 Hey, thank you all for being here. Now listen if you paid attention to the the title said a conversation worth having You're all going to contribute. Okay. All right. Seriously say yes Yes, you're all going to contribute. So it's not just going to be Q&A you asking us questions and we're providing answers that we think we know We're actually going to be asking the room questions as well We want to hear from you what your church has been up to what your church is doing But how about this? Let's let's pray. Let's let's do that. Matter of fact, who wants to volunteer? This is interactive. Yes. Yes. Yes. Come on up here. Yes. See you see what he just did follow his lead Follow his lead. Hey, let's pray for us. We pray no mic for us because we have an online community It is an online thing. Awesome. Let's go All right, let's pray father. I just thank you for this breakout session I just pray for all the hearts in this room that they'd be open to hear everyone online as Well, everybody listening that we would just receive and be open about online church and just learning Where we need to go and what's next and Holy Spirit just show us what that looks like Show us what it looks like to be authentic In online church while using technology and keeping our hearts still open and ready for you and Jesus name Amen Amen. Amen. Let's give him a big hand. Thank you so much Thank you so much. Hey, so listen, thank you again for being here. We're gonna ask that Again, please please we want your input what your value want this to be a conversation But I want us to get started this way. All right. Who has a Bible phone Bible anything Who wants to read Hebrews chapter one not the whole chapter just verses one and two Hebrews chapter one Verses one and two come on up. Come on up. Yes. Got the big Bible the family size Yes, Hebrews chapter one verses one and two reason I want to start this way is I want to begin with God That's who while we're here for this is his work And I think the author of Hebrews gives us a unique perspective about his character and nature and how he works That's gonna help set up our discussion when it comes to church being online. All right, would you read verses one and two? Long ago at many times and many ways God spoke to our fathers by the prophets But in these last days, he spoken to us by a son whom he appointed the heir of all things through whom he created the world Awesome. Give her a big hand. Thank you Yep, this is interactive. You're gonna clap. You're gonna you're gonna share. All right Here we go. So long ago at many times and in many ways got spoke to our fathers with the prophets Now here we go long ago is showing us God's track record, right? This is who he is at many times meaning he's consistent, right? He's constant and in many ways meaning he's creative when it comes to Discipleship because this is this is really all about mr. Bucky would talk to you a little bit about that It's about us creating a space and time when it comes to Accomplishing a vision and mission of our church that we are speaking constantly and also creatively Can I get amen for that? But in these last days he spoke to us by his son And so it says he God speaks to the prophets but then his also his communication is progressive First he uses the prophets to preach the word of God But then it says through his son the actual word of God teaching the word of God So it's something about communication when it comes to discipleship is also progressive, right? But the fullest expression of God's creativity is in Jesus because and I want to start that way because we talk about church online And we talk about things as easy for us to go systems It's easy for us to talk about technology what type of cameras you use listen if we don't have Christ We missed the whole thing and the fullest expression of the creativity the power Later I'll say he's the express image of God. He is the radiance of the glory of God, right? That's who God speaks and so if you love Jesus and you love your people I believe you're accomplishing your church's mission. We're just gonna have a conversation saying now that we're all online What does that mean or if you're even online, right? And I start that way because this 2020 came and all of us had to go online Whether it was on purpose or not, right? We went there by default Well now this conversation is well, how do we be there by design? We're going from default This is just what we all have to do as pastor Lee said earlier We all went to zero and now we're trying to move to doing it by design and here at radiant church And when we're thinking about what we're gonna title this thing We're honestly like hey, we're trying to figure this out So we're not like hey come here how well we're doing it No, we're gonna call this a conversation because we need to learn We're literally trying to figure this thing out. All right, don't let the cameras fool you and the smoke We're trying to figure this thing out. We are literally trying to figure this out So this is a conversation that we're gonna have with you so that we can learn From one another and I'll just start by saying this we were there by default radiant church has took in the position That we can make disciples online as well. We're gonna be there by design We're gonna try to communicate consistently and create and creatively Pointing everyone to Jesus. We're trying to figure out by being led by the Holy Spirit How