 Good morning everyone. Just wait for you all to start entering the chat. How's that? Is that looking good? How are you all going? Can you just let me know that you can hear me okay? Check out the sunshine. Check it out. All clear. Yo, what's going on everyone? Good morning. You're coming on my morning walk. How old am I? I'm 32. This is England and it's not always pretty in the morning. Most of the time it's gloomy duck and cloudy. Thought we'd do a little Q&A live stream in the morning for you guys. Just on my way to the gym. Thoughts on Jason Casino. I don't really have anything to say about him. I don't really know anything about him. Not sure. He's not vegan anymore maybe. Is he joining the trend? People like him have no credibility anyway. He's gone back to being unethical. I don't know. I have not followed his story at all. So for me to have an opinion on something I'd have to know the ins and outs. Let's keep looking through these. Be vegan for three years and turn my mum vegan. Amazing. How to convince a bit meat eaters that we can feed pets a plant-based diet. People are so horrible towards vegans about it. That's cruel. The pets vegan thing. Well there's actually a study they did on vegetarian cats and dogs. You can look it up. You can actually email me if you want the study. I think I've got it in my notes. But basically there's no specific nutrient in meat that can't be synthesised. Look at Beyond Meat. Look how amazing they are mimicking the macronutrient profile of meat. All you need to do then is add some nutrients like we do, like our own supplementation. If you mimic the macronutrient profile of meat with plants. Then you add in the nutrient profile for dogs and environment. There's no reason why a dog can't eat specifically designed food made out of plants that can help them thrive. I don't think a dog or a cat has more moral value than the pig or cow that people feed to them. Nowhere in nature do you see domesticated cats ripping tuna fish out of the ocean. That's absolutely ludicrous. Your cat does not have enough moral value to justify fishing out the oceans, killing sentient sea animals just so they can have fish. People say what about their natural obligate omnivores? Cats are not even naturally occurring animals. They're like selectively bred domesticated house cats. How can you justify destroying the environment and killing dozens of other sentient beings? There's hundreds of sentient beings to sustain a house pet like a cat or a dog. You can look after them, but if you can design a diet like we do with beyond meat. Macronutrient profile the same as meat. Not really that much to feed domesticated animals. How to be an activist online using social media? I didn't actually know that my page would get large. I'm not the biggest vegan on social media by any means, but I do have a very strong animal rights message, which is a lot harder to develop a following with. Not everyone wants to hear about their choices being responsible for gas chambering animals and stealing calves from mothers. I'm very graphic with my description and very hard-minded in my approach. But I didn't set out to get a following. I set out to inspire and to create change and I had a passion. And that's what you need to focus on. You need to focus on your message. You need to focus on sharing your light that you have in your heart, the desire to change the world. And when you focus on that instead of focusing on following, focus on bringing value and bringing an important message and defending animals, then the following will come. So that's what you need to focus on. What really do you want to achieve? What is your intention? Not, hey, I'm going to do this to get a following. I'm not suggesting that that was your primary focus, but it seems to be a bit of your focus. If you really generate your power to all of your energy towards trying to get the message out there and focus on your intention with it, what you want your outcome to be, the following will come. And I never set out to develop this massive following. I mean, I just set out. I've been taking for a lot of my life. I've been causing so much hardship and I've been an addict. I've been in gangs. I've been violent. I want to leave a positive mark on it. I want to do something that will leave a positive legacy and not like, I don't want people to remember me for, you know, when I went off track for all those years. So I had this desire inside of my heart and I wanted to spread that and, you know, everything that happened basically followed on from my desire to create change. It was not like I want to make money from YouTube or I want to develop a following. It was, if you want to follow, I suppose the reason you want a following is so you can influence many more, a lot of people, but I think just focus on your message and focus on your intention. The following will come. And also another thing I want to say is that you don't need to affect thousands of people with a post, just two or three or a dozen. Think about that. Think about talking to a dozen people on the streets, how much energy and time and, you know, just focus you're putting into those conversations. On social media, you can reach a dozen people with no energy, just a click of the fingers. So if you're reaching a dozen people, that's more than you're going to in any other, like now that we have social media, you can reach a dozen people with a click of a finger. How amazing is that? Think about that. Think about that. And if you influence two of those people to, you know, make different choices in the supermarket, you've effectively created social change. That's what activism is. Now, I think when you start getting caught up in the following and going, oh my God, this guy's got more following than me, that doesn't mean he's making more of a difference in the lives of individuals than you. You could have less following, have a more pronounced, powerful message and affect someone in a more profound way. I know I've seen people with like a million followers and not bringing much substance, not bringing something that's going to change someone's life forever. You know what I mean? But you can have 5,000 followers and you can affect 50% of