 Loki, whoa, the next one season two episode two. So Wow those first 20 episodes they just flew by yeah, so much happened They were wonderful to be fair when we get 20 episodes into the show I don't I'm not still not gonna know what happened friend of mine was asking for context because he's gonna watch season two without season one And I was like why? Well But like seriously what the fuck do you say it's like the time team that Loki joins Becubs friendly cloud locally there's an evil cloud that's trying to destroy everything who gets killed and now everything means anything Purple fart monster like you forget about that. Yeah, that's right. I feel like throwing that in only complicates Alligator what's up with that? Oh, yeah Yeah, you're right ignore the loki's man. Like how do you even explain that first season? I don't know that anyone should You get 10 people in a room who've all watched it and said they like it and then asked them to relay the plot I bet you get a lot of different answers So many people think it's like a like a buddy cop duo with him and like Owen Wilson But I swear that happened for like an episode. Yeah, that's a lot more of Loki and Sylvie together. Yeah Yeah, that was not as fun and dynamic. Is there anything to say about that first episode? Last time we liked a lot of things that were the packaging so to speak the acting was good Some of the humor actually hits the sets are neat. There's Good Sometimes difficult to criticize you because we've got no foundations. I don't know where to begin Foundations are gone as far as I'm concerned They were already gone probably by the end of like episode two of the first season maybe even episode one Especially with that whole idea of oh this big machine has all of the timelines the disparate timelines They funnel into this to go back into the one timeline. It's like wow that seems new and contradictory But I don't even know what is or isn't victory anymore They contradicted themselves so many times that I can't make sense of anything in the show the temporal lube That's just something that's a thing. It's just like okay It was in this room There's this whole sector with this guy you've never met before but super important friends with Mobius. You're like, okay All right, sure. Yeah, I feel like he would have come up, but no, no, it's fine No, and then of course the whole thing of like so the TVA does operate in time and space I mean we already knew that because time progresses for Conversations The reason I was like a cartwork like that the TVA is because I think in season one It would have just been outright stated by somebody at some point that's just like well Yeah, because if you go back in time in the TVA you'd start like duplicating all over the play or like everything would fall upon you like Oh, yeah, because it would have to like basically the TVA is almost a concept that doesn't make sense in and of itself Like you'd have to do Controls just from saying like beyond time and space but has a timeline and it's like and then occupy space So it's already fucked and it's like, okay Well, how do I portray something that doesn't have time or space like well, it's pretty fucking hard actually Why the TVA doesn't come across as cringes like the crisis on infinite earths beyond time and space is really because of the production Yeah I will say if I was being pitched season two and they're like Sylvie's at McDonald's I'd be like we We have ideas are we fucking around cuz I mean if you want This changes everything this changes nothing. I just know which is just And I'm going to McDonald's you did it's so funny if both Sylvie and Loki got shot by the back of the head in the next episode They appeared we would just be like, yeah, I guess Yeah, I'll be curious if they want to restart the romance element that's gonna be something else What are you hating on the Scots now two rags no, just No, I'd never do that Always tease me with those better characters in the beginning. They still I think at this point I like remember you did like some of this Watch those movies and forget about this we can just leave us this is our job We we can just do something else Because I hate the MC now, but I kind of miss the old faster intro. I miss the flickering comics I thought it was really cool Very beginning, but then it gets replaced with all that stuff That is pretty funny London just in case you didn't know it's it's in England. Yeah, I've mostly everything does that but still I agree Well, it's just that the the meme is typically that when it's in America They'll put the city and then the state but when it's a different country, it'll be the country Would you bring any if you had full control not allow them to put London England there and instead wait for a character to reference it Or have some in the background have it. I think at this point I really would prefer to not do the text on screen that I would wait for that We pick it up from the accents and then the you know, just casual talks about different things culturally it'd be cool Give you a little It's a really yellow Even just second Justice skyline with no text on screen. I would prefer even though I think you can do better than that So wait, so he's that's the real life of security man from earth where he got snatched from I guess, right? He knows him I used to work with this guy. I'm confused. I don't know He's some kind of undercover agent. I think they said earlier Wait, so is he TVA undercover right now? Look at all use a drink, right? What are you drinking? Surprise me? How about you? Oh? I'm fine. Oh fuck off with Loki would have something. It's so annoying. Isn't it? It's too late as well. It's not even about whether or not they understand original Loki They don't care about original Loki now. He's not he's not original Loki anymore. He's Improved Whoa, what the fuck? Oh, it's TVA lady What wait, so they're trying to capture