 the meeting to order at 5.35 p.m. I'm going to skip to the board rig or organization as I try to have the lead of the board for the least amount of time possible so I'm looking to have any nominations for a chairperson for the Eastmont Pillar School Board. I see a second. I was gonna ask if there were any other nominations. I kind of felt like we should ask if people want to keep what they want what they wear because there's a lot to it and I know you're on other boards. As long as everybody is okay with what I've been doing I am happy to keep going. I'm happy with you. You just don't want to do it. I gotta say I've always had an interest in being in Berkshire but I know that there's going to be all the transition. 46,000 stuff like that so I did want to I know that I've mentioned this to you a year but so I just want it so I'm not happy. Right now I you know it's just a Hopefully you don't have as much access to any more options. Yeah so I'm not but I'm not looking for an out at this time. I will be honest that I intend to run my term out and then I'm probably going to tap out. When's your term out? Not this March but the following. I was re-elected to a three-year term last year. So that's kind of my long term plan. Short term. Just discussing it might make sense. Maybe next year. I know that might make sense. You could support someone in everything here. Orderly transition. Yes. So it looks like we're at the end of discussion. So unless there's any more. All those in favor of Ruben Bennett being the chair of the East Montpelier Board signified by saying aye. Aye. Opposed to abstentions. Congratulations sir. I turn it back over to you. Thanks. That will bring us to two point. All right. Yeah. We'll finish the re-order. Yeah. I second it. Is there any discussion? It's forward. No discussion. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. I'd like to clerk. I nominate first to someone else. I nominate Wendy. I'm not making any changes here people. I'm not making any changes. I'm still getting used to it. So maybe next year I'll offer to do some more. Aye. Is there any. Did I get a second? I don't think I did. You did. All right. No discussion. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Aye. We probably should have just done this as a slate. But I'll warn you when you get down to two point eight I would like to do some context setting. Okay. And two point five. Yeah. Or two by four. Sorry two point four. Okay. Establish time and day of regular monthly meetings. Right now this is working. Yep. This day. Time is, Felicia and I will do what you need. I think I can say selfishly for the two of us. Five thirty is great but whatever works for you guys. Five thirty is a bit of a struggle like it was today. But as long as you are okay with me occasionally strolling in a minute or two late though, let's not mess with success. Okay. So third Monday at five thirty. And then according to the schedule that we've already laid out do we need to specify that or just. So here's what's going to kind of happen. I said this to every board so far that's met is that I learned from two years ago I made a calendar. Folks didn't like the calendar because it would get altered. So last year I didn't make a calendar. I learned that that made even more chaos. So on Thursday when we have our executive committee, guess what I'm coming out with calendar. So but we will try and it's going to be a discussion probably at the executive committee and I hope and maybe even at the Supervisory Union Board. I just want to say either way. But that we say so when are the carousels happening and we're really clear. Okay. Okay. Do we need a motion and a second on that? Yes, you do. I make a motion that we stay the way we are. Of course that's going to make my husband mad. So don't say I did that motion. You cannot say you didn't. So he's very much upset that the select board meetings and the school board meeting on the same night and public are interested. So you don't have to make that motion. I'll make that motion. I think I heard floor make a motion and Lindy made a second. Later though. Is there any discussion? They need a seven. So if we're really on our game, we could get out of here on our right. If it's a town forum or something like that. Good. Yeah. Make the transition. Okay. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Post abstain. Thank you. Establish the newspaper and locations for official posting. I make a motion. We keep it the same. Times our guests. School. Town clerk. Second. Any discussion? The three locations. It's the post office and town clerk. Right. But I would suggest that you go to two. Sorry. I didn't talk to Alicia. We it's you can we'll post as many places as you want it. But the requirement is only two. And that's what I've been saying to all boards. Yeah. Without at the risk of sounding a structure, Mr. Traditionalist, it seems like. If somebody was grumpy at the board for some reason. That could be something that they might grump about. So I wonder if there's. About the fact that we cut the number of places and so they went to their usual place, which of course would be the place that we would cut. So we'll just keep doing it and it's just not an official post. Right. We do it other places too. I mean it just. Okay. I just just covered this. We make a mistake. Right. We make a mistake. I'll tell you a couple of times we've had to do a 24 or emergency special meeting for you. It's easier, especially the town clerk with my Christmas and my relationship with Rosie and with Bruce to say, hey, can you please put this up right now? Okay. Got it. And then. So the school and the town clerk are official ones. Yeah. We'll put it at Douglas. Okay. And did I hear a second? I'm sorry. I'll say it. Okay. Any further discussion? All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. I'd like to representative and alter it to the WCSC Executive Committee. I'll nominate Stephen for the Executive Committee. I'll second. I'll nominate and the work for the all. I'll second. I will tell people that it's it would be more than beyond this year I don't I don't feel the same need to be on the executive committee so I'd be willing to look at other assignments next year just for this year I think it's important for some Okay, I have a motion. It's not entirely clear who made it Steve. No. Yeah Steve All of those in favor, please say hi Okay Like three voting members to the Supervisor a union two of them we've already selected through the executive so that means we need one more In the discussion all those in favor, please say aye Like to represent it in an alternate to each of the following W CSU committees negotiations I think this is the one Negotiate next year is a negotiating year for both teachers and ESP support folks, so there'll be that will be up and that Even though it says there's an alternate there really isn't because usually what happens with the ground rules It says once you start you're in and someone can't come and sit in for you And you try to make as many means as possible because continuing conversation And that the two times I've done it with the teachers and with the support staff That's the one they wanted to go and I actually agree with it because I think it gives you a There's continuity to the discussion. It's hard to come in on that policy usually meets the Second Monday of every month. We didn't this past month, but it's one of those things where there's been Four years ago, I think Steve when you were on this we set the goal to have all Required policies up to date within five years and to have them read Relooked at that point or within all but two policies and I believe and Linda you can correct me if I'm wrong But I think we're gonna get to the last two this spring. I think we are we're really close The next piece of work to do is what's called a policy blitz to look at all the policies that aren't required to say What do we need? What don't we need and to talk about as you lied some more? The transportation we're in the second next year will be a second year of a five-year contract I think it will be an as needed, but I really don't see it having a lot School quality currently sits with you 32 I'm going to be making Recommendation to the executive committee this Thursday, and I hope they bring it to the full board that this not be you 32 Committee anymore, but that'd be a supervisory union committee because we're trying to align all this to the school monitoring work And I really believe that should be an issue Yeah, yeah, yeah same same group same same charge just moving over from you 32 to the Union Yeah, right, but it was never never came from it was it's kind of the same way the student learning outcome started to start from you 32 then came into the Supervisory Union board and the school start start time is gonna become quite active right now I believe it'll be active next fall as well And then depending on where we go from input from the community There's gonna be a point where it turns over to the administration I just don't know exactly where and then coming back to the probably the full board I hope by December if we're gonna make a change for the following school year That's and I made up that timeline Talked about that movement, but I think that that's it's only appropriate that parents have the years and a half years notice Don't if we're really gonna be Some big switches. Yeah. Yeah So that's the work that I see and the School quality is is it third Thursday? Third Thursday policy second Monday, but all that is up to that. I'm gonna say those committees It's a little bit valuable because as we start to set this calendar again. We might say hey, there's some There's some work and we would do everything through like a doodle hole Like what day of the week during the month this good for everybody to make everyone to allow everyone It's on the committee to meet just so we everyone can play an unregulatory And the school quality just changed Thursday, right and the school start time right now. It's all over the map There's no regular That's what I know about those committees. Okay, so let's take negotiations first Believe I am on the negotiations committee Darcy thinks of I'll be honest. I'm really concerned about my ability to stick that one through Um, I've been on it And I would be willing to be on it I haven't done it the past few years because my wife used to work at e32. I can't do it because of my I'm a teacher I So So I think I'm going to nominate, uh, steve and Darcy his alternate During the discussion all those in favor, please say aye. All right Uh, policy committee that is lindy and I'm not sure who's ultimate Is there an alternative? I don't think there is. Would you be willing to continue? Yeah, I'm fine with that. I would nominate me. I'll second the policy committee. I'll second that Any discussion all those in favor, please say aye. All right Transportation Is it up for a contract now? No If it comes together Do we need an alternate alternate? No, we should have an alternate I think steven did the nomination I did the second So it's rubin and Darcy Darcy is the alternate Correct. Okay. Discussion all those in favor, please say aye. All right school start that is me And Oh, I'm sorry, I made up my own order. I'd nominate I second it who's been doing it and alternate Alternate anybody want to be an alternate? I'll be the alternate unless someone wants it You don't have to do anything if you're an alternate Thank you Discussion all of those in favor, please say aye. All right post have staying. Thanks. All right school start That is me and I don't know that we have an alternate Um, I'm happy to continue that work. That's okay. I nominate rubin I can be the alternate I can be the alternate you guys just show up So I'd be willing to support that Darcy with the understanding that next year you're going to share something You're going to be the primary somewhere next year. You can't keep being alternate Scare