 going to be filled with the spirit right now. There you go man of God. Like a trumpet. Like you got faith. Sat kate rabate. Some of you think you're praying tongues and when God tells you to. No, it's like healing deliverance. You cast demons out on heal the sick because it's a commandment. I think it's time that we go ahead and upset people. I saw someone early in the chast before we came on said that every time I talk about tongues that people get upset and they do. They do. What's also interesting when you see the response, you see the comments, they don't get biblical. They get upset, they get bothered, they get triggered, but they don't get biblical and that's the point. And I'll cover something I covered in a video that I just did regarding interpretation. You're going to find something that's also missing from their responses. And I was initially going to make this video. Just record it and then do an upload. I said, you know what, let me just go ahead and just do it live. Maybe there'll be some interaction. We'll see. But I felt like I just really wanted to just do this live. I also did something that I don't typically do, which is to tag the person. So I tagged the person. I hope he sees it. I hope he sees it. I hope he at least doubt if he'll respond, but if he would at least fix his argument. And let me just say this to this guy. I don't know. I haven't heard very much about him. Someone asked about him some time ago. I think they've asked about different people. I've never really sat and watched this stuff. This popped up and I'm thinking, wow, this is really this. This is just not smart. This is not biblical. You're making things up. And so I want to go ahead and jump into what this guy says. I guess this was at some sort of revival or something like that. So I want to put this up so that you guys can see this. This is bad. This is bad. This is one of the worst arguments. I don't want to say it. I'm not calling him dumb, but his arguments are dumb. They are ignorant. They are not biblical. You're making things up. This is why it's necessary for when a person gets before other people, you need to take time and learn the Bible, learn the scriptures, because you end up hurting other people. This person needs to seriously step back, take some time away and just read, read, study, read, pray, get around some other folks that are doing the same thing. Not folks that think the way you think because you're not going to go anywhere. When you get around a bunch of people who are also good at not reading and studying, then it's not going to help. It's like two kids getting an F in math. They're not going to help each other if they're studying together. So you might want to find someone else, someone that differs with you, to see if they can kind of sharpen you a little bit. But anyway, let's take a look at what he's doing here. They're all going to be filled with the spirit right now. Prayer warriors, come help me. Now let's just stop there. We got a grand total of two seconds into the video. This is the great, his name, Apostle Lorenzo. Apostle Lorenzo, whatever his name is. I'm sorry. Apostle Lorenzo. Is it Lorenzo? Whatever his name is. You know what? Let me see what his name is. I don't even know the guy's name. Richard Lorenzo. I should know better. We won't even deal with the Apostle part. But you're saying they're all going to be filled with the Holy Spirit right now? No. This is why it helps to just read the Bible. Young brother, if you see this, when you see this, hopefully you see this, that is that you don't get the Holy Spirit after you get saved. You get the Holy Spirit getting saved. The Bible tells us 1 Corinthians 12, 13, pretty easy to see that all believers have the Holy Spirit. So you coming back and saying these people are going to be baptized or filled with the Holy Spirit, that's biblically incorrect. All right, I'll leave. I'm going to give you guys a quick sermon. Are you all ready? All right. Tongues is an utterance. Okay. I'm going to give it to you guys logically. And this is the dumbest argument or explanation ever. I shouldn't say ever, but it's up there. Language, English. When you were one years old, did you know how to speak English? When you were one years old, did you know how to speak English? When you were six months old, did you know how to speak English? Okay, you did not speak, right? How did you speak with a babble, right? It's because your brain did not understand the pattern of language. What he's going to do is he's going to minimize tongues to something tatamount to this battle. You don't understand. First of all, any of you all that believe in tongues and believe that tongues are today and so forth, he just insulted you. He just told you that what you're doing is tatamount to the child babbling. Okay. Now, again, he's thinking that he can help them get it, but I want him to understand the Bible is clear. You don't determine if you get, let's say if those who believe this gift is in use today, what you cannot say is that you determine if you get this gift, you can't force yourself, nor can anyone else. Why? Because the Bible is clear. And I'm sorry, but one and the same spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as he will. Don't pass over these passages, ladies and gentlemen. It's the Holy Spirit that gives you this. So when someone comes back and says, core, you need to speak in tongues. One, I'll say I did. Two, it sounded just like you. Three, I realized it was nothing, but if you want me to speak in tongues again, it's not up to you telling me or you praying for me. It's up with the Holy Spirit. Read your Bible. It's literally there. He gives distributes as he decides, individually just as he wills, not as you will, but as he wills. It's in your Bible somewhere. Open it up and read. Don't repast it to get to just because you want to speak in tongues. By the way, this is a point that Paul is bringing up. You guys want to exhibit certain gifts. It's not up to you. It's up to the Holy Spirit because language is literally our organs vibrating, creating a sound, a frequency, a pitch. All right. We might be here three hours because he says language is literally our organ. I'm sorry, literally our organs vibrating, creating a pitch. That's literally the dumbest argument or explanation I've ever heard for language, be it English or tongues, what have you. Our organs vibrating. Can I, can I, I just want to remind that and play that to you. If you think about language is pretty crazy. What, how did you speak with a babble? Right? Yeah. It's because your brain did not understand the pattern of language because language is literally our organs vibrating, creating a sound, a frequency, a pitch. If you think about language is pretty crazy because right now, if I start speaking to you in Mandarin, you'll have no idea what I'm saying. Right? The problem with what he just said is if I start speaking to you in Mandarin, it's not that Mandarin is not babbling. It's the, it's an actual language and there are rules to it. As a matter of fact, before we go further, let's just go to the scriptures and let's see what Paul is saying. Paul says there are perhaps a great many kinds of languages in the world. And look what he says. And no kind is without meaning. If then I do not know the meaning of the