 So, welcome to the second round, I hope everyone enjoyed it. So, we are having a panel discussion of Gutenberg, which has been, you know, making his base in the WordPress. So, let's first introduce him, who will be discussing about the same. So, first we have Jayman. So, Jayman is an independent UI UI designer and consultant and he is based out in Mumbai. Next, we have Mayum Keswani and Chirat Kugel. They both are project coordinators for multi-dots based in MBaba. Then we have Bhargav Mehda. He is an e-commerce developer at Trisha Web, again at MBaba. And Bhargav and Jayman also volunteer at Eddie Crattie for Gutenberg project. Also, we have Amit Singh, who is the business owner at WBOIs and also at Gutenberg. So, I would like them to come up to the stage so that we can have such a session. And how many of you have had the chance to look into it, experiment it. Okay. So, for those of you who have not heard about it, actually Gutenberg in what came here, 2017, Matt gave us a very little brief of what Gutenberg editor would be, you know. And each order, what are the possibilities and where the WordPress roadmap is going regarding the Gutenberg. So, currently, Gutenberg is actually scheduled to be free-stainless, where it says currently we are moving to the free fund, where we can make into WordPress 5.0 into the core as a roadmap platform. And it will be introduced, right? And right now, it is sitting in the content space. So, most of you would know that we have a theme, then we have content section, we have sidebars, we have photos, widgets, data boxes, many things. But right now, Gutenberg is about content editing. Giving users their space, you know, we do more with the content that they have created. So, this is the phase one. So, after the phase one completes, they have two more phases, where they will be continuously testing the Gutenberg editor, taking the feedback from the community. That's why, actually, we are having this panel here. And then, after the phase three, it will be fully just in the WordPress. So, let's start with the... So, the first question that any user would have, most of you have used it, others have not. So, the first thing is how difficult do you think it would be for users to transition into Gutenberg editor. How hard it would be to convert from this way editor that we have right now, tiny mcg, how many of you know what we have in the content editor, we have tiny mcg, what you see, what you get is the interface. So, we actually don't have to take the full advantage of it, because what you actually see is not what you actually get. But Gutenberg aims to solve that thing. So, how hard it would be to transition from this way editor, the experience that we have now in this length of time, to the Gutenberg editor. So, if anyone of you want to play this panel, and yeah, sure. Can you hear me? Yes. Yes. So, the question is how difficult it would be to transition into Gutenberg editor. Because they guys are used to with the classic editor, and they are used to with the existing plugins and theme. So, they gradually, it works. And once the Gutenberg editor comes in the markets, so then it works. So, it would be difficult for the end users, because they guys are used to with the existing themes and the plugins, and the classic editor. So, I tell you my experience of when I first used Gutenberg, for writing blog or content, when I am building a page, using a tool like Gutenberg meets it very, very easy. And I would love to use it for that scenario. But when I am writing a blog, if the default editor is Gutenberg, then I have a very tough time figuring it out. That's what happened with me. When I started the first time and I saw the footer work interface, and I started like, how do I write now a blog post? I was completely confused. So, if someone like me, who has been working with WordPress, and has seen visual composers, and glues them, gets confused when they see the first time that interface. I think almost everyone is going to face that kind of a learning curve. So, that's a challenge when we are looking at Gutenberg, when it becomes the default. For me, I would say that for any users, it will be an easy type once we have migrated completely to Gutenberg. The reason is there will be more training documents and more documents provided on the basis of Gutenberg, which a user or a blogger can read. And at the end of the day, they can easily learn and grasp the whole thing up and make something around it. So, it will be easy for any users to migrate after migrating to Gutenberg. But from migrating to what you see is what you get later to Gutenberg, it will be a tough task for them right now. I don't think, one thing is Gutenberg is easy to learn. So, as you said, that will be really helpful for all the users after migrating, apart from other things and others. This is a good thing. Actually, I shall complete the video in terms of learning because, just like I said, Gutenberg rollout, it is not that it's going to drop in at some point of time. The process is very gradual. There is a plugin that you can ask, also the date drops in, there is a classic editor plugin that you can upload, so that there is a, I feel there would be a step by step process, which people will adopt it, which will give them time to learn and understand. And people who are actually running a science school, nobody is going to say that, if Gutenberg comes forward, everybody is going to put a classic editor, have a staging environment, so on a staging environment, people will try to learn and train their teams. So, adoption is slow over difficulty. There is a difference between adopting, adoption, difficulty, and the speed of your adoption. I feel the adoption is slow, because Gutenberg has a lot of problems that currently actually does not, one of the biggest is mystery, because the issue of the current environment is getting slower. So, I think the adoption would be