them in a way that changes their life forever. You know what I mean? So it's more about quality, the quality of your message. How are you focused on, focus on, you know, how am I going to inspire and motivate people to make better choices and to help animals and, you know, focus on the victims and what they're going through. They're suffering. No matter what you're following, you'll keep going just based on doing what's right. Yeah, sorry, that opened up a big... I thought you were in jail. No, I'm all right. I haven't been in trouble with the police for at least six or seven years now. Seven years, I think. This guy turned me vegan years a year ago. Keep the questions rolling through, guys. I don't really want to keep scrolling. If I see it, if I go past your question, just ask it again and I'll just answer it. What would you do if a carnival eats raw meat at one of your street events? Yeah, that kind of depends. That kind of depends. Anyone who does that, it kind of makes me wonder whether or not they're worth having a civil discussion with. I don't really know how I'd approach... I guess it would be on a case-by-case basis how I would approach that. If they're willing to have civil discourse, then I would. But for me, it's not really that much different than... It is generally trying to antagonize a group of activists who are standing up for justice, but it's not really as... When you see someone eating Burger King, when you're sitting on a plane and there's everyone eating chicken and you've got the vegan option and you can smell the flesh and they're eating that chicken. It's kind of different context, but it's not really that much different. They're eating abused animals around you. But it's just that the carnival is going to deliberately antagonize the activist group. I wouldn't flip out. I mean, I wouldn't go, I just don't approach things like that. I mean, it would be on a case-by-case basis. I don't know until it would happen, but I would approach it calmly and rationally and have discourse with the individual probably. And I would probably be there to calm any of the activists down who got a bit too worked up because it would be quite emotional for some people as well. What if the whole world goes vegan and more insects die due to pesticides than now? Well, that doesn't make any logical sense. We're on every day because we're feeding most of the plant foods to animals and all those plant foods we're feeding to animals are getting sprayed with pesticides. So by virtue of the world going vegan would need less plant foods, less plant agriculture and therefore less pesticides. The vegan lifestyle causes the least amount of harm and the least amount of plant agriculture and the least amount of resource use and the least amount of pesticide use. So, yeah, that doesn't make any logical sense if you think that through. Thank you for the question. Please debate Dr. Zakir Nakik. Sorry, I can't pronounce that. I don't know who that is. How do you talk to someone who doesn't want to listen because they only care about their taste buds and doesn't want and doesn't want that pleasure to go away? Okay, so you're talking about someone who only cares about taste buds. So they say, yeah, this is another case-by-case basis thing. How would I deal with it? Well, it just depends. It just depends on the individual and whether or not they're willing to have a civil discussion about it and whether they're open to dialogue. If they don't want dialogue, why force dialogue? You know, it's really like why would you bang your head against the wall? Waste your energy, burn yourself out mentally talking to someone who doesn't want to listen when there are about 7.5 billion other people out there with a large percentage of people who would listen and who you could have an amazing conversation with. I just don't see why you would, you know, burn yourself out mentally on people who don't want to hear what you've got to say. But I get the taste though thing a lot and that probably would have been me like 6 or 7 years ago. I would have been like, yeah, but I don't want to taste so good. I don't really want to see that. Burgers taste good, they do. No one's debating whether or not you can make a hunk of flesh seasoned up. You know, you change the flesh so much like we're through cooking and through seasoning with plants and put it in between bread with sauce. No one's debating that that can taste good. No one's debating that human flesh if you grind it up and minced it up and add seasoning to it at herbs and spices and put it between bread with sauce would taste fine. Like, because you derive pleasure from an action doesn't therefore justify that action. You could justify a whole bunch of, you know, immoral things by using the justification it feels good. We can go into those things, but I'm sure you could think about those things yourself like gaining pleasure out of an action does not justify an action when there is a victim. So, you could mention that. You could ask them a simple question like do you think taste, do you think because you derive pleasure from an action that has a clear victim do you think that that action is therefore justified and you could ask them that question but if they don't want to talk to you move on to the next person because there's no point burning yourself out on people who just don't want to hear it like you've got so much to give give it to those who, you know, for the most part are half willing to have a discussion with you even if they don't agree if they're willing to have discourse then have that discussion with them. I don't know how to check my, there's, I don't know how to check those top chat, live chat, super chat. Okay, here we go. Is there anything in the super chat? Okay, here we go. Well, someone's given me, well, thanks for the donation. CDN the third. Keep on keeping on brother. Thank you so much, man. That's really generous of you. Hey, I didn't expect that and thank you too, Matthew Rodburn. What would what would you be? Or what or a wasp? What would you be or a wasp? What would you be or a wasp? I don't know what you mean by that. I can't, I can't answer. What would you be or a wasp? It doesn't really make sense. Maybe