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You guys remember his name Yeah, like I remember the I remember the commercials because they were so you know those ones that like, you know Catching the wave catch it if you can can catch the wave coke He was the first but he was fake right but the first virtual reality like character Although it wasn't virtual reality because it was late 80s No, it was like simulated like it was like preparing you for this is what like virtual reality is gonna be well Didn't they it wasn't it also on? Back to the future. Did they use him or they use like a console? Don't you remember back to the future with the commercials and he's and it's doing the picture of it You're Pepsi a coke. Yes, I think they were doing like a play on that. They totally were yeah Like that in the second one. Yeah, he actually there was a series it's when he's filling the soda Yes, and there was a series on this apparently there was a TV show it failed But Coca-Cola picked it up as a as an advertising whatever mascot But he had the plastic hair and they'd like kind of put like Prosthetics in his face to make them kind of look Plasticky yeah, and then he would glitch a little bit. So you thought it was it was pretty cool tell me who did better commercials than pepsi coke and Beard wiser. Yeah beer. No, it's beer like they just nobody they crushed back in the day I would love to interview somebody who's like pot was part of like one of those companies like and and that wave of marketing Look how look how iconic although I can think of one company that I my opinion had the most successful commercial of all time, but Coca-Cola made well, I kind of Christmas advertising iconic from the gates They branded Santa they made Santa came from cocoa and then they did yeah the one that we know than the polar bears And then the polar bears that was all coke. So the Santa we know what I mean You can claim that Budweiser with Clydesdales did that you don't see it You don't see it. Yeah, but you don't have a holiday around that like coke coke like literally when you think of Santa What you think of is the Coca-Cola version of Santa. Yeah, that's not what Santa was like before I remember I read that I think I'd like the Norman Rockwell paintings and everything to go with it Yep. Yeah, they used a lot of his drawings. All right. So here's what I think is the most successful commercial of all time still I Believe to this day played and never changed never it's this original commercial I also want to guess this that's really it should be original commercial We saw us kids and they don't change it and they play it every year and it's that same old ass And it's a cartoon commercial. It's a cartoon. Oh, I wanted to guess It's a is it prayed around a certain holiday or a certain time. Give us a little little hint here I'll give you another hint. It's an out. There's an owl Justin's gonna get it now Oh, the lollipop. Yes, dude. Oh, that's so Is it always the exact same it is okay, so here's another one I mean corona they basically have the like if you watch every year, they'll just promote the same exact commercial ever like with the With the two palm trees. Yes, and the music and that's it and it's like miles away from ordinary Must work, yeah, like they just keep promoting That's what it's good is when you remember a tagline that is just like so right like I'm making a big corona guy But I remember that tag how how long is it gonna be before we see like weed commercials, you know, I mean on TV That's gonna be are they going to or they'll probably do the same thing they do with cigarettes Well, they won't ever allow it. We already learned that lesson with cigarettes. Alcohol got got away, didn't they? They got some lobbyists. It is kind of interesting that alcohol hasn't got the same Ramifications or restrictions as cigarettes. Is there rules for for hard alcohol commercials versus beer because you see a lot more beer commercials That's a good question. I think no, there's no there's a lot of hard alcohol Hard alcohol doesn't like a like it's kind of sideways. Yeah, it's like they'll do like they're doing They're tied with the NBA right now who would hard alcohol drink is the NBA and they do like this whole thing It's you know reminds me of perfume commercials Where it's like it that you don't even talk about the perfume or the cologne. It's just nice like the experience. Yeah Yeah, weird. Yeah, you know, so maybe that maybe it has something to do with that like you can't maybe there's I don't know. I can't wait to see the weed commercials. Oh, it'd be like hey, sometimes you just want to forget Forget some guy just like tinkering on his guitar. He's like, whoa, it sounds hella good Sometimes you want to be inspired I Don't think they're gonna. I don't think I don't think you'll ever see I'm a better man probably not because of weed Yeah, well, I mean, what are your bets on that? Like if you think that they would let I don't think don't I think because it's it'll Be a new market. They're gonna slap crazy ass They will because it's already it's close enough like Because alcohol has been around for so long that they were already ingrained and everything, you know what I mean So it's totally different. Do you guys have favorite brands of commercials like commercials that you really liked it? Like they do it's such a good job. You know who like how about this? What companies or brands like change? Advertising like so we talked about like obviously beer. They were on the front line of some of those commercials But like I have one old spice. Yeah, I was just good. That's great old spice and axe When they first came out because it was like what's every cruel bizarre and wild I'd like to agree with you, but then why are we on a horse? Oh And then like they just kept doubling and tripling down on the formula and it was like you'd get a guy You know kind of talking about something all of a sudden you peel back and then he's like on a horse What is a great course? You know somewhere else. He's a minotaur. Skittles. Skittles did that too. Yeah Yeah, but they led the way though, right old spice led the way with that type of commercial I'd say the other one is kind of like axe right axe body spray when they started the dirty balls one Yep, how can guys clean their balls so that they're more enjoyable to play with well There's finally a tool that can really get the job done The axe detailer cleans your balls Everyone that first came out that went like brilliant super viral brilliant. Yeah, those are those are bones Okay, I was reading some really I went down the rabbit hole this weekend on Glutathione the master antioxidant so obviously we You know one of the companies we work with is live on and they have a really good liposomal glutathione and when we were all sick with the Virus that shall not be named. Yeah You know, we all used it like crazy because I read studies showing that there's a very strong Correlation between low glutathione levels and severe respiratory illness. Anyway went down the rabbit hole on glutathione It actually has proven performance enhancing effects. What how so? builds more muscle reduces muscle damage and improves mitochondrial function or ATP production So it's actually a good performance based health supplement as well Well, what does the study look like was this over a long period of time? Was it a decent group? It was a resistance trained group So they were already resistance trained So they weren't brand new and they divided up into two one group placebo one side did Glutathione and the glutathione Showed greater gains and strength performance reduced muscle damage So it's they showed it as a is a successful performance enhancing supplement I've been taking it religiously. Yeah post workout. Now one thing is there's a difference between liposomal glutathione and Traditional glutathione in the past glutathione supplements were it was a waste of money because It got destroyed as you would consume it and the only way to really get glutathione levels up was through IV So you had so all the studies were done on IV Then they came out with liposomal where they encapsulate the glutathione in a liposome, which is essentially a fat Which protects it through the digestive process and then studies show that it definitely raises glutathione levels in the blood Like IV would for example, that's interesting I've just been taking it just as a preventative measure because so many people around me right now are sick and I'm just like I gotta like do all the things, you know to keep it at bay, but I had no Yeah, I would have never have thought as it like it was a performance and I didn't either but I but it is I was just like I said, I went down the rabbit hole and I saw so should I add that because I do the same case when I get like You know, everyone's getting sick around me. There's a few things that I start to do I try and start to take the the zinc. Yeah, I started taking that I do the green juice with organifi I start pumping that up and start be consistent with that. You think I should add the glutathione to that Strategy, yeah, because it makes sense or yes because what you don't want to do is play catch up If you get sick and then try to get glutathione levels come up because in that case you probably want to use IV Glutathione you want your glutathione levels good going into illness So it's probably a good idea to supplement especially if you work out hard you place your body under a lot of stress It's a good idea to so I'm doing zinc green juice and then now also the glutathione Is there anything else you would add to that mix on a regular basis? Yeah, well like just like just say this is what I do because I'm not sometimes I'm inconsistent with taking some of that stuff Yeah, obviously there's times it's like okay if there's ever a time that I want to make sure I'm good on all my about to get right where there's lots of people around you. They're sick, right? So dude isn't it interesting after? Halloween how all of a sudden we get you know sort of this bring up like flu and all like the seasons come It's everybody's everybody's together and then you add Yeah, it's late and like it's just all the habits that you know foster like a lower immune system response I would add Adam depending on what your vitamin D levels look like I would add that that's a daily for me Okay, that's one of my that's one of my dailies no matter what yeah, then you're good I have to and then the other stuff you could throw in if you get sick Then you start adding things in but those are good on a regular basis. Yeah, you know based off what I read speaking of organifi Those go I've been telling about those gold juice lattes that I'll make for just delicious. Okay, they're better than the pumpkin spice lattes at Starbucks No, so the pumpkin spice lattes from Starbucks are just way too sweet. It's like drinking candy Organified gold juice it's got some sweetness, but it's not too sweet and if you make it with almond milk or macadamia nut milk and You add your coffee to it, you know first first froth it up with the gold juice then throw in the coffee It's delicious, but then you get the the benefits of the the nice balanced caffeine because of the because organifies got those relaxing compounds It's a great combination. I mean, it's tasty. There's no doubt. I just you know, it's just kind of funny I don't know if you can compare it. Yeah, it's a strong comparison. You know, thanks to each other, but it is good Definitely gonna fire some people up for sure. You know what people who like to drink candy. Maybe that's