language, I will be to the one who speaks a barbarian and vice versa. So, yeah, languages have meaning. Even if, even if you don't understand it, Mandarin or Japanese or French or German or English, they all have a mean. That's the whole point that Paul is bringing up. If you, if you, if you think you're speaking in these languages, they're supposed to be meaning to them. So his, his definition fails on so many levels. Right? Because your brain is not accustomed to that pattern. So when people say, oh, this sounds crazy when they speak in tongues, yeah, it does just like someone who doesn't understand Mandarin. It sounds crazy, but it's still a language. And it's not about the language that comes out. It's about, it's about the faith that's within. Nobody is about the language that comes out. If it's not about the language that comes out, then you can just say and do anything. That's his point. I've got faith. And I can say and do anything. I got faith, but I can say and do in, doesn't matter what I say. If I say anything, if I just, if I, if I just say gibberish, you can't get upset with me saying is gibberish or calling it gibberish, because if I just say anything, as long as I got faith, that doesn't matter what comes out. This is the part, this is the problem or the issue that Paul brings up in 1st Corinthians 12. He says, concerning these spiritual gifts, I don't want you to be ignorant or unaware. I don't want you to be ignorant or unaware. And he says that, therefore I make known, I'm sorry, you were, you know that when you were pagans, you were led astray to the mute idols, however you were led, therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the spirit of God says Jesus is a curse. It's like you can't by the Holy Spirit say that, unless you have the Holy Spirit say that Jesus is Lord, the same Holy Spirit, if you have it, will never cause you to say that Jesus is a curse. Well, who says that? Somebody who doesn't know what they're saying. Yeah, but I've got faith, even though what I came, what came out of my mouth, I had no idea what it was saying. Even though it, even though what I said said Jesus is a curse, I still have faith. The Bible says that when you speak in tongues, the Holy Spirit intercedes for you, right? Remember, I gave the analogy earlier. The Bible does not say nowhere in scriptures does the Bible say that when you speak in tongues, the Holy Spirit intercedes for you. Quick, somebody who disagrees, find that passage. Where does the Bible say that when you speak in tongues, it's the Holy Spirit that intercedes for you? There is no such passage. What he is doing, though, he is conflating or mixing up, confusing a passage in Romans 8 that is not about tongues. So let's go there. Romans 8, 26, in the same way the Spirit also helps in our weakness, for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings, too deep for words. That's not saying, speaking in tongues. As a matter of fact, the word that's used there is this word for these groanings, stenogmois. Stenogmois, it's an inward sign. It's not uttered. Matter of fact, some of your verses say with words that cannot be uttered. So it doesn't come out. There is no you saying something out of your mouth. That's not what's happening here. And so it's just, this is just, this is just, I want to say bad hermeneutics, but there's no scripture there for him to use bad hermeneutics or to exegete or ice-jeep. Now, if you wanted to, he could, you could not come up with a different understanding of what I just said about Romans 8. There is no alternative understanding because that's literally what the word says, whether it's being English or if it's in Greek. Either way, it's pretty, it's pretty clear to mine says too deep for words. In other words, no words come out. Some says with words that cannot be uttered. In other words, words are not uttered or the Greek stenogmois is an inward sign. It does not come out. Now, if all you can do when you're praying, because there's this belief that there's just praying in tongues and speaking in tongues. By the way, there is no such thing as a differentiation. You cannot find a differentiation in the Bible. Show me where the Bible says there's two types of tongues. There is no such thing. But if when you pray, you happen. I want you to think about this for a second. As a matter of fact, I want you to really think about what I'm going to tell you, especially you folks who speak or pray in tongues. If when you pray, you resort to praying in tongues. I want you to understand something. I want you to know why you do so. I want you to get an understanding as to why you speak in tongues so much, why you pray in tongues so much. I want you to know this. I wanted to hit you. I want you to think about this. Matter of fact, I want you to disprove me. The reason why you speak in tongues so much, the reason why you pray in tongues is because you don't have anything to say. You don't have enough reserved of God's word and your affection in your own language to say to Him, to speak to Him, to give Him adoration. You mean to tell me you've run out of adjectives to describe Him. You've run out of words to praise Him. You've run out of things to thank Him about. Is that what we're saying? You don't know what to say. Then you go to praying and you don't know what you're saying. You are saying something ignorantly. When I say ignorant, I'm not being mean. I'm saying unknowingly. The word that's used there, I know English, which means I just don't know what I'm saying, which means Paul says, how can you come back and say amen? I challenge you to differ on this. When you go, if all you do when you pray, you pray in tongues and you speak in tongues, maybe you might want to fill up your reservoir with English words that you can actually say almost not something off the table. Maybe you want to fill up the reservoir inside of you, words that you know. Maybe if you filled up your heart, your mind with words from the Bible, maybe if you had a greater, deeper understanding, maybe that would help. Maybe that would help. But unfortunately, this is what we see. Matter of fact, I was the same way when I used to speak in tongues or pray in tongues and so forth. Didn't know what to say. Didn't know much to say. Well, but Cory, you don't understand how it edifies me, how it just lifts me up. Well, then I will come back and say, you have no idea how me knowing what I'm saying, what I'm praying or giving adoration to God when I say in English, how much that does for me. I'll see your unknown words and raise you known words because I know what I'm saying to God. There's no doubt. And even someone that's around me can also say with me and cheer with me and say, amen, but not so with you living inside inside of you. Right. So he intercedes for you and prays through you. So literally, God is praying through you. Your organs are vibrating and creating a sound. Again, the Bible doesn't say that, that he's praying through you and it definitely doesn't say that your organs are vibrating, creating a sound. That's a new one. I never heard that, but your organs are vibrating, creating a sound. You may have to say that for a, what do you call it? A little sound bite. I may have to use that. The sound doesn't matter. It's the spirit of God praying through you that matters. You