 Hello and welcome once again to the last of us television show curiosity of the whole world of whether or not it's going to be any good everybody's keeping their eye on it as a video game adaptation as a fun tv show as a thing in general and we're here to offer our perspective here and there first episode like i said seems to have gone over relatively well with uh with the people of the world and a lot of people said it's up to episode two now to see if if that was a fluke or if there's going to be a pattern emerging as well as comparisons to how the game does it lots of thoughts on you know whether or not they'll be taking dialogue or scenes we talked about our lack of spores is going to change things i've heard about a change they've made to how the monsters work or rather the enemies work and something that curious how it manifests in this as well as um whether or not bigger changes are coming like are we going to see tommy earlier the drama's going to be involved with him and what's going to happen to tess because the game has set out quite a specific path i think so far that we've had good things to imply from the dialogue the performances the production values and the faithfulness so i think we're in a good spot that's what i reckon what do you guys so far so far yeah after that first episode i thought that was pretty solid yeah i thought it was pretty good too i'm curious to see what they do next there's plenty of things i could get wrong though hopefully they won't shoot themselves in the foot here we've tried to highlight uh little little pieces of dialogue that i think are better than others that imply something going on one of the ones i caught i meant to praise was um when he's talking to the uh the radio guy and he's like show me where the tower is and the guy's like all this open country there are worse things than infected out there are raiders there are slavers the crazy idea there's all kinds of horrible things out there y'all then says to him but your sure tom he's okay and then uh the guy just looks at him and then just starts explaining where he needs to go it's uh it's the kodi tower i thought it was neat in terms of like you're not going to stop if tom he's not safe and i can't tell you he is so he's well cut to the chase i'm just going to give you the information you need like uh interactions like that i quite like yeah yeah then there were a few of those in the first episode it's expeditious and character buildy and uh yeah well i guess uh without further ado let's see how this series continues hbio oh no the cordiceps zombies have made a civilization oh my god is this okay so this could be either before or after the uh no this is as far as two days before the outbreak oh my god it originates in jakarta or maybe i believe in the game it originates in uh it it was like indonesia or south america i can't quite remember because it was food so is it like a simultaneous all of food on earth or how does it work i think it was food from a particular location that got spread out to a bunch of different places i'm not i can't i don't quite remember what it was from the game it wasn't detected fast enough to stop yes yes something like that indonesia indonesia that fungy man it'll get you i'll just about your lunch you know what it's fine should take me i didn't think we were gonna get any more uh pre-apocalypse stuff yeah i'm actually surprised at doing this you are expert in cordiceps yes no no no i i mean no we have terrible stakes kind of ecology not my college if i have to deal with fungus things have gone horribly wrong i know me some mushrooms it's gonna be like they show her a sample she's like oh we're fucked yeah don't tell her the answers yeah quit women's planning to her oh there is a fungus oh i guess this is a nice companion piece for the first episodes opening scene in there so if that happens will you lose yeah i would get more of these it would be like a lot of good setups to be curious if we get one of these per episode of the world falling apart well i can kind of see that as a pattern now yeah i can be neat and maybe you keep changing country as well and maybe we get to see different people maybe we see what happened with bill you know also if you feel sick please leave us like oh great thanks oh my see what i see what is the age right for the show i can't remember how uh how violent they've been as well violent hasn't been that's been really violent how you doing there people oh no so who done did the bite did you dug it bad i thought you said you're dead not bad that is not my talk did you do gross it's been shot in the forehead so it's dead as fuck right i didn't know if that was what that is exactly i it's the implication under this thing attacks bulges maybe and they show it in the head yeah oh yum spaghetti oh careful don't breathe that this is an ugly room looks like a room gold man but might have please kill kill oh yeah but yeah i guess it considers we don't have a patient zero yeah oh it's a bit late for that oh shit just bob the whole place yeah what a mushroom is going to do against the power of nukes the power of the atom any problem is we don't do so well against nukes either he's like she's just basically like we lost game over like the first clip says that was the only transmission being bit well i think it's the implication on that scene is that it's already spread in the food now because she would have been working with it but uh spread around the world was food but yeah the question is of course how did she