what it is, right? You're that's who you're dealing with you ever have one of those those ones from Starbucks I swear it tastes like diabetes too much dude. They it's like the first time I've drowned in sir Have you guys ever tried the sweet tea at McDonald's before I tried that? So I loved Right now like as an adult I like just regular tea. I don't like anything in my tea as a kid I loved sweet tea. My mom used to do it, you know make her own tea at home where she leaves the thing outside You know, let's the Sun like basically, you know, what do you call it steep that is it steeping is She would do that and then we would sweeten it up ourselves and I love sweet tea So you just warm it up and just pour sugar as you pretty much wave it pretty much So, you know, I had this this was a while back spent a long time But it was the first time I had ever had McDonald's sweet tea. I had this weird crave You don't even get weird cravings for like kids something you did I drink tea all the time, but I haven't had sweet tea in forever. I'm like and I heard McDonald's has a good sweet tea So people would tell me that. Oh, yeah McDonald's sweet tea is amazing. Oh my god Disgusting it's too much. Have yeah have some tea with your sugar It's unbelievable. It is like they put cups of sugar in there. I know gross In fact, I wonder maybe you can look up the calories on what a large sweet tea at McDonald's runs because it tastes How many grams of sugar do you think is in that right now? Just get out of large I'm gonna take I'm gonna say oh more than that. I'm gonna say 80 80 grams of sugar. That's how I'm a guess See how close yeah, let's see what 5080 Mountain Dew has diet. I just won't throw that out there diet Mountain Dew disgusting 100 sick. Oh, no, that's a hundred sixty grams Look at the nutrition facts that click on that. Let's see how many grand no way It's only a hundred must they must be using like a neutral like a sweet and low then yeah What does that say Doug how many grams of sugar 38 grams? Wow? It's almost like I know everything. It's I was so so close Okay, that's I see I don't even believe that because it has to say are they using both though regular sugar and then like an Artificial sweeter to boost it. I it tastes like it has to be yeah both Now I can't believe that's a 30 ounce serving. That's massive. Yeah, I don't I don't buy that Yeah, but still I don't buy that 40 grams of sugar in that it's gonna taste like it's gonna taste super sweet I still don't believe that I really don't I think it's sweet It probably starts out as that then the employees are just like, you know what not a bad point I wonder how they actually regulate it. Exactly how close are they? Yeah, cuz they got to do the mixing and everything there Yeah, you know what I used to get craves for the only thing at Mount McDonald's was the soft serve This one's a little more accurate. Maybe it's five hundred sixty calories more like sweet tea no ice and let me get the 141 grams of sugar Right, that's more like wow dude. That's more like that is yeah Hey, you know that first one shot that first one's made by McDonald's, bro That's not you know that first ad that you pulled up. No, that's actually not true. This is actually for McDonald's Oh, so this is McDonald's the other one Some other company, but it wasn't that is more it see it tastes like that right there Hey, maybe the other one had so much ice. There's like It's all just water just water dude gross. That's ridiculous. Hey speaking of partners that we're working with I think it's safe to talk about Some of our investments that we do and why we invest in certain companies. We and I think we're all an agreement, right? We might be investing in in zbiotic. Oh, yeah, no, it's after talking to Zach, which is a cool I think Doug you're releasing that on on Wednesday Wednesday or yeah It's actually this is so it's gonna be actually prior. I know Proceeding this this episode. So if you're listening you have a chance to have already heard it or go back and listen to the interview that we did with Zach which a Couple things one dude such a smart guy who comes off. There's like super down to earth Yeah, you still hang out with him and he's not totally your head I yeah, I remember I remember when we were first having them on like Sal's been concerned was like Is he gonna know his stuff? Like are we gonna get somebody who's talking about the science and something? They don't we've had that experience. I don't know if we shared that with the audience before we brought We had it. Yeah, we didn't share it. We had a cannabinoid expert come on Adam and I both knew way more Oh, dude, what are you doing right away? I was like, oh my god. He's just literally sit as a bud tinder It's a fucking stoner hipster kid for a bud tinder trying to break down the science for us. I was like, oh my god This is so bad. So no, but Zach Zach knew his shit and boy was it fun to bro It that science of genetically modifying bacteria to perform to do specific functions. Oh, it's fascinating It's not just fascinating. It's Revolutionary. Yes. Yeah, but and and what they focused on is on the simple stuff, right? So zbiotic genetically modified to produce a compound that breaks down acetaldehyde, which is a negative byproduct of alcohol It's one of the reasons why you feel like absolute garbage the day after so you do zbiotics before drink alcohol Wow, I don't feel nearly as bad, right? But that's a very simple thing and they're focusing on the simple stuff first as the science gets more advanced They can do more because at some point you might be able to genetically modify bacteria to produce more serotonin for you or dopamine or Anti-inflammatory, you know things or whatever, which is far more complex, right? Very fascinating so many different directions. Yeah, they can go with that technology Oh, yeah when he when we said after we turned off the podcast after we stopped we were talking to him more and we're just like can we like invest we only invest in companies that really blow us away and Luckily they were open for it. Well, since you let the cat a bag with talking about that stuff But we haven't shared this on the the podcast Oh, I think you should do that and it include Felix Gray and zbiotics since those will be the the two next rounds that were involved in So of if you include zbiotics you include Felix Gray and then the other four companies Which are your favorite each of your favorites? And which do you think are the most risky as far as what we've invested in? Obviously, we wouldn't be in it if we didn't believe in all of them, but what do you guys go? This is this is my champion horse. I don't know right now zbiotics pretty high up there with Luna I think it's you top one of the risks is Always how is the company run because they could have a crazy product an incredible groundbreaking product But yeah business is business and if it's not run well, yeah, then you're screwed So that's always the risk but you say that but one of the things that I think that Hedges that with zbiotic is they have a patent. Yes, so let's say You know operationally they they don't know what they're doing with having a hard time. There's no competitor Yeah, there's no competitor and the bare minimum they could sell off sell off their technology Yeah, they're technology. No, I like zbiotics for the science. I would say Element tea as a consumer product. I get really excited about I see that being a major player Especially with like ready to drink you should have listed everything first, right? So list all the all the companies there's Luna, which is the physical therapy to your door company And they have the technology that's similar to uber and that's that's a Billions and billions and billions of dollar market. So that was pretty incredible Well, they have the actual one of the executives from uber is now on their board covered by insurance that one I think is probably the most guaranteed for it's just gonna take a while. Yeah to get Everybody involved with that. But yeah, I would say would be the other ones zbiotics is also pretty exciting I like serenity kids a lot that markets also very challenging But I don't I also see them as the best in their particular space. Yeah, Pathwater is interesting Pathwater is another one we're invested in by the way just got whole foods 450 of their like 500 locations now What's exciting with Pathwater is if state and local governments Continue to push this agenda of getting rid of plastic bottles more recyclable reusable Then they'll sign contracts and exclude plastic bottles then and they've done this in a lot of public schools and stuff That could be huge that one is determined in my opinion a lot of that's gonna be based on the politics If the politics move in that direction They'll crush if not then it might be a little more challenging because it's water water is very challenging kind of you know product And then I leave anybody else looks gray Felix gray. I'm if you on and I know we still haven't invested in them So we'll see because I there's science is incredible. It's a amazing product in that market But I want to I still want to look okay, so now that you you went over them real quick for the audience What's your number one pick and then which do you do you consider the least or the most risky for you the most risky Most risky, and then what do you say is your champion horse? That's all pick That's all pick one and then put it on there so we see for right. Yeah. Yeah, that's be fun Why not I think it'll be fun to talk about it as we as the company's progress top two I would say are for me Luna and elementy. No, you can't do touch you. I said one you get to pick one champion That horse dude. Yes one champion horse and one and Luna number one Okay, Luna's number one for you and then most risky. Well, I don't want to say Felix breaks We haven't invested in them yet, so we haven't decided. Oh, you're still gonna count them I don't you count them. I put them at the most risk. Okay, so you think they're most risk. Yeah, Justin so my Bottom I'll start the bottom. I think serenity kids even though I love, you know their product and everything I just feel like that's a hard one to break through And then I go zbiotics is my top horse. Okay. Yeah, Doug. Yeah, I'm gonna go the same as Justin on that Oh, yeah, absolutely the thing about Luna as much as I love the company is That they're gonna have to be able to get enough therapists to Meet the demand so that when people order it there's somebody there for them But but they are backed by insurance companies and that's huge the medical market is not a well This is great market. This is great. This is great because we're evenly split here because I'm with Sal on Luna Luna is definitely But I am I'm with Justin on serenity kids being my my most risky. I think so I like I like want them to push through but it's a hard one. Yeah, but I like Felix gray even better than serenity Yeah, Felix gray and they did a really good job of being like one of the leaders In the blue blogging space. I know that they're connected. I believe with Apple Google. They're in the GameStop now So they've they've they've partnered up with some good companies already man pump, you know, they know what they are doing with that So they yeah, that's right They've all done that. Yeah. Yeah, they're all they're all smart. Obviously. We all want to be well But I'll tell you it's a pretty like what's his name Kobe invested in 2004 just for people to understand, right? You can invest in a company That's sold publicly, right? So the stock market or you could be an early