 Before we get to the questions of others two final questions from me When you're hiring staffers or hiring in other capacities such as the University Obviously we look for people who are small at people with good values people who work hard But what is it you look for in particular that may be other? Employers or other senators other people don't think carefully enough about I Think the only two talents I have From a work standpoint are I'm pretty good at sussing out when a strategic vision vision is missing and building a menu of Choices about what strategic choices we should be making what would we need to decide for this? Corporation the small business this not-for-profit this college and the second is I think I'm decent at team building and The reason for that is I only hire people who are big cause low ego and that pairing is hard to find Yeah, it's great to be smart and of course there's a minimum threshold of how smart people need to be But fundamentally what I want is people who want to be a part of a cause that's bigger than themselves And they want to do something that matters they they're sort of always asking that deathbed like question When I'm you know if I get the cancer diagnosis at 50 or in my old age at 85 when I look back on my life Well, I think I spent my 30th year well Well, it depends on whether or not I was pulling on oars for some cause That's bigger than me and doing it in a way that I didn't care who got the credit And I want people on a team who in that kind of Aristotelian sense Distinguished between Deliberation decision and action such that you have a team of people who want to fight really hard when you're Deliberating among strategic choices You want people who really are not bashful about trying to lay out pros and cons of both their position and everybody else's position In the room and fight really really hard, but then finally when you pull the trigger and make a decision I want people on a team who don't remember what side they fought for because this was the decision We made and once we made this decision We're going this way and nobody's gonna get credit because it was originally their idea or get blamed because it wasn't their idea We want it to succeed because we're on a team and that that's sort of big cause low ego impulse Those are the people that are fun to work with too