slower and if it is slower, but not, I have a question for you, just an introduction, but is it possible to do it in 7090, that means you are going to, please, I think you understand it. Okay, so, so why do you discuss that, because RL has also been used, there is a little bit of resistance, because it is not actually the mystery, but many people have my feelings for it. We actually don't have a mystery in the case. Or actually, we don't even use this thing. What you see from that? I have never used it, since I have started using it, but you call that a mystery later. So, that was the point. As I said, Rola will be there, there will be a transition period and something. Okay, we can go through the transition period. Many things have come that way, like the first metamorphosis, everyone is used to metamorphosis, and maybe use that. So, what is the key point, the user, the IT user, who is creating the content, who has nothing to do with team, who has nothing to do with, he just has to come to the wrong and write the content. What is the benefit for them, because of which they should start giving feedback into Gutenberg, start using or getting used to Gutenberg. Why do they do that? Why do they do that? The biggest feature that I find, they can basically customize the layout of a single post. That feature, it's a display. Like, currently they have to create a blog or they want to write a certain post, a certain way. That's not possible, without the help of a developer friend. That will change. So, that is one of the major advantages that I see once, Gutenberg has simply the play of utilizing each post being different from another page of the actual content. This is how I want to throw it, but because of the limitations that currently we have in the team, we are not able to throw it and we are living with it. We end up creating a lot of as a company, we've been creating a lot of tools. For these bloggers, if you want to do this way, do that way. That is something, the problem is completely gone. We have to divide the pages from all the pages, we can say in the blog. So, there, the blogger will get a lot of work space in the environment. This is the biggest feature. He will not be able to find work space in the entire page. Work space and environment will be the same. Basically, if a user or an user sees the picture, the same thing will be visible in the book and blog. So, how the site is designed in the backend, he will be able to see it in the front and so forth. They can implement new designs over there at the same time. Or, he will be able to do it with the same editor. No code change and other things. Actually, coming to your question, you can feedback, which means, there is an assumption that the development team has made that they would understand blogs. They would understand the way they can make what the way the site was might come in future. So, they would understand. It's a very common assumption because actually, if a page builder even builds it, they do it. But people are still not able to do it. Even today, the developer can tell us that we need to do this and that we need to do the development. So, right now, there is a very small assumption that if a blog comes in Gutenberg, then we have a grammar class. We can do everything. It's a shite now. And to figure out the assumption, why we take a round here, and he uses a free package. The person who is blogging, the person who is not a developer, who might not even design a sketch or a function, he is the one who does the feedback. So, he will come to know what can be done and what can be done. And the feedback is very simple. You go to the platform, you just look up and there is a, when you are doing things, it's really an issue out there that may come out. So, these are the steps that you are following. And the best part of that issue is that it is not only developing technical or design related issues. It is actually a place to do the thinking. Where people are actually putting force that if you do something like this, and then there are a lot of conversations about the positive things that could happen. People are sharing designs, also not only because actually it is not only because the developer will come, the designer will come, until the end, there is more value in it in the world of people. So, if you are a blogger, you should start reading, you should get a good job, you should be happy, as a designer, you should start reading, start doing those things. You have a good community and has US and for other countries, it is what you are doing. So, this feedback that was done, started using Kotlinberg and maybe we should focus on these three features and start doing the feedback and everything. But the end goal of Kotlinberg that has been the national and international presentation is that this is not the national Kotlinberg. The final goal of Kotlinberg might be to set all over Kotlinberg, including the content section, themes, sorry, sidebar part, initially what page builders per se are doing right now. So, then there was an app where it was set and page builders would be like, it would be easy, but my question is, what is the user who is using Kotlinberg right now? Don't you think it would be sophisticated if they change something using Kotlinberg editor or something. So, that would be a project coordinator. You might know that it is not like the vanilla space where you have to create a project and then you have to create a project. So, at least in Asian scenario where the editor is not that active and then there is the flash code or the priority of it, the browser is following the same set of protocols like paragraph paragraph, left-wing image, right-wing image, that's it. In that scenario, transition time should be more, like we are 5-point-4 before that time will come, until the user is able to explore that I can do this, then the developers also will either be in the same grade or they