investor more risky, but the return is bigger Yeah, Kobe put six million turned into six million into Body armor the the drink that you get, you know, it's at the Safeway or whatever the sports drink Six million that was in 2014 2021 his estate got their return because they exited $400 million which you I think you said and it might be correct He might have just made more money on that. Did he confirm it is confirmed that That he did in his in his entire entire career. What about really? Oh, I don't know if they counted all of that But I do know that what'd you say his shoe deals and everything else. Oh Maybe not if you count all that but I mean it would be impressive if he just outperformed his contracts I mean somebody he was at one time. He had to been the highest-paid player in the NBA So and he I'm several contracts. I'm sure he had Doug. Would you look up? How much money did Kobe Bryant make in his career playing basketball? Yeah, and if you can find just for what he got paid because yeah the shoe deal I'm sure would that would might push it over But it would be impressive alone if he literally made more money off of that investment then he did off of Oh, yeah, anything else and it was yeah, so it was six million I was reading that again because I think I said it wrong the first time I think I said it was one I thought was one or two million before but it was it was six million dollars And at that time I want to say that he that made him 10% owner Well, I mean imagine how do we have the opportunity to invest in? Viori, I know when we first got with them 680 Yeah, that's in that's with endorsement. Yeah, if you pull endorsements out he made more Wow Yes, wow look at that. Well, so 70% of their He made like essentially 70 more than 70% of His total earnings in one investment You know if you do the math when you figure out the what a frat It's only six million to him because it sounds like a lot of money I mean 40% of all the money he made put it this way for a little less than 40% of all the money He ever made in his entire career ever one investment did that? Yeah, that's crazy Yeah, all the work and effort he took to make 680 that was just one six million dollar investment I wonder how much influence he had to me I mean because seeing that and then it just makes me feel like I'm definitely gonna lose my argument with, you know, tonal because of Because LeBron James is an investor in them now, too So it's like, you know, if you're that if you have that much power as a celebrity and you're invested in the company You're doing everything you can to help endorse it and to push it. So I mean not just you're a mega celebrity Yeah, like your world famous like everywhere Yeah, but you still need to have consumers still need to You know back it up like body armor There's so many people that will buy it just because of his face and not only that but they're the company with tonal was already Showing positive trends and signs before well. I want to see what's happening now. Look you see what's happened to Peloton They tearing well tanked. I mean there's stuff that went wrong. Yes. Yeah They couldn't meet the man and there were supply issues and just and then people fell off the treadmill or whatever And it's just tanked. Well, I heard the latest drop had to do with the now the news that came out with Pfizer That's what I heard. I heard that the so Peloton was taking a shit from all the things that you were saying already That was the first hit But the net the next big fall was when that news just came out with Pfizer with them being able to have the the pill That's supposed to you know supposedly get rid of all the code. You didn't read that you had to have read That what did I have to do Peloton? Because people aren't thinking they're gonna be the reason why Peloton did so good is because this idea that we're gonna be stuck In our homes and we're gonna have to do exercise at home And so this idea that Pfizer's come out with some sort of a pill that you can take Well, that's what I'm saying So people are not gonna work out at home like everybody thought I mean how's that gonna affect the company like tonal? Yeah, remember the cost of getting one of these electronic fitness devices is Pales and compared so much cheaper to go to a gym now I know they say there's so many more features But the average fitness consumer would buy it for fitness and then the features well That would make you right because you that's what I said you made the you made the The comment in that interview that you know Wait a second Did you guys make your huge surge in the pandemic like and so that would mean that if it got hit that hard just From some Pfizer news like I'm saying that would tell you that that that spate or that Company is very very volatile with with whether people are gonna be working out Window, you know for a lot of these at home the type companies that are coming in and thinking it's gonna be long term Maybe it's not as long as they thought hey, you know, I gotta tell you guys speaking of fitness So you guys know I've been talking about using the sled for a while and have a lot of fun Yeah, so I don't know if it was you guys it might have been you guys Adam gave my son this like a little walker thing Yeah, that's from us. Is that from you guys? Okay, so it's like a little walker thing looks like a sled And you can adjust the wheels to make them a little more challenging or easier friction on them Yeah, my okay, my son is Obsessed bro. We went I took him outside in it right I took a video of it. It'll be up on the youtube channel We we put him outside in it and he literally Went all the way to one end of my backyard and back for Like non-stop 45 minutes. He's remember. He's he's one years old Yeah, and he's just and he's grunting and he's gripping it and he's grunting and then when he tries to turn It sounds just like you when you work out My heart was so Watch and he's just And I'm listening to him like he's he's obviously tired and pushing himself I'm like, why won't he stop and I tried to pick him up and he like kicks his leg And then I put him down and he's like he's determined. Yeah pushing this thing around the backyard Oh, that reminds me, dude I mean I saw our season ended and it was like a catastrophe there at the end. I won't talk about it, but um I want to hear a little sensitive there. I want to hear about you tackling all the kids again Oh my god, I didn't talk about that last no dude He just sent us a picture with all your all your scrapes and bruises. I know some of them listen to the show So I'll try and try and do justice But we like this side at the end of one of the practices when the last practices We're just gonna have some fun and and the coaches were kind of lined up all over the field and the kids were like at the goal line and We we threw the ball and basically the whole thing the premise is that you got to go Try and tackle the coach and you know get the ball And so like we're trying to basically create an opportunity to condition them by You know passing it and run all over the field with it away from them and stuff and their goals are trying to get you Yeah, and so of course inevitably this turned into kind of one of those things where you know One kid like tries a little too hard like ripped the ball out and I'm like no no no no you're gonna rip the ball out So I decided you know like to you know take a few of them out and then it got a little bit more aggressive after that Tackled some kid like smash them on the ground and then this one kid They had like this kid like I got the ball And I threw it away and then this kid kept coming At me to try it couldn't stop and so I just like you know kind of hit him He flew you know a little too far and I was like well I definitely like got a little carried away I Swear we used to play a game just like that when we were kids. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah smear the What a terrible you you insert that last part Yeah, yeah, you know what I'll take Doug you gotta hear this Adam and I were sitting out here Justin's out there He's getting a haircut. We overheard him talking to Vicki, right? And he's talking about like yeah, you know coaching these kids He's like yeah, you know these kids don't really have like a dark place where they can Gression out of you know, and I'm like Well, I had a full-on conversation That's like you need a dark life is too good kid You got to have like a little bit of darkness inside you that you need a channel You know in a safe setting where it's okay. It's appropriate like let's express this you know in a healthy way But anyway, so the reason I brought it up is because I already constructed like I just wrote a plan Handed it off to the AD You know beforehand to make sure because he's running these kids in a class for weight training And so like the what we got buy-in from was like doing tests And so he started to kind of like run these kids through like a 40 time and you know The shuttle run and like some of these things that were like tangible that like they're like, oh, what did he run? You know, what time did he have and it's like all of a sudden then I started get buy-in And I'm like duh should have had these going like the whole year and having them pit against each other It's like I have to engineer that competitiveness So I put it like in some of the plans. I had some fun Kind of tests and I was like constructed one idea was like for Fridays. We're gonna do this like What's it called when? You basically it's not drag racing, but you're like tractor pulls So so and I'm use sleds for that So you stack it as heavy as possible to where you could barely even grind your way forward And we're gonna see how far they can move like the heaviest like stacked sled and you know stuff like that where it's like Competitive, but it's not CrossFit where it's aimless. It's like has purpose behind it. So Take that CrossFit Yeah, it's very very much more thought, you know goes into that. That's awesome. Yeah Coach Andrews connect. Can I you know try out for the team? I don't know is your dad an alcoholic? Yeah, he is come on come on board. You had any kind of abuse that you can use and shuttle When you were a kid Football's not the sport for you dude. Go play tennis. Did you guys? You just insult everybody You're gonna have lgbtq after us Hey Did you guys see the the news that happened with the Travis Scott concert? No? Oh, yeah, weren't people trampled and squished to death. I thought some people were getting stabbed like it was yeah I think several needles several people died. Is that right? Somebody was going around and Pricking people with a needle and then they're dropping and passing out and like some people died like a security guard got like poked in the neck and Passed out and then he got to get revived by some kind of like adrenaline So the needle obviously had something poisonous in something. Yeah, that's what they're And I guess well Travis Scott whatever he got a lot of heat because he was still singing he's still singing He's looking at I've heard both sides, right? Some people are like listen when you're on stage like that lights are in your eyes Crowds stuff's going on so like that you can't tell and you're a professional So you just keep singing you don't think it but then you have other people like that's crazy It's bullshit. You can I made it worse. You know if it's a big crowd. Hey, what's going on? And then all of a sudden everybody moves in and it's such an interesting thing because eight people died Wow 14 to 27 according to sit. What's that say? Yeah, how many people in the