answering it to ask it in a different way, but live chat. Let's go live chat. Let's see at least. Okay. Which area are you in the UK? I just, I'm in the UK. I'm in England. Joey kind of slow. No, it was a joke. It was a joke or a serious question. I'm not really sure. Joey, I love you. You're awesome. Too easy. Too easy to go vegan. Vegan food tastes better and no animals rape murdered. That's so true. That's a very true statement. Thoughts on Alabama abortion ban. Like, I can't comment on something that I haven't looked into. I don't know the ins and outs of the ban and what it. So I can't comment on that. I think abortion is a very complicated topic. There's so many individuals to consider. And I really, there's so many different scenarios with that in terms of like, yeah, it's just a really, really deep and complicated topic. I mean, I'm not, I don't know anything about the actual law that was passed. So I can't really comment on it. But I do think that when you talk about a topic like that, you have a responsibility. And you need to think it through very carefully and think of all the different types of scenarios that can arise. And yeah, it's a very complicated topic. Oh, Henchy boys in the house. Henchy boys been going off lately. How are you the cutest little bean? Jaco Waco. I really like Jaco. I really like Jaco. He reminds me of my brother. He's, you know, he's a bit of a larrican. Like he, he's happy, go lucky. But it kind of was, I think maybe he was suffering some mental health issues probably. I haven't actually discussed this with Jaco and I haven't watched his videos through. But I think that he might have had some mental health issues that he was pretty open about. And alcohol and crappy food doesn't help. You know, would I, would I just completely write Jaco off as a human being? I mean, Jaco has been very supportive of my work. And I think that he's just, he's become confused, filled with doubt and misguided. And I don't see him as a complete write off. Anyone can, you know, people go through things in life and it might set them off course and they might become a little bit, you know, confused and, you know, like mental health problems are really complicated. And I think it's important to support Jaco. Like I personally think, like if he was my, my mate or my little brother or something and my little brother was going through something like that, I'd be there like, dude, like, the worst thing you could do is just have a full on go at him. You know what I mean? Like just offer you, you know, offer your ear and some advice. And I actually reached out to him recently. I was, I was actually felt a bit bad that I hadn't reached out sooner. But I was obviously filming. I was going through my own, you know, quite hectic things. So, but yeah, you know, these things happen. I've suffered mental health issues for years. I was on multiple different types of medication. I was using substances. I was in gangs. And so it's really loud here. And lifestyle, environment, diet, exercise, sunshine, those things really help mitigate the symptoms of anxiety and depression. I'm not saying it's going to deal with the root cause. But what I am saying is that it will create an environment inside of you. That makes it a lot easier to deal with the symptoms of them and to mitigate the symptoms of them. So if you're getting out, getting sunshine, getting exercise, staying off the alcohol and the drugs and other substances, vegan diet with lots of fruit, berries, nuts and seeds, you know, whole food, beans and starches and legumes and you're out there riding your bike, getting the vitamin D, you're making sure that if you're not getting vitamin D you've got like a backup plan which is some supplementation, your B12 is on point, lots of water, getting enough sleep, all of those things. You're going to help mitigate the symptoms of your mental health issues. This is coming from someone who had serious mental health issues for a lot of my, you know, for a lot of my teenage years and my early 20s. You know, so I know someone who's just like, no, I understand the complexities and the worst thing you can do when it comes to mental health issues is drink alcohol to quieten your anxiety. The worst thing, it's like, it's on par with taking Xanax or some type of anti-anxiety to deal with it. It's really like, it's very counter-intuitive and it's got a backfire on you very hard. I don't have time, I can't actually deal with any of the trolls by blocking them. So you're just going to have to like deal with it. JC, are you related to Rob Wogg? No, but I think we were in a past life. Rob Wogg, I really love Rob Wogg. He's a great guy. He's been vegan for many years, two decades. And he's a really good guy, really good guy. Vegan equals a natural diet. What does that even mean, natural diet? I don't know, if someone says, eating meat is natural, what does that mean? The thing is about veganism, it's an ethical principle. It's a moral principle. Nature has got nothing to do with moral principles. Just if you just look at nature right there, morals, we need to conceptualize our moral principle so that we go, okay, these are the moral principles we're going to adhere to, to be consistent and so we can have a functioning civilized society. Where on earth does nature come into that? Veganism is not even a diet. It's really, this is a really big misconception and let's clear this up. Veganism is not a diet. It is a moral principle, an ethical philosophy. Your diet can be consistent with that ethical philosophy. But the diet is not the philosophy. You know what I mean? People like veganism is a diet that they are completely misunderstood or not even looked into this. We get a huge percentage of vegans that don't even know what the philosophy is they adhere to. That is the thing, I eat mostly plant based or eat plant based here and they contribute to animal exploitation in every other area. People think veganism is about health. This is crazy. There's nothing to do with health in the vegan society's definition of vegan. Look it up, dude. See that plane? Captured that. Look it up. A whole foods plant based diet happens to be superior in terms of health outcomes. And it happens