 Well, I came in 1973 and it's really interesting because my time at area also started with a phone call from Niall Brady Yeah, and Niall Brady said to me my economist Randy Barker has taken a sabbatical leave. How did he get your phone number? Well, you know Niall was here at Cornell himself at the time. He'd just been hired to replace Ralph coming senior Who had been who had been moved? I know to Iqour said to Iqour said Ralph coming senior had been appointed director general of Erie after Chandler I remember that okay But you know it didn't last long only six months and then the Iqour said people Whoever was on the board there said oh no, we need you more over here So they basically this is the Ford and Rockefeller members of the board because they were on the Erie board And they were on the Iqour subboard. Yeah, so basically they said okay Cummings. We need you over in India at Iqour sub Yeah Ralph was a he's a great institution builder He was the guy that could build the Institute the bricks and the mortar right now He was a terrible manager. Was it? Oh, I didn't know. I mean he always wanted to know where I was Bob Channel at one time somebody came in and asked where I was Bob said I don't know. He said at the end of the year. I You know, I if he doesn't perform I get rid of them but but but The process where I was going on this trip and why stopping for two days in San Francisco I didn't want to tell them that I was going down to Stanford to give a seven Kind of like that. But anyway, that was a little bit like that too. Yeah, so now Brady called me up and He said you want to come out to Erie while Randy Barker's on sabbatical. Yeah, okay It turned it turned out that we had stopped at Erie We'd been in India in 1963 and again in India in 1967 on the way back from one of those trips We stopped in the Philippines and seeing Erie And you know, we thought well, that's where the action is. Yeah, and just about In the 70s, you know the talk about the Green Revolution You know I rated come on the scene and burst on the scene in fact in 1967 Ralph Cummings, Jr. I made a trip to the Punjab That wasn't rice, but that was wheat. Yeah, that was a semi dwarf wheat and That 67 winter was a bumper crop From this wheat that they brought in from Mexico. Yeah They had piles of wheat in the in the schoolyards. They just didn't have enough warehouses to store it all So that made a big impression the Green Revolution was the talk of the town So when Nile asked me, you know, you want to come to Erie for you? I thought well, this is great I want to go out there and my specific objective Was to try to understand why small farmers weren't using this new semi dwarf rice Because that's what all the journal articles were talking about. Yeah, they yes Oh, sure. They have they have this miracle rice, but small farmers aren't using it so I Went out there you were gone and in fact Tom Wickham was the acting head of the economics department Which I think caused some consternation. How could this economy this water management guy is engineered be head of economics? But anyway, we worked it out Tom left me alone because I was only going to be there a year and You know took advantage of the loop survey And went to central is on with Abhimanyak and thumb of Paris and some of those people Vially Cordova and Went out there to see why aren't these small farmers using this miracle rice What turned out they were yes, right You know it turned out they were yeah, well, why does everybody have it wrong? Yeah, so that became a theme of inquiry, you know And it turned out there were a lot of farmers who were using it, but then there were other farmers who weren't and In time in in places and times of the year Practically, nobody was using it. So, you know that became the puzzle that we that we set out to untangle So, you know, I came back after leave and I couldn't get you out of my office But look we moved out of your house, right? Well, yeah, but the point is I went to see Niall and I said Bob's in my office. He said Niall said, well, we got a rather tight, you know space. So He gave me a desk and my people behind the piano In the lounge and it's for those of you that are familiar with here. He today is where the coffee shop now And and you know move back there and every now and then I had to Say tell the people playing the piano. Hey stop playing the piano or try to think and stuff like that for a bit Okay, but you know Randy, I mean that was nice. It's kind of like this room, you know lounge and easy chairs You take it easy. Well, you know later they moved of course Brady Hall over now. Yeah, and you know then they moved us over In into Brady Hall next to the plant readers that that's as close to the almighty as you can get That's right. That's right But they put us up on the second floor where we were kind of out of the way. Yeah That that that space was originally going to just be the deck over the Over the gene bank. Yeah, and then Hugh Murphy got the architects to redesign and make offices for the economists