 All right. Time now for our Miami bureau chief. Let's go to Miami where Bruce Smirnoff is standing by. Hi David. Earlier in the show we had Fred Stoller on the program. I love Fred. And he said you gave him a Seinfeld episode. Of course. I want to hear your version of that story. Well before I tell the story I think Fred is one of the few people I gave financial excuse me advice to and I think he followed it I think he's you know because he makes a nice living he's in like a million things and I said put it away put you know a segment of your money away and I think he really got into that so fortunately for him I think he's going to retire very famous and very wealthy so that's a good story. Good. Now the bad one. So in I think I started lifting weights in I was really skinny and I think around 89 I started doing heavy duty weight lifting and I outgrew my suits. Did he talk anything about it. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. So I had these two nice Armani suits that I bought and and I and I had to give them away because I was now like a 42 long where I used to be a 40 long and I it's very hard to find people our size so I knew Fred was tall and skinny I mean he's not wasn't known to be one to dress up but but still I didn't want to give him to good will because they were too good to give away so I called him up I said look I got two suits want to get rid of them I'll give them to you it's that simple and he goes I fine and I and and I give them to him and their black suits and they were very nice and he goes what can I do to pay I go I don't want anything I just want to make sure they go to you know you rather than some homeless guy that's going to urinate in the month first 20 minutes and he puts it on so he says he goes how about I buy you a meal I said fine you can buy me a meal so that that that's the deal and I remember and and I think like about five days later he calls me and remember I told you last show about watching Larry Hagman's liver get flown in to see the sign I because we're at Jerry's tell well it was like we used to sit at the same place I used to always like to sit right in the front so he calls me goes on they were they were flying the liver and fresh for Jerry's yeah it was in one of those you know lunch buckets where they pour the ice and they had the surgery they had all the they had all the media trucks there so I don't believe it was the same time I think that Larry Hagman's liver was later but so this has got to be like 19 I don't know let's say 91 92 and Fred calls me meet me at Jerry's though it's 11 o'clock at night I go I hang out late so I show up there and he goes I want to buy you your dinner and I go that's very nice of you but I ate already it's 11 o'clock at night I'll tell you what I'll do I'm gonna have a bowl of soup but I don't want this to count as my meal I mean I wanted to give you this stuff for free but you insisted on doing something so you want to buy me a meal this is not a meal this is 11 o'clock at night this is not the hours that you buy somebody dinner so this is like you're throwing this in and that's it you know I mean I didn't care but of the laws they're at you know whatever the rules of buying somebody dinner this was way out of and it just I just said it it was like a matter of fact thing I think I had a mushroom in barley could have had mozzarella soup don't remember it was not a big deal and so about three years later he's riding on Seinfeld and I get this call from Mark Schwartz I think his name was and I went to be you with him and he became like a giant casting director and he was the casting director for Seinfeld and they want me to read for this part and they go this was created like kind about you it's a you're at your your adventure with Fred Stoller and I read the script and you know it's like word for word you know I'm going hey look at me I'm pumped you know because I was showing them how big my my biceps got and I couldn't fit into the suit in the hole and so I am very excited I went and I read and I read with them I read with Mark Schwartz and Larry David it was pretty powerful and I was a little nervous but I mean all I had to do was be me and I was and they did not give me the part they gave it to Steve Heitner who became Banyan on the show and he got like 13 reoccurring episodes so I'm very happy for him because Steve Steve was very funny Heitner and he's been in a lot of movies and he's had he's had himself a great career and you really have to know how to act you know it's being to stand up is one thing acting you know it does require something else so I don't have it I don't harbor any bad things I wish I had gotten the role it would have been phenomenal but that was just one of those things but yes that's true story so you actually auditioned to play me and they reject they gave my part to Steve Heitner because he was a better me than I was and that's yes if you want to look at it that way that's the horror but I try not to because I'm not addicted to any medication or pills and if I think too much about these things it could cause that so just kind of laugh it off and we go on to the next horse what was the story with Carol O'Connor oh that's such a long one