to be consistent with the philosophy of veganism if there's no animal products in that diet. But veganism is not the diet. There's nothing to do with health, it's to do with animals. Avoiding animal products for any reason as far as practically possible. So yeah, we need to be clear about that. But just so happens that avoiding animal products is better for health in every way. There's no debating that. Oh, there's people that will debate it. There's no question on that. Let's have a look at the super chats here for a sec. You're liking this more? Forever wishing you could come to California. I can't go to America for now. Thanks, Ted Coombs, for the donation there. You're an absolutely amazing Namaste, Joey. Keep on keeping on. Namaste, Kennedy. That's actually your name. Namaste, Kennedy. Now, peace to you, my brother. I think Namaste means I see you and it's kind of like I see you. It's more of a spiritual kind of, you know. But yeah, I see you too, my brother. Are plant based burgers bad for you as it's processed? You know, you look at the, look. I'm not going to say that like, well, not all plant based burgers are equal for starters. You can make a plant based burger out of black beans and legumes blended up with, you know, even you can make it with like satan patty, low in fat. But if you've got a, you know, something like a beyond burger, it's not really anything to do with health. The beyond burger, it could be healthier because it doesn't contain both cholesterol and saturated fat. But a beyond burger is loaded with saturated fat and oil. Like, you know, so just I would keep them to a minimum. But what it doesn't have is the body parts of an animal whose bolt gunned in the head and slashed across the throat and like mecha tons of resources used to feed these animals and, you know, just animal agriculture as a whole. Like this is made out of plant. So this is the good thing about plant based burgers and not all plant based burgers are equal. Some are super healthy. I could make you a plant based burger right now that would be super healthy. You could add spinach and black beans and black seeds and, you know, you could make your own plant based burger that would just be amazing, you know. But you can also get the ones that like filled with fat and oil and just so tasty. But no animal was stabbed in the throat, which is fantastic. So, yeah, it just depends. Not all plant based burgers are equal. Thanks for your question, my brother. Hi, Joey, you're a wonderful soul. Thank you, Vondiva, the rebel. The rebel. Hensheba was in the chat, chatting away. Engine 2 probably makes the healthiest store-bought vegan burgers. I wouldn't doubt that. They're no oil. Look, I'm not saying, like, you know, if you want to have optimum artery health and optimum health, and it's probably best to keep processed oils to a minimum. But I have seen that study reference where, like, they removed animal fat from the diet and added in plant fat, and they had 30% less instances of cardiovascular disease, which is interesting, like, very interesting. So plant fat's obviously superior to animal fat. In terms of health outcomes for heart disease anyway. But still, like, I avoid oil most of the time. Oil is just so calorie dense, and it's, you know, it makes you feel pretty crap. But, like, look, live your life. Live your life, but just be aware of, like, you know, super refined products. Heart disease, though, eliminate oil. Like, if you've got, like, you know, some heart issues or some buildup of plaque in your arteries, like your doctor says, oh, you know, you've got heart disease or whatever. Avoid oil at all costs, you know, please. All vegan products should be supported and promoted, even if you don't eat that particular brand. I'm on your side with that one, mate. I'm on the animal side with that one. Support vegan products, no matter who is selling them, no matter which company is selling them by the vegan product. And even if you don't particularly eat that, even if you don't particularly eat that product, don't oppose it. Don't oppose it. If McDonald's brought out a vegan burger, don't oppose it just because you don't want to eat the other animals. Good for cows. Let's look at it from the animal's perspective. If McDonald's put a vegan option on every single McDonald's on Earth and everyone had that option, people are going to walk into McDonald's and see it and go, wow, I've seen that video of those cows being slaughtered the other day. I've got a vegan option that's better than, you know, mated cow bodies. You know, so I think what happens is people hear like these big corporate names and they're like, they have an emotional reaction and they're like, I hate McDonald's. Don't get me wrong, McDonald's is bloody evil. You think I think it's a good corporation with the best in mind for the humans, for humans animals on the Earth? Of course I know that's not true. But if they put on a vegan option, we need to get behind it. We need to get behind it because it helps cows in the end of it, it helps animals. This is how we can change corporate. If everyone bought the vegan burger, they put on another one, then they can change the whole menu. Imagine if McDonald's vegan. They decided that using soy puddies was better financially for them. That's all they care about. They only care about money. They don't care about nothing else. If they figure out soy puddies, they actually taste better. They sell really well and they financially make sense. You know what I mean? They turn the whole restaurants vegan. Imagine that. If we don't buy the vegan burger, guess what they do? They take it off the menu. They take it off the menu. And then there's no option at McDonald's and people just think veganism is a bit harder. It makes veganism a little bit harder. We want this to be as easy as possible for your average person. You know, your average family, your average person having a party, getting drunk with their mates on the weekend, they go into McDonald's, their mates are getting burgers and there's a vegan burger for them. We need these options to exist. I think we need to put our emotions aside and think about what's best for animals and use our logic. Okay. Oh my God, dude. Seating