 And welcome Well, we are here today to show you some effort of the Outreach he program who knows the outreach he program Good the other ones are here for bioinformatics, right? No Okay, well The thing is Okay, the thing is in the DB and mid team has a lot of biological packages and we are not really sure and as Tatiana and that I have proven It was we were really we could be sure that all not all our packages are working correctly Because they have written tests. They've written out of big and cheap tests, which is a very valuable job And both of them did it very good Unfortunately Tatiana can't come but not you want to present some of her work and and I asked her to present on one side Technical works biological stuff Which I really appreciate because I'm a physicist I have no idea about biology and I'm happy that she is doing things I couldn't do and on once on the other side She should give some introduction into the internship into deviant because because for my For my opinion it's even more important that we get new persons to our teams I'm always tried to get new fresh blood and thanks to the outreach he program We have people doing the work and we have people who might remain in the deviant project Which is really interesting for us So and now I have the pleasure to follow the talk of Natya and wish you good luck Thanks Hello, my name is Nadia and I'm a little bit from addition Unfortunately another after wasn't able to make it here Tatiana, but I will speak for both of us So by informatics is a scientific field which combines computer science and mathematics to analyze biological data My specializations is mostly genomics and genome assembly and Tatiana's specialization is proteomics and structure of biology There are hundreds of packages in Debian which are related to bioinformatics and the goal of my internship is to Improve quality of these packages by writing tests As far as they know there are two types of internships in Debian. It's the Google summer of God and outreach There is Same, but there are some differences for example, there are Much more projects available for Google summer of God But it happens only once a year while outreach happens twice a year and Google summer of God is Available only for students which are enrolled to some program while outreach is available for people from under underrepresented groups such as women Unfortunately, outreach isn't so popular as Google summer of God and Not many people knows about it I'm personally learned it by friend who knows someone who knows someone who participated and It's sad because There are a lot of people who graduated and they are looking for internship but most interships are available only for students and Outreach is a good choice For me it was a perfect choice because I was looking for a job for a year And I couldn't find anything because I didn't have much experience and when I'm tried to find internship I couldn't qualify because I wasn't a student anymore and Outreach helped me to overcome a first contribution anxiety because at first I Was afraid to make some to make something wrong or ask silly questions And I want to reach you helps to overcome these problems and Also why I liked this project Because it really makes difference for bioinformaticians because I know my friends biologists biologists they struggle with bioinformatics often because it's almost always buggy it doesn't run from the first time and They feel frustration and Often they just drop the idea to use the tool and they write their own scripts And this is a wasting of time So I think the improving the quality of packages is important Here's some examples of our work what we learned This was a story When I was testing a fast-tik stall kit package and It didn't work and then I asked community and figured out that there was undocumented option So yeah, and when I figured out this the problem was solved Another case is When I skipped system requirements and was trying to test package Which actually needed 75 gigabytes of RAM Of course it was a better location on my computer But then I figured out there was An option to make a mini database and run on my computer This is an example of Tanya's work When she worked on metastudent package she found out that Dependency changed from legacy blast to blast plus and The output of blast plus was different from legacy blast. So she needed to look for all Usage of blast blast plus in the metastudent and change it To parts correctly at the output And Also we used the Parallel package which helps to write tests for parallel packages And it was an example of good legacy And also I wanted to say some words about my mentor and dress We like to work with him very much because he always on through answered on time He was always supportive And I'm very shy person and he pushed me out of my Zone of comfort you also make me shy now Thanks anybody have a question who wants to ask the first question If not I have some additions because if I compare my experience with Google summer of code students, which You all if the Google summer of code students were men they were frequently not that busy as women. So I have better experiences with Tatiana and you and I had also another Women in the Google summer of code. They are Doing a very good technical work to my experience and it was Very good communication between us. So this is I can really recommend to run this out to a G program and What I would like to give as a hint for mentees mentors that When Tatiana said I was responsive I have a kind of a priority of myself is if somebody is waiting for an answer for me Then this is has highest priority. I've always Toss to do everybody has to do but if somebody is waiting for you Please don't let people wait to keep their motivation higher. This is kind of important thing and so I Hope it's it's in our team. The culture is that way and I can just recommend this so and According to the actual technical technical