you want to I forget we didn't talk about that one did we boy you must be really excited the way you just eased me in that was like a Tom McCann shoehorn you just you just had that in a back you want that you want that 11 minute juicy story um I mean I could do that I could tell you some other time some other time that's okay so yeah what happened uh how's Miami do you miss Los Angeles no I miss all my friends and I've go I go back occasionally like I told you I worked for Don Casino Productions and we're an agency that books cruise ships and we're very popular and high agency it's very nice working for them because I get treated with a lot of respect from all the artists but we do a showcase at the ice house now we've done it two years in a row so I get to come back and I gotta tell you left in 2001 and the traffic is even worse than it was in 2000 just when you thought it couldn't get any worse it's horrible even with the subway which I I was not there for I know it opened up from downtown I think to Western Avenue or Vermont where does it go somewhere and then it goes up Vermont up to Hollywood Boulevard so I never I haven't seen that because I usually stay in Pasadena when we do the thing at the ice house but yeah I don't miss LA but I miss my friends do you miss LA you don't live there anymore do you I don't live there anymore I find Manhattan to be godless it's all so transactional it's hard to have real friends in Manhattan but that's not true that's just a phase I'm going through yeah and you live on like the Upper East Side I lived in New York I went from LA to New York for two years I think we talked about this when I went to Brooklyn and the thing about all my friends were the comics you know at all the clubs and everything and no one I had this really cool place in Bay Ridge Brooklyn and I wanted to have like guys over for Thanksgiving I couldn't get if I was giving away gold bullion I couldn't get anybody to come to Brooklyn I mean maybe now they go to like what is it that area that they built under the bridge you know the where the Jews live what Williamsburg and all the hipster areas but you couldn't get anybody to come to Bay Ridge I go please I'm getting a turkey I mean I got great pies and cakes I can't go to Brooklyn I can't I can't go to Brooklyn I mean it's a subway ride you know but no so I understand that but yes Manhattan I was too old I was um when I moved to New York you gotta you gotta be full of piss and vinegar to take the subways and schlep with the hot coat when it's cold out and then you get in the subway and you start to sweat all that stuff yeah yeah yeah okay where were we what were you were talking about Miami and what's going on in Miami nothing there's nothing going on here this is where people come to retire and and then they eventually die you know this is it I mean it's like this is the almost the end and the end there's nothing prior to that there's good restaurants there's uh well I mean but again it's half true because when you say Miami I don't live in my I live in Delray Beach so I'm 38 miles from there when you talk about Miami you're talking about South Beach yes very exciting it's very Spanish it's very Cuban oriented you are almost in another country if you're young you like to dance you want to stay out late it's wild it's incredible they they uh I'm reading books now about what Miami was like in the 70s Miami Beach in the 70s and it was a horror show and then when the Mario Litos were let out of out of Cuba Castro emptied his mental institutions and his jails in 1980 because he was able to hoodwink Jimmy Carter into letting them out and they and you're talking about hundred thousand or so hardcore mental patients and criminals going into like a 10 block area so it was really uh just a horror zone but then they've cleaned it up and it's become spectacular great great now let me tell let's go back to show business because I mean I don't want you to I don't want to divert anything I have good stories I just do Carol O'Connor thing I got to like wind myself up I will do we'll do Carol O'Connor next time right but like I wanted to tell a story about because I imagine I'm getting some emails from people who listen to this on your podcast and they're very uh complimentary and I imagine a lot of them are artists so I wanted to talk about you know some weird things I've seen in my career being as I said a fly on the wall so I was friends with bud Robinson who you remember bud he handled doc severance and a lot of famous acts and bud and I were friends and bud freedman I know it's weird to tell a story with two buds but there's bud freedman who owned the improv and his his wife alex and we were all we're all very bud why don't we say bud freedman and then bud light okay bud freedman and bud light so bud light uh had a great apartment on el taloma in west hollywood and he used to entertain a very fancy place and a lot of famous people living in the building so whatever it was one night bud had us over for dinner and we're sitting at his dining room table this is 1981 and I'm going to say it's about january of 81 I'm 25 years old so I'm a kid and I'm innocent I I don't know the seedy side or the downside or the weird