will be in the same grade. So, what do you want to say about that? Yes, basically you know 5-point-0 also will happen. So, in that scenario, it will be 5-point-4, right? So, after one year, you know like, there will be a very big change in the Kotlinberg code, in the WordPress code, right? So, basically, yes, for my video, we have so many projects, we use the custom fields and tablets and all the things, we build themes again and all, but after this we have to limit the project, and company will do that then, and definitely we have to do some custom concerns, take a longer curve for you, and make sure that it works at the most that it will work. So, basically, we will be not activating the default for our customer size, we will basically wait for the customer to become familiar with it, get used to it, get used to it, we will go even slower than what WordPress is made of. It depends on user, so we have that kind of made-up mind on the role of the button on that it will be very slow than what WordPress is. It will be slower than that. Okay, sure. So, if we are looking for the line, so, when we already show you the something, already we have a 6 to 7 and yeah, so, as we say, the slight actions and then is the the the basic questions that I, maybe I am not able to explain to you, now the question is, explaining that and now we have written in this way. You can write like this or you can write like this. When the full flight will take place, yes we are talking about the future. But when the full flight will take place, when Putin will be with other attitudes as well. Can we do this as well? People will start. At that time, people say that it will take a long time. We should have separated. Actually, no. I have an analogy for you. In 1986, the cars had a steering wheel, a horn and a gear knob. Crank wheels. Today, your car does not have a steering control. It does not have a steering control. It does not have a reverse sensor. It does not have a camera. It does not have anything but a gear knob. That is the analogy. In today's world, if we have a car, we can do anything. In your energy, as you said, the dashboard of the car was not there. When they started doing it, they manufactured the line. I was finding the car and they came to me. How did it not work? I had to use it because I purchased it. What is more of a choice? I did not know how to find it. There are a lot of places. We are already meeting people in certain ways. What the Gutenberg is doing basically, is standardizing those way of doing things. Basically, I do not think that will become overwhelming. It will become more standardized way of using it. And soon people will become familiar with it. Once you become familiar with it, you will learn to use it. Then you will wonder what was the first step. It was not like that. Again, everyone would be doing the same thing. So, it would be easier to find the points. You do not have a choice here. You have to use it. Similarly, you have to use it. But you would have to go out of your workplace. Can you know how that would be? Because right now, what is happening is, people are having very strong opinions on both of the things. They have Gutenberg, Gutenberg, etc. Once it goes right, then that debate will be ended. And people will figure out a way to increase the number. Like he said, it has been out for a long time. But definitely, it has not started actively playing with it. I do not want to play with the beta version of something that will go away. Or my customers will come up in the picture. I have to wait for it to come to production, mature it a little more time. And then I will start adopting for my customers. Because given something update or too early to use, can bed file for my customers and my customers. But I think I have a customer who has the role in feedback system, I guess. See, most of the time, we have to settle in here. So I have to put the production opinion in this. So basically, I made a website for a client. And many of the sites, Gutenberg, I have told that, if I take up, at any point of time. But many of the sites, Gutenberg, it gives me two reasons. Therefore, if the site doesn't work, I am done with that type. I don't want to go back to that type. When our site corrects us, that maintenance breaks me up. I am playing the client. I am also using it. From today, I am using it for the next 10 years. This is the roadmap. So you have to use this. You are creating an experiment. I am training my clients, they are very advanced. And I am not doing it at all. So I did that. Actually, the first thing that we do is, I think for the next 10 years, I am not doing it at all. But I am still doing it. I don't want to do my work. Until then, I am not doing it. What is the feeling and the realization? The main thing that I want to do is, I want to use it. I am calling it to the public. Community. What I am saying is, I am calling it to the public. I am calling it to the public. That experience is not public. I also encourage anyone who has questions to ask questions. So, this is the initial part. Yes, we have a question. What sort of a rating do you have? Yes. Yes. See, I love you. From my business perspective. There are so many base builders out there right now. What versus rating do you need to standardize if you are doing the thing? See, as a developer, I build stuff. And for me to actually make it easier to give it to my customer, I don't want to integrate with 10 other base builders. Right? Because I don't know which one my customer will end up using. But with Gutenberg, that problem goes away for me as a business side of the story. On the user side of the story, see, ability to customize pages, ability to build everything on my own. See, the template part of Gutenberg that is coming in that reusable blocks. Once this happens, you do understand the, I don't want you guys to understand the potential of that. But what it means is, your customer