Right. Um, was there a second? Uh, a second. Thanks. Well, let me take transportation this year Dark time members, please say aye. All right. Thanks Um, I believe that takes us to appointing a truan officer, which by statute I believe has to be not by statute Just I would nominate Unless you want to fill out some paperwork. Nope The truan officer Alicia I know shoes All those in favor, please say aye Aye Okay, with all of that out of the way, I'm going to bring us back up to the reception of guests Hello Thanks for coming And I'm presuming that you're here for act 46 I'm here for three reasons I'm here for no reason whatsoever I invite Scott maybe he's got some other reasons he's developing Like a sweater though First of all, I just want to say how much I like the font on your name exceptionally well Yeah, so firstly, I just wanted to come to Answer any questions that folks may have about the Hearing at AOE. Of course, you have your own board representative participated in that So maybe that's less necessary here than it might have been for some of the other board Last weekend this week So that's the first reason the second reason is that Uh to his own unending joy and to uh, Aarish and Rin Stephen look is term limited in his role as the chair of the WCSU board I intend to stand uh to uh for that position at the meeting on the 28th And I just wanted to let you know that and ask for your support And if you had to answer any questions you might have about that as well And then the third reason is that As we kind of emerge from this Very long and and somewhat tiresome act 46 process I find myself Very very interested in how potentially our boards and WCSU can work more effectively together So in that spirit, I'm actually attending all the the board meetings this month that I'm committing to doing that At least three times in a year. I may be able to do it more, but I can't commit to To uh commit to more than that And it's just to get a sense of kind of how all the boards operate and and what they're talking about and concerned with and prioritizing And angry about or happy about or any of the above And it's been very interesting to attend The meetings the three that I did last week And it was on that basis that I Invited scott to join me for this one for them in wednesday And there have been other board members burlman and and callas who have expressed some interest in possibly cross pollinating some of the meetings also, so I hope that that's a good night in time for me That's why I'm here. Thanks for tolerating So the rating is pretty low bar to set up for And even more for tolerating me Just a second what Matthew said in particular on that last bit about Warning to be able to work together The best thing about the whole act 46 process as far as I was concerned was getting to know Colleagues better working together and really feeling a sense of of common purpose In a in a very strong way And I don't want to let that peter out. I think there's so much that we can do and Especially we have no idea what the agency of education and the state board will come up with in terms of their plan We could have a curveball thrown our way Who knows but I I think To be able to have the kind of relationships that We've been able to build that are that are strong and flexible and creative and You know mutually supporting I think I think it's really great Thanks I appreciate all that you're doing and what you've just said and I think I actually share your view that Um The work on act 46 did serve an important purpose to build bridges between our communities. And I think I think it's important to keep that going so Yeah, and thank you for making the commitment to sit through a whole bunch of board meetings And firing Last just Yeah, I find that hard to believe Great Yes Yeah, likewise schedule permitting that's a pretty big asterisk for me, unfortunately But certainly feel free to Let me know Okay, um, I do believe we're on to the consent agenda It's to approve the minutes of February 21st march 3rd and march 6th We're going to make some motion to approve the minutes Of the 21st march 3rd and march 6th as a slate The only thing um, I don't know if you needed on and off but the march 3rd They were there were obvious people in the community members that weren't listed on here I know Bruce and Jay night has been I think we just put the board we could still discuss it and make changes to any With the motion as a slate We can we can add a yes, it'll be paul and jay night Jane jay night like a night and uh Hey, and roose roose job And um Ellen's husband. Yeah, oh michael michael dwayne Was callin there yet or did he come in right at the very end? I think he came toward the end Yeah, he wasn't there for I guess he was in the park Yeah Yeah Wait And I was there And I think that's it. Yeah Any other discussion? Yeah, I hit one. Um I apologize. I probably have never noticed it, but the format Of which So the heading format is different for all three. Yes Because I have three different note papers Then I sent it to We can't I don't know it makes sense It's just I look at this at uh on page two. I look at regular There's a lot of information here that's not there on the other two That I think could be valuable plus it There's some value I think we can do that I love you know Yeah, I would agree So the just to summarize the revisions it's the uh the end of these for the third And then we're just going to put the Minutes for the third and the sixth on the same letterhead as the Um Yes Is it district meeting not a school board meeting? It's a different meeting So we just make change for the third it's up to you. I can do either way Okay, so keep the sixth way there Further discussion Or sometimes I just hate those I'm not seeing any all those in favor. Please say I Okay discussion agenda act 46 All eyes turned to floor I have a man here End man But max and a really nice The secretary was really generous with her time She drove built away in the snow storm to meet with us. She was a few minutes late But I think the meeting didn't last Half an hour. It was almost an hour by the time they were We were done They asked us I guess the main points for me were that they asked just two questions that we were not really able to answer Very well, then and we're hoping to put some things together to send some information back and those the questions being What have we implemented for from the special location report that alizad me It did in 2005 11 And the other one is how many of the Efficiency opportunities that were given to us in the two efficiency studies that we actually implemented and the process Of implemented, but they want it like this year and really want to talk about it She wanted a number is it five is it six is and you know, we all found ourselves a little bit That by that but then in everything else she was She did say at the end that she understands like takes people to to to move things along but she and Donor Russo and brad james who was there too. You know, we're pretty strong in what was the data And one was that we had presented to them It was that cordial conversation, but I really there's no way to tell what way Which they want to keep the conversation Going so they were very generous to say you can submit materials if you want to add extra to what you have submitted from From the report, but other than those three questions that really took me those two questions In everything else we were able to to To talk About it was basically we we did that we made a decision as a as a group that we were going to do it based on On the report we didn't try to just a little Talk about how to convince them about anything we were very we were there to listen to answering questions and Start to Add something Either way, uh, please I'll just repeat some of that Some of that they put my gut feeling I love the meeting I could just stay away from that which I'm quite wary of but uh, I usually have been saying that I thought Secretary it was a very professional meeting. I thought the secretary was very I took her to be very sincere By which I mean that you know she seemed very motivated to Do things that will produce better outcomes for kids and will save money I think they're quite serious about that and don't want to leave opportunities on the table if they they see them I think would be fair to say that from their questions and The attitude that they were no they have some they have questions about our proposal Perhaps some some skepticism But I would say that they they made it very clear that They hope they're not going to talk about their plans or what they're going to decide until they've had all the the hearings and meetings because Something that they might do and Franklin might affect Windsor So I want to make sure that they are and they I thought the other sincere Part was that they really were I think listening for input and trying to you know looking for ideas and They may have an idea of where they want to go, but they're they're still You know approaching these meetings and they help in fashion So Two other questions that she asked us in because god is here We got to talk about it too is that she she just said you know what happened with those three kindergarten students from college There was there a conversation between Between the board, you know the web, you know, we're there any opportunities in the you know, I'm trying to share that Yeah, I had to You know three kids in class, but they were attending with voucher Rummy and middle sex Partners, but the kids were still separated by school. They were hadn't integrated so that was not She actually she got she cornered son the numbers she cornered. Yeah, that's It's unfortunate to not be able to tell her we actually met But you know the guy you know something so strong and I talked to you about it You know that we should have you know met as boards and at least Try to have a conversation. I don't think that that would affect her outcomes, but it was you know, it was pretty They they know as well And then the other thing that they talked to us about was the regions You know what regions we were we were and it was a very frank conversation and I can't stress how Why they knowledgeable they were all work About I feel like they all had somebody had Good questions. Yeah inform inform a nice It was not He was even handed and there was no they were not trying to trigger us or any We're prepared for so many things. They weren't pulling punches either. They were not They were asking serious questions. They were asking serious questions. So you mentioned something about vouchers. What was Oh, well, I mentioned that if we had Collaborate in my mind, but it's not totally Translate we have collaborated we call us because instead of this three preschoolers I think it was three. Oh, so I need to private But it was pre-k not k, but it was pre-k. So and she she currently pointed that out Yeah, it's about your system for pre-k. Yeah, that's because they were that that they could have gone It's certainly But what I was trying to emphasize was that there was communication but So and then that this trick Is the other thing that we talked about if you know, we know that cabot has not to us Twinkville has us to us and then they they didn't talk briefly about But other than that So she did ask about the three Next year can hear no She did directly asked about this week in a nursing. How did that class had ended up how that ended up in callus Yeah, so and it ended up at callus to stick in callus. Is that correct? K1 k1 in a two she asked us I mean I had said to florin scott and Matthew that I was going to try to stay out of the conversations there to support but when I know rebecca well enough when that she looks at me She expects her response out of me So she looked at me a couple of times and gave me a direct question. I'm like, okay Get in here start talking and she's looked at me So so what are you doing instructionally and I told her is it