know, it's crazy. Witches and warlocks pray in fast more than most Christians. Witches and warlocks set up altars in their home and do sacrifices on the demons more than more than most Christians go to church. Now, apparently this guy used to be in the occult and caught himself a warlock. I got a question. This is a little bit separate, but how come some of the greatest champions for slaying demons and tongues and so forth, this sort of person came out of the occult? There's just too many people who were apparently demonized who come out preaching about being demonized. Who said they had a demon? Maybe we need some folks that actually read the Bible who are going to teach us versus someone who was just, who was confused and deceived to now start getting a mic and teaching. Maybe that, he's not very old, so it's not like that. He's got a whole lot of time in study and learning. So maybe that's something we ought to consider. Church, it's because the devil takes everything in the word, perverts it and brings it to the demonic kingdom so that spiritual activities can happen because God's laws, spiritual laws are for everybody. I'm just looking at someone. Someone says, because they know what to look for, but the Bible doesn't tell us that. We don't, you know what the Bible doesn't tell us to do? Figure out, study, or to know anything about the devil. Matter of fact, think about this for a second. How often does the Bible tell us about the devil? Think about that for a second, ladies and gentlemen. How often does the Bible tell us or how much does he talk about the devil or tell us about the devil? Not a whole lot. Describe the devil. We don't have a lot. No, we've got some scriptures but not a lot. And oh, by the way, we're not even told to, we're not told very often to worry about him just other than resist him. We're told to resist him, be alert that he's on the prowl. So our antidote for him is not to go and confront him but simply to resist him and to get closer to God. That's really it. God makes it so simple that he doesn't give you all these different things to master just him and his word. That's it. All you have to do is just focus on him. Now, he comes at you and he looks for the weakest because what do lions do? 1 Peter 5.8, he is a roaring lion just all mouth, seeking whom he may devour. Well, who? The weak one is the one at the back. How about if you draw closer to him then it won't happen because the Bible says resist him and he shall flee. I'm having trouble resisting him. Lord, that's what you pray about. Lord, I'm struggling resisting him. Help me. Bring me closer to you. This just makes sense. Like the Bible says, if you're a hard worker, you'll prosper. It doesn't say if you're a believer and a hard worker, you'll prosper. Anyone who works hard can prosper. Does that make sense? But when you're a Christian, the grace of God comes upon your life and gives you advantage. Everyone say advantage. So if witches and warlocks pray, they fast, they give, guess what else witches and warlocks do? They speak in demonic tongues. So witches and warlocks believe in tongues more than most Christians believe in tongues. The devil can't create. All he can do is take and pervert and destroy. Okay, he says witches and warlocks believe in tongues more than anyone else. Okay. Okay. If you say so. And kill and steal. He perverts. So tongues are real and so are demonic tongues. Do we ever see in the Bible anywhere any tongues and demonic tongues in the Bible? Is there ever an example of demonic tongues? So what we're doing now is we're making stuff up. There's demonic tongues. Show me, unless you're talking about what we're getting ready to see. Show me. We don't, we never see that. Monarch tongues come out of somebody when there's a demon in them. We don't got to do any of that. We simply believe in Jesus Christ, receive the Holy Spirit and he can pray through us things that we don't know. He intercedes for us and prays for things that we can't even understand. Because a lot of... Now, I want you to think about this though. Let's not forget the scenario here. I know we keep stopping and starting, but let's not forget the scenario here. He starts off by saying, um, you guys are getting ready to get the, uh, receive the Holy Spirit, which makes you wonder what do they have before, but then two, they're getting ready to speak in tongues. Here's my question. Do you ever, by the way, what I'm getting ready to explain to you, if the answer is no, you have your definition of unbiblical. Do we ever in the Bible see anyone being taken through a lesson about tongues before they get tongues? No, we don't. We never see anyone given a lesson on tongues before they speak in tongues. Here's another, so that's the very definition of unbiblical. What he's doing is unbiblical, not in the Bible. Un means not, not Bible. It's not in the Bible. Something else. Because someone's going to say, well, you got to have faith. He, matter of fact, he's going to say you have to have faith. And oh, by the way, he's going to contradict the Bible intentionally. What do you think about the Bible in tongues? He is going to know you're wrong. We'll get to that in a second, but everyone that spoke in tongues, we have a couple of occasions where someone spoke in tongues. We'll have one time where we know what they said, only one time in the Bible where we know what they said. But I asked his question over and over again. And this is a response to those folks who say, well, the reason why you don't speak in tongues is because you don't have faith. For anyone that disagrees, I want you to answer this question in the comments or in the chats if you want to, but in the comment section, if you think that the reason why I don't speak in tongues are the folks is because I don't have faith. Again, I spoke in tongues before. For some folks, I spoke in tongues before you were born. But I don't speak in tongues. I don't have faith. Okay, you got to have faith. Who in the Bible who spoke in tongues, those few times that we saw it, who had faith to speak in tongues prior to speaking in tongues? Can anyone just type in the chats or later in the comment section if you disagree, type in who in the Bible had faith to speak in tongues prior to speaking in tongues? I think the easy answer is no one, nobody, nobody. You would think with all this discussion that there's a whole lot of discussion, even about tongues in the Bible. There really is not. There really isn't a whole lot of discussion about tongues. But the times that it is, shouldn't we go off of the examples that we see in the Bible versus coming up with something that's not in the Bible? If it's not in the Bible, then doesn't that mean that it's not biblical, it's un-biblical? You got to get the fire baptism first. A lot of times, we're going through things that we don't even know what's going on. So instead of trying to figure it out, you know what we do? Now I'm going to ask you guys a question. How long have you been saved, man of God? A while? 