get it it's like presumably a bite and where did who bit her is like don't even know we can't even trace how they may have gotten it whoever bit her because obviously there would have been a jump an evolution or maybe even through species but i'm assuming the point the show is making is we can't even trace that yeah you guys ever see contagion yes no that film um you know it's dealing with the pandemic the process of it i think it became really popular when covid shot off actually like again numbers rose you're watching it i think that film ends with uh showing how it all started and it's like a bat eating um something somewhere and then like a pig eating something somewhere like it's just it's just you know unfortunate circumstances of cross this that and the other back to modern times it's a flutter by maybe this is a dream oh you have shitty dreams yes if you live in a world of mushroom people running around you dreaming about mushroom people maybe mushroom places this is the episode new drachman directed oh my oh oh yeah i guess they'd have issues with it let's do it do i look like i'm infected choose your arm i'm surprised they let her go to sleep to be honest yeah it's not getting any worse is it she'd locked me up and had her guys test me every day to see if i was getting sick test you how i have to oh for a second i thought she meant the test involved peeing well infection's a little more complicated than that love yeah you could be carrying it right now yep there's not gonna be anything bad in here just you hairline it'll heal fast she made it through the fucking night she doesn't matter it's gonna happen sooner or later we sneak her back into the qz we find a different way to get the battery this is our best shot i'm gonna scanner and no killer well better than than us you need to stop talking about this kid like she's got some kind of life in front of her yeah it's kind of complicated exactly what they would talk about this is super unprecedented for them and nobody's guiding them on this it's just like she's gonna die i don't know why are you so important to my don't lie to me i will take you back give me back you don't get your battery you heard that then you must have heard that he wants to shoot you i ain't denying it like you're an adult okay they're working on a cure we've heard this a million times vaccines miracle cures none of it works ever fuck you man i didn't ask for this you and me both we need to go back uh that framing felt very deliberate didn't it yeah i think that was actually pretty good i like that she is like teetering right now on a decision in it yeah the thing is she is the probably the best and clearest way to get what they want right now so much as twitches well it's what it's what tess said but but i mean you know tess is you know what i mean like is is that really why she's interested in doing it or is there if they're going the same route they do with character in the game then you can already start to read into why she's actually nudging them in favor of this choice and yeah i mean we got a lot more hospital doctors maybe zebra saving doctors i don't know absolutely not okay jesus fine i just don't fucking sandwich out no get a bottle or a brick well i mean she'll be probably getting that gun eventually not that one but there you go you're thinking about trying to do years of war with this sort of thing with the chunky those guys are chunky boys and put them in chunky armor we can't fit to the door break it down make a whole new world bigger chunkier the chunk plague everyone became chunky how did those sorts of things happen they bombed this area right okay they all all those you get moving infected pushed it over they got on this side pushed it over yeah i don't like civilization i'm also just noticing as well that all of the cars are like looking appropriate for the era something i was thinking about because i think that's all like a mastercard logo on the door and i was wondering like are we are we gonna be seeing only brands you know up to 2003 man mastercard still exists but you know if they simply bombed loads of major cities to slow it down that's how you know we've basically lost yeah essentially but i mean it's easy to see how it got out of control because so many people got sick so quickly yeah and i find it more believable than a lot of new i find zombie stories i really like the backdrop looks really good oh yeah and i mean just the fact that even though everything fell apart you've still got your quarantine zones around the place and then you've got different organizations with their own little sediments yeah no time they can build up but simultaneously they'll just not hurt each other well yeah five flies at war with the government how did you get bit you know the old mall in the qz one that's sealed off i wonder if we'll get that scene as well probably i would imagine we'll get a whole episode on that whatever i snuck in wanted to see what it was like dlc episode for the show there's gonna be anything in there and one just came out they had to know where i wonder if she's gonna mention uh it was just you and riley yeah because riley has been mentioned in episode one and you were safe there until you decided to sneak out and terrorist was riley a terrorist so it was just you in there alone yeah ah no she came not to herself yeah 14 i mean you got some balls on you sister thanks only tommy could go over trucks no if you don't know rides in the game he holds the door closed because there are a bunch of infected