay. I thought he was a solid defender. The first six months I'd say he was excellent. Put his body on the line. But as you said when the goal got tough he just didn't care. He just didn't care. He just didn't care. He just didn't care. That's the biggest issue you can have with a player as a fan. It's a problem I've had with Morgan Snardin after what I've seen at Lyon. Something very similar. The club obviously felt like that was a one-off. But with Ashley Williams Sam decided that was the end of his. That was February. He chased him. You're done that. Didn't play again. And why didn't he play again? You know, your manager will allow players to do that. Bollock them fine them. But where can I get your head down? Run your bollocks off and training and all that. If manager sees you in training every day and you don't get back in that side then there's only one reason why you're not back in that side for me and that is because your body language is coming across in training as well. Everton, we end up giving them a way to stoke, take them and keep them. We can have them. We don't want them back. But I believe he's gone to Bristol City and been very good. So maybe just at that level. That's the other thing as well of course. He's gone down a league and there is a gulf so it is easier to express yourself at that level. Like you say, players can struggle because they're not good enough but give everything and try the best all the time and you have to look and go. That's why, like you said about Martin before, technically one of the worst players I've ever seen play for Everton but I couldn't sit here and go never care about that, never tried because he did, he just wasn't very good at it but actually Williams is better than what he showed for Everton. You know, Michael Keane people slate Michael Keane at times and say this and that about him but I never get the impression Michael Keane doesn't care about playing for Everton he wants to be good. No, he's just that. His confidence visibly goes but actually Williams for me went hard and he should have been the one that was dragging people by the throat and going get your game together. You didn't, how many games did we get bounced by fours and fives and he'd just go when the second one went in and four back with his head on the third and you were like, oh my god you are a fella that has been to a European Championship semi-final recently with your team if the fella who was injured he was telling you to go off and you didn't you strapped it up and carried on and now Al Menor running past you and you're putting your shades over your head no, not for me. Wales in golf first obviously I've gone for Alcharras because quite simply he was not only was he awful but again he was the on-pitch symbol of the manager like and remember when we signed it was just like well he's an emergency centre back, whatever and then when you watched him play and he had a couple of brilliant games when he looked like a footballer the most sad barbie when he played when we got B4 on him he was horrific he should never have played that night Johnstone should have played and Tony would have played he was horrific it looks like he plays in his slippers yeah he does play in his slippers that's why he can't get across the grass because that's how slow he is but the one that always stands out for me was two games we played Newcastle on the satay and he got Man of the Match he got Man of the Match beat them 3-0 he didn't have to do anything and somehow he got Man of the Match because I think he did play well we were playing Newcastle we beat them 3-0 and he's getting Man of the Match this is my challenge then Thursday night we're going away to Kiev we've got a slim lead but we've got a lead we've got Johnstone's back who was in magnificent form at the time and the manager just decides to continue playing because he's had one good game against a terrible Newcastle and he was horrendous he was worse than horrendous and I remember at that time every man on his dog was like he's got to go off that's how bad he was we were still in the game we were still in the game we were in the tie just bring Johnstone's on and I think just get a goal because we could easily get a goal against him and just defend properly and he didn't and he left them on and it was the biggest representation of your manager on the pitch and that's what Alcaraz was he was a representation of Man of the Match he was just like take chances might do that and I couldn't bear him and I couldn't bear the manager at that point for allowing that to happen on the pitch and off the pitch was just to me was just absolutely absolutely shocking this just lazy attitude of all still take chances and sadly that then got passed on to Johnstone's this was almost like Alcaraz was like the first sort of warning of what Johnstone's is going to be was just take chances because the manager allows me to take chances this was Johnstone's he was faster and had a little bit more technique and he can get away with them not all of them but some of them but he was awful the year before he'd had a nightmare at Southampton the end of the season we got beat 2-0 he added the first one into his net after 30 seconds didn't he and Colman added the second one into his net it was incredible but there was some warning signs then that he wasn't quick enough he was a good footballer but there's no point being a good footballer if you can't run and that keyf game you're right just summed up the better partners we had a chance of you've got players like Ross Barclay and Romelu Lukaku and you're in the last 82 with them you've got a chance of winning and each single hander he went to keyf he pissed