can we make radiant disciples to Jesus Christ in the online platform? What does that look like practically? My name is Tim and I am the executive central ministry. That just means I do whatever pastor Lee says but I'm one of the pastors who sits on a senior team and I'm overseeing online So we don't look at this as just a creative thing this collaboration, but this actually sits at the table This actually sits at the decision-making table. This actually sits in a spiritual seat We have a position that we are praying through we actually right now thinking about hiring an online campus Pastor right because we don't pastor computers who pastor people wherever they are So we're going into that the first hire I made was mr. Bucky here mr. Bucky Thornock He's our online campus manager soon to be I'm being prophetic online campus pastor, but um But we hired him to actually be there We're actually meeting with people any way that we can we were there by default, but now we're there by design What does that actually look like and so here's what we're gonna start some of you may have been here You made that jump as well. It's not just something you kept going since 2020 is something you're saying This is what we're doing 2021 and then a future until God says something different I would like to take a moment now to hear from one of you or a couple of you What have you done and your church to go from default? This is what we just were doing to by design This is intentional this we're gonna use as a vehicle to achieve our vision and mission of our church So who's the first one to go give me a minute. Yep. Come on up here coming up here. You got to speak into the mic I'm sorry. We have online Community want to make sure that they are included as well Yep No, that's fine. So even that interaction. We're still learning. Oh, yeah We're not just hosting people in person on site. We're hosting people online, right? Even that right give you example that looks like when we're doing our broadcast service on Saturday We're trying to not say tonight Right. God do it tonight. They're gonna watch that on Sunday morning, right? We are learning Okay, there's been times where Pastor Lisa. Hey scratch Saturday We got to go live one Sunday because it said tonight tonight tonight All right, so please speak into the mic during this time because that will allow us to serve those who are Worshipping with us online. Okay. All right. So what has your church done? How about tell us your name? Your church kind of where you guys are that's your testimony when I hear all that but then also But then also what ways have your church intentionally now have lived in the online space and trying to accomplish your mission of vision? My name is Justin Burrell. I work as one of the production people over at Road to Life Church in St. Joseph, Michigan One thing that we have done to intentionally go online rather obviously like you say we've all went there by default One thing we have done is we actually built a studio room called the ivy It's I'll be honest. I think it's really dope. It's got infinity wall. We got crane cameras like it's for the church of our size it's really really sweet and Thursdays are all primarily online. We've made it a semi hybrid You're talking like max 40 to 60 people can fit in the room, but that'd be like you're packed in there like sardines So we have like some two bleacher seatings a couch just kind of made a real cool Kind of a vibe your room But again, that's primarily all fit for online. So when you're speaking or leading worship You're not leading worship to the room You're leading worship to the camera because those are the people were primarily trying to reach That's one big pivot we've made That's good. I can give him a big hand for that. It's a real big pivot, right? Please take notes. You've heard intentionality and you heard investment Anything you want to do that's going to be excellent. That's one of our values It's going to take you being intentional and actually making an investment I don't want you walking away and discourage saying man, we can't afford an affinity room We can't do it, but it is going to cost you something the same way we would do to create an experiment Experience an environment for those who are in person. Yep, you want to share as well? Yep, tell us your name the church red and quickly share how you've guys have been intentional with your online community My name is Ben. I'm from Hope Church in Spartanburg, South Carolina or Spartanburg in Greenville And one our church is always kind of streamed as far as we can remember before that. We were on TV We did some TV stuff, but like When COVID hit we had to just broadcast and so starting in 2021 We decided to actually launch an online campus that Instead of people just watching what's happening in the room We created opportunities for people to address the online campus directly and so we We host people in the beginning with like a welcome during the countdown where people in the room would see a countdown on the screen that people Watching online would see two hosts kind of interacting encouraging people to press in during worship and stuff like that And then the same thing happening during offering because you guys know like not everybody tunes in right at 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock when worship starts there the numbers kind of Yeah, and so we do a second welcome and then do an