it's like well i'm gonna be faster than you so i can catch up that's why he's pissed up for the first one yeah it's a better one in the game yeah definitely everyone said the open city was crazy swarms are infected running around everywhere no people like to tell stories so there aren't super infected did explode fungus spores on you shit i hope no oh well i guess they're gonna kind of blunder at some point i thought the spores were just a non-element in this even if they were a non-element i could easily imagine man tv shows they just have them strongest budgets now don't they oh yeah well and you know when they pitched this they were like we can make you a lot of money with this one okay yeah here's our proof look at the game and then they'll be like what's all this about last was to like shut oh look oh my god how cute they use real ones not cg ones rockin a piano look i'm go this side i like it i like i like the practical sets they're cool yes there was a real frog on a piano as well they built real sets with tons of set they bought a frog they were taking ages to make this thing think of the people who got involved well because this show was shot over the course of i think a year it had a long long production i don't know how to swim true that is the thing i don't know how to know that that's how buildings work i i guess looking at it you might have thought it was deeper i don't know but yeah that'll be that'll be relevant another time i imagine well the fucker what are you doing sir i'd like your finest sweet hello the bell hop is not going to get a good tip he's scaring the customers he's scaring the customers so they have to push their own luggage i do like that his knuckles are still bruised there oh yeah they they made a good note of that at the beginning of the episode oh yeah boy and even he hurt himself doing it which is nice when a story acknowledges a bunch of somebody in the face over and over again it's probably gonna hurt your hand i think rags specifically said don't do that you'll hurt your hand damn don't like hurt your hand you'll need that man if i was them and i came across a hotel like that i'd be opening up the luggage because a lot of people they bring toothpaste toothbrush all things like that inside of their bags come i mean the passing through of different areas makes me think like has anyone looted these places because man you know it'd be gold mines waiting to happen that's what i'm thinking all that stuff that you can't really get anymore i mean if the games are in the toiletries i would go with the show yes a lot of these areas have been pillaged by moving groups of like raiders and bandits defining a locked door is like hey people haven't been in here maybe well i'm just easier for me to get through but you die and you get nothing you stay here's the thing you and me i'd be happy to have these three for several episodes i'd be fine with that it's a bit of a mess so i'm gonna need a few minutes gosh it's like a bomb went off in here terrible wallpaper look at it nice knife where'd you learn to do that the circus where are you from the circus see i could be a mass hall too what about test detroit it's in michigan i go to school i know where detroit is to be fair like do you go to school you don't know what you you don't go to school right now pass how long did infected live no i thought you went to school it's a really shitty one some last about a month or two there's others been walking around about 20 years i killed lots of is it hard like knowing they were people once sometimes what now it was very video gamey as well by the way like this door is stuck you have to lift your npc character over there to go and open it up while having some dialogue truly in like a city it can't be that hard to get where you need to go right well with all the roads sidewalks buildings meant for human traversal it does seem like they've opted go into a building when i wouldn't have thought they would want to do that until they reach the building they want let's try to scope it out to see if they can you know and get a vantage point yeah like oh dear right that's a lot of infected i'm sure what they're doing either i guess maybe they're sleeping the last one is it the sun that's fucking with them there the fungus also grows underground you step on a patch of quarter steps in one place and you can wake a dozen infected from somewhere else that's the new mechanic apparently now they come okay you gotta watch where you're walking no i have heard by the way that you you were correcting the assumption that the reason they got rid of the spores at least mainly from what i'm seeing is they wanted less gas masks more remote right bring he loves that i'm the one who likes gas masks too no he doesn't want people's faces covered up and the thing this is that like this to me is because they've replaced it with something else as a mechanic yeah it's not yeah this is the ground up we have we didn't arbitrarily throw this on in season two or something this is this is from the start right exactly and like this is just an alternate explanation that gives them that rather than let's take the helmet that protects me from like concussive damage yeah in uh in a battle because i need to have my face shown because i'm a famous actor why don't you take the fire escape ladder on the side of the building if there is one yeah it's like is this the way they have to go uh they're obviously invisible walls of the tv world as well oh no that's not good that's what really got