him. Yeah, I feel like I missed the next time It's going on let him go because they want to have drinks By the way, you want to talk about like because I think this said sacred timeline So this is meant to be mainline MCU timeline. So Right no, there's no, that's the multi bus. Oh, is it all the okay? Did you just use magic for the first time and forever like it? Yeah, that's what it looked like You'd forget he's a God by the way. Yeah, you would forget that. I hate this show so much for that Me further away How is this happening you had you were like to me as a way the whole time How you perpetually Oh Well should have started with that. I didn't do that. Yeah, this is wait What was that? We're like two minutes in and it's retired literally Loki could like shout a word and make him appear And it would just be like yeah, that's how that works, but no, I guess he's lost him Oh, so that's just like a teleportation Yeah, which I guess is really useful. You want to have that handy this show is just so coherent I'm not rude I thought he was famous I guess that's why they don't like him. He's he's high-class. They're low-class fuck this guy hold on a second All right Why do this instead of the teleport my bro? All you're gonna do is antagonize all these people. Oh It's low key fucking with him Sophisticated x5, but now you've revealed it so you can just run he actually used his power, but he's just revealed it So you'll just run away real cute real cute Oh You did that oh you have telekinesis. I forgot you had telekinesis that you should have been using this whole time, but okay, that's fine So now are you just sick of running madly after him? And so you're not gonna use your mini powers And mess with someone oh look at that Shadows are grabbing him well dream wouldn't do this it's still I was about to say it doesn't feel at all like you Would do it, but it's also like them remembering things that Loki could do To catch up I feel like we're being teased with the original Loki This Loki isn't the same Loki anymore Yeah, God it's been like that was actually just like an inch of something that was like in the wrong place I feel like I missed some dialogue at the beginning there like I'm not entirely sure why we're capturing that guy again Maybe we'll find out over the course That's a tempad what did you do to it? I put some colorful buttons on it for you. Haha. He's snarky I like it both sets CCC so it's a super secret cell What about this? Have OB check it out. See have OB check that it's like OB's our tech guy now He'll be involved all the time even though he wasn't at all in season one So that's something no, yeah, that's that's genuinely true Actually, yeah, very much enjoyed any scene with these three in it Oh, I think I'd rather see a show where OB's get up to in his little uh, you know In his little workshop. I like Owen Wilson in this. I think he's all right Do you think this is a higher priority than preventing a temple meltdown? No, no, no Focus on the temple. I agree seems prudent. Oh, I thought he was making fun of them I didn't realize he was asking genuinely. I was also kind of hoping that he'd be like Yeah, I'll take care of your random small problem while I'm trying to save the universe And he hits on rent players 10 pad. No hits, but I did find something else This is the only person who works at the TVA Does he know the producer or something section 42 should match with the system is that with the red light because we tried that already We'll try it again. Is this Mobius's office? I thought it was Loki's forever. He had like a desk in season one. It looks kind of like that one Yeah, it was his right now there on those are on those windows windows Yeah, I guess the windows little graphs and stuff the perfect microwave Popcorn algorithm miss minutes is helping rent slayer. So she isn't married that is confirmed when I was in the past I heard something a bit an old conversation between rent slayer and he who remains really not know he's called Kang yet This looks like Kang he remains as cringe. Yeah, it's a long Kang is cringe too, but it's implied It's just a rigged 10-pad X fire says it somehow blocks TVA tracking. That's not what it does Oh, he knows I looked at it from a distance. I know it is. Haven't you read the TVA guidebook? Memorized it. I feel like Mobius would have memorized it. I want to follow them did what else do they do with their lives? This definitely doesn't block any trackers. That's for sure Whoa, let's take her on a brad wolf. What was that weird? I feel like if I like a video game like you achieve it unlock chapter completely Alvi it just coincidentally lines up with his yeah movement Branson asshole, so don't let him get under your skin Why is this chicken is so involved in everything who is she like in this organization? I thought she was just Security person. She was one of the guards that turned earlier than the others in the first season But I don't see why she's here really. What did you do to this 10 pad? It blocks your trackers. No, it doesn't What is it designed for X5? It's Brad. I probably call him Brad just to make him feel better about it Is that one other information someone X5 is considering that this lady believes that the TVA is bullshit Why would she still be calling people by the name of the organization that she hates very true That's they should bother her to refer to people by labels like that Everyone here knows what you're doing. You know, you're just trying to make up. Oh, we doing this All right, this is theme isn't it? That's what we're up to huh for all the terrible awful shit you've done in your life Pathetic little man. Look how much it got to Loki. Holy shit. It's riveting Keep going. I want to hear more. Oh god. It should be water off a duck's back with him. Yeah Promise you think you're special, but you're not oh my god It's pretty special. Yeah. He's a nice giant raised by Odin who