20 years. Okay. We are saved by grace through what? Glory and grace. By faith, right? Now I'm not trying to make fun of this guy, but he threw up a softball. He said, how long have you been saved, man of God? But he said, we've been saved by, now we can all finish that passage, we've been saved by faith. Well, he said something different. And I'm not getting on him, but what I'm saying is I'm trying to prove a point. You can pull this over with people who don't know the scriptures. And what ends up happening is when you feed that to those people who don't know the scriptures that well, they grow up into it. And then as they read more and more and more, they take every other scripture to make it look like or fit into what they're saying. And so that's what you do. You find someone who doesn't know the scriptures. And I'm going to say this, people can get upset with me. But if you disagree with what I'm saying is because two things, you either don't know the scriptures or you want the scriptures to fit what you're saying. And you can't say the same for me because I was on the opposite side and I looked for scriptures. And when we have these conversations, what are the conversations that end up amounting to experience? Go back and go back and watch the video with Dr. Brown. It came down to experience. People are, well, we've got 100 years or so or 150 years or so of people experiencing tongue. And so that's now precedent. Okay. Right? Yeah. Okay. If I pray for someone for healing, it's by what? My faith. My faith. If I cast out a demon, it's by what? Faith. Okay. In Christ, what else? If I decide to fast, it's by what? Faith. By faith, right? Yeah. Faith. So faith is our own decision to follow God, right? In that situation. Guess what? You speak in tongues by faith. So his point is the reason why, or how you speak in tongues is you have to have faith. You got to have enough faith to do what this bit, huh? I've got to have faith that I can speak into, find the passage. Again, you cannot find a passage that says that. You have to have faith to speak in tongues. Whereas we have passage that says that these gifts are given or distributed by the Holy Spirit as he wills, not as you will, not as he wants to, not as you want to. People think that the Holy Spirit has to possess you to speak in tongues. Where in the Bible do you see anything about something possessing you to speak in anything or do anything? Everything in Christ is faith. Prophecying is in faith. Evangelism is in faith. So what makes tongues different than everything else? You know what it is? Religion. Religion bounds people up and keeps them away from that gift, that beauty. There's this desire to say the reason why you don't do this or have this or move this way or think this way or speak this way or follow this way or whatever this way is because of religion. Religion, religion is a bad thing. There's a lot of things that get the blame. The Catholic Church gets to blame for a lot of things and sometimes they should. Constantine gets to blame for a lot of things and then religion gets to blame for religion. So he believes that religion is a bad thing. Okay, we'll see. Beautiful gift. 15 minutes of tongues will dismantle that thing, that witch that was sent to do a whole bunch of stuff and you don't want to speak in tongues and you don't really want to open up your mouth and try. Bro, religion is dirty. Religion keeps people away from their calling for years. Again, fine. That's scripture in the Bible. Religion is dirty. We're going to look at religion in a second. But he said 15 minutes of tongue keeps those demons away. I wish, I wish that God knew what he knew. I wish that God knew what he knows. I'm sorry. I wish, I wish that he, that the Bible had enough foresight to say what he knows. 15, an apple a day keeps a doctor away. 15 minutes of tongues keep the demons away. Okay, let me look at, I was looking at somebody's comment, but let's, let's pull up something about religion. He says, he says religion is dirty. That's not what the Bible says. The Bible says if anyone thinks himself to be religious and yet does not bridle his tongue but he deceives his own heart, this man's religion is worthless. So he's not saying that religion is bad. He's saying that that religion that he has is worthless. Religion in and of itself is not worthless. It's a good thing. He says pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this. In other words, this is what you ought to have. And so he's giving an example of what good religion looks like. Religion is not dirty. That is an ignorant thing to say, my friend. And the reason why he says that, because someone told him that he heard that somewhere, he did not get what he got, what he said from the scriptures. Matter of fact, notice everything thus far that he says he has not gotten from the scriptures. He has twisted the scriptures, he has misunderstood the scriptures and he's going to say something like, do you have a Bible? What ladies and gentlemen, now we're getting close to it, but what he's getting ready to say, the question is going to be, does he own a Bible and did he read the Bible? Not all tongues are the same. I say it again. It's not about what comes out of your mouth. It's the faith inside. It's your heart. Hallelujah. So do any of you have questions about tongues? I'm going to say this last one because I just heard it by the Spirit. I thought that was funny that he said, does anyone have questions about tongues and the young lady raised their hands and because maybe who knows, who knows, maybe she's going to ask the same question that I would ask. I got a question. Where is any of this in the Bible? Maybe she's going to ask that. I don't know. I don't know, but I thought that was kind of cute. The book of Corinthians says you should have an interpreter, right? In that same chapter, Paul says if someone's prophesying, there should be two judges dirty. Now I want you to hear what he's getting ready to say. We believe that if there is, if there are tongues, there should be interpretation. There should be an interpreter. There is literally, according to the scriptures, there is this gift of interpretation. He is getting ready to nullify. And I know this is what he means because I went back and just, just looked at some other things that he said about tongues and about interpretation. And he is saying, no, we don't need interpretation. He's saying the reason why Paul asked for interpretation is because folks were getting out of line. So that's the reason why. But I want you to hear what he's getting ready to say. And then we're going to look at the scripture that he uses. Religion keeps people away from their calling for years. Not all tongues are the same. I say it again. It's not about what comes out of your mouth. It's the faith inside. It's your heart. Hallelujah. So do any of you have questions about tongues? I'm going to say this last one because I just heard it by the spirit. The book of Corinthians says you should have an interpreter, right? In that same chapter, Paul says if someone's prophesying, there should be two judges. The same chapter. He said that same chapter, Paul says that if you prophesied, there should be two judges. That's wrong. We're going to see that in a second. Look where he's going with this. How many times have you guys seen prophecy in a church and nobody judged the prophecy? Do you know what the judgment of prophecy is? It's like if right here there were judges, I prophesied to her, and then they judged to see if I was by the spirit, if I was right. How many times have you guys seen that in a church? Never. It's