everyone i come up against anything you get behind us and you stay there okay yes i have a spare hand congratulations you don't trust you with guns i think it's more for the uh the torch right oh no she's got one okay so yeah so it is the gun then obviously we'll be getting a payoff eventually with her getting a gun it'll be fun yeah this place would be was it a museum in the game yeah um oh yeah you encounter them in the buildings though right at night before you get here in the game like in the skies yeah um yeah yeah because i don't take a break they just go straight there well because the show itself isn't going to be as long as the game is it well it's kind of it's kind of complicated right because the show may be longer in other ways like it will have more strict cut scenes or more strict like you know scenes than the game does looks fresh what the fuck did that samby maybe he was a dead downside i'm crawling through the doors i don't hear it who would you hear who would you definitely needed to explain this to her uh she hasn't encountered a clicker before why aren't they telling her about the clickers and they should have told her that before they went in the building well i thought when joe when joe was talking about you know a month versus a year right because clickers are about a year and then bloaters is like they've been infected from the beginning more or less then there's ones in the last was to like the hyper flash pile things the rat king yeah and then there's other versions because i it's like the stalker as well which is like partway between clicker and runner i'm curious if they'll do the thing like in the game where the runners are sometimes standing there crying as they're twitching the last was offers you plenty of horror opportunities oh yeah this is a terrifying place to be what's interesting as well is that you probably want to be equipped for creating noises at a distance uh yes yeah picking up rocks or something like that you'd want to have an egg timer handy like video games do you always have like a little rock to throw especially well because runners are complicated they can still see you it's the clickers which by the way what a great idea they can't see so they use the echo location to find you look at this set take an age just to make this thing jesus look at this and it's going to be gone after this episode probably right this whole set probably yeah nice well they said step on a thing and i don't know how she accidentally stood on a whole last hand you got one job okay honey watch where you're going yeah don't really creepy right because it's kind of like alien where all the environment is like a particular way but then you can sometimes spots like oh that's a person yeah wow yep it's about on cue this is gonna be like one of the big reasons to have people be waiting for right a clicker yeah yeah bigger already you want to throw something across the other side of the room yeah i suppose they can be kind of easy to lose to an extent go float in that's dangerous wow it'll be like in that trailer for the game right when he loaded it and that was a thing that revealed this position i wonder if they'll do that again you can throw your shell yeah you should you should have thrown those if at least one of them is empty they make a nice then they make a nice tinkling noise oh show is it would write it yeah you're doing the thing you're doing it gotta be right there you don't even consider throwing the torch at this point anything to distract it one shot to the head right uh from the back but from the front the fungus is kind of like a protective thing hey just stop a bullet or at least dampen its effects that's what it did in the games yeah yeah in the game that's almost got mechanical value right like if you get it right yeah yeah and of course you can't take them in melee in the game unless you have a oh yeah they just insta kill you right i do love how like terrifying they've made them here what the fuck is it still alive they shot so many times plus kind of how they work they don't have like a human's health no they're stronger because i just made an encounter with two of them like absolutely terrifying intense difficult even though they're hardened survivors like still even 20 years in encountering like two clickers is terrifying shit my pants i assume it is you need to be bitten not just scratched or uh you gotta be bitten just wait there give us a minute there's probably more ahead so we'll deal with it then despite didn't take the one about the second i thought you'd just take the good news can you do that make the thing for once maybe we can actually win i was keeping an eye on it facial reaction when she said if it was going to be one of us yeah she's already been bitten is it everything you hope for or is that everything you hope for jerry's still out jerry's still out man one to one but man you can't deny that view you can't deny that view come on this way yeah it's like identical come on let's get there before it's dark they have to keep this up it's like man this would have cost a shit ton wouldn't it uh yeah i wouldn't be surprised if it was like nine figure budget hey it's already one of the most successful shows like on hbo ever so a lot of people like i've seen the sentiment like i've seen the walking dead why would i care it's like walking dead of shit uh yeah walking dead is lame the the show anyway the comic was pretty cool list up to the part where i read it but the show was lame and how many seasons did walking dead