will have a class of 10 That's a k1 and we'll have a class of 11 to 12 that will be second graders I tried to stay just the facts. I hope I did that If I if I could just add my kind of Color from my rose color I actually quite enjoyed the experience. It was it was rather fun actually it was a nice As as Matthew and floor are saying a really informed discussion And but no punches pulled it was just Rito and it was great having in their bill and just to Not only his backup, but to be able to feel those questions that were for the superintendent for I I don't know I mean They did not telegraph anything of their intentions nor would I have expected that right, but um, I'm I'm just wondering To what degree now the process is the calculation becomes more If you want to call it political as opposed to kind of genocating in a in a mechanical way according to Rules and legal language It'll be interesting to see Yeah, I don't know if there is really any legal language or rules Really from here. I think it's put your best recommendation forward secretary For The only other thing I would add is that she said to us She asked about where we had done work together that wasn't part of state regulation or law She came back and said they're hearing from a lot of proposals similar to ours And that what we're claiming for what we're saying is our working together is what we actually have to do to work together And Matt said that yeah, so yeah, so We have to In the meantime, I think Show what we should do our stuff Yeah, but our best to look forward. Yeah, I just want to I just want to say also that uh, you know, look, they're maybe You know if we attend a film Structure We have some media incentive to Uh, you know be Acting in concert But I think our motivation And we need to do echoes far beyond correct, you know the um, whatever it might impact it might have on the act 46 deliberations You know, it's and I think that's just to just echo what scott said is sort of maybe the The most salient thing to emerge from this long conversation is that um, you know We have room to do that and we have reason to do that And we have options to do that. So hopefully we can Just grab onto that momentum a little bit One of the things I've been saying I said at callous and at berlin and at dodie There have been two actions that have been taken by the full of su board since I've been here. This is now in my sixth year The adoption and in a way that was grassroots across all the local boards There have been things that full su board has done but not through a grass work separate where the local boards came up and made a Unified voice together and one was the student learning outcomes And the second one was the alternative governance proposal And for me as your superintendent that makes a very clear message. It makes it easy to operate So I've been coining this phrase that I heard right before a meeting last week from somewhere else unity of voice And I think the best defense for washington central is a unity of voice No matter what you do If you stay if you stay together working together That's going to be better than anything else. I'm not saying it's going to win the day But I think it's your best of showing we are actually working together Because I was saying this to matthew a little while ago I don't remember when it was in the last week that we were talking matthew, but um that we The districts that have merged and have gone forward and have done a lot of work together They didn't start at act 46 They started working in carousel meetings and working together and dealing with scott matthew are here for tonight And I heard other board members saying they didn't want to do the same thing. We started working together eight 10 years ago I'm figuring that out building that culture I would like to say as a board that supported consolidation some of the rose colored glasses Bother me in the sense of We have the big report but Sometimes it comes out that everyone was in favor of this alternate Government, which isn't a big change from what we've been doing and I thought Some of it was very unpleasant through the act 46. I mean, I think people know that And I'm glad to be moving toward A more positive But there are some people who believe 32 board members for 1400 kids and having board meetings almost every night of the week is a little much for A supervisor union or a district or whatever we become or we're called and I just you know, I read the report with the Secretary I think it'll be interesting to see what the state board does Where it goes forward because there's so many Areas similar to us in size that have consolidated have reduced board numbers And are getting along so that's my but we as a board did Say we were in favor of consolidation and There was not overwhelming Against in that survey it was not There was not overwhelming and I when she questioned How do you know you didn't take it to a vote? It has bothered me that it didn't go to a vote one way or the other wherever it went It would have said what the community wanted not just what board members wanted And the act 46 was mainly board members On that Not community I mean, we are community. We're all community members, but that I just Felt I have to say that Because I do think we work well together. I think the carousel meetings are a great way to go because it does reduce The individuality and the silos, but our kids are all going into the same global world and That's what it what matters is what we're getting and I think our learning outcomes are getting to that point Where we're getting similar targets for teaching but I just think it could be a little more streamlined I really appreciate that and I I think there are a lot of people who feel similarly. I think they're probably I know there are many people who you know feel quite toward the opposite end of the spectrum and fearful of The possibility of the kind of forced remanded consolidation. So what are the remaining? A constellation of opinions, but I think that what But I'm encouraged by the fact that we were able to work through What was a bruising conversation about you know many important things And and take a decision essentially Even if it wasn't one that everyone was 100% behind or was 100% popular I think that goes to bill's point about unity of voice that it's not necessarily about You know winning the day in a particular direction, but you know as long as we're you know We do have a sense that we are working together towards a common purpose and hopefully it's a common purpose that's In the direction of making the school system better for kids all across the system Then you know I think we'll be in good shape So yeah, and I just wanted to Acknowledge what you're saying little tone, but also just know that there is a kind of um There's a way of lighting or somewhere And you know, I feel very much the same way and you know that you know that having been able to do that consensus was so at least For myself really really important and that we were able to I know that People felt differently about that. We were not just putting attention on the kids But I think that it's the other way around now. We are completely focused on The the urgency that kids can't wait So we understand that all our schools are the same so all of that we had done together as person with this process was it has Make us stronger and from now on I feel like you know, I would like to We always have to revisit the past and not make the same mistakes obviously, but to to move forward You know together with that energy that that we have right now and continue to work together and not dwell too much On what could happen? So we don't know what curve. Well, they're gonna throw us So hopefully we will take that curve all forward all together, you know and just continue to To work together, I guess I would say To add to that that, you know, we have our work cut out for us But I I guess I'm optimistic because I feel like you know the That the the boards all have are committed to that work And understand kind of what it is in a sense and I'm not sure that we we have that before this process started Committed to what we're when you say that we're committed to the work of figuring this out Figuring and having work together and also understanding And being being both proactive and uh dogging pursuing those questions So again, I guess this is what I would say blendy. It's my perception So I want to be I'm deliberately using that my I'm not speaking for anyone um, my perception in my first Three to four years here was that if you asked me how to classify the work Of at least the supervisory union board and executive committee Was wanting to talk a lot about things but never really to make A big a controversial decision Let me use that adjective. Maybe that's the best attitude I there's probably a better one that that's maybe too combative And um We did a lot of studying things and study things and study things So what I'm elated at whether and I was pretty direct about what my opinion was on merging and not merging but um I'm just glad that there's a decision And for me, that's a big movement for the board Because the habit and I had heard about that habit before I came in as superintendent that had been a washington central habit for years So that to me is movement of like we're going to make a decision That we can work with it's the in decision is actually a decision And it's worse than either if you think of it as three or four side or whatever side you want to think of it It's worse than not making one way or another because it just leaves ambiguity. It's like what? I And I think that Consensus is the word that sort of described this board's journey from from a very clear statement supportive consolidation to um I would say at worst reluctant And probably that's not even a fair way to describe it Um support of the report The the consensus building work Um Came a long way You know from the time that I was on the act 46 study group to The delivery of the report a lot of ground was covered And so you know speaking to You know, what does this mean moving forward it means that we are actually Starting to find that one voice That says That acknowledges that our kids are all going to go to school together When they hit seventh grade and is is finding genuine commonality and purpose And when you've got commonality and purpose then you Can start to really take apart Or maybe better put together What we're doing in the schools so that the kids all walk in the door ready to go And that's the work that I hear You All of us wanting to continue And you know it has nothing to do with a we it has everything to do with what we want for our children in our communities Um, so that's incredibly positive to me I think that one important thing is how much more educated a lot of our board members have become like we had learned a lot from each other But also has shown us even when we had community members as part of Exactly this committee sharing with them things that they didn't know that they were actually happy You know that we had a strategic plan that you know, we had for sure like they were Not just community members for our silver members that were not really emerged in this This work, even the student learning outcomes, you know Few that participated in that and we adopted them But we really like had to dive into it To be able to put the report forward. So So that's also another thing that we can't continue to do is continue to educate and inform, you know because Carousel means and getting the huge agenda We know that not everybody has the time to read the agenda. So how we Continue that You know that pull of knowledge and information to keep it. It's easier for board members To get them to make decisions when they're really really informed and seems like This process has helped that, you know, I feel like a lot of people have died into getting more knowledge than before Project-based learning You just want to