the third. On behalf of my fellow vegan brothers and sisters, we appreciate the hell out of you, Joe. Thank you, dude. You're just a legend. Thank you, mate. He just gave me a really amazing donation. Thanks, man. Thank you, dude. I really appreciate that. Are you a guy or a girl? I can't really tell by your name or your profile picture, but just thank you so much. Wow. Thank you so much. I really appreciate the support everyone like. I've got such an amazing support network and it does, I'm not going to say it doesn't make things easy. It does make things, you know, sometimes it can be a little bit, get to you a little bit like, but you guys really make things like, it's like we've got a good supportive community here and, you know, there's a lot of adversity. There's a lot of negative comments and I get my fair share of them, don't you worry. But like, you guys are really show solidarity and it means a lot. So thank you, I love you for that. Vegan men have really low testosterone, probably why I built like a stick. Irish David. Tell Hensherba more that, mate. Tell Hensherba more that. And David, where's your picture? Can you send me a picture of what you look like, please? I want to see how big you're built. You know, I've seen plenty of meat and dairy eaters that I built like sticks. What do you think that's got anything to do with dairy intake or do you think that's got to do with the fact that they're in train? Because I'm not a good luck stick. Don't have lower testosterone. Show us the research that says vegans have lower testosterone. It's actually the opposite. Henshi, tell him. What happened to your dog? Oh, no, that was our Laura's dog, Waldo. Waldo was 19 years old and we lived like, when Laura got with Waldo when he was about eight or nine. So she had him for like, and he was abused before Laura got him and she had a lot of work to try to get him to trust and she just showed him utmost love and looked after him with all her heart and she spent the last six months just caring for him 24 seven and spoon feeding him and then like she just evaluated whether or not keeping him alive was the most moral thing to do so she had to let him go and he was becoming disabled and he had dementia. Things that happened to 20 year old dog so he was a little Jack Cross and he was a rescue but it's really sad because he was like a member of the family and it was really upsetting to see him go and Laura's very distraught about it and trying to be as supportive as I can. My dog in Adelaide Don't deflect. What are you being an asshole for Adam? My dog in Adelaide. What do you mean by having my dog in Adelaide? Bye bye. Don't deflect. I thought you were talking about the dog Waldo that passed away. My dog's in Adelaide and that's my brother and my other dog Snooki is my mum's she's with my mum so what are you talking about? People are just f**king f**ked in their head. Sorry about that guys I don't usually swear but he said you abandoned a dog in Adelaide whatever you don't know nothing about me mate Nugget was my dad's my dad passed away I had care of Nugget for a year my brother took Nugget on because Nugget was originally my brother's I don't have to tell you my personal business anyway Nugget's with my my brother and Snooki's with my mum anyway um yeah they are they're just like where's your dog you're abandoning or you want to get a conspiracy theory happening mate like the Euland Dogfest so Jane Ellison has done on the 50DKK I don't know what that is the Euland Dogfest is soon what do you think about that and you think we can never stop it go vegan peace Jane the Euland Dogfest is absolutely horrific and um most of the majority of the population oppose it already um if you walked about 15km down the road um so for me my primary focus is the the animals that aren't people support the torture of animals in in our countries um and vegan advocacy stops that so if you advocate veganism to people who support the abuse and torture of cow, chickens and pigs and fish you can stop that over here when it comes to the dog meat trade um where Euland and stuff a little bit trickier to stop because none of us support it we all oppose it already um they do it we could bring in laws we could try to affect laws in different countries um for the most part like when we have I could go for a walk right now take me probably 30 minutes I'll get to a slaughterhouse that slaughters more animals in a few months then dogs are slaughtered in Euland in a year you know what I mean like in one slaughterhouse here in England um so like and that's supported by the public that is supported people defend the torture and slaughter of pigs and chickens and fish you know defend it like like with all their heart but Euland they oppose with all their heart and it's in a completely different content on the other side of the world the slaughters don't even obviously it's horrible dog for torturing killed horrible I hate it if I seen anyone torture and kill a dog I would be mortified but I see people torture and kill chickens by the billion billion and no one blinks an eye people tease me mock me for defending them and I think that's huge hypocrisy I would love to go to Euland and defend those dogs like for sure and I will say something about that but the hypocrisy inherent in society is absolutely laughable and it's so so blatantly insane to oppose the exact same thing just based on species that you support every time you have a sandwich it's just so insane okay so hold on, thank you I'm a big fan I was told not to invoke political opinions in regards to my veganism at my high school I'm very politically charged and as curious as to how I should go about it thanks man well that's fine because camera is a political isn't to do with politics it's to do with ethics you know what I mean like is it really a political position to be against child abuse is it really a political position to oppose animal abuse you know I mean I guess you could you could start to push it into the political argument changing laws and stuff like that but for the most part veganism is a philosophy on ethics it's about being consistent with your moral position like with your actions and your morals you know like