can cast spells I feel like that's special at the end of the day You just make everything worse. Oh Oh I like how this is just coming from some guy with a fucking Yeah Did you say for your mother you lose your loser? Loki this is just what the writers think of him. Wow, that's getting him. He's getting big mad I mean, yeah, I'm mentioning his mom would get him real mad. That's actually true But why the fuck would this guy be mentioning it? Is he gonna punch him there is the law hold him back Mopius hold him back You're gonna cry a person shed Maybe that is who I am It's the real me a loser. Oh Perhaps I've just been Biting my time God, I wish I imagine it was all a fucking show. That'd be wonderful Oh, I would fucking love if this show was all a show so I can do awful things To you remember he was actually specific in Avengers. They didn't just say terrible awful things Where is Sylvie whatever one and leans in like that call their bluff. Don't move if they want to kiss. Yes. Yeah Also, that's true you are way too obsessed with her Yeah, you know for like an hour. He's holding him back. Go Mopius. I got a little tense No, you can't point it out to it makes it worse play along with us answer our questions and we just get on with it Torture him you could be an actor. I'm not an actor. I'm an analyst, but thank you. You're not an analyst I'm not a hunter. Well, I mean he is an analyst because you've been doing it for a while Even if he's unaware of the true of context. He's still an analyst the TVA is not your real home. Mopius Isn't even your real name. Who is this guy? He's Brad. He has all the answers. Do you have any idea what kind of life you might have left behind? Who might be waiting for you back there? I mean do you care well, I'm sorry. What would these questions in episode one? We were these questions right after this will happen between Loki the big characters You're just a know where man This is annoying me because all of this stuff should have been discussed by all the main characters by now He's just slapped him. I can't believe like it's brought up by fucking Brad Brad Like Brad and Brad is the one who managed to get a rise out of both of them, you know Yeah Mopius lost his temper like he got pruned and he wasn't even that angry but Brad They should be having questions like even if you lived a fake life the whole time Is they're meaning in the fake life if you thought it was real the whole time? Where are we? I was following you One of you was in front of the other Mopius you were clearly ahead of me How about a slice of pie? I thought they were gonna make another joke there. I was waiting for it But I guess we gave up on it. I gotta sit down and have a pie and talk about their lives Oh, I'm key lime pie. Does anyone remember that from Dexter anyone? I'm sorry It's the key lime pie room a room for key You have an entire room dedicated to key lime pies, especially when they're stored in such an inefficient way How do you know it could be magic? Well, if you have magic then surely you could do better than this Who just his job is I make pies that's me But now if I want to eat pie with someone else and we don't want to have the same kind of pie We have to like It won't taste right in here. It's talking about Avengers. Why what's going on? He just said the you got so angry to him. I've been angry before I did that whole thing in Avengers That's so fucking lame. I'm so angry with my father and my brother held the whole of New York City hostage with an alien army They just need him to Crossify everything is ever done. I just don't know why that I mean that is on brand They do that with basically all their characters at this point and any of them with a long history We're like, well, let's ruin it by making fun of it or ignoring it Does the pie room need salt and pepper shakers? Optional, you know don't you want to see the life you're supposed to live before they kidnapped you and brought you into the TV Why wasn't this the first scene of season two? Fuck it be bold It's too chill be bold have them both discussing the realities of season one with a pie the tv Hey is the only life I've ever known I like it Seriously unbelievable that we're doing this now, but I guess better than better than never We could explore that mobius like legitimately doesn't care about some past life He doesn't even remember and every part of it. He's like no like my life is here. I like it here That's an old Thing that I just don't I just don't even care to know he's definitely the most interesting character They could just open up old wounds or it's something I can't go back to or like why bother I just oh, yeah, and it could turn out that he did know about it He has checked it and he did not enjoy what he saw sort of thing x5 is gonna talk We just have to find the way in all right So what aren't we asking this time? No, you get it you start poking him and then you see if that works and then you start Putting things under his fingernails and then you just work up from there x5 is a good hunter So does it really make sense that he could spend all that time down there and not find sylvie? What Mobius just said was absurd. It's like, yeah, he's a really good hunter He couldn't have spent that much time on earth and not found sylvie. It's like, yeah, he could Do you know how big earth is? Earth is like a star wars planet where everyone meets at one spot of it This is again for claiming that sylvie was on earth in this timeline of all of the timelines in this uh multiverse He's the only one who knows where sylvie is. Oh, what? Okay. Why does he think that? I'm just gonna make him talk. Well, come on. You're the god of mischief Right. Oh god. We're gonna do wait. We can finally reference it. We're gonna do soba. Maybe convince him He's talking to a friend by Loki's illusions. Can you imagine they were like, let's copy his braid into a disc and simulate all the ways