will start, after you've done with the thing, they will start using those things to create their own pages without your time. This is very, very big thing. And if this does not happen, I mean this was going to happen. If it is not Gutenberg, someone else will have done it. It's better if we Gutenberg and standardize it. Your question is like, I want to get out of this room and do I need the door? I don't know, I need a storage door or a rotating door, but I do need a room. The answer is Gutenberg, but the first proposal is Gutenberg and it is working for us. So there is nothing wrong. So the question that do we need to do is Gutenberg the answer may or may not be. They might. That's how software development is like. You build something and then you build something based on feedback. There is a possibility. I'm not saying that it will happen. There is a possibility that Gutenberg will change completely, or there is a possibility it's going to go exactly the way it is. So Gutenberg is the answer for standardization in this case. That is the goal that we are trying to achieve. Also, if you see many page templates are created in a single page website, a single website, right? So to eradicate those for each type of layout, we need to create another page template from the developer to eradicate those things. Gutenberg is coming up with a standard format that you need only one template and in that you can create anything you want. So there is a theme already on the WordPress repository which is having Gutenberg, CSS, and other platforms which are by default given by Gutenberg, and those CSS are CSS, JavaScripts, and other things are written over there. You can of course integrate any framework you wish to integrate. CSS framework you wish to integrate like bootstrap, foundation, anything. But like, there are classes written. There is a section full element section written over in the Gutenberg which gives you facility to divide your content in columns, rows, and other things. Yes. Yes, it is going to be used in Python 0. You know, you will have an option I guess, you will have an option to switch between classical editor and whatever editor. But it is good, it is more good to have just if we get used to it so that we can start it Yes, so Gutenberg has a content section in Gutenberg Why hasn't Gutenberg gone up? Because basically Gutenberg is your page renderer for now. You can use the tiny mc The wordpress renderer the underscore content that is your Gutenberg. Now, Gutenberg is the underscore content. That is the option. That is what Gutenberg is. Plus, I have to say that I want to use bootstrap or whatever it doesn't use a queue. You can use bootstrap to build your blogs, right? You can do that. It is the same thing that you include your scripts and styles as I asked you, I think that we have a CQD page from Science Script. It is in vannabadi. So, as a tiny mc from previous editors both of them were released in vannabadi. Now, there is a part that is released in vannabadi. So, I am trying the website in vannabadi. Because I don't know if it is vannabadi or not. So, I am trying the website in vannabadi. So, I am trying the website in vannabadi. So, I am trying the website. So, I am trying the website in vannabadi. That i.e. I am trying the website. That I am trying in vannabadi. So, My name, This name I am trying the website. Now, So, that is why security wise, automatic WordPress is taking care of all the security The code standard is available, the code standard is available, but the whole thing sleeps through, that is why And also by the nature of the volatility which is working on the street, the production can be much used My suggestion is like, when you talk about security, that specific security program The worldwide network is working on this When you talk about security, that is $2,000, $6,000, $1,000 I understand that it is not possible to give more than one network But even in such a community, security is common in the network If you openly hear about it, then worldwide work on security, in front of the network They find the cap and you swear to the specific commentaries Now it is very volatile, the nature of the network is working Nature of the network is launched But it is not available to the hacker We have got the size of the group, which does that And there is a bug bug in the program But as you are saying, it comes to a stage and then You have to go to the other side I am not saying that the public is here I think that is why you don't need the security You have to use the protection side of your network And the development is there, that is the reason Once they start saying that, the protection is there The amount of information is there Because it is a visual roadmap, I think yes I am sure of that That was good Thanks Thank you Okay, so let's clear one thing We haven't used the Gutenberg So the theme is everyone knows that there is an editor There is a portal, there is a sidebar There is content, right? Everyone, if someone has any confusion in that Okay, so right now, Gutenberg is in the content part Title, subtitle, content, images, whatever is there The content, the developer is there The underscore content, whatever is there And where it is written, the editor comes in So that part would be replaced by Gutenberg That time, we have a standard version The option would be to go to office And use the editor But currently we are talking about the Gutenberg Which is implemented on that part Which is phase 6 Three phases, currently phase 6 So, we have any other questions on the landing So, here only the user The user is the use case Being for object coordinator, handle yourself Handle yourself So, there are many languages Not many But there are a bunch of languages and technologies That we need to use If we want to develop something else Right? And that is different It's not just PHP It's called CSE So PHP and JS Vanilla, along with that So, what