acknowledge your point I think it's important because it it mirrors the secretary's Scepticism, which is that the rhetoric all sounds pretty good But you know our actions are going to have to reflect our rhetoric because I don't see it Huge change. We have board meetings. We have some together. We have some separate Anymore on act 46 Moving on to board observations So we have talked last month. I have nothing to share with you We had talked about moving forward with this and made it to the agenda, right? So made it to the agenda. So here's what I would propose not having to talk to my colleague over here So she has all rights to give me To stare at me or even to slap me upside the head But then I would suggest that on April Our april meeting and she said may say may and she can please do that and lisha That we put together a student Showcase of some sort for you And then we bring the forms And we have you try it It's got you've been through this And that we try it that afterwards kids leave and we say thank you very much. Yeah, and say that was great That was awesome where we filmed something at least if that's where we need to go And then we talk about it and say what did how did that go? What did you look for what did you see and then let's talk debrief and we're going to do a little Authentic learning about what did you see what were you looking for? We would say that ahead of time before the kids were here and we'll go over the student learning outcomes a little bit We'll give you the We'll give you all the posters and some form or another You can then try that and then we debrief it afterwards Would that be a way of getting into this? I would love to have kids Yeah, um, the only thing is right now our board meeting is scheduled for april break and i'm Thought it got changed to the next monday next monday It's I don't think we've officially changed it. Yeah, we will. We will tonight Yeah, and so you could we could get back to you probably by In two weeks what if if that or the may but somewhere there we have that calibration training that we do something together Being the first day It's on may Well But it was it's the next thing on the agenda, so I don't know when I want to jump into that But lastly I changed just march in april from the calendar But last year we had decided that to celebrate may should be the time when we celebrate accomplishments Because it's towards the end of the years through the year and share with community And celebrate our staff and administrators. So maybe we could do What you said in april, yeah, and then maybe we could do something We could do something more in may. Yeah, let's do that. Great. Okay, so what should I do? So just the monitoring just say student ops or a court observation Should I move somewhere in Darcy so you can see I Just catch this out of the corner of my eye every so often. I'm like, I'm sorry We just need to download it So we're saying the main meetings only that kids come no no april But we're talking about moving the April meeting to the 23rd. I thought we did at our last meeting I think you did. Yeah, because I changed it and I erased it I thought we did We'll check So the 23rd There is another was it the school start to a meeting? Oh, there is there's a school We talked about it and it was there is a school start time committee. Uh, Isn't that the presentation? So if there are possible 5 30 to 6 30, yeah And where is it? So I mean we could move it later and start at 7 7 6 30 at u 32 or 6 30 at u 32 Um, I will you could easier for community members that come It'll be tricky for kids. I can give you kids with me here. Oh, that's right. That's good. It might be tricky to get them there Would you like to go to tuesday? I don't have a board meeting. I might have a class meeting, but I could ask my class to meet without me Um, yeah The 24th would that work that would work that would actually be great in case 24th is that's what I was that one day after a vacation to have them ready Okay, so April 24th 5 30 fourth meeting. Perfect. Thank you At 5 30. So Can you pull up to u 32 calendar? I can Good me you can keep talking. Yeah, okay should we move to the board calendar? No, just you're trying to look something up while you're trying to present something. That's not fair Um, a lot of softball and baseball There's no crack is on wednesday that week. I know that because my daughter's here for me Okay, did we move to the next point? Um, we can move to board calendar so I I couldn't make more copies because they copy you're just making you make four copies Do you want to share with you want to share with because I found it here? Or you do share I'll keep this to at least No, we can share I need floor to sit next to me and point the things anyway, so I Would you guys like do we have an extra Oh So what I did I just changed the date I changed the date overall 2018 to 2019 But the only the only thing I changed was march and april because I figured we would do May june so I hadn't changed the date there yet because that's why it's 17. Yes So that's exactly what we had in 2017. Oh I just thought you had a tie so I probably do no no I just thought it was no no I think that I left post 2017 So you knew that's exactly what we had there. We changed it up to 2018 now. What does that make? Yeah, okay. I did I already did it So this chair might be quick so it doesn't change so so reorganize. We already did For our community on after these six programs we did and informed our two members from next door communities And I go to long-term planning quality committee and Minor and I added that it's just because we're involved in that Works like that right now and this was something that you gave me last year student get data And quantitative data and it was in march what So it must be reports. We were looking for from the ministry. Yeah So Is mark it happened last year. What are you saying that this happened last year in March qualitative and quantitative data? No, we said that that's where we wanted to have it. It didn't happen Right, it didn't happen, but we say that we were shooting now in the school quality committee We have we're saying we're shooting for april or may most likely may For this for the principles to come back with what happened during the winter winter I think it's more of a report than it is a presentation Well, I mean the in the first half of what we're going to do in may was have the students in right? Yeah, so we moved out to april So it might fit perfectly in may What you could do I have a capital plan to share with you tonight just where we're at so you could move that to march okay, and then Um I just have an update to give you and some stuff to share with you and then the qualitative and quantitative data Just swap places those two. Yeah, it may work for alisha to be in april because of how late you are This is some of the juggling idea. We do it as a leadership team together And so I've got to kind of think about across all the boards On how we're doing this and the leadership team they will hear next week not this week for me on this Because we have two leadership team meetings in a row that say Okay, and you guys gotta get ready. We've got to get the winter data put together and do an analysis of how many kids have we been able to Help grow and where and when we haven't been able to do that faster than the rate at which they we expect them to grow What what do we know and what don't what do we need to probe more? I think that's what the thought was there that it gave time for the fall and winter Yeah, typically the fall Results to get tabulated Right, right. We're trying to really get the winter ones the january So I just want to say even though you may be ready alisha I want to make sure we're coordinate across all the schools and it may be that you are on the 23rd Because it's so late in the month and and someone like steven i do 32 as the first wednesday He can't go on like if I told steven right now for two weeks. He'd be like What I'll do it. But you know What's the plan So I'm clear and I'm changing the calendar. I moved the whole facilities update in capital plan. You can move to tonight I put it in tonight and now in april In in gold one we have the trial board observations and I'm going in long-term planning I'm going to move the data right and Then in may we're going to analyze it or should I move the entire bullet analyze and details to make our decision spending on what works That was more fun to do Well, the is the get data qualitative and quantitative on fiscal Because I mean that's what long-term planning has been that's not what steven was. No, I know it's I'm just wondering It's in the wrong Is it is in the wrong? Shouldn't it be down in the educational academic? Yes, it's good and outcomes. Yes. Okay. So sorry I'm just moving the data. Yeah in the green. Okay in the green and Those I mean That's going to be happening in april. I mean they're they're a little intermingled, right? They're a little intermingled because the data that we get from the qualitative and quantitative analysis is going to drive Long-term fiscal planning, right? Well, I would ask you Actually argue what you're going to be doing with students here in april is part of that qualitative review You the board are doing instead of asking Alicia and I to do it Okay, okay, so I'll put those together. I could get data and then review data and presentation from students and teachers There and on the communication. It's the trial board observations. And so moving to may Should I leave the celebrate accomplishments And share with community so can I I'm going to throw something in here and you guys can tell me I'm all crazy One of the things in talking to the executive committee about SU goals supervised union goals is that we need For lack of better words alignment between the SU goals and the local board goals They don't need to be the same. They don't need to be It doesn't mean that a local board can't have a something else they'd like to do outside the SU But that's part of what you know This is the whole reason is executive committee has talked from february or actually before february but february and march And they'll present some things next week And you'll be talking about them as an SU board and then bringing that And hopefully in june coming back with something that can be there I think at the same time east mob players should be talking about your goals So I know that there's I saw there's a retreat here On we usually do that in retreat and we move that back to june But some boards callus being one of them. I think dodie. We talked about this. I'm looking at matthew And we did talk about it at berlin the berlin's going to start in april about let's start Re-looking our new goals right now So because they're we're seeing this work coming so that we get into june We have a good discussion about how where are we aligned? Where are we different? How we working together that whole piece of that unity of voice Mm-hmm doesn't mean that things can't be the same or they have to be different or They must be the same but that's some of that discussion happening Because that's what I would say via I would have you swap the may The because june's going to be a carousel meeting Yeah, so that if you wanted to look at some of the long-range planning pieces fiscally Lori could come and Give you some of that And we already have since the budget's been adopted the multi-year budget packets that you see I can give I I can ask lori for those to be produced in a week and a half and she'd have them done because now we know And then it's just put It's just multiplying based on Indicators that we take for energy and other things So when is it made sense it may I mean considering the legislative action so I'm going this year it might be even more sense To put it off till june. I mean for me what I want to see For data to begin doing long-term budgeting is Our current budget What however many years the next three years What a