side I started to experience it but this is one of the things I experienced so the doorman comes and says regis wants to come up and we'll go oh regis is coming and they're in there go who's regis they go regis philbert I go wait i'm a regis philbert I remember that name uh it was on local news in LA and then it I think joey bishop had a show going up against carson and he was the psychic so I go oh I'd love to meet this guy and in walks this very handsome he's only about I did I tell you this story no the door opens up and in walks very handsome man and these people were all but Robinson but light but free been the whole trip everybody was like 50 years old I'm 25 and in comes regis and he was about 50 years old and he sits down at the table and they introduced me and you know we were talking for about two minutes and then all of a sudden he starts to cry regis and I mean crying to where very you know sobbing and his body was shaking and he's saying my life is over it's all over I had an audition it didn't come through and and it's all over for me and I've never you know we all think these things but we and we all have sadness but I've never seen a grown-up cry like this and it was it was it was very sad to see this and and I watched bud and bud freedman try to comfort him and alex too you know doing every hey read you know riding high in April shot down and may you never know why where life is gonna and he was just no this is it and it was just so so impactful to see this and I gotta tell you for you show business people living about four months later where he thought this was the end of his world he got that morning show and need I tell you how famous he became and how you know popular he was and I was there for like a very bad moment of his career but thank god it was just temporary and whenever people say my career is over I'm never going to get an opportunity again I always tell these these stories are very inspirational you know it's inspirational but but he's amazing he might be the greatest broadcaster whoever did it that's right right and this could have been two hours of his life that were just you know I mean I'm I just happened to be in this man's worst two hours of his life and I and but but I have never met him before so this is how I meet him at the bottom and then and then look where he is now he you know he was supposed to be down here with Don Rickles just like a month ago but Don you know it passed away but you know still still vibrant still performing still like one of the greatest TV personalities of all time yeah still looks great and he got rejected he was given another opportunity and he made it work because he wanted it I mean if you react that way if you're crying in front of friends about being rejected this guy obviously wanted it more than anybody else isn't that a a key component of success wanting it that badly that you would break down and cry over losing an audition don't know no I mean the wanting it real badly is one thing I think I think almost everybody who's in the business wants it real badly but it's the execution I mean I always use Jerry Seinfeld as an example I mean I never hung out with him but the people that I know that hang out with him to talk about his work habits and that they were they were like you know they were incredible where you know no fooling around no kibitzing with people just go home do the writing Woody Allen the same thing these people just sit down and they don't do anything until they get the work done and a lot of people are BSers and I guess I have to say I was one of them where I wanted to be real popular and famous but I don't know if I actually applied myself I have to you know I have to say that then they're people who don't apply themselves I mean Rickles didn't apply himself he wasn't sitting working he just went on stage and did it correct correct yeah yeah well he probably had the balls you know where he could insult people like that where that was you know you can't yeah like I say I can sit and try to break these things down I always try to blame myself and and find out what where was where did I lack and I know I'm not a great writer I'm a good comic and stuff but I would sit down I would say I'm going to sit for five hours and I'm going to write jokes and you know within minutes my mind was wandering and I couldn't focus you're a real writer so do you have that problem when you sit can you sit for three four five hours yeah but I'm not writing stand up stand up is conversation all my great jokes for stand up are through conversation then there's the mechanics of writing jokes but that's for other people in TV where it's stand up has to be authentic you can't force authenticity right onto the page although I don't know I I there's a process for stand up well some of these some of these stand-ups they're not authentic they're at all but they're you know they're clever they're observational it's so amazing when you talk about stand up it encompasses everything you know who who were some when I worked at the improv and I would see these people come in it was a guy Michael Collier remember him and that guy Charlie I can't remember his name but he was on Saturday night live Charles right