are the things That a developer, or a company, or an agency Who is starting the virtual development Or who are doing Still doing R in the business And want to be the Gutenberg bandwagon How can they do that? What are the technologies? They need to learn and they need to start So, I think there are many people Starting off with the voiders So, what is the way to start the virtual development What are the technologies That you think should work And start the virtual development So, basically For starting with Gutenberg You Gutenberg is completely based on The next, ES next What do we see Is not ES 5 or ES 6 completely It's based on ES next So, for starting off Learning Gutenberg Or starting off Development in Gutenberg First, you need to figure out The JavaScript basis I'm sure How many of you Have figured out the JavaScript basis The JavaScript basis Conceptually, let me share Sure, I'm sure Thank you Very few Thank you Right So, first you need to clear the JavaScript Basics That is a learning curve That you need to follow To basically clear What Gutenberg wants to build Inside and what is running Behind Gutenberg So, you need to clear it After that, you need to learn React also And after learning React And ES 6 They can jump into Gutenberg completely JavaScript And ES 6 plus That way After that There are so many people Developing a boiler thread You know, I saw that A boiler thread code and all But definitely You have to Create a simple block And you have easily created This block But if you want to add Some property on that Then you must have to Analyze about the React.js So, I suggest For WordPress developer The React.js are required So, expect So, I'm a designer So, I told I'm not very good at JavaScript And I'm not very good at PHP So, you have to Develop it So, it was not required To be an expert at PHP So, you have to know how to write The syntax of PHP How to read the syntax of PHP To check the function Or if you were If you are able to traverse through Those functions and those actions You can build a WordPress team After this I think that even What Gutenberg team has done They have used React as the base But we don't have React You have an abstraction layer So, if you learn That comes with the object It's not learning the whole React You can get started with Gutenberg You will not be a very good team developer Or a Gutenberg developer But you will be able to Make a vehicle And then you can get into learning React.js Or whatever But if you want to get your hands dirty You can learn the abstraction layer For that There are some courses online You can It's an open source It's called Period Gutenberg And look at it And the GitHub So, there is A handbook But most of the time So, you can actually look at the GitHub You can read There is a weekly file in every section You can read that weekly file Pretty much every course Online All of those courses are pretty much teaching In those reading plans So, if you don't understand Or there are really good people Who are teaching you in a simple layman's language You can learn the abstraction layer For those courses But you can get started With Gutenberg after going from here Between the WordCamp and here That's how much you can learn There isn't a WordCamp You can start getting Working with You can learn the abstraction layer After that I'll say if you have to learn here You have to learn Yes, next Whatever are those things So, basically In Gutenberg There are blocks in Gutenberg There are two different things And both require Difference process I think Voice So, yes My point is that Because We should be aware about the admin's demo Many people are available in the admin side Hello So, my point is that We should first be aware about the admin panel And then there was Then we should start the technologies So, we'll try After we wrap the event And before what after We'll have a small 20-minute session Where everyone from the group can Show how the Gutenberg works In the state it is right now So, if anyone is interested We can do that So, I have a question You said creating Gutenberg Blocks So, what are If you can So, learning to work Create the Gutenberg Building and patching Will require a lot of skills PHP, React Core JavaScript Everything in between But creating the block Will basically abstract most of it This knowledge out for you So, all you need to do is one of the building blocks That Either that or the other Object that they are talking about Once you learn that You will be able to create the blocks And I mean The way I say it's matter of time Because there are all the blocks that you need Are already created And all you need to learn is basically Using those blocks How to use Combine those blocks That's about it So, skills per se It will be more important From my perspective is to understand Right? Then actually create those blocks Because there are already so many Set of blocks you will be able to create After that it is like a creation Yeah, I think that way opens a challenge Of a style And this will zoom Like I know in matter of months It will be over Because almost everyone has Guys who have created these blocks In pages, page builders I mean Do not immediately support the Gutenberg So, the day Gutenberg was live There are hundreds of Specifically created Blocks that will go live So Learning to create Blocks now is already too late As far as I am concerned Learn, but it's better to now Take advantage of what people have already learned And created, learn to implement that Because that's why there will be a bigger gap Skill gap that will happen Is how to implement those blocks That these guys have created How to configure them The major job is to configure these blocks Than actually creating these blocks Okay I am so proud When I started to complain about Harbosh I took the share You never know The title would be there in that So, I believe that You should learn to create the blocks You will