because Paul was bringing order to a church that was out of order. So he says the only reason for the interpreters to be there is to bring order to a church that's out of order. Now, Paul is trying to deal with a church doing things out of order, which is why he's writing this letter to get on them. But look what he says. He says in that same letter, Paul says that you must have two judges. Let's see what it says. What then is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, and here's the tone if you're saying, how come every time you guys come together, every time you guys come together, doggoneit, I'm putting Paul's speech in my language. Paul's saying doggoneit, how come every time you people, you daggoneit people come together, you have a doggone song and a doggone teaching and a doggone revelation and a doggone tongue? Somebody has a tongue. Somebody has interpretation. Let all things be done for what? For the building up for edification. Now look what he says. If anyone speaks in a tongue, a language, because the definition of tongues didn't go away, it should be done by two or at the most three. We don't have to worry about two or three at the most as many as we want can do it because back then it was said, because that was just for order. That was a church that was out of order, whereas now you can do it. You can have as many as you want to speaking in tongues because we don't have this order in our church nowadays. That was then all of our churches are in order. Okay. And each in turn and one must interpret. Now, one must interpret. By the way, again, what does the word interpret mean? And I think this is important. I think folks just look at words and they would rather go off of what interpretation has become to mean versus what it actually means. It is derived of the word the airmaneo. The word airmaneo comes from, or it gives us our English word, hermeneutics. It means to explain. And I remember well, I won't even say his name, but a well known doctor, PhD, who was wrong, said in our discussion that the word does not mean to explain. And we went so quickly that I didn't know, well, ladies and gentlemen, I'll go back to the screen. Now, I didn't write this software. Just look below me, look below my shirt and look what it says. Interpret means to what? To explain. It means to bring about an understanding, to explain. The whole purpose of this gift of interpretation is to explain so folks can know why, that there can be understanding. What did Paul say initially? I don't want you to be ignorant or uninformed. So there needs to be somebody, someone has to explain, to interpret. That's what it is. That's what interpreters do. They explain. What did he say? That's what he said. He says, no, we don't need that continuing. He says, but if there is no interpreter, he must keep silent. Notice what he says. If there is no interpreter, that person must be quiet. In other words, let me just put it in our vernacular. If there's no interpreter, shut up. That's what Paul says. Now look how he quaces to judge, or to judge this, must be silent in the church and let him speak to himself and God. Go back home and talk to God because we don't know what you're saying. Be quiet. Let two or three prophets speak and let the others pass judgment. He said, every time a prophet speaks, there must be two judges. This man literally gets it backwards. He said there must be, if someone prophesies, there must be two judges. He reverses the order. It's, let me put it back on the screen. Matter of fact, no. Let me put it back up on him and let's listen to him say it again. It wasn't just said and said and said. I prophesied to her and then they judged to see if I was, by the spirit, if I was right. How many times have you guys seen that in a church? Never. It's because Paul was bringing order to a church that was out of order. It wasn't just said and said, do not speak in tongues. Let's say you should have an interpreter, right? In that same chapter, Paul says if someone's prophesying, there should be two judges. So let's go back to Paul says when one is prophesying, there should be two judges. And it wasn't just he made a mistake here. When you go and find him on other, on other platforms saying the same thing, I mean, speaking about this, he says the same thing. There must be two judges. He thinks he's found a clever way to get past interpretation. Just read the Bible. Young fella, read the Bible. Read the Bible. Stop being in such a hurry to get up and speak before ignorant people who don't know it, don't know the scriptures so that you can look like you know something. You have no clue of what you just said. You said when someone gets up and speaks or prophesies, there needs to be two judges. How many of you all heard two judges get up and speak? Well, that's what the pastor says. Let two or three prophets speak and the others must pass judgment. Not one prophesied, then two judged. By the way, notice what he says, the difference between tongues interpretation versus someone bringing about a revelation. He says if there is no interpretation, the person must be silent. He does not come back and say, if there is no one to pass judgment or to ponder or to consider, that person has given revelation must be silent. That's not what he says. He says, let the two or three prophets speak and the others pass judgment. If a revelation is made, another who is seated, the first one must keep silent for you can all prophesy one by one so that all may learn and be exhorted. So he never says the same thing that stated to about tongues. This person is literally ignorant of the scriptures and he's teaching people who are far more ignorant about the scriptures that he doesn't know. It doesn't say that. I pray and hope he gets this message. I don't know if he'll respond. He's more than welcome to respond. He's more than welcome to reach out to him. We can have a conversation. But brother, you are so wrong on this. And the problem is, James says, don't let many of you be teachers. There is a strict condemnation. It'd be one thing if you actually read the scriptures and went to it. By the way, in this, in this he actually has a young lady to read the passage. She reads the passage and he still doesn't catch it. She literally reads the passage to him on her Bible on the phone and he doesn't catch it. That's a huge problem. But make sure everything is done in decency in order. I can't force you. If you don't have faith in it, there's no point in even being up here. I can't make... I can't force you. Listen to this. I can't force you. You don't have faith up here. If you don't have faith, there's no point in you being up here. Well, what is he doing? Well, now he's putting pressure on you. Now I'm putting pressure on you. Listen, I can't force you. I can't make you. Although I'm getting ready to force you. I'm getting ready to push you. Now, if you ain't got faith, you need to be up here. Who in the church wants to be known as a person that doesn't have faith? Who is that? Raise your hand if you want to be the person known for not having faith. But, oh, he's putting a guilt trip on these people already before he drops a flag and says, go. Make you speak in tongues just like I can't make you get saved. So, are all y'all ready to jump out in faith? Y'all ready? So, it's very simple. We're going to pray. Then I'm going to pray for you. You're going to close your eyes and you're going to begin to rapa kale basso. You're going to close your eyes and you're going to, by the way, how come you have to close your eyes to speak in tongues? How come you have to close your eyes to speak in tongues? The reason why this whole issue of interpretation is up because this is a point that they cannot deal with it. I'm going to come to that in just a second, but they cannot deal with this issue of interpretation. And you have to have a flawed view of interpretation to back up your flawed view of tongues. I promise you. You're going to get baptized in the Holy Spirit. Open up your mouth and pray. Now, if I'll get back to this foolishness, but I promise you, you're going to get baptized in the Holy Spirit. But again, the Bible tells us that you get baptized at the moment of salvation. 