no no black guy he used to these were all right yeah and he died young but these these and then there was another guy these black guys who were street performers these guys were not writers they were just they were trying to street perform to get money I think it's called but but what are they busking sir but busking busking yeah and these guys would come to the improv because they would did something they were on some show something happened where they got they got a lot of attention and the whole industry would come to watch them and you know you knew that room was like full of like a quarter of heavy hitters people that could just okay anything and that's enough to scare anybody out of their shoes but these guys because they were so used to performing on on the streets and nothing nothing through them they would shine and they got everything so yeah so writing their writing ability I don't know what their writing ability was but certainly their fear factor was zero zero right Charlie Barnett Charlie Barnett yeah yeah yeah yeah rick of vealist you remember that yeah so so when I started in Boston in 1975 rick of vealist was in New York but he would come up excuse me and hang out in Boston and we would do these gong shows him Teddy Bergeron does that name ring a bell IV VI the Roman soldiers falling in right Teddy's one of the greatest yeah very very sick right now I'll have an update hopefully soon but I stay in touch with him because I started with Teddy this is 1975 when there was nobody doing comedy but Rick of Vealist would come up from New York and he was another one of these the first time I met Rick it was on a subway in Boston and I didn't know him and I just heard somebody he used to do Red Fox Wolfman Jack and he would just walk up and down the street cars and you know get money from people because he would just so spot on and very smiley so he didn't he didn't scare people at all and then he showed up on the comedy scene then and and he he lit up the room he was just great again no no writing ability but just an amazing presence and a great mimic well Red Fox and Wolfman Jack are the same voice yeah he did have a very raspy word but he was just super I mean he would we would there was no place to perform in 1976 77 the comedy connection didn't really start until late 70s maybe 78 I can't remember I think like 78 so we would just go to coffee houses and we would go to these things called gong shows they were very popular and they would be held at this restaurant chain around Boston called ground round the ground around and what they would do is they'd have a house band and the house band would give you the symbol so you put the symbol to like three drunken people in the audience and they would be the they would be the judges and they would and they would you know they had this drumstick where they would hit the gong if they didn't like you and it would be me teddy rick of vilas and then various people people singing and all this stuff and and I used to get gonged I would say hi I'm Bruce Smirnoff bang done you sometimes would have to you know take buses to get to these gong shows who take so long and I'd get gonged within just saying my name so I never went but Teddy and Rick of Vilas were superstars he used to rotate of who would win one of the other would always win when are you going on your next cruise ship did I lose you are you there there oh I'm sorry I turned my my speaker down did you you heard all that yes of course when when is your next cruise I don't go out till October okay good so we should do this once a week okay I'm getting very positive feedback wonderful your stories are great and it cheers me up good tell me off the air are we off the air no no no tell me one more story and then we'll wrap it up okay so I wanted to just show you the ups and downs of life because show business has obviously a lot a lot of downs that we don't see but we when we see the ups it's sensational but I I'm working in Atlantic City nine I believe it's 1991 and I'm in this I'm in a review show called swing swing swing which is singers and dancers I come out in the middle and I do 10 minutes while the dancers are resting backstage that's a funny story that's but that's another day but the reason I want to tell the story is at night I would leave my show and I'd go over to one of the hotels and there was a singer named Sonny Averona and he was like a man in his mid fifties and he was like a crooner and a jazz guy like a very very very influenced by Sinatra and I would go and watch his show and I introduced myself to him because I was in this review show for like six weeks so I would go there every night and I became friendly with him and he was a man who had like a motor automotive business in Philadelphia transmission something like so he had a successful life as this man in the automotive business but this was his passion in life and he would say oh koo koo kray whatever and it was really cool and he had a following from Philadelphia and these people would come and then sometimes he would ask me to get up and do five minutes so I would get up and tell jokes and I felt really cool because it was that you know it was a real uh it was a mafia crowd basically