 Welcom o Toffy TV. Mi yn pedigon o ddysgwsion, y cwbl o farticleis that have been in the athletic over the last couple of days very interesting both with strong Everton references. At the moment with the athletic you can get a free 30 day trial plus 50% off your yearly subscription. Some great articles on there. Great writers, evident own, designated writers of Greg O'Keeffe and Paddy Boyland, as well as lots of other stuff really good No clickbaits, no pop-up ads, none of that stuff, just journalism. If you're interested, click the link in the description below and sign up. It's excellent. And I think one of these articles we want to talk about really illustrates how good the stories are. You know, Greg's gone over to Jeremy, spoke to Davie Classen with a really good interview. In depth, not, you know, a paragraph built around a lot of nonsense and a massive headline emblazoned all over it, which is normally the stuff you see at the moment, lots of stuff in it. But we'll make sure we start with that because literally you're just out of there. So Greg did go over to Jeremy, went over to Bremen and spoke to Aad Davie, or used to be Aad Davie. I mean, Greg put, you know, he was surprisingly forthright. Obviously Greg didn't realise he was dutch because dutch are very forthright, very honest aren't he, don't care what they say. But it was now a good piece by Greg, but Davie Classen, I mean, one of those players don't know about you. I always look out for him. I always look to see if he's done with Bremen. I always look to see if he's scored. I think he conducted himself with a bit of class when he was here. He's not moamed about what happened. When he was three to Paulie, this was the Ajax captain who we bought, put him in for six weeks and then basically ruined his career for a year. I mean, what did you make of the article because he explains, you know, what happened that we come to sign for us? What was said? Well, obviously the other thing we're going to talk about is an article by Rob Tanner, is it? Steve Wolfson, there's a little bit of evidence in that, but obviously they're both linked together because it's the same period. But it just shows that this time in Everton's history with the new director of football and with Ronald Cooman, there just wasn't any joined up writing, you know, in thinking. And I think Classen sort of mentions that in this. He was brought in by Cooman, essentially, and then Everton went out and bought Wayne Rooney and went out and bought Guilfee Sigurdson. And it just shows you that he was Cooman signing, but maybe the other, Wayne Rooney was maybe someone else's signing, and then maybe Guilfee was someone else's, or Steve Welchers. So it shows that things have changed. He mentions in the article as well, he thinks now brands and silver have a lot more of a better relationship, which means that they don't make those kind of mistakes. It shows that the lad, I feel sorry for the lad. The lad just wanted to play. He'd come in, he thought he had a defined role. He knew what he wanted to do, box the box midfielder, goal scorer, which he's gone back to. And that was taken away from him by just having too many players. He actually said in the article that he thought it actually started okay. Guilfee was playing on the left, Wayne was playing up front and he was playing in midfield. And it was just the fact that he started to lose games. And Cooman lost his job. And then Dave Runsworth essentially just didn't want him. And then Aladdeis just basically said, I don't want you. And that was it. And just as he was trying to get into his everything career. So he doesn't actually blame the fact that he was 3 number 10s of such date. Even though I always thought he was number 8 rather than number 10. He just blames the poor running, just a collection of different things. And I think more what he's saying is he was more massively surprised after Cooman went. What happened? Yeah, I mean listen Cooman brought him in. I remember watching him in the Europa League final against United. Cos we'd been linked with him. He was one of a couple. And nearly he just looked off the pace in that and I was thinking can he do it. But then it was the end of a season and he'd had a brilliant season. So 20 goals that season, didn't he? So you could understand why Cooman liked them. Goal scorer in midfield. We hadn't had enough goals apart from Rom the year before. And obviously we knew we were losing Rom. So he was trying to put goals in. You could see what he was thinking was. He was trying to put goals in to the team that he was losing kind of thing. But I still think he handled it wrong Cooman. Because Trond Davies had finished the season really strongly. And a couple of others he brought in. And Rom went which was a massive thing. And obviously Ross Barclay had fell out with him at this time and was injured anyway. So he wasn't available. And instead of bedding them in slowly through them in and then when it started to go wrong dragged them out again. And classroom was one of them I mean. We saw little flashes of it you know. Put a great ball through to Calvert Llewman in Rooson Berrach. And we won the game. Dom finished it. You know look decent. You know the