level services budget looks like for the next three years, which we can do yeah and then Based on current legislation, which could change are there any caps that we need to worry about? the per pupils, you know all the nuances of What we know right now Helps us plan two three years ahead of time to say you know what? Three years down the road. This is what a level Funded budget would cost us And we know with these current Requirements It's going to put us a thousand dollars per pupil under and looks like we're headed in a great direction and let's go there Or it looks like in three years. We're in a world of Stuff and What can we do now? Knowing that is potentially coming in three years Let's make decisions over the next two years that help mitigate that so that we don't just kick the can down the road for Like our legislature does Does that reveal my bike I just have a question Remember this and I might be wrong, but When we moved it to may Looking and analyzing that stuff. It was because we don't meet in july Anyway, what we talked about was that if we got that stuff and we didn't We didn't have time to afterwards come back to me And we don't meet a lot So I was just wanting to bring that back up because always we get all the information We get the presentation and we're kind of analyzing there, but then we don't get That second that's why we have to reflect on it. Yeah, so When we go recruit schedule When is it retreat schedule? That might inform What we do annually at a retreat So the retreat could be we get the information in june and then end of july beginning of august We have our retreat. We've had a month to digest it. And that's what the retreat focuses on This is what we see. This is what we see coming down the road And in many ways it helps It helps inform our goals moving forward not that this is what we want to do in october This is what we see three years from now So how are we going to get from where we are now to where we need for three years to now and use that retreat to help Do some of that long-term planning when we're not pressured with You know passing Board orders and All the minutiae of the data We said some good things there for actually maybe changing the multi-year projection less Of the way we've been doing it. I as you all know, I will It's been Okay, but I'd like it to be better And just what steven said there. I think I captured it all just to say More of a projection of The big parameters less of the individuals and then If we took the nest egg enrollment projections along with a level Service budget with what we know And then what's that do for excess spending? What's it look like three years out? What's that look like for tax rates? There's a lot of assumptions in there, but at least gives you an idea of what the bounds are And that's actually an easier report to do than what we've been doing So remind me where we stand on the new software and how will that impact how quickly or you can do some of this stuff in the future? um, so It won't do this analysis going forward new software won't help us that that's That's analysis that we have to run ourselves. Okay, but it'll help a lot with tracking and The software one of the versions that we've seen has a dashboard that basically board members can get A real-time report of like where are we compared to the budget? If you want to have all that information or not, I mean And principles will have it, you know, it's one of those ways of just a lot more early in data tracking But it's more of that does more of tracking it will help us build the budget for the next year but not three years out It'll still be a manual It'll be a report. I mean it's a bunch of it's really lorry once lorry's built the excel sheets They aren't that hard from there. It's the initial build. That's hard. Got you And so a lot of this we already have built the sheets for me It's just way steven asks those questions if the board likes those questions that he was asking that to me is more of a narrative report with Here's a couple of graphs, but here what they say here's what they say to me As your superintendent presenting them to you do you agree with my analysis or not? And how does that help you as a board make informed decisions instead of the The multi-year budget that we give you now is Frankly, it's all coming out of excel and it's all just A bunch of factors that going there for our best projections of where we're going for spending What I heard from steven was like let's take a step up Another level and not so much about the minutiae about the functions But tell me about where we are going to be as a as a town for tax rates. Tell me how we're going to do an excess spending What's it look like with? Enrollment projections. I don't need to know like how much money you're spending energy right now I need to know are we going to be inside the limit or are we going to be pushing up against the threshold And we might have to think about where do we cut to stay within it servicing the same kids Is that what you were saying So that we can It's not november and we have to cut 75,000 dollars right right I know three years ahead of time. We're gonna The level of funding is going to put a 75 over In my mind, it's easier to right To know that and decide a sequence of decisions or how we're going to ease into it or Whatever it is and if that's june versus may Because you can never predict when the legislature is going to end. They're usually going to end somewhere in may In june, it's easy for us to say. Hey, they tweak the excess spending threshold Like right now I can tell you from the next four years out what the limits are on the excess spending threshold Assuming consumer price index. That's the only assumption I have to make right right you kind of go on the rest of it It's a calculation. It's just some fancy excel formulas Yeah So what I did is I changed I said at the end of those two bullets. I said reflect on this information at the retreat Right It's great with me. I think these are all great suggestions. So we on june we said Schedule a retreat time. Do we want to schedule that in june? Do we want to schedule it before? Who brings me to another point and I'll take advantage since matt is here today I'm just gonna email you about this. It's about maybe having uh a full war And the idea that I had for the full war retreat even though I brought this up to build before was on bias training But now I'm thinking that we should all it would be easy. We will all watch the movie Sealings together. I went to see it yesterday. Yeah, I heard you were there And I think I think that it would be especially as a retreat. It would be It'll be great. It would be a way to either even celebrate or remember, you know, it's just like a get together Watch the movie And that would be an easy thing that we could do together. That doesn't need a lot of time Well, I would be on the movie. Yeah. No, I would bring actually bring dave melanik and to do a little talk to us about that I mean that would be a Well worth it to say in june a month where we only have a carousel meeting to do that would be a good piece about how we Are we seeing our kids that are most vulnerable? Yeah, and they will inform our budget, right? Put the resources Good thinking And I don't see it as he's mobile, I'd say this is brother This is what we're talking about this is kids. I see him from the from Best outcomes for all kids We are all informed If we can help even in your interactions in the hallway It's true. I haven't seen the film. I've heard it's very There's a small youtube talk that Dr. Harris has too that is much smaller. Yeah, and it's pretty much That's that good. You just need to start googling you can get a lot Especially because the entire state is involved in this work in washington central You've done all of the school boards all of the Staff staff and budget of every building. So it would be good to support that work as four members And having dave come in Let's see if we can get dave's scandal. Yeah Okay Any more on board calendar I think if we take it through june today would be I don't know what our timing is and then Our next meeting we continue through august or do you think we should keep up? I would wait till after we get through the full board Yeah, exactly. But I would suggest in april. This is a topic For us to continue because it helps me a great deal and I think it helps Alicia too if we know The board topics for the year and it'll actually help some of that coordination of working together across boards. Okay And can I say one more thing? Yes Quantitative data tier two Yes, if I think we felt comfortable continuing to To champion that to the community Um But Good solid quantitative data on it. So particularly information around the improvements in the gap between free and reduced lunch and Those kinds of them at least whatever is available That to to me becomes really meaningful to say Yes, we are saying that it's it's making improvements and here's where you can see it's making improvements because we we Brought to spending we increase the spending right which I Was comfortable. You know, I don't ever like to increase spending so I'm happy to bring what we have the other thing that that really shed light to that was So we're taking aspect later this year than we have in the past. We're not taking it until may But so most likely that data won't be back for this meeting But in the fall is no, I'm thinking I've been thinking that was just going to be using the star 360 Yeah, we have we have all that and we have it against this the normal growth The normal growth rates. They're set nationally on the normal curve. I don't mean normal as in regular normal curve equivalents That I'm talking to her in education leads right now Okay And that's why I said we learned that so I thought we'd bring back and then why that the growth rates for those kids That have been tier two We have all of that on our data wall for winter assessments right now. So that that's very easy to Believe that brings us to and one last thing at the only thing I added in your april counter I'll email this to you with that Added thing just what is that where am I supposed to do just share right what did I the last time I shared it and So I'm supposed to just send it as a PDF. Yes. Yes, okay So is I added that there's that training that I mentioned that to government the community engagement Yeah, I know you saw me sent that out today again To all board members the one on vacation I Provided some guilt information on who's already going to I did I actually have to confess Oh I will put a shameless quality to groups that's working with public agendas, you know With quite a bit of the work of gentlemen from math you can sure I always have a hard time with last thing but a major part of my lit review, so Um, they've done some they have some promising work. They need a little more research analysis. That's what I hope to do For for resolution and support of taking action better really to access to firearms And we talked about this on saturday and our forum. We talked about it briefly again on A town meeting day And I think it would be fair to say the community members that were there and made comments on town meeting day It was strongly in support I just like to inform you that u32 and sundar scott's authorship. It's nice that he's here Um, I added a phrase at the end after some debate They've took the Montpelier resolution and then added it and passed it and sent it on to the governor and all With our local representatives the senators and the secretary of education And the last sentence they added at the bottom after It's a separate paragraph And I think this applies to elementary students We recognize and honor the activism of our students the healthy diversity of opinion among them and the civility of their debates And that's that's happening and there's quite a bit of while Stephen and flora and I were talking before the meeting about is that really