we could possibly do See I just like the the amount of work that went into the sets for the show really neat Yeah, I mean, it's probably the best-looking marvel production since like I have a feeling This was the last one that they're putting that kind of effort into because it was successful the others they sort of like Throwing out quick. Yeah Yeah, but it's it's weird, isn't it because this show is this one way more expensive than the other ones I mean secret invention cost over 200 million dollars. Yes. I assume the money That was just like place about the approach seems like those were just like houses Hire the right people and give them the right amount of time. I guess in those respects anyway Yeah, this looks like effort back here. Not specifically budget. I got this definitely seems like Yeah, sleeping on a great is ironically not great. Yeah, but brad can handle it. Hello, Loki I'm ready for round two. Something I was curious about is is he allowed to hurt brad and if so, yeah We would have gotten our answers real quick if we had original Loki. Oh, yeah Oh, no, I thought that was a sort of device. Yay. It's actually oh, it's a vacuum cleaner. It's gonna suck off his dick I'm glad they did that's a good joke though I'd be careful about because just from that alone that I'm like, okay So the scene we're doing isn't going to be a serious like torture thing. It's going to be a funny thing He could just run out the door. He could just leave Take my chances with those two mooks out there Well, he's got that neck brace on that means they can they can zap him back This is cute. Which one of you came up with this little script because you're a tough nut to crack Yeah, you're so tough. You're so tough enough to crack because last time we asked you and you didn't tell us Yeah, that was really made you tough. Yeah, you're a really tough nut You know like when your parents are like, where did you go? Uh, why were you late coming home and you say I'm not gonna tell you and your parents are like, ah Our son's a really tough nut to crack and then they hit you with a hammer and you're like, okay. I'll tell you Oh, fuck. Yeah. I was at brad's. Jesus Christ Hey, open up Oh, wait. Loki's going on. This is part of the plan. I have a feeling. Yeah part of it. Yeah, that's right They're doing the ruse. Hey You sniffed us out brad. I would even prefer to go the route of brad figures that out He's like, do you really think like like and then and then Loki says yeah I kind of thought you would figure it out and then actually torches him and then mobius is like, no, no, no, no, no Get out of the balls for that mother. Do the double triple cross. Come on It's kind of isn't it weird that like you couldn't lock someone out of getting in? Yeah. Yeah, that's dumb as fuck Unless of course you can't and that it's all a ruse from uh, I would I imagine this is a ruse Oh, it has to be but what I guess I'm saying does brad think that any of this makes sense just logistically I'm not trying to be a hero brad I'm a villain. Oh, you're not a villain. Stop it. Is that the vacuum from tele-tubbies? It does look like the what's it called the machine that makes the milkshake or whatever the fuck it's called I said some really hurtful things and I brought up another. I don't even know. It doesn't even look intimidating It looks like well, it's supposed to be funny It does look like it cleans rugs Like I said, it's supposed to be funny So they're gonna have to really work hard if they want to go serious. You can just push it over. It looks like a break What? Don't just touch random buttons on that. Okay, mobius. Get him I would really prefer if uh brad was just like do whatever don't give a shit Turn it off. What if brad's like I know you're not gonna kill me. Oh, yeah kill me and you don't get your information So I don't know where docs and the others are Okay, I don't know brad. They're obviously not gonna kill you. I've done some terrible He keeps saying this. I mean this uh this like insecurity on the part of the right I wonder if a payoff for this will be like Wow, it felt like the real Loki in there the villainous and then you'll get like an expression from Loki or he's like Yeah Maybe remember this season's about Loki finding himself. I swear. I don't know where they are I want to believe you but you're just you're such a good actor This is like the real Loki doing a cosplay of the old Loki. That's what it feels like It's just like I want to see zaniak. I want to see the marvel Writing's version of a bad show when all they make is bad shows when they try. Maybe that's the key I was supposed to go look for Sylvie, but then I I I bailed. Okay. I bailed This isn't even particularly that Intense on part of the audience members. I think like seeing because I just don't believe you'll ever crush him I just don't believe it. Yeah, the way you can kind of fix that is uh hide or something Well, imagine you'd crushed his hand you put a box around it and just crushed it Be fucking horrifying start with that start with that so we can take it seriously. Just tell me where Sylvie is Well, I guess now you can stop back before it turns shitty. I like how you let him go and he hadn't got the information yet There you go Got there in the end like is that it show so you got yeah, that's the teeth You said you bailed on the mission. Yeah, but I found her first She's on a branch And the branch is on a limb and the limb on a tree a tree, you know He was all apart of the plan ha ha, but but then they'll have that line Like I said, it's like I really was convinced for a second that you might kill him Loki and then Loki'll be like Yeah, wow they fooled brad, but they didn't fool the five of us watching the show The truth is Mobius. I did let a little of my old self out there. Please don't watch many Casey the only fucking person who works in this Hey, nice to meet you. We're all gonna die. It's