first game of the season against Stokey. Look good. Good little moments. You know great done to the new year post. We still have room to go far post. And a couple of nice little touches here and there. But he just looked. I just don't think we were set up the right way. I think if you would have had. See this is the thing. Cooman wanted Olivier Giroud. So he went to the target man. So in that case Rooney wouldn't have been up front. So where would Clashen have played. So would Clashen have been an eighth alongside Garnir. In midfield and then. But he'd also bought Snidlin. So none of it. You write none of it actually made any sense you had. You know especially if the three of them are buying it. If you're getting Davey Clashen and he got it early didn't he bought him in June with Pickford. Like the same day they would reveal. So you've got him and you've gone like he's going to be the person from midfield. He's going to break and get goals. And then you can understand why Everton brought Rooney back. Because he had played a couple of positions ex Everton. Still a big name. So Bill wanted that and he's like look we can get this and it's a no brainer. We've lost Rom. Rooney will get goals. Fine. The problem. And the issue man in some respects is still an issue. It was Guilfee Sigurdddon which didn't make any sense at all. 45 million English pounds. For it was just to me at the time I was scratching my head going. He's not 21. He's not quick. He's not you know he's a very technically gifted player Guilfee. And still a good player don't get me wrong but. I think we all got caught up with the hype of buying a player. And almost that thing of like I think we do this quite a lot as Everton. He's like once someone introduced the idea or something. And someone says you can't have it. We're like well we want it. And it's like it doesn't matter what it is. It's like no we want it. So every time Swansea knocked his back it wasn't like oh lads I think we should leave it. It's like no no we want it. We're going to have them. It doesn't matter how much we are. Started at 25 and ended up 45. And maybe eventually just walked away. Because we were bidding against ourselves. Well Leicester were liquid and Leicester said he wouldn't go above 30. No. So why did we go 15 million above 30? But it is that thing of being like we want them. We want them at all costs. And I think you know I'm not blaming Guilfee Sigurdson. Because it's not his fault. But I'm blaming just the setup. Like you said before Tom Davis was there. Now there couldn't be in the case of classes coming in. We want them to be five years. First year we'll ease them in. And we've got these other players who are primarily ready. But he didn't ease them in. He played them. And then put them out. Whereas if it were properly it would have been like Europa League. Is a place for the young players. Especially once you're in the group stages. Young players. Squad players. Group boss and dad add on paper really. We managed to make it really. Leone were a decent team. And Atalanta. But if we'd won our own games. And took points here. If you'd structured it properly and gone right. We might get beat at Atalanta. But we might get beat at Leone. But if we beat them at home. And we beat them at home and away. We'll go through in this group. And we didn't do that. We didn't manage the group very well. We didn't manage the players very well. We did the same with like Sandsrow. And that whole thing was a mess. But it shows. And I think it shows in Steve Walsh's article. The article with Steve Walsh as well. But he doesn't really talk about Everton. He talks about his time at Leicester. Cos it's a Leicester article more than Leicester. But he says at the end you know what Everton. First of all he's from out of Rome. And he said, Warnsmenino not to buy him. He just said he's a bit of a baby. Which is an interesting thing. But then he reels off all these players that he wanted to sign. Or told Everton to sign. And Everton were like no. But I don't understand why Everton didn't sign them. Because of all the players that we've already bought. And it just shows you that. Again though. That joined up thinking of who's in charge here. Who's saying. And I think that's the difference now is that. Brands are saying we have a structure. And he will talk to the manager. But it's not like. I want this play. You want that play. And you want that play. So guess what we buy all three. No. We're buying this. We're buying a centre forward. And. We need to get our heads together on which centre forward. Right. Walk the economy. We own a centre back. But which one? Well. This, this, this one. Let's all agree. And that does seem then like. No one had overall control. And it just. So. What matters whilst you're saying what I offered in this play. But then if you offered them that play. Why did me go and get that player? Why was it taking out your hand? I don't. No that's what I'm saying. I don't believe him. All right. Well it doesn't matter if you don't believe him. It's a case of. What I mean is. Because it's for that reason. What you're saying. The money. I don't believe him. If it was like. I offered this in this play. And I didn't want to spend