is what I'm trying to say it was like a real gangster it was really cool and so right near the end of my gig was in May and he goes hey kid come over here I said what he goes you're not going to believe this but I didn't want to tell anybody until tonight and he goes um the New York Times has been following me for a few weeks and they're writing a front page article about me going from the automotive business to now having my own room in Atlantic City I went congratulate front page New York Times Sunday section of the Cal you know whatever it's called the arts and leisure I said it's fantastic I congratulate him and then I left on that Sunday and he died that night so the article came out the the next day and he died I mean he was dead before the article came out isn't that weird what what did he die of like a heart attack you can look it up sunny avarona avarona and you'll you'll read him his bio his his obituary I think you can still find the article but yeah I mean you talk about you couldn't be on the front page of the arts and entertainment arts what is it called Sunday stop yeah whatever arts entertainment of the New York Times and you died the night before and it was just natural cause he just you know he was he you know whatever he must have smoked whatever it was and I just always remember that you know he got he got the break and he wasn't around to reap the benefits of it so there's there's your irony yeah do you ever feel you get what you want uh I don't know what do you mean by that where you get to a place in your career that you probably wanted to die not to no no not that no but I'm talking about instead of regretting what could have been do you ever say actually this isn't so bad it was kismet I was I was supposed to yeah I mean I say that all the time but I don't believe it no I mean you know I mean I deal with where I'm at and believe me I live a great life it's enviable I understand that but to me it was you know like um Avi was at this thing last night I guess Mel Brooks Carl Reiner Dick Van Dyke they were giving some some lecture in LA and Avi put a little bit of a clip of it up on on Facebook today I mean I I know this sounds weird sitting in my underwear here in Delray Beach Florida but I mean I wanted to be one of those people I thought I you know I really thought I was cutting the cloth because you know you just all comics feel that way what did you think when you move to Los Angeles what did you think was gonna happen well I I thought I was gonna get a sitcom like everybody else that was 1978 when I moved here I really have a great look I'm still funny I have a funny you know look um but I never put it in the time and I don't know how to act did you play it I mean did you play it out did you say all right I'm gonna get a sitcom and from the sitcom I didn't have to when I came out there I got all this stuff thrown at me immediately because of my look so you know Mitzi I you know discovered me having coffee with the Mitchell Walters next to the comedy store and I hadn't even tried to get on at the comedy store she wanted me on stage and I an agent got with me immediately and sent me out for TV shows and then I got that Archie Bunker show thing I got all this stuff but it all it all imploded because I had no ability I mean I had the look but I wasn't developed so you had the look you that's interesting so you had the look you come out to LA and they immediately start immediately because you're the new face it's a good face and uh but then how long had you been doing stand-up when you came to well technically since 1975 but in Boston you had no place to go on and like I said sometimes I would I would go on stage and I would be booed off or gonged off within moments so you were a baby you moved to LA as a baby 22 on my 22nd birthday yeah 20 your 22 and 22 and I'm getting these parts and auditions and they're actually giving me the parts but then I don't know what I'm doing so I'm you know that that comes the Archie Bunker thing and I'm I'm I'm failing miserably and then once you fail then you get labeled so it went I'd say by 24 I was labeled whatever you know done not good can't act can't isn't funny blah blah blah good look but that's it so then I stayed in LA and I was able to cobble together a real live act and then went on the road I did everything ass backwards and then when I got really good I almost had a second you know with that one man show that we talked about one of your episodes so I almost was able to turn it on its tail but I was not able to so uh yeah if you there was a definite detriment to going to Los Angeles before you're ready too much too soon way much way too much too soon yep yep and then when you get pronounced done as you know you're done you know you're cooked is that is that really true or is it or is it psychological well it didn't stop me from trying to develop but it shut all the doors I couldn't you know I couldn't get agents I went to all these fancy uh acting classes and um you know I tried to I tried to turn everything around but again I I couldn't what was the happiest moment during that period I would say I guess it was when I was able to take all the failures of of my career in Los Angeles and then