offering opportunity during that Time and then we cut back to the the sermon and then after the pastor preaches We pick up where the pastor leaves off and actually communicate and actually do like an online altar call where We actually pray and we have our teams trained to like pray if we're getting a word of knowledge or something like that for someone Watching online. We can communicate it straight there and we actually walk people through that process instead of them Just watching what's happening in the room. We're able to address people directly And so that's when a couple things that we've we started doing starting in 2021 Thank you, Ben. Thank you. I love what he said one thing We're trying to do is even in our communication But even in our mindset people are not watching us. They're worshiping with us. So he's creating an environment That's not just you're watching something. They're ministering to people whether that's through people hosting speaking right directly to them So that's one thing I want you to understand like that. We've made the decision that people can actually worship God at Home they don't have to be in person to do that that that the family is actually the primary way that God wants us to make Disciples and so he's providing his church Hope church providing experience for people to worship not just to watch kind of hear from one of one of the ladies I'm a single ladies. You know how to be single but um I love you guys, but any any of our powerful women of God want to share about what you're doing at your church or something You've seen going from dumb default to design. Yes, you're right here. Yep This one here, maybe I've lived a little bit, but Bucky. I'm Saturday night, Mary Oh here to radiant and I'm a grandma and a mom But I am also a college professor and some years ago I teach for a Christian College Spring Arbor University. I don't know if we have any grads here, but I Started teaching online and when they first asked me to teach zoom I was like, oh, I didn't know I was signing up for this Because you know, I knew enough about computers to be dangerous, but that is really morphed. I meet with you know I teach my classes online and I meet with my students and mentor them and minister to them online I belong to a women's ministerial group and we meet monthly To to speak online to talk about, you know difficult situations meet we may have with folks that we're ministering to and and Bolster one another up and I also mentor other social workers online that are Christians and Meeting with them one-on-one online has really been profound and I didn't think that kind of an intimate prayerful Relationship could happen, but it can because when Jesus is in it, it works Thank you, thank you Again, we're gonna break this up into 15 minutes section so my 15 minutes almost done But I will say this thank you miss Mary For people who are maybe I don't know if the online thing could work How about this in the Bible they met in caves? like We can't I think 2020 at least is taught us and in a humbling way We can't control the medium to which God wants to use to reach people Why not take advantage of every medium of every vehicle? Listen, you don't have to be an online lover to love people You just have to love people and use any tool God gives you right so notice We haven't talked a lot about like this is the web Coding no we're not talking about that We're saying if if you want to love people and reach people where they're at God has given us ways and technologies to come And again consistently and creatively show them who Jesus is and point them to him Right and so now I'm gonna have mr. Bucky He's gonna go kind of transition and then again. He's gonna make this a conversation as well So keep taking notes, please continue to be involved Great as mentioned my name is Bucky I've been a radiant for about a year now and part of why Mary This is the first time we've actually met in person because the only times we've interacted has been online And so that that's pretty cool I actually get to have a quite a few of those interactions where I meet somebody who's been serving with us in our online campus And then it's like oh wow we've been interacting and we've like I've shared stories about my my son So it's just very surreal to have those moments So as pastor mentioned When we're doing online church it we're not ministering to a computer screen. We're not ministering to some avatar We're not ministering to some digital Profile right we're actually ministering to people who are on the other side of that. We're miss ministering to families We're ministering even to nations Even within this last year. We had over 60 plus nations that were involved with our own services. I know with yours The different services will impact different areas different regions So we're impacting outside the four walls of our churches and beginning to interact with people families and even nations and so one of the things that I was just Thinking through as we are bringing this conversation in is why do we want to be online? Why why do online church I? Think it's it's a very it seems like oh well, of course. That's where the people are. Oh, it's a it's a it's a service That's available. It's a it's a resource. It's everybody else is doing and there's all these different reasons why but I think it's very Purposeful for you to ask yourself and your teams of like why are we going online? Why