the money. And we didn't spend the money. We spent £145 million. No I know. No I know that. But we know that. Like Giroud. Was there and. And we didn't get him. So that. No. So we didn't want that. We didn't want anyone else. And. It just. The whole thing. And class into victim of this. The whole thing. Just smacks of just complete. An utter. Chaos. Chaos. And failure at the top. And that top. That now. Is had to be soaked into the 13 now. And we're still paying the consequences. And we will be for a couple of years. I imagine. Because it. I don't know. Who's fault is why I can't point fingers. But it strikes me is that. If you're going to bring a director of football in. You let the director of football. Direct. You. You. You don't. Chime in from above. And. Anyone below. Which. Cuman would have been. Should. Work together. And maybe that was the problem is that. They didn't. Cuman was here first. Now I know. But the first. But Welsh was supposed to be coming. It was. It was all to do with. It was supposed to be only Cuman because we couldn't get Monty. You've got to look at that. The point being is though. A director of football was always coming. Now I know. But if you if you actually go back to it. It's no wonder it was chaos. Right. Mishiri gets the club. Takes the club over in March. Right. Decides. Almost instantaneously. That. Martin has just gone. We've seen after we beat Chelsea 2-0. And Bill's. Telling you what a great manager Martin has is. Mishiri wouldn't make eye contact looking at the floor. Cos he was standing there thinking he's gone. We know after. After the Anfield Abbey. And the semi-final Mishiri effectively sacked Martin. On that Sunday after the semi. He was done. And he was told he was done basically. He tried to get Monty. He wanted brands. And brands said no. He then wanted Monty. And Monty wanted to come. But severe duct of the heels in and wouldn't let him go. You know when it looked like twice we'd got him. They'd come back with more money. So eventually stayed where he was. Cumin came in. But they had second thoughts about Cumin. Before he didn't want to go back. And then we get to the stage where we go to Leicester. And go yeah actually he won the league. With nothing we'll have him. He must be good. Because he couldn't get him. And he couldn't get him. So we'll have him. So straight away that's an issue. When you're getting your third choice. And you've got a manager who is very. You know. You've got a big ego. Old school as well. And old school. He's got an ego. On all that. You bring this director of football in and go. You're going to be managing him. You've never done it before by the way. You're a scout. You're going to sort that thing out. So that's a mess. We don't get the players. Now for all we know. That could have been that face. Some of you could have gone. There's that kind of thing in the same. And whatever. Just find it difficult that of Everton. Although. We know those players might have been mentioned before. And Everton hadn't sucked them. But then as that summer with the class and thing. Was utterly bizarre. And. That's that's what we're saying. Aren't we? What I'm talking about with Walsh is one side of his argument. Doesn't balance against the other. But I don't find. I don't honestly don't find it any of it hard to believe. Because I might find his. Recollection of it hard to believe. But I don't find it hard to believe. Do you know what I mean? No, but you know what I mean when I say. Both sides don't balance. One side saying. I offered them this and it's for 20 million. And on the other side we're spending a hundred and forty five. No, but the point being is though. The whole point being is though. This is what I'm saying is. Hang on. Haaland. No, I know. I know the Haaland of the degree that David leads. What I'm saying is though. The point is. Is that. It smacks to a. A. Disorganised. Settle. Yeah. Cos what it's saying. Cos you come in in the summer. Well you don't come in the summer actually. You get March, April time. Like. Like brands told us this year. Like he said. And he knew who we wanted. Or his target to it. Then that got a little bit mixed up. Because he was like. I know my target to it. But it was like. Oh, we know who we're getting. Which it wasn't. That wasn't true. Where is everything just sort of. Come in in the summer. Right. We want him. Him and him. Without going. What do we actually need? And how much is it going to cost us? And who else do we need? Cos I remember. I mean. Let's be honest. We come in into that year. And we were all. Why have we got a left back? Why have we not brought in a left back? You know. And that's. You know. Robin was there at the time. He could have been taken. But that's what you do. Don't you? You sit down. If we knew. Sat down now. I'm right. It's November. But what are we looking for in the summer? We'd sit down. We'd make a list of the positions. And we'd go. What do we need first? And we'd go. We needed the right back situation source. And so do we get to Sydney? Well yeah. At the moment you'd probably say. Well yeah. We go for them. Things might change. But we know we need a right back. And we'd go through the team. And we'd go through a list. Of