turn it into the one man show and then have a patch theater you know granted it was a 55 seat theater but every night you know every night I performed the show it was standing room only some nights I had to put people you know on the stage we had to put chairs on there and killing just killing and I'd have celebrities coming to the show and uh it would be so exciting to have people come up to me go you know I used to see you hang out at the improv I mean you seem like a nice guy but I never took you seriously I never watched you perform but you know now I think you're terrific and that was that was very nice one time I get this guy come up to me I had um you remember uh Danny Robinson that's Bud's son Danny Robinson came to see my show he's with APA and all these people came to see me this one particular night after the LA Times article and they come out at the end of the show and they're they're shaking my hand and going this was really good and all of a sudden this man about 60 years old he pushes them all aside a man who like had authority I didn't know who he was but he just bled authority from his pores and he pushed Danny Robinson away Bernie Young was there uh Rosie O'Donnell's a guy and pushed him off to the side he goes I'm Sai Sussman I'm with William Morris are you represented by anybody Sai Sussman you did you know Sai Sussman no I love the name though he had the name yeah I'm Sai Sussman did you have a toupee please tell me had a toupee nobody had thinning hair he goes I'm Sai Sussman I'm William Morris who represents the show and I just uh I kind of angled my way away from Danny and away from Bernie and I just went nobody he goes just Jeff which is know about this show I went I really don't know I've been calling his okay I know Jeff I'm having I am calling tomorrow we are going to handle you across the board I want this show I want you as an actor and I want you as a stand-up and then if he had said I also want to go to the palm right now and have a 12 pound lobster I would have said absolutely let's get in the car so that was one of the highest highs because just the whole that whole moment and then I go home and of course I couldn't sleep but he told me to call Jeff witches you know in the morning I waited I waited till like 10 30 so the guy would have his morning coffee and I call William Morris Jeff witches please Bruce Smirnoff sorry Jeff witches office I go hi it's Bruce Smirnoff Sai Sussman told me to call Jeff which Sai Sussman and she goes one moment please and two seconds it goes by hey Bruce it's Jeff hi Jeff they go listen I am totally uh clued in on your show I have it written down send someone from the office to come down and see it but I gotta tell you one thing Sai Sussman is our projectionist I go absolutely he projects all the projects that come to William Morris he goes no no you don't understand Sai Sussman projector in the screen room I got screwed I came up I walked up on my sister in law I said oh my god oh I oh that's oh that was a bad day oh it's not a bad day oh my god and oh is that funny Sai Sussman Sai Sussman and the happiest moment while you were in the thick of it in your early 20s I'd have to say when the LA Times article uh came out you know because I knew it was coming out Thursday calendar Sunday calendar is the biggest Sai Sussman a Thursday calendar is uh is also very big so I waited until what is that called the bulldog is that the first the first it comes out about 2 33 o'clock in the morning this is back in 1990 uh right the bulldog and I guess reading that are I don't know there were a lot once that once things were going well with the show I had a lot of meetings at networks well but that's that was the review of your show it was an article about my show I'm talking about no I'm talking about the thick of the 22 year old Bruce Myrnoff coming to LA well that's the Archie Bunker story you know I mean no I'm asking for the happiest moment well the happiest moment is when I got the part you know I mean highs are always accompanied by lows in many in my career so that's we'll talk about that next week okay can you imagine being a child actor you were 22 23 when things go really wrong in Hollywood and they always do and you look into the abyss and you have to summon up the courage to go on right I mean it if you come to Hollywood anybody who comes to Hollywood does not leave unscathed because you're chasing something you need something you want but it just isn't right for the most part right yeah yeah yeah I mean but the only thing I can say is that I listened to I guess throughout my life I listened to people like you and I discussing so when you listen rationally to people talk like this you know there has to be lows before there's highs and then when there's highs there has to be lows it's just the cycle of life and some of the acting classes I was in they always warn you I mean this is this is I think what did get me through the Carol O'Connor thing was that they always said stuff happens and you can't you can't let it get to you so that's how I was able to write the one-man show is that I just absorbed all these horrible stories it happened to me I just figured that they happened to everybody so I would