funny The um bad cop going off the rails, but it actually was on the rails the whole time It's just something that so many shows have done and to the point where it's even boring If you do flip it and he does go further off the rails than off the rails Yeah, even that it's kind of you know, I probably would have preferred like he Loki punching him and Mobius being like, oh Yeah, okay. I guess we have to I don't believe the tv a handbook is that small by the way It looks like it's only like Boris is a dumb fucking name. Yeah, look at how small that is. Maybe the font is really small writing. He's really small Yeah, it's really it's single spaced the containment door is a lot So without miss minutes to help us override the lock or stuck. Can you use a large gun? Yeah, or can you melt it with a dark saber or a prune gun? You know the thing that melts everything can you put the door in one of those boxes? And squeeze it down and crush it. I'll build the device But you need to find a way in or it won't matter. Okay, mcdonald. That's their side quest then. Yeah, see they did the thing Look, it's oklahoma, not america Because you know that oklahoma is in america, but you don't know that london is It's pretty funny. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're calling that perfectly. There's so many things that do that It's I don't get it. Yeah, because it should have just said oklahoma america, which would be like Nice truck, that is a nice truck. Like why would you even need it? You got an american flag there You got a ford there. You got a mcdonald's in the 70s. Yeah, it's pretty blatant. You know Yeah, that was what I was saying. Sorry. That was that is an american flag. Yeah, you're right Oh, yeah, this you probably figure all that, you know, I think it's double fucked to have the initial shots being an american flag in there And you you need to tell people that's that's too much. Come on. You even take you 30 seconds to figure it out That's more enjoyable than just having it straight up told to you and let's be honest if you didn't figure it out Is anything that what do you do? Yeah, like you're okay. This works here now Oh god, I can't even express how much I don't care It's a little unfortunate because I'm more than happy to just pick apart what's going on with these three and obi and stuff But with here, I'm like here we go This is like the alice segments on batwoman when I just want to she's nuts and amazing and I don't care For a soka or I'm just like as soon as she's on screen. I'm like fuck. God. They're treating this like it's so Deep wow, I don't care. Wow. Oh my goodness. Oh my gosh. Can you believe it? They reunited after all this time After a lot like a week. I have a number two no pickles medium fry and a medium coke Listen, I haven't got all day. Are you gonna order something? Oh, are they memeing? Can we talk? My break's in five minutes. Oh for a second there. I thought they were gonna be like she's um, she doesn't remember it or something Imagine if she said It's a short break. So talk fast. She's still a bitch. It doesn't matter. Yeah. It doesn't matter what dimensional universe Do you sit on your coat like that you fucking barbarian? Yeah, pull that up like fixing nobody sits on the coat like that. Yeah, it makes it awkward to like lean Yeah, the leaner moves. Yeah. Plus it gets all your like you're just like It's like pressing dirt and grime in and it can damage it too. You got to be careful I uh get on with it. No, you got to wait. I haven't come here to make trouble Then why are you here? Oh, but I don't know because you're at mcdonald's Do I understand what you did? You created the multiverse silvi I've been pulled through time between the past and the present. I feel like that's not even the first thing to talk about It really is the multi first part. I just get to the point like silvi. I was in the future And I saw you does that matter that could work anything burger king the tv a is in danger and you was there I need to know why so you see the future now cool God, I hate her so much as much as I'd love to see the tv a burnt to the ground I have no intention of going back there. I'm happy at mcdonald's. Leave me alone. She's going to reject the call to adventure What this is her hero's journey. Is it fucking probably it's the future. It's going to happen Is it that sounds a lot like the future's already been written and we both know that it hasn't not anymore Do you? Like how do you know if you and I don't work together on this? I can't guarantee you've been alone Enough coming here with your tv a bullshit man. She's just so likable remember when you stabbed the guy in the castle And it made things happen that you don't even you stab the magical cloud in the space castle It did things things that made the time go all flimpy and now the world might end or something And it might be because of you you can't just run away to mcdonald's I thought you were setting us up for an ambush. Hell you were just setting us up for a great meal That feels uh feels a bit product placement. He doesn't it you setting us up for a great meal I thought the the joke is that wow mcdonald's used to not be shit. Oh, they can't do that. No it's the sponsorship No, like for real they wouldn't be able to have that line and get the sponsorship They'll be like man mcdonald's hit speed is amazing in the 70s as it is now, you know, whoo-hoo. I sure do love my mcdonald's 50,000 locations worldwide or something 40 billion customers said And now here we are Enjoying a meal like gentlemen gentlemen don't eat it mcdonald's Well, I guess those guys in the back look like gentlemen. Oh, it's the hamburgler. Look at him over there Great guy stealing people's hamburgers gives them to the hamburglers They even have the tree around in the 70s or did he get married like later? I think it took a lot of time to create such an in-depth character like they