priorities. And we'd have money on one side. And we'd go. And like if we were in the game. We'd have all the list of the targets. And it would be like fantasy football in a way. It'd be like. Well he'll catch you this much. But then we'll have to tick him off the list. Because he's X mountain. We went into that. And we just went. We went this, this, this and this and this. And then it was like. Yeah. But you can have this as well if you want. I was like. Okay. Well we'll take that. But if you take that. You can't have those of the two. But maybe someone hasn't brought those of the two to the pitch. Do you know what I mean? Same with the Jiru thing. But we went for Robertson. Well we inquired about Robertson in January. And he wanted to come. And then for whatever reason. The money wasn't forthcoming. We didn't. But that's what I'm saying. It's like the centre forward thing. You'd. In your, in our heads. We go. We know we're selling the car. Who this year. So let's take all that money. And try and get another centre forward. Whether it be a Bamiango. Someone go right. So one for 80. Let's go and buy one for 60. Let's throw all that money. And then what's that leave it. Okay. Well that leaves us this. All right. Then we'll go and buy. Well do we need Gilfysigleson? No. Do we need Wainryne? No. Can we get David Cassin? 20. Oh that's all right. Do we need the goalie? Yeah. Pickford. That's decent. Keane. Okay. 25. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. a wnewch yn y cyntaf o'r gwlu Gwleolol Iol yn teimlo ar y cyflwyniadau yn ymgyrch yn rhywbeth, wrth gwrs, ond ar y cyflwyniadau yn y cyfrannwch wedi'u lefyn. Dyn nhw'n gwrs, mae oeddech chi â dŵr yn ddechreu. Ond yr oedd y gallu sig oedd y cyfrannwch yn gyfan ganon gweithinol? Ond yna y byddai eithaf y byddaiiem eich cyfrannwch yn gweithlo'r cyfrannwch yn yr yw 60, mae y taeth yn gweithio ar y games, ac mae'n wneud brymwysad i ymgyrch a hynny, ..that they would know how to do things. So it just strikes me as utter chaos. I think the thing you can say from her is, It's, we literally went brwsters millions on the transfer market and it was... We did. But we did as fans, though. Listen, your... You were, because for so long, We couldn't spend anything. So we were just made up, collecting things and we were lowered in it. Because for so many years, we were the kids that were at the window, on the street shop, without being able to buy. This year we were given a check and go in and do what you... We were just going, ah, we'll have that, we'll have that, we're all thinking. And when you're sitting here now you go, why football men, why didn't you actually sit there and go, who's our goalie? Who's our right back? See, what else has mad? You bought a classic, Rhywuny, Sigarton, am ystod y Bros Barkley? Nes? Am Bros Barkley, OK, nearly went to see how this is going to fell through. Roes barclu go framework hawn a gan. Yw hwnnw. Ac weith eich bod hwn yn srydu here? Hwnnw hwnna go? Yn hynny weith eich bod hefyd y ffordd yn bethens? Yr hoffodd ychydig yn ddim yn roes barclu? So, mae'n ddigon ni'n cael llyffydd. Felly mae'n gorfod yn flynedd i'n gael. Mae'n grofod hynna'n gael fel gael? Fysg nhw'n gweithio lle'i ddau o'r adnanc sy'n rhai annwys ma' ymweld yfyrdd a'n feddwl. Ond mae'n ddod i'n gael.-"He said the interest of people who are stronger and quicker than the Australian strain." That takes a year, that takes a year. When you're in a struggle and see him, and you put in it, that again is mismanagement. And you know he said the manager, onwards said I don't want you and I can understand why at the time. Then Alan Dysg came in. He didn't want him, and but then when he got to January was like the move to Napoli. He was looking at something. He said he didn't want to go. He said he didn't want to go and I wanted to wait till the summer a dwi ddim gael os dim dwi'n meddwl i dweud yn sgrifteithio, a lழwydau sydd yn ymwneud dros quen amser, dwi'n meddwl i'u gwneud, a o nad yw ymddirprfod wedi'i gweithio o'i wneud am yr un fan, ac mae'n bwysig o gwneud? Byddwn iron, o'r cyfrifyddy, o fudio rwy'n meddwl o wneud, a o noche, mae'n brifiau o'ch rwyaf, ond mae'n ei dweud hynny. Mae'n wneud. Gwaith o'ch hrwynt. mae'r hollaf a'r hollaf a hyn yn wych chi. Diolch am erbyn nhw, dwi dwi wedi gynnal i gydau fewysau i Saman. Fodd eu bod ni ddechrau, dwi wedi gynnal i gynnal i gynnwys. A wedyn fydd o'n hytrifydd eu ddim yn ei bod yn rhan i'n gweithi. Mae'n i chi wneud ei ddim yn ei fod yn ei fod yn i'r ni, a'n ddim yn ei ddim yn ei ddim yn ei gwyll急f. Dwi ddim yn ei ddim yn ei ddim, dwi'n meddwl i'n gweld o'n Ie. Mae'n gweld arddangos hwn o blaen, mae eisiau ma'n산. Efallai ham i chi. Rwy'n i chi dda! Mae genrydd o'r clynyddol yn ddyddiadau. Mae'r clynyddol yn gwneud o'r blynyd arall o silver teimlo. Rydym ni'n byw, mae'n gwneud â'r bod yn ffans i. Mae'n gwybod i'r hyn o beth o gwahanol. Mae'n hefyd i chi dda. Mae'n gweithio'r silver, oedd yn rhoi. Nawr, mae'n gwneud hynn. Nefwll sydd o'r llwyth didd ni? Treat me like a professional, treat me like a human being. Tell me what you want, if you want me to leave, I'll leave. But don't dick me around. Don't keep me on the end of a sting going. Oh, this might happen. No one wants