work, I remember at least two packages where Natya spotted some several mistakes I made in the packaging So this this was really cool because I thought but this is what we need. We need people who are doing Yeah, it's a for ice workflow. If it's an intern or not, but This this is kind of important thing and people should Be kind of bold because I'm kind of an established deviant developer And I'm quite known but I make as many mistakes as everybody else. So please check us and This is a good thing of interns because they come without Prejustice and do their job and that I really did a good job as well as Tatiana. Unfortunately can come Oh, did this trigger some more questions now? Well, there's a question. I think we've started with a question in the back and then you It's a personal question Has this internship motivated you to spend more time on deviant like now in your free time? I Never was a man But I don't know how to compare But yes, I feel that I'm responsible for this task and I'm responsible for future attendees So they will have the chance Okay An addition But another difference between Google Summer of Code and outreach is that In outreach you can only only participate once As far as I know and for Google Summer of Code you can participate twice if I'm not mistaken But having said that I have also been an outreach intern This winter and I find the experience really great and it did motivate me to stay with Deben and To involve more with the Deben people with Deben teams and so I can double the words This is a great experience and it really helps you to come into the end of the world There's a question here Thanks Yeah, my question I guess is quite simple and I know that I cannot generalize for a from a specific answer But well these programs are meant to not only to get Like a one-time participation, but to a foster Young people getting involved in the project. Do you do you as a person or have other of your mentor is a Well, it continues to work in the project after after this experience What would you say about this day say the retention rate or the the success of these programs beyond the person? Okay, well, I realized that Despite my hope that the Google Summer of Code students would continue They did not really continued on the topic. There's one exception There's super thing who went into this was my first Google Summer of Code students who went into Davion's organization of Google Summer of Code to get other students in Unfortunately, the other students did not really remain but it's maybe not such a bad thing because you say finish your study and Find a job and then have some spare time. They oh, there was this project They were in it was cool to stay and maybe they come back later So I'm I do not want to draw a final line here under this question I personally really like to mentor people be it for for this official program We have also in official programs in Davion made and from this experience. I say Well, not 50% but close below 50% of the people I'm mentoring are staying inside Which is quite a good quote. I think Hmm and by the way, this was also my motivation to to push Natya I need to come here and hold the talk because he was not really so happy But I think it's it's important to to learn the feeling to present your stuff here at Deppcon Because I told her all our friends and you need to meet your friends somehow. This is the easiest and though everybody knows you and Talk to you at lunch or dinner or so. This is also important to you Why you are smiling? That's good. Anybody else who wants to join the Davion mid-team after this talk you Don't say yes, but maybe you do it without saying yes I'm always at try to attract people who could be helpful even if they are doing just a small part in our team That's always welcome Question Please wait for the main Do you have a favorite Debian science package? Was or how about it was the one that was the least troublesome No, actually it was a package that I didn't throw the test, but I Tried to find the bug in BBA It's a BBA. Yes. It's like aligning to be W. Okay And there was a bug which I Was looking for a week and It was Very cool to find it. Well, this is actually under statement. What she usually is doing it was one of my colleagues had the one data set which was crashing under certain circumstances and Well, I wrote an issue on the bug tracker of BWA and they said mmm That's a bug. We should care for it and then it was silence and then I tried to debug it and It cannot really fit it in my my day job It was really a one work one week of work. It was and I hadn't this week and so Maybe I'm also not so skilled in debugging and and finally I thought well we have this Skilled young woman in our team just stole this job on her and it's actually not the main task to find this Sparks it's the main task is to write tests and That I did it. I'm really happy about this. So This was really cool job. Thank you Any further questions So you mentioned that outreach he helped you get over the the first contribution anxiety But I would suspect that outreach he we didn't do a perfect job at that That's one of the most important things that outreach he does So how can outreach you do that even better than we do it now? Maybe providing the example like some sort of how to do it Because at first the the only problem is the fear that you do something wrong and I think There's support and that When people say you that it's okay to make a mistake, this is important Yeah Yeah, maybe making me outreach you more popular it worked. We are a friend of your friend and a friend and Tatiana not I were friends before and if I'm not had Mentored Tatiana first Nadia would not be there. So it should be in Non-interrupted chain of Persons working with us and then then we will get more people. I think more questions. I think we also got 20 minutes or how is this it's finished? Okay, okay, then let's thank again Thank you very much