about with the team and put Christian Atrewy and played Alcaraz and we get bombed rightly so and we were done for of it and he had to take full responsibility for that because he was shocking just a terrible footballer in terms of ugh let's move on right the other centre back this one should be interesting it's dead interesting ready 3, 2, 1 Baz has gone for a pair of colds I've gone for mangalah right the reason I've gone for mangalah is a little bit like some of the other ones is that I think he only played one game for everything but everything I learnt everything I needed to know in that one game so he came in from Man City and I thought it was an absolutely terrible bit of business from the minute go it was a lot well it's only on loan but if anyone had watched them at Man City he was absolutely awful sometimes you bring a player in and you're just like I'll bring them in on loan we'll see what happens you might have had the bad rubber the green at the last club he was absolutely awful and we brought him in we played him in that Arsenal game and we played him in this three man back he pulled me three centre backs we ended up being five and yet we were four nildan after 20 minutes like it was an absolute mess and he didn't know whether he was coming or going and the best thing he actually ever did for everyone was getting injured because he was so bad and again he illustrated like I don't know something about the aladise thing I don't know it was just he was so so bad that we would go and look to bring a player in who was so so bad he was a defender at a cost city 30 of a million quid and I played a lot of games for them and it was alright at times and we got him on loan on a free because we needed someone who could run in the back line and he could run he was against Arsenal and he was terrible he can't get away even though he was all terrible and then palace the week later he started off alright got injured off a corner first 25 minutes he was fine no problems with him and he went up for a corner and done his name that was the last we saw of him but yeah I remember you saying at the time when we got him you weren't impressed that we got him but sometimes you get someone in on loan because you think they can cover I think the aladise mistake with him was they hadn't been playing five at the back and it was his debut and he the whole thing was ridiculous that day because he picked a bizarre team instead of just playing lad 2 if you're talking about not wanting to get a chasing then just play lad 2 who haven't been playing then play like Clashen and Vlassage and people like that who were around and sand don't play 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 and just say like you go out and run your bollocks off for us let's see what you've got and this team to be Crystal Palace next Saturday which was essentially what he said after the game was like yeah we were terrible but it doesn't matter it doesn't matter then play all the lads who want to play play the lads who were chomping at the bit Adam Ola Luchman who I think was still there at the time he hadn't gone play the likes of them and see how they get on if they get B5 one year go we had a few injuries and we've give lad to go and Mangala was throw him into a back read and he never played in it was bizarre it illustrates a moment for me again that thing of like the way people turned on on all the dice and just said you haven't got a clue you want to take the credit for all for all the positive stuff but don't want to take anything about the negative stuff and will he distance himself from that the worst thing about that game was each set in a press conference something like yeah we're going to go ar Arsenal cos they're tired cos they play this and they won't fancy that when P5 had a back and strap back and it was like you've said something yesterday and you've done the opposite today now I understand why you put him in it's just I also do think he's a terrible footballer by the way I also do think he's I think Evan had just looked at him on loan for peace but we know what would have happened but at the time putting him next to Ashley Williams in a defence then there you go but I went for Kralzru cos he was literally he was terrible you know and I'm almost certain I've got no factual stuff about this but I'm almost certain that Moise wanted Simon Kear and Evan thought he wanted to pay Kralzru because they were the partners he'd done easy and we'd scout full grab at him yeah, what Madrid did they thought he was the same player but because I remember I was working with Evan at the time and he played in the friendly against the easy and Simon gave a score we beat him 1-0 before the season started and Kralzru played Moise was like he can't handle and I remember I was doing the tickets for the players and they were like cos obviously you're a fan and we've got a £5 million centre back at that time 5 million was a lot of money what's this fella like and people were telling me he's not very good because Moise really Moise didn't make that many mistakes no not in the same position but I remember I remember we signed him and then he never played games and then there was question marks then why wasn't he playing games and I remember hearing at the time myself was no one had actually physically gone to watch this player it was all done on video and maybe that's where the confusion come from is that no one had gone and scouted them and Moise had asked and maybe this is why Moise this was about 3 years into Moise and this is why after that Moise give Moise more power, more control cos he started demanding cos if you make a mistake that big you're going to stop trusting