crowd 14? It might be a small percentage group mob mentality How does that have the impression of the rug? It's like it was point zero zero one percent of people If it's getting back. No, they am my bad No, that's that's insane. So this reminds me of was it the rolling I want to say The Rolling Stones had a concert in the 60s I think it was the Rolling Stones and they hired it was in San Francisco Maybe Doug will remember this and they hired the Hell's Angels as security I've heard about so the Rolling Stones did a big-ass concert and hired Hell's Angels to be security And they just beat the shit everybody beat the shit out of people who are out of line just fucking hammered people and you And while they're up on stage doing them, you know doing their act or whatever Wow They had to stop them. Hey, no, don't what are you doing now? And they just got it was a whole no I mean, this is tragic. This reminds me of I don't know if it's great white I think was the band but it was like indoors and all of a sudden a pyrotechnic kind of error Nobody could leave fast enough in the whole place when in flames and people died, you know from the fire It was the ultimat concert. Oh, wow 1969 actually they killed somebody in the in the audience. Yeah, it was the Rolling Stones Jefferson airplane in Santana and I don't know who thought it was that idea who do you guys want a security dude? That's how you had bad ideas I mean whole Woodstock 99 thing or you know, you brought like it's supposed to be peace love and whatever and they brought These metal bands, you know corn limp biscuit and like I think Metallica even but of course like you know limp biscuit like took the biggest black eye from that whole thing because I Guess like if I can go back What happened was like one of the guys like and there's such an energetic electric band you know and so he just gets the crowd going crazy and part of a piece of like the stage onto the side like somebody grabbed it and like made Like this board where people could like crowd surf on top of yeah And so then he gets on top of it and it's kind of encouraging the whole thing and then everybody starts ripping everything down and then it just turns into this like Riot and in mob mentality is well studied and it's fascinating psychology If you ever want to like learn about the weirdest in human psychology read about mob mentality Normal people will do the most crazy things really turn into animals You don't need to read anything. You just need to have your eyes open for the last two years Yeah, I know. I mean we're literally happening. Yeah Examples that all over the place on on both sides. It's for good. It's crazy. Yeah, let's just not use our brain You know and then just go with the the mob. Yeah, so I brought them up because they just came out I love like a comeback story and I had heard from somebody on my like ask me anything They're like, oh, did you hear the new limp basket album? I'm like, is it good. It's great. Yeah, it's really good Really? He's toned down as great. It was like really great. I was like pump He messaged me now. He got me hella fired up. I had an edible Oh my god There's this one song called pill popper and it fucking slams. It's it's great. Hey speaking of music I was listening to Beastie Boys this morning working out. Okay Do you know how many songs would have been canceled from the past if they were aired them today like? Girls by the Beastie Boys. I know that would be gone. Well, they talked about that in the Which one did you not see the documentary still? I still haven't seen you gotta watch that They took it. They took a left turn from that. That was like the whole engineered Version of Beastie Boys. Like, you know, they're doing that all for that record company And then they decided like we don't want to be those douchebag party guys. Oh boy. Let me tell you That was such a cool Document show. I've never seen one done like that the way they did it They did it to where they were like narrating right down because I keep forgetting to watch. Yeah, cuz it's called something else It's not called the Beastie Boys document the documentary. It's called something else, right? I'm assuming it's on Amazon I can rent it Yeah, yeah, I think I had I think I had to buy it on Apple back, but if you can buy it on Apple, you can normally buy it on Amazon So I'm sure it's somewhere, but it's worth it's worth watching for sure Yeah, there's a lot of I mean, I love Beastie Boys grown up and there was a lot of things I didn't know About their they were one of the first not the first but one of the first hip-hop groups or whatever to Sample to use sample sampling as part of their music and make it really an art, you know Yeah, no, they're they're responsible for a lot of trends that I didn't realize until you watch that you watch and you go Oh shit, they did that first. Oh, wow. Yeah. No, it's there with the Jewish kids from New York. Yeah. Yeah Hey real quick. I hope you're enjoying the podcast. Look if you listen to the intro you heard me talking about Leipold Zomel Glue to thion. 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So head over there and check them out All right, here comes the rest of the show our first caller is Danielle from New Hampshire Danielle How's it going? How can we help you? It's going great. Thanks guys I just want to let you know how grateful I am for you and all that you do Earlier this year I lost my dad to COVID So it got me to start thinking about my own health and my own mobility About June of this year. I started working with an FRC coach And she basically has me unwinding everything that I've learned So I've always been active I was member at the Y I like to swim I like the hike I like to ski But I started to think about There's things I can't do like You know, we're in kin stretch and we're learning about we're gonna flex our toes and we're gonna roll our ankles around And so I'm learning of I'm getting new mobility, but I'm still struggling And then I came across this article and and I'm just wondering so basically I'm five nine I'm about a hundred and eighty five pounds and I'm a like a tall pair. I guess you could describe me And just wondering how does your body shape? Fit into some of the exercises that you may be able to do or not do so for instance a squat I Can get really low when I have no weight, but as soon as I put weight on the bar. I'm back to being parallel I Know what the answer I want you to say is I'm just curious to get some a little bit of feedback I guess yeah, no, that's a good question So the answer is actually in what you just said You could do a full squat with no weight But when you add weight then your form obviously goes in the wrong direction That's a strength issue. How big of a role does your body shape play in in a lot of these exercises? Some what of a role small role for most people because a lot of these movements are kind of foundational fundamental You know pieces of human movement. So it's like walking right so There's about person's body shape Play a role and their ability to walk to some degree but really small right because we all evolved to be able to walk Well, you also evolved to be able to squat and press and row and rotate to some degree and do some split stance exercises now when you get into very technical movements that require Very specific types of mobility Then maybe it plays a larger role But when you're talking about, you know, most of the exercises you're gonna do in the gym a lot of it has to do with strength mobility and connection and Much less of it has to do with just our body Shape or the length of our limbs or how our joints look and I know there's like this movement in the fitness space to talk about You know hip joint in the socket and the length of the femur and you know And yes, there's definitely cases where that plays a role But it's it's a lot smaller than people think for the most part all of us have the capability To be able to do most of these movements and what gets in the way is just you know tightness weakness and lack of stability Danielle First of all, I think the fact that you're doing FRC and you've hired a coach is incredible I think everything that they're teaching over there is is phenomenal. It's life-changing. Absolutely. It really is yeah No, I love I love here and when people actually sign up and start going through that process it was life-changing for me So I think that's great. Are you doing any are you following a maps program or anything in conjunction with it? Are you doing that by itself? Just by itself and then I work with her the trainer three days a week Doing heavy lifting and stuff like that. So I Am the kind of person that needs that constant correction and that for right now where I'm at I just need someone standing over me and correcting form and like I said, I I Have done push-ups wrong. I didn't realize this. I was doing push-ups wrong my whole life So it's a little bit eye-opening But I just need someone right now where I'm at to to guide me through the phases in the exercise and using proper form Are they are they coming with you in person or are you doing this virtually? How are you doing it right now? No, I'm going to the her studio. Oh nice Well, I mean and you know I tell you what like if you didn't if you weren't following something I would have recommended something like maps performance. I think would compliment What you're doing with FRC, but even our programs I think we've said this many times on the show nothing beats a really good coach in person somebody who can call an audible While they're coaching you and explain to you why this feels this way or what's going on with your body Hey, let's move over here and now do these movements and if that coach is doing that stuff with you I think that it's at this point. It's more just about being patient be patient stay consistent You're doing the right things. I think you're on the right track by having someone like an FRC coach to help you out I think you're in great hands. Yeah, I mean going back and going through all the different clients that had limitations, you know There there are, you know, very very few examples of morphology sort of getting, you know In the way of being able to attempt these types of movements It's every single time I've gone through it and we've you know, the more educated I got with Techniques like FRC and you know other types of you know ways to address connectivity issues and stability issues It really highlights, you know, just the amount of times you've just patterned this certain process forever to where you've Self-regulated and sort of limited that a lot of times just based off of like the the type of habits and routines like you've done over the years and there is a way to get go in there and like you said kind of unwind and unpack and and You know dive into that process and see like it unlocks a whole new potential Movement-wise and that's what I love about, you know, those types of modalities. Is it really like highlights the abilities Are there but you have to do maybe sometimes more work To to get back to the root of the actual cost and Danielle You it says in your written question that you started in June of this year. Yeah. Oh, yeah Yeah, you gotta get your time warming up. You're just you're just Hard when when someone says you don't have to prerequisite to do that You know, well, you know what don't don't don't I saw too that you I mean you admit That it's kind of a shot to the ego for somebody who's been working out and doing fitness. You know what? It was it was challenging for me, too I remember the first time