1st Corinthians 12-13. Pray. Le parra vaquia da basso. Rapa kale basso. Open up your mouth and pray. Some of you are whispering. Open up your mouth and pray. Sa para kata. Some of you are whispering. Get louder. He tells them to. I'm not playing the whole thing, but get louder. You're too quiet. Get louder. So I have to say it loud. So you mean tell me, if these tongues are legitimate, I can actually say it quietly? Interesting. Now, there are going to be those that'll say, well, Cory, these are two different gifts we're talking about. Speaking in tongues and we're talking about praying in tongues. And I say, go and look at the text. There's no difference in the words. First of all, you can't make that that statement without with the scriptures. And I said something early and people there go back and watch the video. Folks are bothered because I made the statement about interpretation. I made the statement about interpretation. Of course, that's not that's not interpretation. Well, let me just say it again. And anyone is more than welcome to come on. Anyone is more than welcome to come on. And we can have a discussion because I believe it's a valid discussion. It's about the scriptures. I said the only time that we see someone speaking I'm sorry, interpreting is Peter. Cory asked not Peter. Peter in Acts 2 is not interpreting. He's not explaining. Well, what is Peter doing? Because you mean to tell me that and I ask a question to people where in the scriptures where in the scriptures do we have someone giving an interpretation? Where in the scriptures do we show someone showing the gift of interpretation? Are you going to say none? There are no examples. So you mean to me all the other spiritual gifts we see we've got an example. But in this one interpretation, we don't have one example. We don't have not one example of that gift. Whether it be knowledge, whether it be teaching, whether it be healing, what have you. We have literally examples written in scriptures of that. But we don't have an example of someone of someone actually utilizing the gift of explanation. I said the gift of explanation. That's literally what the word the M&AO means to explain. We don't have one example. Well, my example is Paul. I met Paul Peter. So of course that's not Peter. Peter is not giving an explanation. First of all, what does how many of you all know what what what interpretation looks like? Does anyone up I'll put you guys on the screen. I want folks to be able to see how many y'all know what it looks like? What does when we say interpretation, does anyone have any idea what it looks like? What what what does what does interpretation look like? I'm this is the part that I'm waiting on. And I've talked to my to my charismatic Pentecostal brethren. What does it look like? Since my definition definition of Peter, what he's doing is giving an explanation is not correct, then fine. Two parts about that. One, you don't have a pastor say that what I'm saying is incorrect. Well, give me a pastor to refute what I'm saying. Plus, give me an example of what interpretation in the Bible looks like. Which pastors will you turn to and say, see Corey, this is what interpretation of tongues looks like? You won't have one. You won't have one. Well, Corey, how could you possibly say that what Peter is doing is giving an interpretation or giving an explanation? Maybe you want to go with the word explanation. Because in Acts 2, what do we see? We see them doing what? Speaking in these languages. In Acts 2, and the Bible says that they were speaking in by the way, let's just go there. Acts 2, he says, and these are the apostles and they were filled with the Holy Spirit. So going back to his definition, that where does the Bible say that the Holy Spirit takes over and makes you do? Well, here it is. Here it is. The Bible says that the Spirit, they were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other languages or tongues as the Spirit was giving. So once again, it's the Spirit that's doing so. And not you. You don't make yourself speak in tongues, but the Spirit is. He says, now he goes on to say that all of these different people of these different nationalities, not nationalities, but these different Jews of different languages, they were there. And they began speaking. These apostles began speaking to them in their languages and they heard them. What did the people that are hearing them? What did they hear the apostles say? Anybody know what they heard them say? They heard them say, they heard them giving God glory. He says they were amazed and astonished, saying why are not all these who are speaking Galileans? How is that we hear them in each of our own language to which we were born? And then look what he says that they said. Going down, he says, we hear them in our own language or tongues speaking of the mighty deeds of God. And they were all, and they all continued in amazement and great perplexity saying to one another, what does this mean? So they're hearing what? What did they hear the apostles doing? Magnifying God. How so? Do you think they were saying in in a Phrygia or Cappadocia or Mesopotamia that God is good all the time, all the time God is good? You think that's what they were saying? Do you think that's what they were saying? What were they saying? Were they just saying something generic? Were they, it was a generic God to wear head on which God, the God of Islam, which wasn't around, but maybe the Baal, Ashrith, maybe that unknown God, the unknown God is good. Well, here's how we can know what they were saying. What did Jesus say they would say? Did Jesus not tell them that when you receive the Spirit, first of all, I told him in John 15 that you'll testify of me. The Spirit won't testify of himself, but testify of me. That is Jesus. And then Jesus says, when you receive the Spirit, you'll be my witnesses. Where? In Jerusalem. Where are they at now? In Acts 2, in Jerusalem. And then also Samaria. And then also to the rest of the world, the most parts of the world. They are going testifying of Jesus. Does anyone disagree with that? I just want to be clear. Does anyone disagree with what Jesus said they were going to do and what they did? My assessment is they are giving the mighty deeds, as they say, as the mighty works of God, the Lord. What did he do? He died on the cross for them. They're literally getting the gospel because that's just what Jesus