people well he decided early on and early on was like a couple of weeks he wasn't going to play he wasn't good enough but he tried to coach him he couldn't cope with the physical side he was like ok on the ball good touch, good pass but wasn't quick wasn't particularly quick and just couldn't get the physicality out of himself and that timing was a dominant centre back and went on to have a great career so he would have been and I'm almost certain that he was the one we wanted cos no Moise wanted him later on and his everything just couldn't quite get him but we could have got him at the time because he was up against Aston Villa on Boxing Day and he was on Barysad and then his last game was a FA Cup replay against Millwall around we played and we beat them 1-0 and then he was sold the next day Moise gave him a game, that night cos he probably thought he could play against these champions a club team he scored and we beat them 1-0 around and he actually played quite well that night cos he was up against Lads he was quick and strong and he was sold the next day so he's in there because a lot of money brought him a promise this fella's coming dominant centre back and was absolutely shambos multiple factors let's move to Rightman Field this should be interesting 3, 2, 1 Peter Dane I've gone for Andy van der Maide Andy van der Maide was at the club for 4 years he played 20 games his most biggest contribution was the cross to Van Gosland to win the Derby in 0-9 the FA Cup he had a better contribution than that bearing him city away on his debut usually he got it in there on our half of the box our box dribbled through Slifter and Simon we beat them 1-0 he also he did provide a couple of set of peace goals and stuff unbelievable talent and that's why he's in the team because I remember being excited I was watching like early youtube videos of watching a player got into my land unbelievable if you watch the Ajax videos unbelievable if you watch the into my land videos unbelievable and I remember watching videos I remember he saw Scotland they beat Scotland 7-0 Holland he set about 6 of them talent wise unbelievable unbelievable footballer but clearly had issues injury wise clearly had injury issues off the pitch and I remember when he played Scotland the interview him after the game and he shone a light on him and he collapsed he collapsed because he said he was so dehydrated when he shone the TV light on him he collapsed on TV and people started thinking them what to go on so obviously off the pitch he wasn't looking after himself people used to hear people talk about them in training things you can do in training left foot, right foot, every shot top corner billions he come in he got injured we were all waiting for him to come back and then he got injured again he kept on just picking up these injuries he wasn't a moist type player clearly because he was the glazer out on the pitch and you can afford that with some players but not if they're not playing all the time and he started getting all the rumours about him off the pitch he had his dog robbed, his car robbed then he had a daughter she was in Alderae she was in Alderae she was born with stuff outside the body that should be inside the body clearly and he was like I'm not going anyway he said like we're training and Alderae is there and this is like the best hospital going he said I'm not going anyway and you can understand that that's the human side of things it's just he's clearly not the worst ever player but unfortunately circumstances he was built up he could have been such an amazing player big money, big raises and again those were nos where after we qualified for the champions league so we were trying to grab everything we could and he'd obviously been offered by an agent and he probably thought I'll be there going to the champions league and after he left those I don't think he played another game again he went to PSV, never played went to another team, never played and then retired so after he left into Milan he played like 20 more games over like 7 years and retired when he was probably like early 30s so half of his football career has just been gone and I'm sure he'll I'm sure he said since put it down to certain factors but just to waste the talent and that's the most that's more frustrating than having to buy and crap but it's much better at the time he was a big name he was full of talent ability, we were getting a match winner because that's what we needed going into the champion we thought we were going into the champions league we were a team that was always up near the top anyway in terms of five and six top five, top six and he could have been a difference maker and we could have kept him fit and on the straight narrow almost I think if you would have put it this way we got the likes of Miquel Artheta who came in who was silky skills and nice on the ball but put his worked his bollocks off as well to be fair to and he forced his way so you had all the skill and the talent and then you had Moise's work ethic on top of it, made Artheta the player he was Artheta would have come in he would have carried on being someone who just stroked the ball about and didn't do much and we had Pena, he was another one full of ability, wanted to get his hands dirty and that elevated Pena as a player if we could have got Vanda Meade getting his hands dirty and staying fit with the talent he had, he'd have been incredible in fact he probably wouldn't have been there ever in two years because someone else would have took him but we got him for the reason because obviously he wasn't doing he was asking about it on my land as well you know top clubs don't sell great players so yeah