applicable to elementary school? And I believe it is that is it applicable to this resolution is what I'm That's for your decision because as I've said before I think you've all heard me say before resolution is opinion of the board And I I've been you haven't you heard me say this but I've been championing this all over the place Because I've talked to my superintendents. That's what I was like that's exactly what we're talking about for me So could you read the sentence again? Yeah, we recognize and honor the activism of our students the healthy diversity of opinion among them And the civility of their debates So I look at lesion statements any of that happened here relative to currently With current No, we it actually surprised me. I had one parent call me to ask if there was any talk among students I met with the staff After you met on that Saturday. So right after break I met with them prior to the March 14th, and then we ended up having a snow day But um and just to tell them if if you're hearing any kids talk about it Let me know when we want them healthy conversations and not a single student in this building throwing it up That any adult was aware of so with this issue right now No And I don't disagree that we support that at all In whatever grade level I want children to have a civic voice and I just didn't see how it Related to this was what I was asking Most of my pieces. I'm just proud of I'm really and I it's one of the most proud moments I've had in education of Our students at U32 and the ones that are leading this and they're being extremely respectful of each other I just like that's the way to do it. I I will offer as well that You modeled Exactly the behavior In the letter that you sent That we're asking for our students to do And that's really important Because at the end of the day our job is to lead by example I don't even remember which Sorry, no that was that was Even Steven's letter Amazing Yes I must have gotten it because I'm the parent of Because we have a Steven sitting here. I know we're not talking about him. So I'm sorry I mean that's the Since about this week after the shooting That's been our plan has been and lest the students bring it up Right. One we have to be we don't have a choice as educators But two if they if they figure it out they get our support So question. Do you so after sandy hook? Did that conversation was the conversation more active here? Because I'm a student body. Yeah, do you know no I think they the older kids do talk about it, but they're very Supported of each other because there's a big variety of they don't want to offend their They're you know, there's a lot of hunters in our school and they I think their opinions are still developing and they don't They don't want to stand out, but I don't think any of them is being for my own How I think he felt like you know, there was not going to be a group going, you know the way Going out So interesting from the school I wonder if there is conversations happening that the the teachers just aren't here or the staff Just isn't here. The reason I say that is Interestingly enough at us in this morning. I had the news on for a minute, which I try not to and The bombings Was on the news and she very clearly said it's okay. We're safe. So It was an Certainly and we do our drills and I don't know if all of you saw I'm sure Lindy and Stephen did not I wrote a long letter to families in the last news So kind of oh good just about you know We don't want to make a big thing about it And we also have to be very careful and what I tell students a lot is What your parents right what you talk about at home or like what is shared in your home May not look the same as in another's and some parents may not want their children to know about some things that you may know about Just in general safety or exposing kids to things not in light of this But we we do practice our drills and you know kids do know that You know, we had two police officers here last week interviewing us. I mean they see And and we make sure to let them know that they are safe So that's interesting Our news our national well at our local news They just show way too much graphic the whole time they you know anything comes on about Parkland And they're talking about how great it is the kids are protesting in the background behind the person doing the news Is the kids running out crazily from the school scared to death as they should be Instead of focused on what the story is about The activism and going to the state house. They just keep replaying those reels And even the thing at Montpelier high school They didn't tell you they were going to show the guy get shot and fall on the ground on the news And I watched local news thinking it's kind of safe, but I don't want to see that I want to know about what's going on in the world, but I don't need to see a video tape of somebody being shot So I think that adds to some of the trauma if the tv's running 24 seven with these visuals and the noise and the Well, it's interesting because we tend to not watch the news because of that But it was interesting that I let it play a little bit longer because of the conversation That she was talking because of what she was saying and I can't remember exactly because I was asleep, but It was the the letter that steven sent it because we had to marry member sessons And I tell me I want to make sure so I immediately sent it to Andi Shapiro and carline because I knew they would distribute that because I did too And he wrote immediately can I have his email? This is really most sad I will thank him for that and I'll tell my group to not show up at u32 because they were plant They are part of the organizers and they were planning to go to support and immediately as he knew He was like, this is great. The students I didn't see what I needed to do Yeah Yeah, that's really well done because it was somewhat misrepresented at town meeting I went back and read rebecca's letter And she was not saying It was not and that's how it came across the town meeting That a letter from the superintendent and the aoe Was saying that we don't support this and that was not it made me go read Your letter and stuff. So yeah, that that was not my read either and I I had an exchange with a community member Is covering the same ground saying it's you know, my my read of it is different my read is that this is asking the Principles administrators to do the right thing by the students not Not to discourage Well, it's it's a it was a it was a delicate line to walk for sure in the memo but so the conversation amongst the leadership team because Memo, you know the letter you reference that you put in your newsletter that was done with top across principles Um, you know Stevens was and it's hard when the boards have given us the mission you've given us You've asked us to teach kids to be civically active Told us to That's what we have to support No So while we're on this talk right after being one of the ones who went over commas in While we're on this topic that would make um, what for me has been a kind of personal reflection Um, and I think a board is the place to share it personally as a board member Um, and it happened probably a week or so after the more recent one So I suppose I'm projecting this on all our boards, but for me as a board member I felt feel like we've been deficient In rsu on addressing school safety I can't think of a single discussion Board-wise About school safety and after all these shootings now I'm I'm beginning to You know and and this is nice of resolution is nice It's nice Or school board honestly remember I shouldn't be doing nice things. I should be like We need to figure out how to make sure our schools are safe And I think we need to I Am going to devote more time to it so I can tell you all to be prepared but It's you know, we talk safety is paramount But we spend virtually none of our board time on school safety I want to spend more of our work time on school safety I'll put it that way. I won't say but no for you to feel better is that we did You know, I don't know exactly what happened at each individual school, but we took that very seriously to our In redoing That's in the renovation of construction every decision we made from plus eight to spending more money closing the exterior doors The way you should have snow how much time we spend Back and forth with community members and bill blue at least I remember this about just being able to get bossed in You know, like having that conversation. So so there was a lot And then the cameras came in the cameras renovation. I would agree with it. Yeah, but some renovation Haven't and since then I would absolutely agree. We've not talked about it. We have I would say all of our buildings Are doing very well against with recommendations from the Vermont crisis plan We have two that could use more updates than the other four And that's we'll take some construction at those two schools And some you know, we'll have to really affect their entryways My Am I monopolizing time? No My view on it is on Safety issues it's always a balance between safety and accessibility So I think as boards That should be a big chunk of what we're talking about So that if the boards in the communities value access I feel like it's our responsibility to say we understand what that is to provide that these are the The benefits and these are the risks and you know, I just I I think it's a valuable thing for us as boards to have to inform help inform our administrators just like budgets Here's our priorities and if So if school safety is the priority Then it changes things you know And I'll use an extreme a massive extreme You've got a buzz to get in but it's not a glass door. It's a steel door With no windows Yeah, you know so that and that's I'm using an extreme intentionally But you know, where do we fall on that spectrum? As a Board and as a community and how we approach that and I'm not trying to suggest any particular direction I'm just suggesting I think it's a discussion that we've reached the point that we should have in our community The only phone call I've had as a board member was two weeks ago Because again personally I'm more interested in prevention Then I am on reaction And I I know there's cameras and I know there's process And I know there's training, but I'm really interested in exploring And and some of the things this that's why this resolution is nice. Some of that's what some of this discusses Proactive things to do so anyway Other side of the pendulum is like, you know Like bill explaining this letter to when you send something out to us, too That you know, we're as as schools besides building the the walls and the prison We're working really into getting to know every child and knowing Trying to figure out a way that we're holding every child hold A hold not hold hold so that we are preventing the bullying we're preventing We're understanding what is going on at home. We are taking care of their family. You know, we're not doing all of that completely, but that's To me, that's the other side where this leads is like, you know, that's where I want my resources to Before the steel May I suggest that you and I kind of put that on a future agenda topic and we could tackle that Yes, sometimes by September or October at least for useful things. I would take that as an excellent suggestion. Okay Okay, so We do have a resolution. I we've had a fair amount of discussion, but we haven't actually got a motion or a second Do we Wait, are we there? Oh where that's in the We're in the discussion. Yeah I always get confused as to the discussion and then we have another discussion when we where we adopt it That's the action, but I think we can move to the action. We are not I guess I would still like to talk about that line. I mean whether or not we're having those conversations I wouldn't be opposed to adding it to this resolution. I liked the wording of that line Yeah, I'm I'm not opposed