said they're going to do. Then after that, let's go and see what Peter does. Peter gets up and explains, hey, y'all, for you all that's wondering if something's going on here. No, this is what Joel said. And then after Peter saying what Joel says, what does he do? Tell me what he does from verses 22 to 37. I'm sorry, to 36. He gives them the gospel. He literally tells them the mighty deeds of God, which is what they're saying. So let's look at the picture. We've got people there, when we got the apostles that are there. They have the Holy Spirit. They begin speaking in these different languages. What do they say? Well, apparently something about the mighty deeds of God, the people who could hear in those languages understood what was being said. We know they could understand because they were saying what they were saying. Ladies and gentlemen, who didn't know what was being said? Don't we also have a group? Matter of fact, a larger group of people who had no idea what was being said. We do have a group of people, a large group of people who have no idea what was being said. Do they ever get any idea of what was being said? Just a question. You all tell me, do the people who are there sitting there listening, do they ever hear or are they ever told what was being said? Yes or no? I don't have a problem being wrong. But do the people that are sitting there, do they ever hear? Do they ever get the same message? Now, what you think about this for a second? Could you imagine these people have the Holy Spirit? They speak to these people, the mighty deeds of God. Then they turn around and give them the people who speak the same language as them. They give them a totally different message. Let that roll around your head for a little bit. That doesn't even make any sense. They give, no, they gave them the same message. They're telling, or Peter is telling them what they were told. How do we know? Because if we drop down to verse 37, after, and remember, just read what's stated. Read what's stated in verse 22 to 36, and then as we get to verse 37, therefore, let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified. Oh, remember, unless you must confess your mouth that Jesus is Lord. And verse 37 says what? Now, when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart and said to Peter and to the rest of the apostles, what shall we do? They didn't get the gospel. They, no, no, just the folks that spoke in tongues and heard, they heard the gospel. They heard the mighty deeds. But the, oh, no, oh, maybe we're saying that the people here that Peter's speaking to, they heard the gospel. But the previous group that heard in different languages, they didn't get the gospel. They heard the same thing. We can get extra information. It's like Genesis one and Genesis two. We get extra information about the same thing. We're getting information. Well, that's not, that's not, Cory, and I'm sorry, Cory, that's not what interpretation looks like. Well, what does it look like then? Help a brother out. What does interpretation look like? Give me your passes, this shows and tells me what interpretation looks like. Oh, by the way, if you can't find one, then again, we have this glaring spiritual gift that, we have a spiritual gift that accompanies the most used spirit. Because what spiritual gift so far do you all think is the most used in churches today? I would say, I would have to say tongues. So tongues use so much so, and we've got examples of it or talked about it in the Bible. But you mean tell me no examples of that other spiritual gift that accompanies the most used, probably the most used spiritual gift, maybe one of the most used spiritual gifts? The reason why you want to, the reason why you have to eliminate what interpretation is, if you can eliminate what interpretation is, then everybody can speak in a false tone. If there is no interpretation, then I can't. And I don't want to be the one that the Bible's telling me to shut up, because he says if there's an interpretation, then shut up, be quiet. I don't want that to be me. Now going back to this person, Richard Lorenzo, he says that languages are your organs vibrating. It doesn't have to have a meaning. He says that, yeah, it's funny. Your organs are vibrating. It doesn't have to have a meaning. It's the spirit praying through you, interceding when you don't know what to say, it's a spirit praying through you, interceding on your behalf. For that it must be just like... You don't have to have interpretation just like you have. You don't have to have two judges. Yeah, he says you have to have two judges when someone prophesies he literally gets backwards So you don't so you don't even have to have interpretation and That anybody who say is not everybody to say obviously is not it's not baptized in the Holy Spirit And so I can help you all to have this gift of tongues all you need is faith None of what he says those six seven things I just said are in the Bible He literally gives one of the worst and he takes his time That's the problem. He takes his time to go through tongues and gets the whole thing wrong My lord gets something right. Mr. Lorenzo gets something right in what you're saying and then we can talk, but it's hard This is this is this is blasphemous. This is blasphemous. This is blasphemous and I'm happy to get some new moderators if they don't get rid of this guy. I I Grew one new hair after you know, let me say I probably may have motion. Oh come on. Yeah I'm praying in tongues over my hair, but I wouldn't do that because I don't want my hair to grow What why would I do so do you how long do you know how long how much suffering how much growth? How much spiritual development how much maturing it took me to get to this point and You want me to go backwards? For getting those things which light which which are behind me such as hair. I press forward. That's right That's right. Oh gee stop hating Yeah Anyway got me all I saw that and I had to respond you or you are insulting the dignity of my head But I'm thinking if you're gonna say something brother Get it right Get it. Get it right if you're gonna say this is tongues Get some part get some part of it, right? You literally said The part about judges you had the girl to read it on her phone and you still didn't get it. You just Over your head. You don't care This is why I would tell anyone they should not listen to you Could could you be redeemed? Sure. Could your teaching be rehabilitated? It could you got to stop for a while You have to stop you have to actually listen to the word you have to read the word and make it say what it says I I promise you See the problem that I used to have and I know every last one of you tongue-speaking folks have the same problem is You want to be genuine? You want to be real? You want to make sure but you don't ever have to do I never have to worry about the genuineness of my heart saying things in English because I'm going off of what I read in English And Greek is well obviously but still the point is the point is I don't have to worry about being super spiritual I can't tell you how blessed I am by knowing what the word says versus in the past. I had no idea what the word says I was just faking it What about first Corinthians 14 to okay, we can't be here too long because I don't want to make it an