all the talent in the world and just come performing that's so frustrating so Peter Dain for me is in mind just because he's absolutely terrible those people just won't even remember he was no but you know what he had an ars like Nicky my ars something like in the Al Anaconda video Peter Dain the biggest ars ever and he was a nut, he'd come in and was like full of promise this fella we got him from Dennis young Dain his winger he's not only this he's that he was absolutely crap he really was he was little he didn't have any kind of he wasn't quick he wasn't a great dribble and he remember going to Chelsea it was like he'd won a competition to be on the pitch honestly he was embarrassing it was that area and it was like I just remember thinking how? and in the stand I am miles better than you and you're playing for my club and I've come to watch my club in London and you're in the team and you are crap and he was terrible he was absolutely diabolical he was just terrible because he was just dreadful he should never have wore ars yet in a Premier League but he did I'll be honest I barely remember anything about him the name I know and I can picture him but I just can't remember him playing because he was so bad and he was obviously... and it was out of time when if you were even half decent you'd have been boss for us fans would have loved you but he wasn't he was just crap that's how bad he was to talk about him I can't remember anything about him he don't need to be that bad okay let's me field okay three come on Baz I was just double checking it three, two, one right I've gone for Aidan McGeady Baz has gone for Stephen Hughes go on Stephen Hughes Stephen Hughes again both from Arsenal decent amount of money looked very good at Arsenal, lovely left foot great position by that three to be fair it was three position well class it really was come in this young midfield player loads of talent left foot like a wand he's gonna do this, he's gonna do that he was just poor he was poor he's just totally ineffective he looks slow which he hadn't looked at Arsenal he didn't influence he's just got one great goal he's been waffered for so he smashed it into the roof of the net where he's left foot didn't he score at Wafford as well he might have I think he only had one ever and it was a cracker yeah at Wafford he's got he's got the only two goals for us both Wafford but in that Wafford gave Mark Hughes because he was an awful as well but yeah he's another one full of promise and done nothing with it and he kept waiting for him to ignite it was like this player who's seen do well at Arsenal he's gonna like relax and settle into us and be good for us and he didn't do any and he reminded me a bit of Michael Keane you could physically you could tell sitting in the stand that his confidence was no way some players like you go you could physically see with him just looking with your eyes you could see him on a ball he'd give the ball and hide him on a bat didn't he come in that summer when we got like Niachaw and Graverson and Watson and Pistone and Gaza I think it might have been a little bit earlier than that because I want to wonk it with Da Vinach if he played it and he was just yeah he just wasn't very good for us and it was a pity because he was highly rated when we signed him there was a big thing about him and he'd come in and just typically 11 in the 90s let us down and I've gone from a geedy because again you know brought in from Russia with no love and I remember when we got him we got him in the in the January didn't we and six months left on his contract got him for it after he's in price and he came in and he was one of those way there was loads of promise seeing clips of him playing for Celtic and for Ireland and again the old YouTube Russia and loads of tricks but he got him in and he just just absolutely did nothing you know he I remember being the first game of his first season he was way at Leicester and he looked okay I think he scored a great goal in that as well and he was like he could be really good player but he was one of those players that he could tell just wasn't fully trying just wasn't fully for me I never thought you're putting everything into this that you're holding something back and I think maybe that's something that will be summed up over his entire career is that he always looks like he's holding something funny enough just what's a Sunday documentary and obviously he is like the most important player at that level Cleese back playing the league but that almost feels like to him that's great I'm suddenly the most important player and maybe he was the most important player when he was at Celtic but when it's like he was challenged that evidently he could never get himself up to that level pace wise never had enough pace he reminded me a little bit of like McFadden in that in that kind of thing not like quick as in not at number though he was quite bright and he went McGeeley he come in and we were a good side it was Martin as his first season we were doing very well and he he come in and he made good contributions he set a few goals and then he remember he played against Palace at home when we lost he went on a brilliant run early on he cut inside and bent into the inside of the post and come out and if that had gone in we'd have probably won the game we'd have probably finished in the top four which meant either being a bigger part of it and we didn't be lost again 3-2 and he was in and out and then the second season you're righty but I think what he would say and I've heard him say this is that when he get that head of steam Martin is just light to him well maybe that's so and you know what I've ever seen