had to really focus What happened those guys? I don't use them anymore the mcdonald's family. I think a lot of them died They got old man Is this a setup? Hey What's going on? I'm drinking my water. Oh my god. What a twist. He led them here on purpose To get them in trouble or something. You know, I think the other the other tba guys are going to come in here Give them a signal and know they Maybe she'll show up to get by the zaniacs getting a sequel and you're both invited Hey, I would like to see zaniac and zaniac too. We can wait all day No, we can't we need to talk about this back at the tba. Your break was five minutes silvi Get your ass back in there. I mean we're getting closer and closer to the end of the episode Is something big gonna happen? Nothing has to happen. We are all gonna die. Oh, is this like an apocalyptic event area or something? This is god All this for silvi? Oh, no, she does it. Okay. Why didn't lokey do this? Because he sucks. I can't remember. Is that a lokey? But I seriously have no fucking references anymore They're gonna bomb every branch including this one. How how could they blow up every single branch? Aren't they like countless Oh, look, she had nanotech I don't even think it's nanotech. I think it's wizard tech or whatever. It's nanotech It's nanotech. It's even if it's wizard tech. It's nanotech. All right. It's the same idea. It's the same principle Well, you just mean cg suits. Yeah, she has that because of her wizardry. That's which to be fair lokey had that and i'm fine with that Illusions, but but and she's like female lokey, right? That's like a power set but also other stuff because she learned magic and shit Oh, I guess we get to have our action scene then I don't care at all this all means nothing to me. This doesn't solve any problems, right 30% of the branches this doesn't prune 30% of the branch 30% of infinity. How do you prune? infinite And also that's like trillions of creatures, but it's and it's really hard to actually express It's like trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions infinitely like it never stops Lokey use your fucking magic or get off the screen man tired of watching lokey. Why isn't lokey yet spawning like a million lokeys It's just like How it the time it takes to prune a timeline a billion billion billion billion infinity have been made I just don't understand how this could possibly have but they can't even if they prune all of them They'll still be new ones because that's like the nature of what's happening. Yeah, tva have no music Yeah, what's with this music so epic like this season eight finale like waiting 10 years for this shit. You see that That was a stupid just threw it in prune the game. Where does he go? So he goes to the planet Don't ever think it Oh, don't you dare pose What did you just do what is that? Is there a mana class like who knows? I like how she said when you build up don't overthink it to use your ultimate Don't overthink it Oh, we gotta I guess there we go if it worked that way at least that'd be cool to know But we just have no idea anytime they do imagine isn't that so strange the way that that played out because technically what happened there Is they saved like almost? Yeah, basically countless lives But you wouldn't think that that's what actually happened in that scene because it played out so quickly and undramatic Yeah, what do we what's what's happened? What are they looking at? What's happened to the timelines? I have no idea what the reveal will be. It could be anything They will they're all oh On the timelines are coming back how? Those are people. Yes, they are Yeah Thank you I I can't but like season one is fucking blushing it right now in terms of like shut up We didn't want to acknowledge all any of that shit. This is how it's always been. This is what you've been doing It's unreal. They're supposed to be people, but they didn't realize until they realized or whatever To kill a great timeline isn't just to kill everyone that's alive. It's to kill everyone who was ever alive in that timeline Oh, they got it now. I guess also just how is the secret timeline looking like that? How is that possible? How was it that they were able to with that few people destroy that many timelines? Did you see there was like one branch? It's like why is there a bazillion branches? There's many multiverses that have been destroyed. Is android garfield. Okay, so is this the best you lock and do There was nothing we could do Some defense shut up you carry the man in the castle. The tba is the problem It's broken. It's rotten You're rotten. I'm going home If it's still there, please don't it's harder At least she's gone for a while. You say that I feel like she'll be back beginning a next episode This is what I say about the mcu being like the nightmare dimension when it comes to like franchises and stuff Look at how casually they just erased countless trillions of people and surely this significant event will be registered in other You know projects because I mean it's not like the tba the only people paying attention to the multiverse at this point It's so weird to have them actually acknowledge the reality of the situation for once. I feel like what's happening I'm confused when they never did that. I never did that in season one. Hey silvi. Are you okay? Just want to check he seems like a nice fellow. Maybe he'll be killed horribly or he's evil Is your mom on her way to pick you up? Yeah Uh, if she'll be here as long as the meth ain't set in no go back to chuck. I want to see how She can't refuse the hero's journey forever because she is a hero as we know a piece of shit is what she is Why don't you attach yourself to silvi in any way? Riva was retarded, but at least they attempted something with riva. Yeah, you knew you knew what their plan was It was so bad Well, maybe it does stem from I want this to be a show that goes through