issue over tongues Or at least about all this why I just want to go over that For the one who speaks in a tongue is it notice it's a singular tongue singular not plural why because there aren't different Let's just use the word gibberish. It's not very it's only one kind, but there's many languages But fine, but the one who speaks in a tongue remember Paul is rebuking the one who speaks in tongue does not speak to men Or let's put this way the one speaking tongue not man. He is speaking to but to God So you're not speaking to me You're just speaking to God and the reason and he said because only God only God knows what you're saying That's not a compliment ladies and gentlemen That is not a compliment to say only got own. I don't know what you say only God knows what you're saying Susan one second But the one who prophesies speaks to men for their edification and exhortation What does what are we supposed to do with our spirit? We are supposed to or through our spiritual gifts according to Peter according to Jesus according to Paul We are supposed to build up others so I Would say ladies and gentlemen be careful Be careful Man wait a second someone asked a question hold on one second hold on okay Okay, someone else asked that same question about an unknown tongue and by the way the word unknown is not there I'm put back on on stage mill stage one The word the shoes here for the one who speaks in some version myself unknown tongue More than likely that unknown is italicized means not there But the writers particularly the King James new King James writers are saying that this person is speaking an unknown language And no one knows what they're saying Someone says I reverse to I get the impression Paul is being ironic I think so I think he's being I think he's being facetious hyper You know, he's let all your do you're speaking this unknown language No one knows you're saying only God knows what you're saying But the person that brings revelation that particular person is Edifying the body and so pray for the person to bring up edification Remember as we get to verse 13 Is it 13? That the person who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret half explanation For for if I pray in a tongue my spirit prays with my mind unfruitful He wants us he wants our mind to be fruitful not unfruitful. All right. Let me let me okay I'll let me answer this question before before we leave out Maria says that My sister wants me to come to England to visit her she's supposedly married to a woman She knows what the word says but she says it only applies to that time in history. Should I go? You mean to just to visit her? I don't have I would have a problem with you visiting I don't think anyone would have a problem with you visiting a family member Who is who is gay who is lesbian? now celebrating it that'd be something different and You certainly should especially if the opportunity present itself to make your feelings known scriptually, but And obviously you know that what she's saying in terms of it being for that time. That's not true There's there's no passage that says it's just for that time It's been an issue from the beginning of Genesis all the way through so that's a pretty long period of time But should you go what I go to a family member mine is is gay And they asked me just come I'm just going just to just to be there Well, I can go and I can I can you know hang out, but I'm not I'm not supporting anything I don't have to How many other folks that are are LGBTQ that you're around That I mean that you're actually supporting them and promoting so you be you know You want to be careful and say listen sisters as long as you know that I disagree with everything that you're doing and so forth I think it's wrong. I think I don't deal with you But you still want me to come to name a man a man Otherwise can't do it But if it's just hey, just just want to we just hang it out I don't have a problem with that. I wouldn't I wouldn't you know, but just you just to make sure that hey I am in no way supporting matter of fact Get you a smart Christian church that says Jesus Christ his pronouns or I am go with that one Let's see This be the last question because I see that's his question Adrian Wallace as what what is Montanis? Montanis or Montanism is It was it was basically a heresy. It's regarding It's how they look at the Holy Spirit at the Holy Spirit kind of manifests himself really It's an improper view of the Holy Spirit and also that this particular prophet Montanist That that was receiving these prophecies There's there's more to it as a matter of fact as a matter of fact Is it I'm trying to think I was make sure I get my head straight. Is it Oregon or to tell you I want to say It's Oregon. I want to say it's Oregon who also end up becoming No, to tell you I'm sorry to tell you ends up becoming a mountainous and falling Which is funny because the Catholic Church speaks a lot about to tell you but they still brand him as a heretic or Not a saint or a father because of his falling of Montanism Who was this false prophet? so The Holy Spirit manifesting in him and so it no no so anyway, all right ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much I appreciate you guys being here. I pray and hope that this brother would actually hear what's being said and go back through his scriptures and Change it. I doubt it Typically they don't every now and then somebody would say you know what I think I was wrong and make adjustments And I can't tell you let me say this guys. Let me say this guys You don't know this. I don't talk about it a whole lot. I really don't but you would be surprised at the number of people who have been called out or through different back channels have Changed a lot of their views Some of them have been a little small views Taking videos down altered videos, you know deleted what have you Decided they're not gonna preach that or teach that anymore and Have told me or I've been told either by my second third parties They heard your video didn't like didn't like what you said or how you said it But saw what you said and made adjustments Amen It's not I don't necessarily need the credit But I do need you to fix your doctor at the end of every heresy or false teaching is a soul And so we need that and so I would pray that this person this brother was she doesn't you know what? Yeah, okay, maybe because what happens is if you start chipping away a little bit here a little bit here A little bit here a little bit here and get yourself to sound doctrine You it's almost like you you got there not kicking and streaming, but okay. I see a point in the move. Okay, I Won't tell you the people just yet Some of the people just go back and look and see some of things Well, I said about them and see if those videos or those beliefs are still up I won't tell you just yet maybe later maybe later But a lot of those there've been a lot of folks a good number of folks who have said yeah, you know what I Messed up on that when I can't get past it, but I'm not gonna admit That what he said about me was right and I want to admit that I was wrong. I'll just take the video down Okay, fine. We'll take a win wherever we can in the meantime guys Make someone hold their feet to the fire make someone show you the scriptures. Otherwise, it's just an opinion. Amen