to it. I Can you read it one more time? Uh, yes once I get my computer awake The only piece about it that, um, I don't feel like it's particularly applicable to To what I've heard is happening in the school and the conversations and at this age of kids um, and We discussed this A bit on saturday and then a little further on tuesday without that additional language So for me, I would be more comfortable and this is only my opinion not trying to But I would be more comfortable with adopting the resolution as we sort of Picked it apart a little bit on on saturday and tuesday Um Picked it apart on saturday More so saturday I I don't feel like that additional language really adds value For For this board's statement I agree just to summarize I guess Did you expect that your motion For this Resolution did you get the language up just so that we I just yeah, I don't want to override or overrule but It was by too many words of an opinion Is there any further discussion of this resolution? Seeing none, I will say all of those in favor. Please say I We have a doctor for resolution. Thank you May I ask a process question? Will you please sign one of them? And would you like us to forward them to all the folks that we forwarded it to From the u32, which was the governor of the legislatures that chair of the house judiciary The senate judiciary the senate ed House ed and the secretary of education. Yes, if I would be If you sign one pass that to me, I will make sure that happens Okay reports to the board 5.1 administration And you just have two things to share with you, um, and you'll get a full Regular report next week Um, I have a story to share with you My oldest son eden is 20 and for three years of his high school experience at u32 He mentored a student here when he was in kindergarten first and second grade Then eden graduated and the student needed another mentor. He got one from The community and his mentor is john holler who was the mayor of montpelier And he called me on friday afternoon. So he's been mentoring him for about a year. The student is in fourth grade now And he said I have this really cool experience. I'm wondering if you would mind Me coming to your school on monday with a good friend of mine. Who's a local author from middle sex? And wcax and I said, can you tell me what this is about? And he said that he made a deal with this student Who is a jock? He loves sports. He plays three different sports. He hates to read He's very good in math, but he will add and I tell you he hates to read and so john said to him I'll make a deal with you if you read three of Todd olson is the author if you read three of his books I will introduce you to him and you can meet him So the student said Yes, he was up for the challenge And he read the three chapter books one of them being on the dcf book list this year and So wcax came today at lunch and todd olson and john holler and both of both of the little boys parents And we met in in here in the library. They did an extensive interview with this student Had him and todd meet for the first time and talk back and forth and with the mayor and it was so cool. So On thursday night, I think wcx um christin said that she would let me know for sure But I think he will be on tv, which is a very big deal for this kid So while todd was here just so happens that our book club which meets every month Four through six book club is reading one of his books and tomorrow night is the book club So todd is coming back to meet with all of the kids and they don't know this So I thought that was just a very it just so I was I was texting aid in today sending him pictures I'm like, look who's here meeting with wcax And it was the student. It was very cool. So that was just my little Nice story and something that happens here every once in a while And then the only other thing I have to share tonight is Todd and I sat down for a long time over the fall And I think there there should be six. Oh, I kind of thought but just keep going. We'll see. Um There should be um, so we drafted Capital plan based on what you did to kind of perform after 10 years We sent it on to I know it's it's a little it's a little far But I just wanted to just so that you know, we have At least the workings of a capital plan We sent it to build forward and had him fill in some of the missing pieces So what Todd and I came up with were with the description column. So we have buildings and grounds We have really the limits piece and the custodial equipment So all of our furniture is in here all of our systems are in here Um What billed it for us is he really the life expectancies that he didn't know He filled in those blanks for us as well as the present work Because he had Knowledge with all of that. So bill forward was our part of the work So we did the building project a number of years ago and I think he has been employed by wcs you ever since Yeah, it's continually doing the summer work for road eight down Um Romney dodie and callus this summer. It's about a half million dollars worth of work. He did he did the browning project He did the Berlin project. So he did the basketball floors and lockers at u32 So we kept him busy. Um But I just wanted you to have this there's we don't need to go over any of it in detail. Um, but it's it's Not an exhaustive list and it's not 100 by any means but We have I think we have at least all of the Everything that's here that needs to be replaced eventually is on these less So the obvious question is how are we doing? So we have we haven't had we were waiting for this to get to a point. You see those couple cells They're still yellow. Yeah, I and then lori alisha and I were already saying just track it out We're gonna start programming If you look Five ten, you know, there's really nothing and we've been telling you that the right was the big five-year project Which we had done last summer. So if you look out Another 10 years from today's date is where things start to need to be replaced big ticket items And you should hold our feet to the fire and say, hey, we don't want to find out in november What the yearly capital you should be telling us that in september or october we can do that Can can I ask one? And i'm just I don't know why the hand dryer stood out at me, but to me too The bathrooms But just when so if something was put in in 2015 and it has a lifespan of five to seven years If you could use the five-year As the target replacement because I would rather have the money sooner or at least make an informed decision to Play the odds by a year Then if the lifespan is five to seven and we're only planning on the expense in year seven Then Potentially we're expensing that sooner than we would like or than we're planning to that's that's the only That's the first ask that I have I don't see This is a type stuff for me that begins to inform Yes And making informed decisions so for instance You know if Those dryers go five to seven years. It's five years It seems to be all right that we know in another year. We've got a half million dollars worth And we've got the money this year. Maybe it makes sense to Even though they're not broke yet. Maybe you know what I mean? Yeah, or the new ones are more efficient Look at things and right Yeah, and my assumption is the life expectancy is from the year purchase not from here The year from the year purchase. Yes. Yeah, yeah, that's correct I think that was that was the way I read so that one was in the 2022 really seven years out from 2015 Five years also right so that one actually should be in 2020. Yeah, this is fantastic We we it's all in boxes everything he'll ever need but we needed to get it on here And so that was our mission this winter And I felt like now is a good time there and there are details to work out there are a little You know still some blanks and places so we have to get numbers but Rather than because this Todd and I did this actually at the end I looked at my email November 28th And I it's just not felt like the right time so many other things But I wanted to share with you sooner than later even if you're off by 10% It's still 90% right. That's a lot closer than we've been before. Yeah And then just to give you a quick facilities update We've not touched the capital Money at all, but there's a couple of things coming up. We had There's three things really our H associates came to look at all of our so just the hardware on the doors Some things are starting to wear so we had them go through the building with Todd and look at An example is in the old art room The whole back wall they were cupboard doors. We didn't replace any of those They're falling apart. They were kind of falling apart six years ago But we knew that we didn't need to do them So they gave us a quote on what it would take to to do some work in the building It's about four thousand dollars The other thing is Todd just about had a nervous breakdown in the last snowstorm and I feel terrible for him The um tractor blew up about an hour into Clearing all of that snow And it turned into a 10-hour job for him to try to fix find the parts for it fix it and then remove the snow So that we could come to school on thursday We talked about um a Backup plan. We have no snow blower here. We only have the tractor and I said Todd that you know, that's a very easy backup plan We can't be in this situation again So he I told him to start pricing some snowblowers and he said Between one and two thousand dollars for a good snowblower to at least get us in the building in case of another snowstorm And then the last thing that we talked about We have the zender units in all of the classrooms that Andy Shapiro had designed And they're starting to need some parts replaced and his recommendation would be to purchase One zender unit to keep on hand so that he can swap it out and then take the the one that's not working out to repair it Which would be much more efficient than what we're actually doing right now So I told him I would just give you this update and let you know that it's about 11,000 dollars for all the between the Rh associates the zender and the snow blower That um, I would like to ask if for you to discuss or let us know if those could come out of capital Can you just tell me what's on well? I just noticed the zenders say that they have a 15 to 20 year lifespan so all your handling units do And they go I can tell you from experience like at u32 everything is starting to fail right now We're seeing some of that that some go early. It's it's the different parts within them And it's not the whole unit. And so what Alicia's talking about is taking a having a spare unit We have this in other places. We have in technology all over the place We walked into that closet behind you and you find some spare units You put it in you take the broken one out you get a part to fix it right and it means you keeps you moving Do the same thing with it you've got Swap the busted one out and then you take the other one in the downtime and fix it. I mean either a two renovation was 15 The unit itself is not going the unit doesn't need to be replaced It's more like a blower fan might go on it or something that makes it not work Then you have to wait for the park that you or like we don't have all these parts on grand So it's then then there's a classroom that doesn't have one in operation for a while and the reason we're coming to you because We didn't talk ahead of time on this um really the zender and uh Our associates would come out of the Come out of the Capital plan that'd be nice to have all of it and you have control over the you're the ones who authorize the capital plan We could probably go into the budget and find these things but Well, we purchased the freezer this year out of budget, which was a very high cost For our budget We didn't go to capital for that which was absolutely fine, but our operating budget in In the facility right now And we have a couple of furniture things that we need to bring out late