automatically know how to integrate the blocks That is a reference I can tell you That's not the case It's not the case People who necessarily Don't know how to configure that same I mean, it's just two opinions My experience is completely different It's true Okay, so As we are talking about blocks So that naturally brings in the topical Plugins and keys and all I am not actually For a long period of time Or a long period of time But what I believe is Is it true that If it should be less or the plugins Would add up in a great few blocks For example, I I saw Somewhere where People would be projecting to the system Two formats would be Starting with the product's blocks So you will start getting blocks Like you are currently getting text blocks And imagine a scenario where People would be saying So how do you think This block system That we are introducing in the world Would change the plugin scenario Or the things that the businesses are offering You guys have read it Yes So I will tell you Move is towards legal based Systems If you have played around with legal What this Gutenberg basically brings In mainstream Is legal based development What will happen is A lot of people will create tools for you To create those blocks So you have the blocks The need to create one more block Is basically going to reduce After a certain period creating one more block Is exactly the same thing as no value The value is in the skinning of those blocks The theme business I don't think it will get effective Plugins business Is still the valid Area of their work It's still you don't see So Gutenberg is basically creating I will say EY blocks So what you are basically doing is At some stage it will become a site builder From just a page builder And at that point it's How you and the theme Skinning the These blocks will win the game In that long run So the game would be skinning those blocks All these big guys Whoever have the UI chunks Any plugin or theme that Gives you a UI chunk Will give you a block for it Like that has to be there Either they do this or they die There is no middle ground yet So assume that almost every Plugin is already there So if you are creating a plugin That is already a gap You have a need for that plugin So it won't affect the plugin person But every plugin will now Add to give you a UI chunk If they want their adoptability to increase Because what is going to happen is End user This is something that I have been Kind of working with for the last few years With WordPress or at my company This end user is going To build their own sites Once end user starts Building their sites They only need help in certain parts One of them is skinning They will not need you to create Your site anymore because If by dragging out CKliana So they can't do anything Because it is already available It is a problem of learning Why was the problem of learning Because there are so many different things to learn But with Gutenberg that will standardize So once that happens The game is skinning So themes, business, etc. It's not compared But they didn't adopt They all have to give their blocks But in fact nothing will affect Gutenberg is not displacing anything The space for a new feature is still there The space for a new feature is still there The space for a new feature is still there But as it is said In the last three years We have been working on the This is going to go down and right And all sorts of things But I couldn't imagine a website You know First I have a piece of it So many of the Gutenberg is going to do The same what happened with Metabox The only experience The only experience I have Was when we made a site Getting ready for Gutenberg We used calendar forms And Gutenberg calendar forms We used that coming And the form that you see on the site Is created through a Gutenberg block Of calendar forms I remember using another plugin And I will tell you about it I was never Ever able to figure out The functionality working In the first place I had to use it in real life Everybody knows what I am talking about But I am not going to do that But when we created this Block functionality Everything was so nicely segregated My block is going to look like this It was there in one part And then all that It was so good It was so nice to see Because that It did not even take Two minutes to do Within two minutes Set up two forms for this Important for them to make it Compatible with Gutenberg And they have to invest Their time on running mall It will In the end it will Increase the efforts of end user How to use a plugin or how to use a change Let's talk about that So we have a plugin Like people like We can say We have created With a great team I can be the first in line To get those blocks But there was Specifically I just remembered a plugin This P2P plugin Or not something P2P To say Someone was the developer And he said that I am not able to support this plugin anymore I think this is what happened So that plugin is right absolutely You have to use it on your own So don't think this P2P's value Would push Obviously push P2P To get compatible with Blocks So hope that P2P's work Sold Someone who is What is the connection So don't think we will lose much of that To that old options And everything that is there Because MetaHouse is a predation To this an already existing interface We get used to We get used to using MetaHouse And we start using them and appreciating them Changing the style Yes we are getting used to it But we will change the style Till that time What is the difference What if they can't do that That's why we came up with this Same way We came up with this Which is If you cannot support your plugin Or you want help importing your plugin Which you won't have the right course That's what we are trying to do here We are trying to And we are also calling for developer scheme So we have three time at Govertra You can go between the block if you want that Please spend two