forever I think you're right with the try his body language sometimes some players are just like that you look at them and go you're just not giving me everything and he might have been that Celtic he was brilliant but there was always a thing with the Celtic he was like he could do more I kind of had it with Le Carchib even though Ron was grateful I always thought he's got have you really just brought a Le Carchib into this competition? I'm saying with these players when you look at them they can hit a level and you know they've got more yeah yeah and with Ron I knew he had more and when he demonstrated the more he was truly well you couldn't touch him and then he'd fall back into just doing enough which was still brilliant cos he'd scored all that McGeady's not at that level but McGeady was like you've right there was another gear you could tell and then that frustrated him but then maybe from his point of view you've got a manager going you're playing next week no and I get that he said he'd go in and come out and think he said he'd like some wizard he did say that it just annoyed me maybe it's just because it's like a reason that I've been far worse players it just annoys me when you get someone and you think they're going to be a go player cos you look at them and think you've got everything and you just feel like they're not do you know what annoyed me with him he'd have the ability to go 1v1 which he'd do he'd beat the fella and you'd think just cross it and the odd time he did it we scored goals from it and you were like what a ball I remember he set the winner off for Coleman and he got to the line done a little step over put it in and we got a few goals like that where he dropped the shoulder and you'd look and go just do that see that thing you've just done do that every time and he wouldn't I think he probably if you go he doesn't opt a thing for this but the amount of crosses blocked by defenders because he took too many touches he'd probably beat one up there and he just annoyed me he was very Peter Beagle like McGeady in that but I think he'd go buy someone and then he would I think he's got a lot more talent than a lot of players a bit ball at the feet some of the tricks he's got his own trick it's brilliant he's done it for us in a couple of games but he did it for Aaron to remember in a big game and scored on when we had him he rolled it and he'd like flix it with the outside his foot and that bends it just annoying that he plays like that just a frustrating play let's move into Sentiment Field let's move it there this will be interesting three, two, one Neaco Alex Neaco but with a lot of promise someone might don't think we knew a lot about him when we bought him wasn't that kind of time got a work permit in 25 minutes work permit approval cos he was that good I think he was Garnay in wasn't he there was a lot of talk about him bringing him in we had sort of like what was going to be the archetype Sentiment Fielder the long stride athletic Sentiment Fielder he wanted them funny enough but he simply just didn't try he simply did not try he started off well he come in and little flashes of him but he just did not try and obviously he come with the fan run on the picture arsenal so he'll swap shades I'll try harder than you that almost gave him the excuse he needed to try and get away from everything he came back after we basically didn't have anyone else and there was this whole redemption thing brought him back smashed the bar didn't he first minute against Chelsea had that half decent game but never really got never really got going fans had made the mind up they could maybe still get some money off him and the irony is you went on loan to two clubs one of them was Monaco and the other one was Paris Saint-Germain and when you think about that now like Paris Saint-Germain and where they are just ticks all the box add everything you'd want when you buy in a midfiel player six foot two could get about the pitch remember him in Graveson in midfield it looked like a really good partnership remember we played Darby at home and this probably should have been this probably should have been the indicator but it's Davey who was that lead we got B2 Nill on the opening day in that dunk was suck and then we played obviously B3 Nill he was very good and then a pair of them were brilliant on strategy against Darby and we were winning soon and Graveson scored that goal and then off doing and it was like no case and right after Graveson scored we went on another brilliant run and the Arco had it and it didn't hit the post and come out and they got 3-0 and the pair of them were brilliant they were dominating and then they faded as the game and Darby ended up drawing 2-2 which was just a joke because the game was so onside and Darby didn't centre back at home to Ipswich and I never forget I just went to Florida and come back and got back in that much there's a theme here and got back in on the morning we had Ipswich at home and he was centre back and I went no sleep and we got B3 Nill at home Marcus Ew had scored 2 and the Arco was centre back and he didn't have a clue where he was so he didn't centre back and Smith was a negative defence I don't even understand what he's thinking because he took him out of the midfield where he'd been at the legs and put him into the back four and we got bounced anyway and then you could see his confidence and he remember going through Darby away on Boxing Day on New Year's Day and them two were centre of the park Graveson and the Arco and we got B1 Nill but Walter Smith subdom both at half time he's centre of the field part and he's taken off at half time and you feel like that doesn't say