multiple seasons But they have no plan because the mc doesn't really have a comprehensive plan. At least I don't see how it could at this point I always love the uh, the insane list of producers executive producers and co-executive That guy's name was Tommy turtle. He's a good name. Good name. What a what a Chad I could even make anything of quality show, but you know, but you got like a million producers like that man Like I always just go back to like ordering a pizza before people was tough enough Oh, you're right. Tommy turtle. Yes, Tommy turtle. I'm just trying to figure There's so little to speculate on too. It's like what's gonna happen next. It's like, I don't fucking know I mean apparently we we fixed the whole problem with Loki teleporting around But now we need to fix the temporal loom, but the door is closed because it's only getting opened by the aura of the guy who Builded which is Kang who's dead. So that temporal loom problem, right? That's been like delayed significantly Because of all the timelines that got obliterated. It has to be right. I mean, that was the problem There was too many of those branches and now they nuked A lot of them But the problem is I think they're gonna basically forget about this massive basically infinity war level Uh, like consequence next episode will basically be like it didn't happen. They'll just move on as normal I don't know how you do stakes with this kind of show, but they're not even trying No, they've given up on that a long time ago. See I'm this Brad guy. He just he was one of the people He was I guess one of the tva guys who was hunting for sylvie and he found her But then he was like no when to make movies Okay, and even when you guys were saying about the um the black lady of like she should feel a certain way about this because of the Revelation and the first one. Is that even the same version of that character or didn't I think so I have no idea Loki explains what happened to them both right that everything is fake and that the tva people take like that's all big revelations But like we have this is what I mean about the fact that brad brought it up to like torture these characters when it's like Where were their conversation? Then we do it after that scene, but only briefly and basically mobius says like yeah I'm not interested in that. It's like, okay, and that's really all I had to draw from that episode Anyway, because the stuff that I feel like was still could be used It's just they're not doing a very good job of it the rest of it like trying to generate a plot out of this absolute soup is uh Is difficult that's why I mentioned that lady because I think one of the one compliments I can give the first season is like I kind of felt something during her arc Just for a split second the idea when she realized that it was all a lie She actually took action and she wanted to find out the truth And when she's told silvi that she saw her life and she looked happy I was like, oh my god, I kind of kind of feels something for a second. I hope this lady like figures this out I just like the fact that she once she got the answers she took action and where's that character now She's just an npc in the background doing nothing. I thought she was actually gonna have some agency So they realized they were starting to prune all these Or grenade or whatever the fuck they realized they they were doing what they've been doing since I know And now they were like, oh, no, we have to realize it was business as usual Yeah, but they're like, oh, we need to stop them and only low key silvi and mobius go Like no one else is gonna go there teleport to where they are They've been building this tv a thing. It's like this big organization, but it's always those three solving all the problems Yeah, like nobody else works here that guy gets way too much green time It would go a long way to have a wider cast of tv a characters instead of going back to the same two people over and over and over again Yeah, different takes especially because yeah, you could get their perspectives on what's happening with the time stuff and what they're doing and what the point is and As much as I as much as I hated on the the character Renslayer kind of provided that in the first season where she was different from all the other ones We released you got different perspectives from each person It just feels like everyone has the same personality in the tv now and there's a four of them If you had a show where they were going to all kinds of different places Like guardians of the galaxy one of its big strengths I think is all the cool places that they go to if they had Them going in the show to all kinds of crazy places all over the cosmos And then one of those places was just a 1970s mcdonald's it would feel oddly Far more fitting and it would be really cool that oh this one's actually this one's on earth in the 1970s And it would feel more Appropriate that the randomness just kind of put them there instead of oh we're on earth again It's like the most important place in the mcu Especially with marvel you have all of these wacky places on the cosmic side that you could visit But you just don't just seems weird part of the reason I feel like we should be hyper critical Specifically star wars and marvel because both of these are like the potential for ideas is limitless You could do whatever the fuck you want and you do you know It would probably Serve them well to do that because they could reference places in the comics And you can put that in the trailer and get people hyped up about the possibilities Even though it probably won't amount to much The way that they write these projects But it seems like it would make sense if you visit Locations from the comics that are in different places in the universe That'd probably be something of a selling point for the show They give them points for every little thing that they do Oh, they gave