that I hung out with Dr. Brink and he broke me down here. I am a personal trainer I've been training other people my whole life and then basically to tell me the same exact thing Hey, you don't have the prerequisites to be squatting that much weight on your back You should be doing X Y and Z And and I'm also somebody who falls under that like, you know morphology is not ideal for squatting really deep I'm six foot three. I do have a long a long femur. I have poor ankle mobility So it was extremely challenging for me to get to where I'm at. That's why that's why too today I'm more proud about my squat depth than I am any PR. I've ever hit in my life as far as oh, I've you know I've squatted 420 pounds. I've benched X like I don't really care about that I'm more proud about the the change in movement that I made in the depth You have totally different metrics now that you're applying towards these these exercises And yeah, and you just have to look at it completely differently like of how much you're accomplishing But in a completely different path than you were before you're on the right track then yellow You're doing the right stuff. So just hang in there and you're gonna continue to improve for a while. I appreciate that. Thank you No problem. Thanks for calling in. Yeah, a lot of people don't realize that By the way, forget mobility forget what this person's talking about if any if someone hires me as a beginner It's it takes six months at least humbling before they released I'm able to really start pushing them with their work out literally for the out This is the average part takes at least six months. I know but she's what that happens She's an athlete, dude This is I can totally connect with this feeling like when she said that You know, it's tough to be somebody who's been hiking swimming running biking You know playing sports your whole life and then have somebody break you down and basically say you've been doing all that wrong Yeah, that's a shot to the guy. Yeah, and there there's these things it can be a shot and then it is a I think you know mobility progress is seems to be a Little more daunting than seeing just more way It's I feel like it's easier to get strong in my opinion It's easier to add three to five pounds to the bar on almost any exercise You're doing then to see yourself get an extra inch or two of depth. Well, it's more I guess ego rewarding Counter-intuitive. Yeah, it's just more ego rewarding. You know, you don't I mean you you want to brag about your new PR But you know, I went, you know half an inch deeper on my exactly nobody else gives a shit that I can get You know, it's like how much are you squat? I mean well for me. This is what I'm concerned about Yeah, that plays a role. Yeah, and back to what I said. It's it takes a while It doesn't mean you're not you don't have a certain level of fitness or stamina or strength for what you were doing It's just you're relearning movements and it takes it takes a while She's probably already made tremendous improvements in that short period of time But wanting it to happen faster It does just take time But once you get there and you start to get there fast you start to get there faster and faster It's a snowball effect. Well, and a lot of this is just reframing the way you look You know kind of exercise and to Justin's point. I had my nephew just call me recently He just he's just transitioned out of maps and a block He's going into maps performance and he's kind of like Overviewing the workouts for the first phase and he's like, you know, this seems too easy for me Should I add he was calling to ask if he should add sets or do some of that? I said, listen I need you and I know him really well obviously so I can I have a little more insight I'm like, I need you to look at this program completely different than the way you looked at maps and a ball When you went into maps and a ball it goes about building your metabolism about getting stronger now that we're moving into performance I really don't care if the workout looks like it could be easier could be harder It could be more your get away from the I want to be strong and that's where you're heading Just even though that's your maybe your long-term goal The goal of this program is to perfect your movement is to increase mobility. So when you go into a workout Let's say you're doing like the reverse lunge to press with the landmine Which is a unique exercise a lot of people may have not done that before I Care less if you called me and said hey Adam last week I was doing that with 50 pounds and now I'm doing it with 80 pounds I would rather you say I started out with 50 pounds and I actually had to back off to 40 But man, I the movement feels so smooth. It looks so good, you know, I can I can slow it. Yes So and that that's the idea is you but it's hard if you are you know Like my nephew's wants to be she's a you know ex football player strong guy Like that's all he cares about is getting buff and strong or losing body fat It's all centered around that and just getting him to wrap his brain around when we are now working on movement and and mobility It's a different mindset going into it So then she needs to do the same thing as is stop worrying about how fast you ran or swam before Forget about how much weight you squatted or bench-press before and now becomes You know, what did the movement look like last year and what does the movement look like this year with the work that I've been putting in and Start start being proud of yourself for the gains that you've made in that direction versus the weight going up or down the bar Our next caller is Shannon from Pennsylvania. Hey Shannon. How can we help you? Hey guys, how are you good? Good? Good, it's amazing to be on here today. I listen you guys every day. I never miss an episode Oh, thank you. So I'll just jump into it. So my question is about building my metabolism So little background two years ago. I competed in my first speaking a bodybuilding show My coach kept me on prep for about ten months and had me ready eight weeks prior to my show But instead of increasing my calories and reversing me into the show She continued to keep me at under 1200 calories in about two hours of cardio every day For those remaining eight weeks. So at five six, I went from weighing in The 140s and I went on stage at 112 pounds Unfortunately, I did stay with her for another prep That was shortly after that first one but three weeks out it was canceled due to COVID So six months after that I did get a new coach and she did bulk me back up to about 152 and then we started another prep After six months, I decided to call that prep off because my body was not responding And I wasn't willing to ruin my hormones or anything else for another show So and at that point I was at the end of the six months I was doing about 1200 to 1300 calories a 120 minutes of cardio and I had only dropped about 10 pounds So I ended that prep this past May and have been honestly trying to figure out what to do next ever since So currently I'm holding steady between 140 and 145 But I don't feel fully comfortable at this weight. I did try to do a mini cut But after six weeks at about 1200 calories and four days of an hour of cardio I barely lost anything. My body didn't respond So I know that my current metabolism is awful. I feel like for At with my height and how much muscle I have that my maintenance being around 1,400 calories, I I think that's extremely low And I know that I need to reverse and increase my calories But I one would prefer not to put on more weight and two I really don't want to put on more muscle I do think that my upper body is where I would want it to be. I don't see myself competing anytime soon again so if I do put on muscle I do focus on my lower body and So my question is to put it simply is how do I increase my metabolism without getting that much muscular? If it's possible Shannon, so okay at this stage looking back actually right now while you're telling us about Your first coach that had you prep for almost a year and Doing two hours of cardio day on top of your your resistance training workouts when you say that now or when you look back Do you how do you feel about it? Do you feel like it was a good idea? Do you think it was totally damaging looking back like what's your opinion on it now? It makes me really frustrated to be honest because I live and breathe health and fitness and for some reason I Just did what she told me and I ignored all the red flags So it's very frustrating because I if I had a proper coach I know that I could have I could be really good a really good body So alright, so now let's let's go back. Okay, so Why why did you stick with it that long? You said you live and breathe health and fitness What made you ignore all the obvious signs that this was not good and this is we're not listening to mine pump yet? I was not no I wasn't listening to you guys yet but I also do have a history of binge eating and I actually hired her as a lifestyle client first To get my macros in order because after trying to figure it out myself It wasn't happening. So seeing the results like seeing myself actually lose weight You know it was addicting so I stuck with her. Yeah, okay So I'm glad you were honest about that Shannon and I felt like there was something else there that might you might not have told us Knowing that and I do want to say this and this isn't for you. I think you might have already Figured this out, but this is for anybody listening right now if you have a history of binge eating or anorexia or any type of an eating disorder or disorder related to that The absolute worst thing you can do for yourself is enter into some kind of a contest where you get judged on your body especially Bikini or bodybuilding or physique or something along those lines. It's a it's a it's a very very bad thing to do it typically results in worse Outcomes for people and now what we're dealing with is this Shannon now you're in a situation where you literally have to heal Your body You know, you can't diet if you die and I think you've already I think you might already understand this if you start to die It now nothing happens your body so resistant because of the the trauma that you put it through with a 10 month prep and then followed up with a Very short bulk with another cut your body just wants to hold on has a memory of what happened And what you have to do is get healthy. You have to give your body a chance to get healthy. So the scale Toss it no more weighing yourself no more judging your body by its appearance You're gonna have to take care of yourself and allow your body to heal for a second. What does that mean? Feed your body eat whole natural foods stay away from heavily processed foods because those can definitely be triggering and make us Want to overeat focus on resistance training? I would avoid all that crazy cardio that you're doing because I think you have a bad relationship with it considering You've done hours of it even on your reverse diet So I would say just walk Just go outside and walk if you want to do some form of cardiovascular activity lift weights a few days a week Focus on full body and heal your body. Don't worry about gaining weight. Don't worry about losing weight Don't worry about gaining muscle None of that matters until you get your body to the point where it it's healthy and not scared anymore About you know that the fact that it might have to go back to where it was before if you do that for a while I you I think you'll be shocked at how your body starts to respond But it may take a while it