are we on there and it and there can be a myriad of answers It could be simply like hey, we're on lockdown and this is the only way that we can meet and after the lockdown We're gonna go back to in person because this whole online thing just doesn't work for our congregation Or maybe it's like hey, we want to do a hybrid model or hey We want to actually look at this as a is a real campus to be able to provide a Worship experience a church experience for people across the nation and even to the nations But in all of those if your answer doesn't start with Jesus being glorified and people being discipled I think we start getting into what I would call digital consumerism We just put put out content We're just putting out content for content's sake and if you don't know this already This generation has plenty of content and we have plenty of content creators Any one of you right now could go on and grab your Instagram account tick-tock There's so many different apps that you can go and create content and it's gonna live forever on there We have tick-tock preachers. They're preaching false gospels, but they're up there preaching There's not a shortage of content But I think what we can actually bring into this realm is Culture intentional culture and I think the base of intentional online culture is Going back to the roots of a discipleship if we see the person on the other side of the screen as someone who is being Discipled then we're gonna think about it a little differently Because I would think that you'd think about it in this way even as we've been talking about we've been we've been Automatically talking about mostly Sunday morning services or weekend services Online church is a little bit more than that actually because people don't just interact with us on the weekends People don't just even in our church buildings if people only interacted with the church on Sunday morning in your church building Then we have to really reevaluate. Are we effectively discipling people and so it starts to ask the question Okay, what does it look like for this person on the other side of the screen regardless of your situation? Whether it's by default that because of COVID lockdowns You're that's the only way you can reach your people or because you're wanting to do a hybrid system or launching a campus You have to ask yourself. How am I discipling this person and am I effective in doing it? And so going back to that that question of why I'm online am I online? I'm online for that person and I think some of the things that we've discovered is The people that join us online are not the people that would normally darken the doorways of our churches our buildings We're actually beginning to reach into people's lives that we wouldn't have formally been able to reach into because they were so afraid to come into a building We're interacting with people who are in nursing homes. We're interacting with people who are in other countries We're interacting with people. We have a lady. I'm sure she's watching online right now miss Jeannie from Welch, Oklahoma she joined us online and She she was looking for community She was looking for people to encourage her and so she joined us for our weekly prayer meetings and got plugged in and then she was able to plug in with our Be radiant class and she and so many of the different ways that we have to for people to join us online And we were we've been able to walk with her. She joined a small group She's a lady from Welch, Oklahoma joining a small group. That's meeting online from here. We're discipling people and I would say The challenge is is I would like to say that we've been doing it by design But it's been mostly by default in that sense. And so now we get to jump in and begin to ask the question of How are we going to do this intentionally? I Would say one of the the pieces of doing this intentionally is the issue of agreement So in Amos 3 3 it says do to walk together unless they have agreed to meet unless they have agreed to do so If you don't know this people online have a lot of content Even some of the people that join us online. They're listening to they're listening to Jensen Franklin. They're watching Creflodala like they've got everybody that they're they're watching and then they also join with us There's I think taking them to the next step of discipleship is taking them to a place of agreement And what I mean by this is how can we agree on what their next step is? How can we help them find a next step? And that might look different for each of you one of the next steps that we've put in place is Hey, you're joining us on a Sunday or for a weekend service. We're streaming prayer meetings every morning Monday through Friday at 8 a.m Hey, your next step. Hey, can you agree to come and join us for one of those morning prayers? We've got people online come and watch and worship with us and pray with us There's a great next step or maybe someone's like hey You want to get plugged in and start serving? We have a it may be called different for each of us growth tracks We call it be radiant class come and get plugged into part of the team or join a small group We provide all these things that aren't just about the Sunday experience aren't just about the weekend experience But it's furthering their discipleship process and every person is going to come in a different place But you have to get to this place of agreement We have to agree that