 My biggest break came when I went to Flint, Michigan, of all places and I ran across in an alumni magazine, Andrea Kirby, who is an alumnus in Alabama. She at one time was an on-air talent for ABC and it started her own talent consultant business and she was consulting ESPN. So I sent Andrea my tape and she responded pretty quickly and she said, why haven't you sent your tape to ESPN? And I said, well, I think I have to be in a bigger place so they'll pay attention to me and I think I'm legit. And she said, you've got this screwed up beyond belief. And I said, what do you mean? And she said, if you go to Chicago or Atlanta or Boston, Los Angeles, you'll never go to ESPN. And I said, why not? She said, you won't take the pay cut. And she said, send your tape now. And I did and they hired me and I've always been grateful to Andrea for giving me some straight advice and really giving me some insight on how at the time how things worked there and what she thought was a good path for me to pursue some goals and opportunities. And I've never forgotten her for that. And a lot of it was because of the connection that I was able to make through the two of us being alums of Alabama.