I'll just say like people conflate veganism with politics it doesn't matter where you sit in a political spectrum you can still be a vegan unless you're I guess there's extremes to that but yeah I'd say like veganism is an ethical position nothing to do with politics um do you recommend vegan ice cream but not survey? I don't know what you're talking about I'm sorry I don't understand that facts and logic destroy kindness and nonsense every time Lewis you're amazing you're on every single you're in the comment section of every single vegan video Joey wait so you're a positive guy but a pump action shotgun was found in your vehicle doesn't make sense it wasn't found in my vehicle get your facts straight dude you know and that was seven years ago and I'm the one who told everyone about that and you're acting like no one knows I was in gangs actually I'm a positive guy yeah of course I am I was involved with gangs for a period of my life take my life around now I help animals and I haven't assaulted anyone for six years so what are you trying to say do you think you found some dirt on me that no one knows yeah I had to carry a gun to defend myself you come in my world back then for five minutes and you told me what you would have done come in my world back then for two minutes of your life you probably buckle in the corner I did what I had to do to defend myself I was not in the right place mentally and now I am and now I try to influence change I live and adhere to a nonviolent lifestyle now towards animals and towards humans so just like what you're saying is just pathetic you're trying to like what are you doing it doesn't affect me whatsoever for innocent animals to be stabbed in the throat and gas chambered we've done nothing wrong to you animals have done nothing wrong to you and you bully them and stab them in the throat so you can eat their body parts to feed your sick addiction to flesh I had a gun to protect me from violent criminals alright so what so what I worked out abusing animals and human beings is wrong is morally wrong and I changed my life around and now I adhere to that consistently but you're too pathetic to analyse your own hypocrisy and you continue to fund the abuse of innocent animals who have done nothing wrong to you and then use an argument like oh joey you're positive because you had a shotgun he gives you shit I was in gangs mate I already told you that like anyways don't worry guys I'm just day one I got on youtube told everyone I'm two years sober I'm so glad to be out of the place I was in 400 videos ago I started telling everyone about my business because it was part of my personal growth it was part of my personal growth to be accountable for my past and to move past it you know what I mean so it's funny how the media even think they got dirt on me when I was the one to originally tell everyone you know I told everyone about my past of violence, my past of drugs my past of you know gangs and how I transform my life it's inherent in my speeches and in my story so yeah act like you found some dirt on me and it's hilarious absolutely hilarious and pathetic so yeah piss off mate so I love you Joey I love you too so I'm talking so loud but I'm right next to the highway here just walking to the gym calling us as I adore you thank you sweetheart that's what he's sweet of you people need to leave joey's past alone he's a great man you know what no let's talk about it let's talk about it because it's not an argument it's the philosophy of veganism people use my past as an argument against the philosophy of opposing animal abuse which is ridiculous people use my past as an excuse to go and torture animals who've done nothing wrong to them where is the logic there dude so you're saying because I did something bad before you can do something bad now huh where's the honour and that absolutely no honour and that you know what there's honour in admitting you were wrong admitting you've done some things bad in the past you know being honest with yourself and changing that's where there's honour that's where the honour is there's no honour sitting there in your little computer at home going oh give me a hand he thinks he's all positive it's just pathetic dude have some courage to speak up for what's right to stand up strong you know and defend the vulnerable and innocent and you know it's one second in a room with me I bet you I would make you see different one second looking into my eyes I bet you I would make you see different you know I have the courage to go my own way and to speak up you have no honour the vegans out there vegans out there who realised what they were doing in their life was causing unnecessary harm and were honest with themselves put their ego to bed and decided to change their lifestyle based on that are the most honourable courageous human beings on earth the most honourable courageous human beings on earth and they're the ones who will change the world they're the ones who will change the world not the pathetic little trolls who sit on their computer drop in comments from behind a screen it's the activists of the world who change society the activists of the world not the pathetic trolls who just you're going to do nothing to change the world I want you to wake up and wake up and stand for something that matters you know what I mean stand for something that matters what have you done in your life what have you done in your life to make a difference on earth that's what I want to know what are you doing every single day to create some form of positive change on earth ask yourself that every time you wake up in the morning I'm compelled every single day to create change what are you compelled to do come into my live stream with a vegan and start poking shit at his past with his past character what does that do to create change does nothing makes you look like pathetic Eric let's try to get him to respond to donation message super chat what do I think of you dude don't ask me silly questions I don't even know you brother oh my god what do I think of you you're probably a nice guy I don't know what do I think of you you're probably a really nice guy genuine hearted if you're a vegan then you've worked something