it all and then he was less and he was getting worse and worse resultant in the Arsenal thing when they got on the pitch and swaps you out of them because he should have been so much better he had the physique to do it I didn't know him as a person so I don't know what his mentality was like he should have been able to play in the league he was quick, he was strong and he was good on the ball and that time he demonstrated that ability and you looked him and that's what we bought but then too many times he was just like I can't be arsed with it I can't be arsed though his confidence was just obliterated and he didn't know what was going on but he was just a he was a dreadful force I just don't think he had the attitude to play for a club like us and I think that showed his career went nowhere after he left us got him from Lens didn't he it was one of those early ones where for us we had brought in a lot of foreign players and at the time it just never worked out and obviously maybe if that instance hadn't happened at the Arsenal that his career would have peated out and he'd just be forgotten about but because that picture was so iconic he'd come back he'd come back against Chelsea at home in that game the following season and we lost 1-0 I think Mewtwo scored for them and Jeff has missed an open goal at the end and Jeff has missed one right at the start of that game as well after 40 seconds I think but we had to smash the bar and that goes in you know it's what it was because it might have been people might have got behind because conference might have gone up but it didn't so right let's move on to the next one 3, 2, 1 that has gone for John Collins I've gone for Klaus Thompson Klaus Thompson was just crap he was just crap he came from Ipswitch he'd been alright for Ipswitch in a poor size but he was just crap and I think he had one season and again it was that idea of he'd come in he'd come in like a tiangio he'd just panicked didn't he was that when Joe Park got injured he'd come in so again he's we're buying plays like him we're buying plays like Mark Ottege we're replacing our Ars Deishan players or our good players with crap and again middle of the park Ipswitch have got a decent centre midfield a Dale Selton and he was just rubbish but he also just didn't have that he was like oh this isn't Ipswitch this is evident he just was completely offy I don't think I can say any more he was just awful really really really bad he's gone on going with Abbie as well but I remember might have been one of the last games he had for us we went up to Newcastle we were winning 1-0 and we got B4-1 in the end Deish got 4 and I bought the last half and he was just got torn apart and I'm almost setting just off the top when we had I don't think how I played them again after that and see me in that stupid one-to-one kit and it looked like he had a head like wheel-off because we can't come get that echo the barbers he was green let's move on John Collins he's such a footballer coming in a blaze of glory I loved him at Celtic he was brilliant he went to Monaco one of the first bossmans was me went to Monaco and he was brilliant and people were raving about him and after them I was thinking we are getting a fucking scored in the well cup scored in the well cup for Scotland and it was like have a bit of this, John Collins coming in this new air of silky footballer him and Olivier Dacole coming in and we were just going to be the dogs bollocks and he came in and I was right he was bollocks he just wasn't the dogs bollocks missed the penalty on his debut after 10 minutes against Villar and we ended up drawing the game and that season we didn't score a home goal until November November oh my god he scored a butter he scored a screamer a butter in a two two and he was technically a good footballer but he was a shite off one of the best games he ever played was left back against Bradford he went from left back down to right back and he was decent at left back he was decent in the midfield when it was such as in the court him on the left and bar and be that was probably one of our best midfields that we had at that time but he was a fella to talk about not being asked he surprised me so much cos he was Scottish and Scottish you think you know you want to give everything for the cause you know you've had Donald just knew he was playing for Scotland and giving everything and we've seen Duncan, I've seen so many great Scottish players and he great the heart of a lion and this fella that had none of it showboats he was just he was crap and for the money we paid on the promise he'd come in for he was dreadful and he couldn't wait to get out of Everton as well and he went off to Fulham and waxed Lyrichle about Fulham with John Toghanna and he was shite and he was made up and he was shite and then he's gone to be a pundit and he's a shite pundit as well and he ate Everton and I ate him so that's why he's in my again, pressure not a very good team you're the one supposed to lift it and technically Bob wasn't anywhere near John Collins' level technical as a footballer and heart is over him of course you would, millions of times again one of those players that to me is just in my head is just lost he's in the room of like you've just said just crap come in, big money looked like a great deal you get that excited and then you let down and there's more of them than these two teams and I think there are of crap players oh without a shadow crap players just play, it's not their fault you pick a team a waste footballer level team would be very different to these teams because we're not saying that we're not saying there'll be people listening and watching he was a