you want to go somewhere and you want to do it with us We agree that you want to go after Jesus and we want to help you get there We want to help you go deeper in your relationship with Jesus and so we provide services we provide Resources we provide content and content. I made it sound bad content isn't necessarily bad because content Disciples people the Bible is Discipling people the Bible online is discipling people your online services that are recorded and just living online They're discipling people there are people that will go back and watch your services and get saved months years from now It's going to disciple people and so The the question and to turn this into a conversation I got a little preachy Get it The question I really want to bring into conversation is I've mentioned a few ways and again We're we're trying to figure out. How do we disciple people effectively? How do we go into those next steps draw them closer to Jesus and come into some of those agreement points? Some other things that we're working on Launching watch parties where people are actually in their homes Streaming the service on their TVs and inviting their communities because they need community It's not just about the individual We also need them to be in community and yeah, we we love that it happens in the chat But they also need to they need to bump shoulders with some people. They need to share a meal They need to actually have a face-to-face conversation And some other ways we're working on launching some meet and greets where weekly we're going to be setting up zoom calls or zoom calls where people will sign up to come and talk to one of our pastors or one of our Online team members and they're gonna have conversation and the goal of it is hey Mary Thank you for joining our worship our worship services. Where are you from? Tell me your story How can I help you get involved? Where are you at in your journey with Jesus? Hey, that's awesome Here's some great resources. Hey, you should join so-and-so's group here. Let me get you connected They're gonna follow up with you this week. So intentional things like that so the question I have and and I'd love to hear is like How are we intentionally? Discipling people online or do you do you maybe you have an idea or maybe it's something that you're doing right now that you would Say is intentional discipleship in the online platform? Yes Yeah, I would say the one thing that's on my heart is that we have to have an online pastor That there has to be someone that knows these people that knows that Mary tunes in every week and Gets to know that online community There's like two maybe two to three hundred people come in person on a Sunday for us But five to six hundred watch online They're not a second-rate community. They are members of our church So we need to find a way to get them plugged in are they at home because of a health thing or is it because of convenience? someone has to be in charge of You know getting to know them. Why are they at home and how can we get them plugged in? No, that's huge. I mean even as to be honest We're working on this as well like to see how do we actually pass through these people and make ourselves available? The challenge maybe it's a personal thing, but the challenge is like am I available to people? Am I available or have I made myself so busy and so full with trying to do online church that I forgot about Being available for the people and so creating those intentional moments And I think it's and it can look different for each church It can look different for you, but maybe even looking at like your pastor on call How are you creating pastor on call moments for your online people? Is there submission forms? I know that's probably a great way to In I think the awesome thing about all this There's so many free resources now to be able to do this you could do Video pastor on call like how incredible to be able to sit down with somebody and pastor them face to face And you've never met this person and it could go sideways really quick, but how real raw and intentional? Any other thoughts yeah, come on up Hi, I'm Carmen Gibson radio church Kentucky and one thing that has really worked for us is we have an online care card And people that are watching online have the opportunity to fill that out if they have care needs And it has been incredible to see the amount of people that I follow up with those so that we can minister to and care for and just one testimony is a Lady that watches from Ohio her husband is sick with cancer and We are on what we are her community and so we've been able to walk through that with them Through some really hard difficult days Even being online so we pick up the phone and actually call people And just interact that way and to involve them so it's been really good Phone calls who would have thought One more one more thought for anybody Yeah, go on up. You guys already said I think we're in the same conversation. We started with Really defining the the priority and the value of it and so it started with a pastor I like okay It was a media guy that we had who that was his heart deep down inside and the Lord had actually began already initiate that Anointing in his life and so we restructured everything we brought people on staff to actually position him in a place to develop people For that space and so he is now building Essentially, we talk about like the steps that people we want