them points for uh They give them points for like two or three seconds in uh multiverse and madness When they were going through all those different universes So like even seeing those places for a couple of seconds got you something So imagine you had a whole episode that was set in one of these locations This show would be an acceptable framing device to go to a lot of places that we've been to across the universe as well That's a strange experience with these shows like you'd think um, yeah Secret invasion one of my big things with that was like it just shape shift This is one of the coolest things you can do in a story and like you guys had no ideas for it They do nothing with it I'm tired of sci-fi Having no creative ideas. They're opening scene being like everybody's a scroll, but not you fred Wait a minute It's a point that I trust deeply with everything. I can't wait to tell you about all those crazy shape-shifters out there. Oh my god Yeah, that's so stupid. What a shitty start and just matter information, right? It's like seeing um I don't forget his name bilbo new bilbo Milbo on Freeman seeing him you're like pretty sure he's not in the whole season So this is just a meme like a like a he's gonna be a scroll. He'll be killed or something and that'll be that There's just no layered right and ever with this stuff That's what I mean like we have the same in this right like the single dimensional sort of loki. Don't do it And then it's like ha ha tins out that was just a ploy remember how he said you're a good actor It's like no i'm an analyst because he did some acting see The opportunity for suspense with loki. They're just pissing it away because you just we don't believe him anymore But it's like that's not you like you don't actually enjoy it anymore It feels like they're trying to tap into that now because like maybe the people who complain about the first season But it's just not believable anymore. That's why I was saying this feels like Like the real loki doing like a cosplay of like the old loki like pretending to be himself But that's not you anymore. You're soft. Yeah, it does feel like they're weedling in a little bit like hey You know, we remember who this guy is But was right you like this guy, right? But we can't have him be that way anymore But we'll tease him like because remember he's an evil villain loki would have tortured brad in the first scene And gotten his answers and the show would be an over right there Episode sure would have been shorter and you could even do it without showing it You can do the whole like mobius loki says, uh, you know, give me just I just need 10 minutes alone It's all I need and then he's like you cannot hurt him in a permanent way and loki's like I won't and then we come back and you know, it's on the actors, of course But brad could look absolutely terrified when we come back. Yeah, I always reference reservoir dogs The you know what which um, we're seeing i'm talking about the torture scene Suck in the middle with you. Yes. Yes, you know, I know you don't even really see a lot of it It's just more so the performances the music the screaming and the way they shoot it You don't need to show everything But if you have creative ideas you can do torture scenes and such It's one of my favorite ones and like if they're not willing to like have that those type of teeth At least have the creativity to give us the illusion of violence But everything has to be so soft and so nerve and even if they like if they acted Enough with a serious threat That would have been like you can have just threats that are really dark Yep, you know like here's what's gonna happen. Give them the speech of here's all the things I'm going to do to you So tell me now and I won't have to do them. That's a lost art form like the villain that can torture. I agree True Secret invasion Actually did it properly But it was because they had other goals not because they were trying to make a good Torture seed they actually had to get her to get the information out of him quickly And they needed here to confirm he was a scroll which that was not the best way to do it But it kind of works in terms of fighting that out and giving a very credible threat to the kind of damage You're gonna do remember he even he even stood by with after losing a finger in that until she made his blood boil with some kind of Injection that one that would be one of the ones that referenced for a decent modern Yeah, isn't it crazy though? It's like oh you did that right in an among the same show terrible shit But having someone who can get the answers just like regs regs was saying earlier just with their mystique and like The words that they used intimidation threats and intimidation just being able to do that and make it convincing We don't even get to the violence I miss someone who can just get the job done and like really command. It's just competency I'm we love it when we watch these shows and we just see someone who's good at their job because it seems to be such a rare Thing these days that someone's just competent. That is low key season two episode. That's low key everyone Love it great stuff. Excellent. Thanks. No fucking. Yeah, I think I wonder if this is going to be the kind of one That one with through it would just be like Oh, well That was a thing. I doubt I'll ever think about that again kind of like a soka, but a soka annoyed me more with its boredom I don't know if this one will get there. We'll see because I kind of like the actors Yeah, I saw that in mind That's true. Yeah, there's been they're gonna go nuts No one's gonna keep this pace and then just go crazy Don't they release like four episodes to critics or whatever it's like because if they already had two Be like, what are they gonna say about this show? Nothing's happened really? Yeah, true Bye See you later You lose You lose her damn it. He got me. What'd you bring me?