out that's really positive yeah if I met you I probably think you're a really nice guy how do you do how do I deal with stupid vegan relatives ah sorry sorry I read that completely wrong how do I deal with ignorant non-vegan relatives with their stupid anti-vegan comments how do I deal with relatives when they're all going to eat dead animals and animal products in front of me Talisha let's get into this with you because this is a very common thing and we might as well address it now so when it comes to friends and family there's a psychological thing going on here and I haven't really pinpointed what that is I'm not saying that's the case in all families but for the most part what I've noticed is family are less likely to take this message on from you because they've known you your whole life you know like not all families are like this, not all family members are like this but some of them are it's usually fathers it's usually the guys I'm going to say that it's not even sex it's just objectively true usually the dads or the you know the male family members that are more you know just I don't know they've got something to prove they're less likely to show compassion they've just never been taught compassion properly mums are usually more supported but sometimes mums can be hard as well but look there's no reason for you to sit at the table when your family are eating animals that are tortured and killed if you don't feel comfortable with that why would you put yourself through that there's no reason to do that I understand that your family you have to spend time with them but you don't have to spend time around the corpses of animals there's like a thousand other things you can do you don't have to sit around food with them if it stresses you that much also if your family have given you that much backlash with this topic that means it's time for you to pull back with it for you to pull back with it plant some seeds let someone else tell them via a video like a James Aspe speech, Gary Opsky speech, Erflinged speech someone who has a really good speech bite starts vegan speech freely the banana girls channel someone else can tell you but what is it Darius scary video usually if it comes from someone else's mouth other than the family member they're more likely to listen but if your family are giving you lots of pushback the time has come for you to pull back and what I want you to do is to find an outlet that is not your family so find an outlet to advocate this message that is not your family so social media spread the message you can influence so many people you can influence thousands of people to change your family are a few people on earth I know there's an emotional attachment to them you really want them to change but you could be spending all of that energy on changing people who want to hear this who would be grateful for you to tell them about the dairy industry and the inherent cruelty what red meat is doing to people's colons and what it does to the animals in slaughterhouses you know a lot of people would read or whether that be starting a massive social media page where you just boom boom boom just dropping truth bombs all day and maybe your family might see that maybe you can use social media to communicate this message but my advice to you would be pull back drop seeds drop little seeds with them you got to know your boundary and with me and my family my family didn't want to hear this they wouldn't change straight away so I just got on social media and I started letting go that fire that I had in my chest wanting to change people wanting to inspire I let that go on YouTube I let that go right now aren't I see any of my family here see any of my non-vegan family here no but a lot of my non-vegan family watch my videos they watch my videos and they can you guys see me sorry just disconnected for some reason but look you're using your precious energy on wasted on ears it's like falling on deaf ears it's falling on deaf ears when you can use that energy on people who want to hear this message and you find them people via anonymous for the voiceless you know what I mean go out to anonymous for the voiceless stand around the cube people stop because they want to talk about it they want to know what's going on and get into it people who are trying to put down Joey down you have the power to do it over the computer but could you do it face to face they don't hardly have any power over me someone said go kill myself that's really like this is where you start getting into like 12 year olds telling you to go kill yourself like you know I at one stage of my life I was thinking about it hey one stage of my life I was thinking about that and I actually put a gun in my mouth because it was all falling apart but now I would never think of that life is beautiful and precious gratitude for life when you have been through what I've been through you start to see life with more gratitude and I would never jump on the internet like a little hero and say go kill yourself because probably like you're probably 9 years old to start with but I realise how precious life is and you know that sort of disregard for life is why the world is so messed up um but yeah just a lot of people that I don't see honour in them I don't see any honour I don't see any like good qualities and value in a lot of people and it's usually like it might be 10 year old mentalities on the internet feeling courageous to say something but like where's your honour like where is the where's the heart in you where's the I don't know like where's something to like you're gonna look back and go yeah like I'm proud of myself for the things I said on the internet you know like there's some things I regret saying on the internet but for the most part I'm like I'm proud of what I'm stand for proud of what I stand for um are you do you wake up every single day and go I'm proud of what I stand for I can stand for this on national TV I can defend this because I'm very proud of what I my moral position when it comes to animal abuse and you know just looking in the mirror and going I'm gonna go troll someone and tell them to kill themselves because you know whatever like we love you Joey you're