great player, technically he was shite forever in the story technically he probably was but we're talking about why it's our waste 11 because of the circumstances it's such a good conversation let's move on to the forwards this will be interested interested interesting ok, face forward three, two, one breath angel, we've both gone there this book's the trend cos he genuinely was terrible this fella was terrible and what makes it waste was we had him on loan and decided to keep him he just wanted to give salt in there's some money in me why would you bring someone on loan from a team in the fourth division you know what he was really good in all our leagues he scored a lot of goals he scored a lot of goals we haven't watched him for two or three seasons he scored a lot of goals a bit like Bobby Jamore we watched Bobby Jamore for a couple of years and we decided not to take the punch on him and he went elsewhere and did well for Fulham and Westamon and we maybe could have done alright but breath angel was one who was that name after him looking at this lad he scored and we got him and ok, you can understand them getting them on loan, taking the punch and we need a striker coming on loan, see if he can help us out and he scored against Chelsea at home the only goal he scored we won 4-2 he done ok when we won a QPR just for being a nuisance of what he is but I'm sure he was blind in one eye as well and how I am honestly I didn't play right back then but I am I'm sure he's sighted in one eye but he just wasn't very good at all he was 6 for 4 but he was 6 for 4 with no physical presence he couldn't jump go back and watch him right if anyone ever watches breath angel think about when you watch Duncan everyone used to say he jumps but he's 9 foot when he jumps he could be 6 for 4 but when he jumps his feet are 3 foot off the ground he's 9 foot, that's why he's so good breath angel could not jump something I remember from the time he'd go for headers and lose them and be like how's he lost hands because the other defender is jumping he couldn't get off the floor he couldn't get off the floor he was woeful and I remember when he scored the goal against Chelsea for him it was pure relief of how he scored the penalty goal it was a yard out he was dreadful he really was he just wasn't a very good player for the physical attributes he had he just didn't know how to use them and in the Premier League at that time he should have been able to he was sick like I said he was a big lad he should have been knocking people out he was gently spoken softly spoken he was probably an absolutely lovely lad he probably didn't know what to do he would probably go for a tackle and pick you up and go you're ok didn't mean to catch you there which is sound because that's a nice person but in a business where it's cut you've got to have that needle you can do that at the end when the game's finished you can go listen not in the game you've got to be in people's fit because it's a battle out there and certainly more so in that day I just don't understand that you can take someone on loan and look at them every day in training and decide that they're alright it was bizarre let's do the other one and let's just talk about a couple of it's a bit interesting three, two, one Mark Hughes, I've gone for John Spencer I went for John Spencer because I remember you know when you buy a player or you bring a player in I think we brought them on loan and they think we signed them but I think you only played three games we had them for a year and this will be similar to John Collins no most players you remember most players come to ever and you always say nice things he hated us when he left he just said awful things about us as a club and he had no right to he was crap he was absolutely crap when he'd been to Chelsea he was like this little bulldog terrier and he managed to get goals and he had this like angry thing about him but when he came to us it was just like he was always angry at us and he was crap he had like no reason he had no reason to to be that way and this is why he's in there and there will be others that won't be in there and I'm sure Mark Hughes is saying for you is that he must have been a decent footballer he played for Scotland he played for Chelsea he had a good successful career in MLS after that whether you use that but my revenue act just not in a bar again he'd been on loan but he clearly didn't want to be a revenue he didn't want to try for revenue he didn't want to do anything for revenue and that's why he's in the team cos he was a prick like while he was a prick the same was why you've got John Collins in like don't come to Evan and don't moan at us cos you can't give everything to Evan your little prick like I couldn't stand him like you go out there you put a shirt on for Evan and I expect you to have a little go and all he did was have a little cos that's all he was a little prick so he was garbage you John Spencer, your little prick do you call? I wish you'd have told me what you really felt about him he was garbage again another one we played against us on being lively and you'd seen him score goals you'd seen goals and score goals you'd get him and think we'll do us a job here we've got big psyches he's a good little enlarge he didn't give a toss he was just genuinely crap and the only thing I can remember him doing was having a shot at it Michael Maddard's shoulder and went in against Billy and Maddard ran off like he'd scored a 40-yard volley and was made up he dropped the score off and what a man see I've got much more fond memories we've said this before if Michael Maddard would have scored in the derby he'd be an evident legend he'd