that. Nobody wants that. If you don't think I'm good enough, no problem with that, because it's just an opinion. And someone else will. Don't mess me around on that, I think. If you like him or you don't like him, if you say no to him early on and go on listening. I don't think you're good enough for what we need. We rape other players higher, go and get yourself a club and we'll help you. And that's all you can do. It's being a man as well. Of course it is. When we played against him in the pre-season, he said he was happy to see everyone. He always looks out for that. He was here for a year. That's made up anyway. That's important. Well, that suggests that he was treated alright by the players, doesn't he? And the fans did treat him really well. Fairness, the fans did treat him really well. They didn't, you know, no-one booed them. And I remember he'd come on against Brighton, I think. We'd be Brighton soon, you know. And he'd come on for about the last five or ten minutes and done alright, you know. I'll add ice through him on, as they are token gesture, because the crowd wanted them and I remember them warming up and everyone was clapping and so. Because he just got his head down and worked out. And he said, good footballer. Now, is he, would he have ever been good enough to play in a top six evidence set, you know, at an evidence team post? I don't know, because we don't know. But that's not the point. That's not the point of the... That's why we've put both of these articles together. It's not the point. The point is, it just suggests that for that one summer, or the two summers, that the whole thing was utter chaos. And I just... Like I've felt it that into the January that he's talking about when he nearly went to Napoli, just as we finished, you know, would you say, well-gotten token was chaos? Because I know that the club was having reservations about token. We signed them. We've got this bet. And then a week later, I don't even know if we can play in this league. And you're like, I'm going to say it. And it just showed when you think back, you go, I remember me and you going. What's he saying? Because it's a bit cold. He's coming to Germany where it's snow. And then he was saying I don't know whether he'll ever be there. To be fair to Sam, when he said that. That's what I'm saying. He might have proved himself. That just introduces more chaos, doesn't it? Lachwm's going to Darwin and they're up in Leipzig. It's like, what the hell is... One minute's not going alone. The next minute is going on alone. It's just... Who's running this club? Who is running this all this stuff? And the problem with that is that leaves holes where other people go, you're not doing it. I'm going to have to do it. Whether that be Bill Cairnwright or Farhad Meshiri. And then you've got four people's opinions. I suppose whether people like it or they don't like it. Brands is there now. I'm not saying it's running smoothly because it takes time sometimes to put. I mean it's not without mistakes. No, I'm not saying he is. I've been trying to put a deadline when we didn't get a centre back and there's other issues of course there is. But he's trying to, but I think at the very least, he's trying to create a structure so that it does work and that doesn't happen overnight. And that shows you that. Just because you will give someone a title of director of football doesn't mean they are up to the job or other people respect them doing that job. Everything's got to fit together and maybe even as a club yet we're still not there. We might have people at the club who are still quite resistant because they know that somewhere else in the club there's someone who'll take their side over it. The thing about it, if Brands is going round saying, especially in the youth department, he's like, we need to cut that or we're going to have to get rid of all those scouts or that, then that's going to cause problems because if I'm there and you're my mate and someone walks in and goes, you're keeping your job but he's going and you're going to be like, what, that's my mate? Then you're going to go, I'm not working for him. And that's going to cause resentment. So until he gets like literally full control and everyone in it wants to work for him, then that's the difficult part. All that says, it appears to be running better than it was and that's all you can say isn't it? And this is further evidence like you just said of the chaos that was under Steve Walsh. There you go. And the caveat of that is it obviously wasn't all Steve Walsh's fault but while he was here with Cumin there was chaos. So check out the athletic, make sure you do, don't forget, it's a free 30 day trial and then if you want to keep it you get 50% off the subscription link. Link is in the description. Yeah, loads of your thoughts on that. Interesting piece. Davie Classen. Good lad. Good lad, didn't work out. Wish him all the best. I hope he's brilliant for Bremen. Fair play. There you go. Make sure you subscribe, give the video a thumbs up if you want more great videos like we've had this week the exclusive interview on Southwell. More to come as well over on Python. Get over there and become a Python or otherwise, see you soon.