have like a million uh i think it got up to like 12 or 13 and there's like other spin-off shows too that had multiple seasons yeah fear the walking dead had already like six seasons or some shit right i and there's another one i believe too and i'm pretty sure that they're doing two new ones like they're bringing back uh rick and um machine for like another season like another series let it die amc won't let it go it's like their most successful thing and it wasn't even more than a breaking bad they found every way to make it cheaper as well didn't they uh it's so interesting how money translates because it'd be like is it worth putting all the money in to make all these sets for this show and it's like well it's gonna make people remember this show i'm not kidding well it was there the thing right like the walking dead was the biggest show on on amc ever and the second season got a reduced budget per episode it's like seems odd interesting about the walking dead is that that's a show my parents used to watch and then my mom said we stopped watching it when characters started acting fucking stupid for no reason when they should know better and i'm like man if like normies yeah like my parents are super mega normies yeah and i think it's the reason why you have if it continues at this rate like this show will be pretty strong and i'm pretty sure everybody will agree with that sentiment they're doing a good job i don't mean this in a denigrate way but they're copying so what else is very good homework so that's true but they've done a lot of things that are neat well what i'm the reason i bring that up is that they've got like a safety blanket almost a safety net i should say well i mean it's a skillful safety blanket right of the didn't they not really adapt it that accurately they they they deviated um pretty significantly oh i spent a lot more time figuring out that uh yeah well we know this building fringy but we're trying to meet up with the fireflies right now right yes but the delivery girl oh dear um that seems a little more agitated than you'd expect yeah seems like it's about more than just a car battery i mean there's gotta be a a fucking radio or something right ammunition you'll need that what have them got bit the healthy ones but the sick ones everyone lost tess he says that like that's happened before a lot it's over we are going home this man by fucking home our luck had to run out sooner or later she's infected this is real don't she's fucking real i need you to get her to bill and frank's i never ask you for anything not to feel the way i felt not to let you shut the fuck up because i don't have time to get her there you keep her alive and you said everything please you know a little bit more of them there you go the mechanic pays off kind of like a one of us has just been destroyed destroy whatever did that sort of thing making sure that they don't follow you man this is a bit more of a uh massive like blaze of glory for her than uh in the game ah oh take some of those absolutely yeah i mean like guys we've got ammunition it will say boxes you are correct but this is joel is not going to be a rational right now yeah oh i would just i would just get a grenade do you want to do it taking grenades pulling pins throwing pulling pins throwing are these clickers they're not hearing her oh well she's already infected right so maybe they don't care oh well like this was said right even if you're infected it'll kill you they'll they'll fuck you up yeah all right well yeah well there you go yeah we got episode two i think that was good yeah i think so too i think they did a really good job establishing uh we've got like the human kit we had like an episode of like the human area now we got the infected area and they're very deadly it's not just like ooh i'm a zombie i'm gonna walk towards you how could humanity have lost no no no it's it's like it's actually uh yeah it definitely sells like that this is something that feels like it could actually like beat humans just the fact that even trying to fight two of them is like this incredibly terrifying encounter yeah they're kind of tanky they're kind of fast and and the alert others when you kill them or can anyway yeah well yeah that is a change right now we get to see what that actually looks like which is an interesting change it certainly is uh different than how it works before leverage there to enable quite a different payoff to win the game because in the game test basically just does a last stand against a bunch of military guys yeah uh whereas here it was like a massive explosion yeah and the acting it's just really on point really strong they take in yeah i'd say the important parts of the game i don't feel like we missed out at all on on any of the connecting pieces that up to this point in the game really i don't think so i mean again production side is super impressive the sets the visual effects the designs on the the infected the sound design and lighting it's all really strong and in service of like capturing the tone that they want to evoke in each moment right where you can have these like scenery of this destroyed world but nature is reclaiming it and then contrast that with a different more scary version of nature essentially trying to assert control over the world yeah that episode was just all focused on them three pretty much and then we lose test which uh you know if you play the game or watch this series without any of that knowledge i do think that comes as a surprise that test ties