may take you a year or two You met you you've done about a year or Maybe even more than a year you actually did more than a year of this kind of you know damaging approach to yourself And maybe even before that I don't know what you did before that So it may take you a year to come out of it But that doesn't mean within that year you're gonna gain 50 pounds of body fat and oh my god What happened to me if you take care of yourself in a very genuine way You'll be very pleasantly surprised that you're not gonna get some crazy rebound But you're gonna give your body an opportunity to to heal a little bit and then at that point you can get back on Focusing on maybe more of a reverse diet or whatever But I think right now if we focus too heavily on calories and Macros and the scale and all that stuff. I don't think that's a great idea for you at this moment You also said something that Would concern me if you're a client and I'm trying to help you in this direction Which was that you do not want to put on any muscle right now And if you've got that in the back of your head while you're also trying to build your metabolism right now It's gonna be really tough for you to overcome What you potentially might see in the mirror during this process because if I tell you to Limit or cut out cardio completely and I say just focus on strength training feed your body like Sal is saying There is very much so a potential that we might put a few pounds on you might look a little fuller You might build some muscle But I'd have to be in your ear on a regular basis telling you this is just part of the process Just trust the process. We got to rebuild this metabolism. I promise you that losing muscle is one of the easiest things You could ever do in life So don't worry we can we can peel it down later if you absolutely hate it But right now our focus has to be around getting you healthy and for me it would be a little more prescriptive I know Sal was kind of you know being vague But I would say you're lifting only two to three times a week maps anabolic is what I would have you on you are not Allowed to do any cardio you could walk So if you have a routine because there's a one thing I never want to take from my clients if you really enjoy that getting On the treadmill or stairmaster or doing these long bouts of exercise I wouldn't say you know go sit on the couch and do nothing I'd say okay Well go for a nice walk, you know go walk on the treadmill if you want or write a write a recumbent bike and read A book or do something that's more recuperative and active at the same time But I do not want you pushing the body and running and sweating doing cardio movement is fine But mainly focused around the two to three days a week of a full-body routine That is it as far as strength training and then the rest focused around you know eating the whole foods and slowly Increasing your cow is our goal would be can I minimize the amount of of weight that I put on? while also increasing calories over the course of the next six months plus and Sal's right you we have to fix this first before we worry anything about our Aesthetics and where we want if you want to get out of this if you want to get out of this That's got to be the focus and and again not to pile on Because this is a good time to to address the audience. This is one of the my biggest pet peeves with Online virtual coaches now. This is an extreme example because you're a competitor But this is happening every day to thousands maybe more than thousands of people That are hiring these people online to give them diets and recommendations to get their body to look a certain way And it's dangerous and it's it could really affect somebody long-term and you got to focus on health first and get that It under control Shannon. Are you in the market for another coach? No Okay, currently I'm not if you are if you get to the point where you'd like to hire someone to help you Do not hire a fitness coach don't hire a definitely don't hire a you know prep coach I would suggest you work with a therapist that that understands and works with Either eating disorders or body image issues so non-fitness related But someone you can talk to on a regular basis on a weekly basis or bi-weekly basis that focuses on those things now Here's how I'm gonna sell it to you Shannon, and I'm not gonna lie to you I'm gonna be very honest if you work with that kind of a therapist you'll get better results than you ever did with the other Coaches I'm talking about physical results. Okay, you will get the side effect of that will be you'll get better physical results Even though they're not gonna coach you on fitness or macros or calories They're just gonna work on body image, and they're gonna work on eating Issues and relationships with food and relationships with yourself, and that's I'll put my money on that all day long So if you think to yourself, I want to hire somebody go in that direction Not only is it something that I think you'll just benefit from generally But I think physically you'll get way more out of that than any fitness nutrition coach that you'll find Okay, all right. Do you have maps anabolic by the way? I Do yes, so you're saying you know what Shannon we're gonna put if you're not in the private forum We're gonna let you in the private forum I would love for you to give us some you know just just to let us know how you're doing. Yes, please please and as the challenges arise which they will Share with us and we'll do our best to kind of help support along the way because that for me I think the hardest thing that I know I would have to deal with is you already kind of know in your head I don't want to build muscle and so you're gonna you're gonna struggle with that a little bit as you start to potentially put On a little bit away. It's gonna be a head game. This is really really hard on your psyche and I can relate okay? Cuz I know I went through something kind of similar, so it's gonna be a challenge understand that know that going into it that okay The obstacle in my way is gonna be me and remember that because you're going to that that side He's gonna emerge Especially if you haven't weighed yourself in a few weeks and maybe you're feeling a little bit tighter in your jeans or Maybe you're getting stronger. Oh, am I gaining weight? What's going on? That's gonna be your biggest challenge. So just keep that in mind. Okay, try to stay above that Try to maintain kind of an elevated view of everything because it'll lead you in the right direction Okay, I have a quick follow-up. So you said do not focus on any macros or calories right now, so don't Count the track. No, no eat whole natural foods You know make sure you're eating protein with every meal, but don't just listen to your body So eat until you're satisfied not until you're stuffed. Does that make sense? Do you know what that feels like? Okay, and that would be if you were going to track anything I'd say just pay attention to protein intake and you don't even have to be precise It's like, you know your your body weight somewhere in the 130 140 So make sure you're getting about 110 there you go 120 grams of protein a day and as long as you're close to that Consistently, yeah, if you're eating 30 to 40 grams of protein three times a day, you're you're fine. Yeah Yeah, not an issue. I get around like 160 now. Okay. Yeah, all right good So as long as you hit that and then stick to the whole foods and and then you'll be fine Thanks for calling in Shannon. Good luck. Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you You know these so fucking heated. It makes me so mad because it gets me all Oh, I know this is your guys world. So I'm just like bro. They they literally prey on people's challenges and insecurities and The problem is this this coach that helped her Here's the worst part of it. Okay. The worst evil is done by people who think they're doing good Yeah, that's the problem. The problem is these idiots think that they're doing the right thing And it's because they themselves have these terrible relationships with their body and diet and nutrition Oh, they think they're doing the right thing this work for me So what a 10 month prep is crazy with two hours of cardio 1200 calories a day This is happening all over the place and this is again You know any people too that you know the trend has become to to hire a prep coach just to get you in shape Forget that you're gonna get on stage that this this whole Instagram coaching thing has gone so viral And that's what save your money is oh, let me look at this body that looks amazing Oh, they're a pro, you know physique competitor. They're a pro bikini So and they do coaching so I'm gonna apply the same process Yeah, I'm gonna hire them get ready for Vegas in three months These are the idiots that are gonna get personal training super regulated by the federal go this right here These idiots right here hurting people what that's gonna make and it makes all coaches and trainers look bad I mean it's times like this. I wish you know, I would maybe I shouldn't have but I would have loved to get This person's name out there so that yeah, nobody hires this more on anymore Well, the truth is there's more of them than the other side. I know you cut one head off It's like a hydra, right? Yeah, it doesn't even matter like you're not even if you're yeah There's too many people that that this is happening to right now and it's it's a it's really really sad to see I'm so glad though that you did bring up You know the eating thing I you smelt it out right away that there was something more there is underlying And it the the irony in this is that the people that are attracted to this Which we talked about some of the people that are the ones that needed the least That's the most dangerous for if you already have body image issues or you have any sort of an eating disorder in the past Literally going to compete is the worst thing you could possibly try talking them out of that. Yeah, it's difficult It's like being an ex-alcoholic and then signing up for you know, wine tasting every weekend like that Like what are you doing? That's it's the odds of you not relapsing into some kind of dysfunction or so small Yeah, so don't do that if you have any body image issues Unfortunately majority of people that sign up for those contests. That's why I know But the also the problem is are but are also not aware that they have body image issues They just they think that and sometimes it's willingness. You know, they're willingly unaware. Yeah, like she knows Going into this that she had bulimia issues, but you willingly ignore like no, no I'm gonna keep doing this it's not till after when you look back and go wow Like what have I done and it just makes me upset because people in our space. Yeah, it was bad advice We have the tools to solve health problems not to create them like we shouldn't be creating more health issues Our next caller is Balthazar from South Africa Balthazar. How can we help you? Hey, what's up guys? How you doing? Good? What's happening? No, I'm doing well. Um, so I just want to Also question around like rip and set volume when training for strength. So just a bit of background I'm about I'm 25 years old. I'm about like one eight seven centimeters. I think that's six foot one I'm not sure how the conversion is good. I'm not gonna take conversions, but um, I wear around 196 pounds So I play cricket for fun so I train cricket twice a week and then have a game on the weekend and then I Strengths train five days a week So since listening to you guys are cut down significant on my set