be like Kevin Campbell he'd be like Kevin Campbell that one miss people would be like Michael Maddard he was another player who went to Paris I'm putting that on other people he was crapping and he wasn't far from crap kept us up and kept us up but Spencer that's just what he wanted go on John Collins no it's not John Collins Mark Hughes was crap as well for us we got him in we got him from Chelsea we nearly had him a few times Hughes and we almost got him when he was brilliant he scored up at Newcastle in an FA Cup game he was signing for Everton on the Monday and he got stretched off on the Sunday classic Everton we almost had him when Canton Ah when Canton Ah jumped into the stand we were supposed to get him then by me but the Newcastle won which was so frustrating he was off at Newcastle he was signing for us on the Monday but on the Saturday Andy Cole that was when Cole was at United Cole on the Saturday played against Liverpool broke his leg so we had note we should have been getting him and the whole thing was scuppered and we got him at a time when he could have made a real difference he went to Chelsea then at the end of the season and was really good for Chelsea and then he just went shit he was 38 and he was shite and that one, the mission of Dabi the hugest in Dabi I can't forgive him mate got play clean through him and West of Eld he's on his own, edge of the box no one any man near him goll he was a beat and he flitted against him it's it low against him instead of clipping it over him and we were the one that dropped 10 minutes left and then he's another one he turned into a bit near the end didn't throw in his arms up in the air walking around then he left and became an even bigger prick when he was the city manager and he's never lost that prick in the sabarum he's one of the few we should have done ever the biggest 11 he's one of the few everton players I despise I just ate him honestly I can't accept he was an everton player that twice in my game he could have put in technical wise we've put the ass on there just because he's the red heron he's on a strike he's probably technically one of the worst footballers I've ever seen forever but I think I said this to the week on something else he came in he went on to the restaurant trial doing even a Premier League club they bombed them off we were desperate for the strike he gave it a season see what happens he did that all the time he used to give loads of people there's an absolute long list of everton players that were in for a season Abraham, Said, Plessis killing Plessis there's loads of them mwyshwt lwchaf for a year and then just go cold yarn Rodrigo there's loads that mwyshwt lwch ar yng ngor it's just bare wages might be able to sell your own that one with Antlin Peterlin he's a doctor in Denmark now fighting the coronavirus top man 32 years so strike coming in looked awful but on the first game did a little flick for Drenthe to run through to Wigan disappeared he had four months of training with Premier League players and had been he was still crap but he'd been moulded into an effective an effective use of so when you had other players around obviously you just said run around a bit making new sense you'll get a chance and if you're a decent if you're a decent if you're a striker and you're a striker at any level if a chance falls here you should be it's all about the other things of like can you get to that place and he took a couple of chances and I'll never go aww shach i eisla it'd be like me no one could go you could go, you're crap, but have I tried and the ass is the same the ass is not a very good footballer but every time we've called on him to help us he's genuinely done it and he's got goals for us he wouldn't get in people's teams if you were picking on him but he's never seen the ass walk around the pitch and you put the kid on for five minutes and the end you're still running around and you won't walk on and go fuck you and anyone who put him on the pitch when he got brought on against West Ham which was the death nail for Martinis, what's Martinis's fault we had 10 men on the pitch and he's bringing on someone who'd never kicked the ball at the Premier League level he brought him on a villa and we nearly blew a 3-0 lead a villa because of the same reason he brought a player and clearly did not have a clue how to play football at that level and that's on you as a manager that's not on him that's on you he's just going on to do his job he's not in the framework of your team I mean this is a lad who barely knew how to run around the centre sails he didn't know how to be paraded as a player he had cheese and an evidence offer and a calf which was terrible well damn it but what a guy andy brasil said he was boss remember andy brasil said he played off the left and he'd be incredible so there you go there you go that's our West Everton Premier League 11 let us know your thoughts do you agree, do you disagree give us your 11 think about this is what's great about it so subjective to your own memories of players or opinions on players or whatever it's going to be dead easy to just do it most of them would never have played and being a kid you just came out and went and John Hills remember John Hills had a meeting to be loads of them but this is like you've got to have your particular reasons like you know like we have there you go let us know your thoughts in the comments I'm looking forward to seeing and reading everyone's feelings on this one don't forget if you like this video give it a like if you want more videos shown is on Patreon link is in the description and if you haven't subscribed please subscribe thanks for watching see you later