an asset to the movement and your dedication to the animals is inspiring people like you doing what you do animal liberation will be thank you so much so the video of my past was intense thank you it was intense to make and I was just really I've got multiple videos about my past I'm online but that was my six years sober six years sober and I was really um nostalgic and I don't know nostalgic moment for me and really emotional getting close to the gym this has been an hour live stream hope you've enjoyed it hi I'm an ex vegan what can I do wrong Margie an ex vegan a vegan vegan is a moral principle so like it's an ethical position against the exploitation and harm of animals what you did wrong is you didn't focus on the victims to start with and I don't I don't know what you did wrong in your dietary choices and lifestyle choices because I haven't analyzed your day to day activities I can guarantee you've done something wrong in your you didn't do it right to be an ex vegan and you didn't focus on the victims I hate it when people say to me that their veganism is a phase that veganism is a phase that's just like saying anti child abuse is a phase no you're either against child abuse or you're not or you never work or like you're either against unjustified animal cruelty or you're not like which one is it? do you pay for animal abuse or you don't? Joey I'm a vegan I fish in honey etc but I respect your videos and your journey so much congrats on being Saber and finding joy from rice and motivation thanks quite people I appreciate you saying that I wonder why I just I'd also appreciate it if you looked into the message a little more as well like especially you know fish and honey um you know fish get a really bad rap they really get a bag they're one of the most abused animals on earth in terms of numbers they just get ripped out pulled out the ocean with massive trawling nets which pull out indiscriminately like multiple different species on top of the targeted species and drop them onto boats and they suffocate and die they might get stabbed in the head or they get asked to CO2 or ice bath fish cut up alive and eaten alive and they just treated like objects and um you know I feel like fish is a forgotten species on earth and it's a real shame like um and honey is just inherently cruel and exploitative uh they cut the wings off of queen bee they kill the males to inseminate the uh and they squeeze them to get the semen out of them and crush them inseminate the queen bee they enslave the queen bee in these hives it's just it's just really honey is like a sweetener we have a hundred alternatives for like we have multiple different types of sugar it's just it's just so I know I just feel like it's really selfish of humans to want to take that from bees as well where we have we have so many different plant sugars like agave and maple syrup and golden syrup and um fruit sugars and date syrup and like so many derivatives of cane sugar that you couldn't count them like and we still want the honey it's just um it's just crazy it's it's really it's really unethical and selfish I told my friend eggs are unhealthy and she just said well everything in moderation how do you respond to that um the fact is if you've got a a baseline cholesterol like say a vegans a vegans baseline cholesterol and you add a few eggs to that diet and you spike to cholesterol so eggs in moderation I would argue kills people you can um check up go to nutritionfacts.org it's a really great resource for studies and just check just type in eggs are healthy our eggs healthy and you can get some really good um information I was strictly plant based for a few years and the other day I tried out strictly plant based I don't know what that means I know big briskets from the body of a uh murdered animal but anyways guys it's been a really good live stream I'm nearly at the gym now and hehehehe Iris David is a cholesterol denier which type of cholesterol the one that we produce in our own bodies isn't obviously bad but the dietary cholesterol is bad is bad builds up in your arteries and kills people enjoy your day Joey I burned my hand and now I can't tofu egg wrap earlier said vegan body because you said vegans can't get protein yep PEDs doubles the requirement yeah so if you take steroids this is a great point to make uh I just want to say this point because it's hilarious when anti vegans look at vegan bodybuilders and go well they're big because they're on steroids right and then in the same breath they go you can't get enough protein from a vegan diet okay okay so which one is it vegan bodybuilders are big because they're on steroids or you can't get enough protein from a vegan diet which one because your requirement for protein basically doubles when you're on testosterone and steroids because you need to produce that much more muscle so you need to double the protein requirement because you're growing so much more you think you're just going to grow muscle with steroids alone you need building blocks steroids stimulate the muscle but you need the building blocks so you need the protein and if you're saying like vegan diets are deficient in protein you can't get big on a vegan diet well what are you talking about dude you're just especially reinforcing the fact that vegan diets have a sufficient amount of protein even more than sufficient more than sufficient so yeah which one is it which one is it guys much love to you veganism joey you're beautiful okay so it says hi joey you are are you spiritual because you have a beautiful soul finally found your pathway thank you I guess I guess I do I don't know what you mean by spiritual I guess I have I have conscious awareness because of my struggles I've been through in my past and I had like a series in my life enlightenment and epiphanies which kind of led me to find alignment in my heart and I guess you could say that now I attract the life that is in alignment with my values and I guess you could say that spiritual depends on your definition of spiritual we are much love to all you guys just rocked up to the gym that's your workout and I'll speak to you soon I think I'll do more of these youtube live streams peace Brittany thanks William