volume and my rep volume and my question is based around that that so I wanted to know is it counterproductive to train for strength on your Compound lifts so like what between one and six reps and then for your hypertrophy For the for the other exercises on exercise day So between eight and 12 reps, especially if you try to get strength That's actually a common strategy. So like someone will do like low reps for bench or overhead press or deadlift and then they'll raise the reps a little bit for isolation movements like flies and curls and tricep extensions and it's actually not a bad strategy because really low reps for certain single joint exercise really don't lend themselves well to it So what you're doing is perfectly fine. I will say that now your goal It sounds like your goal is to get stronger in the in the big three lifts. Is that correct? Yeah, I think for my size. I feel I'm not pulling and pushing like a lot of weight I know it's not good to compare, but I feel like I can like for my size. I should be You know doing a lot like being able to like pull and push a lot more How long you've been working out because I'm gonna give you a program But I want to make sure I send you the right one So I've been so I've been Probably strengths training for like a year and a half, but I've been playing sports since I was very little So we had a little bit of strength training in between But not a lot of focus on it, but properly for a year and a half You're not gonna go away from anabolic right now. Well, I was just gonna say how intense are your practices? Yeah, how intense a practice is for a cricket. Are they pretty like hard workouts? No, so it's not It's not hard workouts is like around two hours and it's basically like it's almost like the baseball I could say so it's a lot of like throwing and a little bit of running But on weekends our matches are like nine to ten hours long. So I try to stay away from, you know doing doing Doing push push workouts for like on a Friday before the game because I don't want to do a overpress and then Dude cricket is the ultimate. It's the ultimate spectator sport for the dad. Yeah, it's like sorry, honey I got a whole day So Balthazar I'm gonna I'm gonna send you maps and I think that's perfect for what you want and your current You know training regime with your sport We also have something called maps power lift although maps power lift is better run by itself Without additional, you know exercise and athletics maps anabolic I think would be ideal and you can choose two or three foundational workouts a week on it I'd start you off on two do the two foundational workouts and then stick to your normal practice to trigger sessions on some of the off days And I wouldn't be surprised if your strength went through the roof Probably get in the off season, you know something where you're not like Comboing that with your your skills sessions what you're doing in practice and everything else So you could just focus completely on you know getting strong in those core lifts The biggest challenge you're gonna have is the mental piece here Because it sounds like you're a competitive type of person athlete You were already lifting five days a week on a push push pull legs and you were doing three days of cricket So us all of a sudden coming in here and saying okay more than cut your strength training in half And your goals to get stronger. It's gonna sound counterproductive to what you're trying to do But the truth is this is the direction you need to go so you need to kind of trust the process Recover to move forward. Yeah, I'm gonna make sure Doug puts you in the private forum that way, too We could yell at you if you don't listen to us over the next couple months because this is the most tempting thing a young guy Like you's gonna have cat it totally can relate to this being 25 years old full of piss and vinegar I'm playing playing sports on the side for fun I'm also trying to build muscle and I want to end the thought is the more I put into it the more I'm gonna get out But it's this is not true when it comes to building muscle and strength There there is a too much and a too little and I think you're leaning on too much If our goal is to get stronger week over week Just simply backing off to the two to three days of maps anabolic routine is gonna give you the results You want you just got to trust the process though stick with it for a while You don't even have to trust it for that long. I think if you follow it within the first two three weeks You'll see strength gains. So within the first few weeks, you'll know right away. Like, oh, this is definitely working for me That's how confident we are and in this kind of programming with what you're currently doing But I would start with the two foundational don't go to three unless you stopped getting results from the two And I'd be surprised if it if you probably did a whole three month cycle with two foundational workouts and add Tremendous amounts of weight to to your main lifts another way to use that I think we gave this advice to someone the other day is For you to decide whether you go to the beat That's the beautiful thing about maps and a ball You could have one week where you do two times a week the next week you do three and then the week after that you Go back to two it doesn't mess up the programming so you could kind of choose That if you like and we gave this advice to someone who was in a similar situation I believe she was like a volleyball player something. I don't remember who it was But if you can learn to read your own body and and and have the self-awareness to go like oh, you know This week we really didn't practice that hard at cricket or the game was easier or my body just feels really good Maybe I go to three days a week and if it's a week where you know you had a you know extra long game or Practice was taxing or maybe you had a lot work was kind of stressful If it's kind of a higher stress week and you know that you've kind of you know Taxed your body more than the week previous than you dropped it too So if you get good at kind of paying attention to those things which I recommend you start paying attention to if you're not already And adjust the the amount of training you're doing based off that. I think that works really well too We'll send that over to you. Okay, balthazar. Awesome. Um, can I maybe just ask two questions around that? um If that's okay Yeah, sure. So I kind of have like a history of like I would say over training like I really like training and I Try to do it every day, but if let's say I can only do the two foundational workouts a week How do I You know stop myself from doing something on that day. It's something I can replace it with. Yeah mobility trigger sessions You can trigger sessions. You can do mobility work. You can go outside and hike. You can go for walks You can do yoga. I don't want you to not be active. It's just low to moderate intensity Yeah, I just don't want you to lift weights, you know with high intensity every single day when you get the program You're gonna see that so even though we're saying two to three foundational days the other two days a week are trigger sessions So you're technically could be working out still four or five days It's just a lot different intensity Follow the trigger sessions as applied on there and if you wanted to do more on top of that I'd say some light mobility work with there and a great place to start For mobility if you don't have any direction on that is if you go to the maps or is it primepro webinar.com Yes, go to primepro webinar.com literally follow that routine That I do on there. It's about a 50 minute routine So if you feel antsy and you want to do something and you want to do movement you follow that I think that'll have tremendous benefit for you Okay, great. Thank you. No problem. Thanks for calling Yeah, thank you and I just want to thank you guys again for I know everyone says this but You know since isn't you guys like my life has changed a lot I appreciate that and a personal and like professional life, you know my relationship everything has changed Oh, thank you very much, man. That's more confident. Thank you. Appreciate that man. Appreciate that You know, we've had a huge Surge of listeners from South Africa recently. So it looks like we've kind of kept caught on over there Which is kind of cool. Yeah. I love his name, dude I know right Two things that are very interesting one, uh, I forgot that cricket was that long I remember I had a buddy who played it and he said that sometimes they would stop a game And have to restart it later because it was there's just so I can go on for so long That's crazy. That baseball got like long and you know winded Yeah, that has to be like to set the record one of those episodes on bad sport had uh one of the on cricket And I'm like I was It gave me like the urge to want to go figure it out because it's so frustrating for someone like me Who likes sports to watch a sport and not know what's going on? Yeah, it's so confusing to me. I'm sure it's not that confusing It's just so new to me. So I don't know but but yeah back to you know Kind of what he was talking about with his with his workouts and stuff You know, the right dose is the right dose and I know I look I get it man. I do this all the time to myself You want to do more because you enjoy the process, which is actually a good place to be Yeah, you just got to be smart about it. Otherwise the process will kill you, uh also so But yeah, if you enjoy the process, I totally get it. You just want to be constructive So I'm glad he balances man, and I'm glad he asked that second part like, okay What do I do because I like to move it's like you can totally move Yeah, you just do other things that are going to benefit you don't Smarter about it. I mean that's really the key is to just know that there's the right dose there That's going to propel you forward. You do too much not going to be to your benefit totally Our next caller is michael from florida michael, what's up, man? How can we help you? Hey, what's going on guys? So I uh in the past I guess 12 years I've had two Major weight fluctuations where I gained a lot of weight lost a lot of weight The first one I lost 50 or I gained 50 pounds Lost it all I did that. I'm actually training for a triathlon um the second one I You know got a job met a girl Got comfortable gained a lot of weight. I actually got a serious injury I was non weight bearing for 90 days and I pretty much gained all the weight back again And then I lost the weight the second time by doing your favorite exercise doing crossfit um And then I kind of plateaued for a while Um, I tried a bunch of different things. I did carb cycling Which screwed up my stomach so bad. I had to stop doing that Um, and then I recently just completed an iron man this past weekend. I'm actually still down here now in florida and um I'm kind of like nervous that I like I used to love lifting weights and now everything I've been doing is Endurance and like beating myself up and I feel like I've screwed up my metabolism over the past 12 years um doing this up and down up and down especially with the crazy endurance Training I've been doing the last six months and I'm kind of done with it And I want to get into lifting again, and I'm just like kind of lost. I don't really know where to start I don't want to just go into the gym and and do the same thing every day. So I'm just kind of looking for your advice Yeah, no good good question. Yeah, sure. So, okay. Um Okay, why Why do you do these these events? What are the