tell them on the road you know 1987 I would tell them to a comic in the middle of Phoenix Arizona in a Dunkin Donuts and they would go no this never happened to me none of these things that you're talking about and then I realized maybe I had something special but yeah I just assumed that everybody went through that childhood stars a lot of them when they hit a certain look at look at Spanky and all the little rascals the kids that we grew up watching as little you know we just thought they were eternal stars but when these people hit 1314 they were done they're done luckily the the only good thing about being a child actor is your body changes and you're unrecognizable so your fame disappears and you can get on with your life supposedly if you can accept except for Jackie Cooper he was he survived at all right I guess a few more but he was able to uh he as his body changed he was fine right how about being 40 and famous everybody knows who you are and you're doing something that sucks and everybody's saying it and you know it sucks and you know that you walk into a room and everybody knows that you're on something on some show that sucks that it's about to be canceled yeah that's gotta be really hard I can't put myself in that position so I'll have to go along with you on that don't you think that's very isolating don't you think it makes you very hard on the inside I guess when you're getting out of your Mercedes you know and going into the palm maybe you know maybe you're twitching but you're still getting out of your Mercedes and going into the palm you know I mean I I don't know I mean how many good things on T first of all it's all subjective anyway but how many things that you're a very critical I'm very critical how many shows do you watch on TV I watch none I watch Fargo you know that's it I think I Fargo in the Narcos those are the only two things I watch on TV I think it's better now I think it's better now it's phenomenal now it's fantastic it's unbelievable I'm talking about mental health for famous people I think that if you're an actor and you're on a show that sucks and nobody's watching it it's less of a humiliation because if nobody's watching it nobody knows about it because they give me an example give me a show that you you thought sucked I would say if you were I don't want to name names I'm not Elia Kazan the point I'm making is in the 70s in the 80s up until about 2005 you could be famous and you'd get on a big network show and you would fail publicly now even Tim Allen his show just got canceled last man standing on ABC did you know it was on no no I didn't know it was I didn't know it was on until I heard it was canceled I think that's a healthier way for actors to become famous because you know there was a time when we knew who the stars were now you're less likely to be humiliated from your failure I don't know if I could handle I don't think I'm capable I don't think I have the Constitution to suddenly become famous have it taken away from me which always happens and then have to fight for it back and then have it taken away from you and fight for it back these movie stars that's it's schizoid it's manic depression one year you're you have a hit movie the next year it's a flop and you I don't know how they do it I don't know if they're if they're smart you take your money and you don't pee it away and you invest it and there's other things in life I mean there's there's people you watch a movie that you really like and you go wonder whatever happened to that actor and of course we google it and you see the guy you know you want you can look at his whole resume and then you see he fell out around whatever 1999 but then you see he bought a winery or he you know got his racing cars and these people have great life they have good investments and they live a good life Randolph Scott what he had a good life yeah afterwards yeah don't put your kids into show business never absolutely it's so bad so I see it down here you see it on facebook people dress their kids up and they they encourage them to do and I just go boy what are they what are they doing they have no idea what the what they're getting their kid involved with especially if the kid gets any kind of modicum of success then you've really you've really set off the kid a woman and her husband called me yeah about two years ago and they had at the time a 12 year old son who was acting and funny and saying they wanted me to help and I knew I wasn't going to do it but I took the call and I listened for 20 minutes and we really think he's gonna make it and we want to move now because he's 12 and he's still cute and I listened and I said I'm not interested but I'll give you some advice I'll give you some really good advice and they go oh yeah yeah what is it I said get a job yep you get the job let him be a kid but but he's so timid but go get a job you know it's their pimps is what they are their pimps yeah yeah I mean well they're living there they're living vicariously through the child and they I don't think they they understand what what can happen period their their their pimps Bruce Smyrnoff is our Miami bureau chief we'll check in with you next week thank you very much David