hours And that's how the That's how the WordPress community So When people say that The responsibility Actually does not lie to the Shoulders of the plugin developer The responsibility lies to the Shoulders of the community And which is why the plugin Reposits the developers And as I said Once there is a race That is going to happen People will fall behind Fall behind So this It actually doesn't go with the community Statement But they are giving a very good amount of time See the idea is Like you said I cannot support You might want community clips I cannot support I am busy with something else I am not interested in that So See So that's how the WordPress community Can tell us Might be useful In mind not get content If you have Like a hundred other people We need it Some more tickets Selling more So So I am not really ready to go To know things for the So So Also one more thing WordPress community is running a Tied program In which all the plugins Like there is a Tied channel on Slack Where all the plugins which are not supported Are being deprecated And being removed from The WordPress repository So they are working on it So So So So actually people who want to Wear those plugins can Look at the network of the Tied And the plugins which are not being developed In them maybe like to that And cut out those plugins And start with them Also in Tied they are Doing code cats And other things If code is compatible with all the versions If it is not maintained or if there is No support request for that Also they are running Meaningless so on it So WordPress has a Slack channel Where all the plugins are So if you can read them What this channel is about So Anyone who is having WordPress.org account How many of you are aware Of Slack? How do you Slack? So all are on the right So WordPress.org Has its own Slack channel Where anyone Having a WordPress profile Can join That is WordPress.slack.com In that There are hundred many channels For each contribution There is a Core Editor channel Where there is a description going on There is a Core channel where There is a Work going on WordPress Where bugs and patches Are updated over there On that channel There is marketing channel Where marketing So it is kind of all the contribution channels Are there over On WordPress.slack.com Anyone can join And in that There is a channel named Tied Especially it is going on Of plugins So how Everyone here Is a WordPress user in one order So according to you guys How they can give their feedback How they can contribute in the project To make it successful So if you can tell them few ways In which we are all here Take part in So tell them the configuration I don't know And the second one is WordPress. That will be Like SCF So that will be Where you can contribute In the project One more thing The best way to give feedback Is to Install what is on the site Use it Find issues And post it on your Posting it If you cannot Find issues That is how you will be able to Build a better software That is the best way to contribute But there are other areas Like documentation is lagging behind us If you understand How good an work is working And if you are good with work You are good at Marketing If you are good at Content creation If you are good at digital You can go to marketing channel And help Create resources for people They are trying to create videos They are trying to create Courses, written courses On the adoption of the new work You can work with that You can go through If you are good at designing You can look at the design issues Or help them fix design issues In Gurdwara's work is exactly My contribution in work You don't have to be a developer You have to Other way of contribution is When you are going to work Can serve People about what you are doing Initially it happens Who moved my cheese effect How it will happen I don't know But Everybody will call it face So Look at it with an open mind Understand how it will happen And if you understand it In the community But Community people You can talk to them You can talk to them You can talk to them You can talk to them But That is also a kind of contribution You can You can write Text, bold You can write You can write You can write You can write You can write And as far as I know Dragon drop is only limited to One works right now Dragon drop in media Also Dragon drop functionality is in the back end At the inside And it is also not attracting The much in the long term In the front end it will be Easier to load And it will only call the required JS If I require a JS for a block only Only that part will be called in the front Not all the JSs will be Included in Making the sign screen slow Which is For a page which is for language For the second page in the handbook You can read that page and tell you Exactly how Dragon drop works And there is a lot of serialization And deserialization happens Every time you are reading the post For editing apps in the post It is because you say after a long time You put that, plus what goes out In the front end is taken care of By WordPress now Because of the serialization And the Dragon drop right now Is limited only to media Because they are still trying to That is my assumption right now That they are still trying to find you The other performance issues That is my assumption again Taking liberty to say that Abhisit media right now Blocks parent company They said click and it jumps One thing at a time When they reach a full action Do you want to add this as any questions Anything else you would Conclude anything else you would like to say Or I think pretty much everything is covered So the major part is You will have to install the book It is a plugin right now So you will get both the option of classic editor And book editor The soon you start getting used to it Will be more fruitful for you as well Going forward and for the community as well Because you will be getting the feedbacks and everything