what's the motivation behind iron man triathlon crossfit crossfit? Like what's the real I want to I want to hear the truth of like the root motivation So I grew up swimming um, and I was actually in a really bad place during the first triathlon. I did I I got laid off from my job. I uh, I was working in a lantic city Which is a you know crazy nightlife and I was just going down a really bad path So I found a local triathlon was coming into a lantic city. I decided to sign up for it And I was really motivated to train for it. I actually met my wife. She was training for an olympic Trap distance triathlon and kind of got into it And then we decided to have a family and iron man seems really cool And this was kind of my last shot to do an iron man for the next 10 years because We hopefully have another one on the way. So the time to train really isn't going to be here So I did the iron man The crossfit thing honestly, I moved to a new area Um, and I needed to lose weight And I mean I was I kind of need to lose like 40 pounds at the time And I jumped into a crossfit and it kicked my ass and I was like oh, this is going to be great And it helped don't get me wrong. I mean, I ended up losing a lot of weight Um, but I I feel like it might have done more bad than good. Um, aside from the things you do say like, you know I was delicate and I was squatting I was doing things that I haven't done in the gym before which You know, I was done with some 500 pounds at one point. Um, so I know I long term it's not healthy for me And especially with like I said the gaining weight and losing it all the time But um, I'm done with the advanced stuff at least for now Yeah, do you feel like if you don't sign up for An event or a competition that you tend to go in the opposite direction motivation thing 100% okay 100% okay So we need to address that first Mike because any advice I give you is not going to work unless that isn't solved Okay, so you you have to change the relationship that you have with fitness and exercise because right now Fitness and exercise is you're using it like a drug. Okay, so whatever the other drug is whether it be Not moving and eating a lot of food or whatever What you're doing is you're replacing that drug with fitness and because fitness is better for you gets you to move Um, it's not as bad as maybe what the other drug was So we tend to not identify the fact that it can also be damaging And I've had lots of I've had situation with clients that You know quit smoking and then they started using exercise like smoking and overdid it in that direction as well So I want you to change your motivation. You said you're having another baby Um, I don't know if this will work for you. This has worked for other clients of mine but I want you to focus on Longevity and quality of life So what I mean by quality of life is like think of the most important things that you have in your life Maybe being a father being productive at work being a good husband What kind of workouts make you better at those things and keep reminding yourself of that while you're going through what i'm about to Recommend because if you do that you'll stay on the right path If you maintain the kind of relationship that you've had in the past with exercise The advice i'm going to give you right now is not going to work It'll be very short term and at some point you'll either fall off and then rebound by Signing up for another event going or going extreme in another direction or by giving up entirely because it just doesn't feel good Okay, so the route has to be there, but once you can do that and remind yourself of that I think for someone like you a program like maps performance I'm glad you went that way. I wasn't sure you're gonna go that way and I do like that a lot for him Yeah, because you have the athletic background. I think you'll appreciate The functional component of maps performance. There's a mobility component in there So I think it'll uh, you'll enjoy that so you can do some kind of fitness every single day Brandy stimulus and a lot of different directions. Totally. It'll make you feel good, but you but you got to remind yourself of that route What's making me a better person today? Do I feel better today? Do that quality of life, you know longevity that'll put you in the right direction Otherwise, like I said this advice i'm giving you's not going to help I also like the idea of maps performance too I just recently was sharing with the guys that I had a phone call with my nephew Who just moved from maps anabolic is now going to performance And I was trying to to coach him that you have to complete you have to change your mindset going into this program And it's all around movement. And so what sal's saying about quality of life and the child and all this Like I would totally reframe the way I look at exercise. It's like One my goal is like what's the the least amount I can do to get the most results because I rather spend more time with My family than in a gym or hammering myself training for like an iron man So that's first and foremost and then I want to be able to do things like Squat down and play with my son while he's on toy and not feel like my back is killing me and my knees are killing me So when I exercise I'm doing movements that are going to support That and that is like a win for me It's that's more of a win than hitting a new pr in the deadlift or the squat And so when you approach this program, you know approach it with goals like that is hey I've never really focused on my squat depth or the my movement quality Can I look at these exercises watch the the you know the model that's dimming on them And my goal isn't can I get the weight way up and get stronger in this movement? My goal is can I make this movement look perfect? Like I'm the model Can I make it look better than what they're doing it and and approach your your exercise like that? Yeah, you're re-examining a lot of these familiar exercises that you've been in a race to get through Uh, and I don't know if that resonates at all But for me like I I I very much have had that mentality that you've had in terms of Trying to find the next super hard punishing thing to get involved in And it was always a race for me to get there and I just felt like I always needed that but This is this is one of those things where You can re-examine a lot of these types of Exercises and find out the real value if you just slow down if you slow down Your body is going to benefit tremendously and to to be able to kind of like shift your mindset towards that That's going to be able to take it more in a sustainable Uh direction in terms of longevity, right the the the race really is Sustainability for you. What can you stick with the longest and not want to just jump into the next thing and and punish yourself? Yeah, it's going to be a practice. Okay, not a workout now. You're definitely gonna work out But I want you to think of it as a practice a daily or almost daily practice Whether it's one of the foundational workouts or mobility session Maths performance gives you the option to be working out or doing a mobility session one of those five days a week You know three of those workouts will be a little longer and the other two will be shorter kind of mobility sessions But go into it like a product think of it as a practice. So very zen. Okay. That's the mentality I want you to go into it with And use that that same competitive mindset that got you to lose 50 pounds to do a triathlon or whatever Think of yourself zen quality of life. It's a practice once it clicks. You're going to find this rhythm That's going to feel very good very balanced and serve you well rather than pushing you to red line and then causing you to stop And you know continue the cycle and by the way you mentioned your metabolism being ruined It's not ruined. It's doing exactly what it's supposed to do So don't worry. You don't think you're like, oh my god. I damaged my body. What am I going to do? Your body your body responded the way it evolved to respond and it will do it will respond the way it evolved to respond If you do what we're telling you Yeah, if you do what we're telling you what you'll find is Your metabolism will start to not worry so much about being so hyper efficient You're going to build some muscle. You start to move better and you'll develop a comfortable You know good relationship with exercise where it feels Not not just exhilarating because I know you know what that feels like or punishing or like I survived Like that's okay Occasionally, but the kind of relationship you develop with exercise is like I said a practice like this sets me up And boy, can I be a great, you know father business owner employee husband? Whatever it's going to improve the quality of your life long term So go into it that way and I think you'll have tremendous success And if you don't have maps performance, we're going to send that over to you right now Awesome. Oh, yeah, I definitely don't have it. Um, yeah, my wife will be pleased to no more 15 hour training weeks Yeah, you're maniac dude just tell her say hey look the guy said to replace my workouts with sex, so You're welcome. There you go. All right. Thanks, Michael. All right. Thanks guys. No problem Yeah, that's the uh, the old I had this isn't like the most common thing, but I had It's pretty common a lot of these. I mean, I wouldn't say it's like a majority But I definitely had those clients that they'd finish one race Got to work out for the next race. I'd actually said it's like this. It's like they had to do it that way Yeah, I'd say it's really common. Uh, but what is hard is getting somebody who's into all these things to Convince them that that's their issue and it's not a good thing Right. They all I mean you when you're in this on this track a lot of times It's a good thing for you like, oh, I'm gonna sign up for the next time and I'm gonna sign up for the next this I'm gonna sign up for the next that and they don't realize that they have this pattern of oh, wow Unless I'm signed up for something like this. I'm terrible at being consistent with my diet and my training You know, is there something else underlining there or is this a good behavior to have for the rest of my life? There's all the gurus out there that they're probably following that, you know Really, you know, hype this up like you gotta you gotta get off You gotta get up at 4 a.m. And like beat you like there's just so much of that that this Message here is just not elevated enough. Yeah, I had a female client that she just was just repetitive over and over again And she got to the point where She was doing like an event every other month and what finally got her to open her eyes was when she could not lose She could not get leaner Eating under 1200 calories running 20 plus miles a week and lifting weights four to five days a week And she's like, why can't I get any leaner? I'm I can't get below You know, I don't remember what it was like below 20% body fat and I said well, this is all the stuff I've been telling you and she finally like, okay I give up. I surrender. I'll do what you say a year later She was eating 20 something 100 calories a day and leaner than ever and working out Way, way less. It works. It totally works. Look if you like our information You gotta head over to mind pump free.com Check out our free guides, right? We wrote guides that can help you with Almost all of your fitness goals. Again, it's mind pump free.com. You can also find all of us on instagram So justin is at mind pump justin. I'm at mind pump sal and adam is at mind pump adam