that early yeah even though obviously we knew what was going to happen i think that there's enough indication in the way that she's acting after that encounter to give to give away right like something's wrong yeah her entire temperament has changed but you see it gradually anyway right her coming to more and more sort of accept the situation and a willingness to push forward with it meanwhile it's just kind of the whole time just like i don't want to do this they give you snippets all right like him saying we're going home and she says that's not my home being of course i think she's referring to a wider context of this isn't home what's happened anymore like we're having to deal with it as a fucking nightmare and so there's this one shot here of uh something but obviously Joel just Joel's already said he doesn't fucking believe in it and he doesn't care about it he wants to just do what the smartest thing is whatever it is at the time but yeah he's written that off uh whereas she's now in a position where she's willing to accept it basically in order to fight basically her life right to give her to give her life some kind of meaning instead of it just being like 20 years of killing people and smuggling and just looking out for herself well i'm the uh i've never asked anything of you never asked you to feel how i felt i think it's just a bit of okay the relationship was never quite um as deep as maybe one of them wanted which i mean you got that in the first game as well kind of where it's like there's got to be enough here for you to feel an obligation basically the same thing here right yeah this is how we get a character like Joel to commit to this now is the life debt almost somebody who cares who he cares about has said you you're gonna do this for me like you got to you have to do it for me and now that it's just those two on their own it's like we're now is the opportunity to basically force Joel to develop that relationship whereas with tests there's a little bit of distance he can he can leave between him and ellie yeah and it seems like they put an effort in this episode to make uh make tests a little bit more likeable to ellie than joel so that it yeah it gets you get that sense of like oh if i had to lose one of you it really had to be her and then it's gonna be like well yeah and joel as the game goes on or as the story goes on i should say it goes on evidently but that there is that change right they're not because they encounter bill by passing through bill's town whereas now it seems like she sent them to go to bill specifically uh whereas in the game you go find tommy uh because he ran with the fireflies so he can help you i'm very curious how they're gonna adapt one of my favorite moments in the whole game is when uh got the chance to sort of ditch you know yeah yeah but yeah uh you know and even that opening scene as soon as i think it makes a really fun addition right because it's quite horrifying i guess uh well yeah it makes me wonder if it's like you said right uh it was either your rags maybe that'll be what we're getting each episode is more insight into what happened before and maybe that means because i imagine next episode will be bill that would be my guess maybe we'll get to see what happened with bill and then maybe see what happens with like henry and sam uh maybe if intro one was uh an intro to the science behind the theory almost of how it could happen and then it literally taking place i'd wonder if we're gonna get scenes of different areas falling apart maybe yeah maybe we'll see how like certain quarantine i could easily imagine that we might get a flashback on like the fireflies coming to exist as an entity would be cool if we had like a white house uh opening scene as well yeah like what what is the plan what are we doing here and maybe that's when they're like we're going to create these quarantine zones this is what we're doing everything outside of it we're abandoning yeah it's definitely seems like the episodic structure can be like really worthwhile in terms of um each episode focuses on like one specific thing or each episode we encounter a new set of characters who only stay for one or two episodes because it's joel and ellie is a consistent element but yeah all it is is that i'm i'm engaged and i'm interested to keep watching yes yeah they keep laying more and more foundations as well as arguably a more payoffs than a lot of tv shows get within their first two episodes and two episodes yeah because you you've only had tests for two episodes and it's like that was that was good work that was good work that they did with her yeah and props to the actress as well she was pretty good what else can you say you know i just i just feel like pretty much every element is either good or if not great i mean the set design is fucking fabulous yeah it's like one of the it's like among the most convincing green screens i've ever seen this the city backdrop it looks so much money and effort went into it it is so easy to accept that they're walking through this post apocalyptic city that it's like you legit forget that it's a movie set that can't be real it can't be real but those sets man like god damn they're so detailed yeah they worked really hard to raise off exactly yeah the practicality of a lot of the places they're in the it looks really really good loss of us episode two well can you say it was really real solid we'll see how the show goes further on thanks for watching everybody yeah we'll see you next time bye bye bye