for next year for next year Just to ask the question. Does it make sense to add More equipment or would it make sense to have somebody on retainer for that? Once in a while to have to have to have a landscaping company on retainer for the We do not actually plow. We have a week. This is the sidewalk We have somebody who plows. Yes, and he doesn't have the so we use he doesn't have the equipment He cannot do sidewalks. No, he doesn't have so I even said to bill could we like rent something from u32 in case of an emergency what it's um We need a plan b for sidewalks and in the entry ways because that is not For what it's worth. I have a snow blower with a small tractor if he really gets stuck Oh, I told him the same we have a four-wheeler. We can he cannot hurt himself like he did last week again So we've talked all about that as well You can figure out a way to If the tractor blows and harvest equipment does isn't open that day, right? It just happened to be open We'd be in um a little bit more trouble than we were. Yeah, that's something he needs. Yeah, okay I disagree. I don't want by redundant equipment that we may or may not need A snow blower. You think it's redundant? If the tractor works, it's redundant. It could sit there for five years never get used Or we could have two people out there cleaning that Tonight's not tonight, but I would value You know, I could change my mind and I think we should have the discussion And I actually agree we have a vibrant Capital budget for this reason so that we can do these things I look at that every time and even as the roof we're still at $700,000 We're in a very very very good place capital And it says that we bought the freezer out of capital on the report So you may want to check it it ended up not it didn't or didn't want it to come out of there We should have just Yeah, we we took it out of operating. Yeah I'm more than comfortable having capital requests. That's why we've got it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's really good And yeah And the doors are really important because we also be those are the only doors that we still have with wood frames too Floor one solid steel Well, no, they will have steel frames So if you're okay, I can tell Todd to Pursue these I think yeah, we you will come back with we just this novel or less So I I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna jump in here. Yeah I'm gonna be really insistent This is a capital budget I never want On okay. I want motions. You have control over these funds I've been told very deliberately by almost every board that Within the budget you administrators go do as you need to outside for funds that are controlled the board Need to be motioned and adopted by the board to tell us how to spend I Tell us how you'd like right, but I as your superintendent will not support my principles in doing something Without that direction explicitly. Okay, so I'm just gonna take a straw pool What were the three items again? So I can tell you the interior door work that needs some updating hardware work The replacing of the old our own doors is about $4,000. These are just quotes. He got they're not exact We don't have purchase orders. So what's is there any reason we need to jump today? It's work that needs to be done. We I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it doesn't need to be done Is there a reason why it needs to be approved? So let me go to the safety issue We have classroom doors that no longer latch tight because the heart we don't have on the hardware to fix them So in the in a lockdown, there are classroom doors that do not lock So the question so if I'm hearing your question right in your response It's that this expenditure needs to happen before our next regular meeting It is a safety issue. I will just say that it should happen Ideally, it'll happen Okay um, so Then the question for us is I'm comfortable with I'm comfortable with their request. I I Yeah, I don't need to say any more than that. Um, so I would ask if the rest of the board is The one I would say So that we can discuss it because we keep doing things out of order. We'll look at the doors It is not like it hasn't been due diligence and rh, you know, so I think that It's it's good to keep on top of things. So The one that I would say doesn't is not like an emergency is the zender unit I mean that we know the exact price of it. I can tell you it's it was on here at $5,000. That's um, but And the snow blower, you know, if we have another storm between now and april break Will we figure it out? Yes without a snow blower I think the the most emerging in my mind is the is the door words So I would make a motion to fund the four thousand dollars For interior Work would that be added for the door work? Yeah, and what what more do you need for the other two? Or you just want to hold on them Well, you've said we don't need to make a decision on the Well, I'm coming to you So alisha, I think the board is respectful. It's respectful for the board I've allowed to have discussions unless it's an emergency need I hear some of the board members and the board can tell me I'm all wet on this But they want to have more of a discussion The only thing I've heard you say that it's an emergency need right now is the doors And so I believe the board should be allowed to have that discussion It's up to them if you want to have that in a more deliberate process or not Yeah, but I think what you were asking was just what other information we need to make that decision So so I think Getting estimates of the snow blowers So at the next meeting have the estimate of Exactly what I personally I guess I'd like to have a little more Data on the snowblower how much is the actual snowblower that that we're looking at And part of me is it conflicted because I don't want to be operational I really just want to say I I trust you to do the job that we entrust you with That's the only one that I feel Personally that I need more information on this entry unit if you've got a straight price for it and it's $5,000 then It makes complete sense to me to have a spare unit that can be You know Taken for parts, you know the donor unit for that that totally makes sense to me Take the part out of the loaner unit put it in the for you swap the whole thing out Whatever makes sense and let Todd make that decision And you know if the rest of the board doesn't need more conversation about the snowblower, I'm comfortable with that as well That's the only piece that sort of stands out to me is a little dig and fuzzy at this moment So I I I would actually Be okay with the $9,000 and Have a little more information about the snowblower I'm okay with that too Me as well I don't have a problem with snowblower because I think when you said something about two people, I was saying yeah That makes sense to me too Get out there and get it done. There's a lot of sidewalk to clear What I would like to know Is what are the alternatives out there to purchasing a snowblower because what I'm hearing is this is an emergency fallback If it's an emergency fallback And it costs $2,000 but we can Um Rubin for $200 We'll bring his snowblower up and do it in an emergency Then why do we need to spend $2,000 for something that we may never use when we've got a $200 option to meet that need? Oh, it's just I think I think it it serves two purposes the snowblower one is we With the exception of last week when Todd was the only one here We always have our maintenance staff here and there's that's three people And it would not take 10 hours to do that work. It would take five hours to do that work So that so if we had something like that it wouldn't just sit and not be used until an emergency The other options that we've looked at He has made calls which he's done. This isn't the first snowstorm that the equipment has not worked. It's when it You all know it always breaks if there was possible time, of course and everybody's backed up So he has culled around and he has asked The people that we use right now and there When there's a snowstorm like that everybody is out straight There's no right and I said to bill could we use u32 equipment or people and he said they're just as out straight as you are here and So, um, I don't know of another great solution So our current company just doesn't do the sidewalk work Is there another company we should look at to Perform The answer the answer is yes, there are other companies that would do that work There are but part of the reason we bought the tractor with the Attachments is that we didn't have to farm out Right You can react immediately if it starts snowing at noon and it's up to get on the bus And the parents are showing up. It's a safety factor on the sidewalks. Yeah, and it's a similar discussion to what we had about the Side of the road mowing equipment for the town Yeah, right instead of trying to it's within our control when it happens. I got it Once they both break down, that's true And then we don't have a backup Well, the backup is we would we would do whatever it is. Yeah, I think our back is that is the backup I think you're right. If we're using them consistently then Are they likely to both break at the same time? Probably not although, you know I don't know what broke but this last snow was a really heavy wet snow and it was hard on a cook So that's when equipment breaks Anyway, I think we've talked this it Fairly lots of death at this point Um, so I'm gonna ask do we need further conversation about this or Well, we should have a motion Of something you have a motion. Do you make a motion for 5k? Sorry $4,000, sorry The other should be sorry just to throw a wrench in the other thing I can do is come back next month with very solid numbers for you These were just he and I sitting down and saying here's the quote from our h It's not the quote was actually for over $7,000, but there's things that aren't Necessary or you know emergencies on there. So we were prioritizing on that list. Um, I could come back with exact numbers for you. I think we meet again next week No, is there a Actually We'll see after the executive committee there might be me. Um, because that's last week So here's the question that I'm gonna ask Are we delaying things if we like is our age going to come in Before our next meeting. No, they're not going to come in till we tell them Okay, look, but we could just pass the door money and get that going because that's a safety factor I have more information for the other time. I think we're unanimous on the doors need fixing Yeah, okay. So that's one point. I have a motion and I think you seconded Do we need further discussion on that? Okay All of those in favor Of approving a capital expenditure of $4,000 to the interior workplace. Say hi Opposed abstain. Thank you. Okay, and then we'll talk about the rest of it in our next meeting. Yeah Thank you No more snow Is there anything more on the fiscal report? So do the board take I want to Then I go back to something Did the board take action for the freezer to come out of capital the board took action It was in the fall at a u32 meeting and the decision was not to take it from capital in that in the board meeting Yes, okay So then probably the note is wrong, but we'll check that out Because usually things do not Expense 55 Oh, it says roof and freezer It's just over there by 55,000 Right here. Oh, but there's it's not down the itemized list on the left. That's why I wasn't saying Okay anything else on the fiscal report Should really know this do we need a motion to accept this report? No, no action. Thank you Um, I think that brings us to seven to approve the board orders I'll make a motion to approve the board orders and the amount of 16,829 dollars and 79 cents. I'll second it That's why any discussion all those in favor, please say aye. Aye Thank you for agenda items Tiffany you got all those ones we were doing thank you More communication and I believe what brings us to adjournment that's 740