to take into these new levels of discipleship and relationship with people to Learn more about Christ so we have these defined pathways that we've evaluated as successful in the physical So how do we take those physical spaces now into the digital and make them just as impactful just as meaningful? And that's a little bit of a wrestle we've been going back and forth with the corporate worship setting like how do you? How do you create that for somebody in a digital space because there's something so supernatural that's happening that? But then wrestling with the limits of what we think God can and can't do so we've been really Having great conversations on those on those levels, but Ultimately it's connected people with people so we're trying to leverage technology that allows us to get face-to-face with people So there's apps now that work like texting you can actually video chat a conversation and that video chat can actually be going on For an entire month, and it's back and forth little small conversations that you're having videos So we're leveraging that all of the interaction that happens in our comments during services, you know I think in in to my own guilt in past you let people talk, and then you're like oh man great interactions happening But now it's like no no we have to dive into that interaction and then challenge people pray with people and then okay What's the next step they're taking then your growth track is online you connect those to a small group? That's online then geographically finding people to connect people with people and then now what we're looking for is like Okay, if you've got a thriving group that started in digital space now They're meeting together could you actually birth the church from that group that's going there and then giving them a pathway to even do That or even connect with the local church that you know as a part of your network That's like hey Here's a thriving church right next door that you guys can connect with because people need people and I absolutely agree with the value that there is an exchange that can happen on Between screens and online, but there there's something very unique Face-to-face and we want to cultivate that so we've really got to wrestle with what's best for people and make sure that we Don't shortchange them with any kind of substitute No, that's beautiful. I want to last thing I wanted to say and just to wrap this piece up is I Think it is great And I think a few people hit on this like the the pastoring side People are connected To a to a pastor there their sheep that need a pastor to and we are we are entrusted by the chief Shepard who is going to lead and guide us and they need us to be connected there We need to find ways that we can connect with them care with them pray with them love on them Provide needs when that needs to happen But some other things that just to put on your radar not to overwhelm you but thinking about like the church experience that we have in person How can we provide? Some if not all of that experience for someone no matter where they're at So think about this. How are we baptizing new believers in the online world? How are we doing communion right now? It's like hey grab some bread and some water and Whatever you got. How do how do we do baby? Dedications, how do we help people know that they're in a community that's committed to the upbringing of their children? All of these different things start to think about those and don't get overwhelmed as man I've got to do this. No you get to man. This is an opportunity You could we're working on getting prepared to go and dedicate some babies in other cities in other states That's such an opportunity an opportunity to love on people. You've never had an opportunity to do to love on before And so thinking through that and being excited about it because God is going to move through it amen Thank You mr. Bucky Before landing comes he's going to get into some pragmatic things social and all of that but here's thing And I need you to be honest I need you by raising your hand not just if it doesn't apply doesn't apply But I want to see if I'm not the only one has anyone thought through discipleship with the online community actually challenge what you do in person Let me rephrase that all these questions around face-to-face Pastoral call discipleship thing. What's your process has anyone ever has the online? Conversation at all touched home what you knew what you do normally right at all right, so let me ask you this question, right? What's your discipleship process now and that do you know that your staff? Do your people know that know what's interesting the online community doesn't have the luxury of Unclarity do your people know why you do baptism? Do your people know why you do communion or did it ready or did it just show up and watch? But in the online community, we're saying we're going from viewership to discipleship And we we got to be clear we got to be super clear But I want to give you grace because sometimes you may be thinking and we need a shepherd We need a shepherd we need a we need we need someone to come in and pass for this And you hire him and you hire her and then you give him that position and this one before you go Hey, we need this this this this from you ask yourself. Are you doing that in person? What's your in-person pastoral care look like? What is your in-person groups look like but online? Listen, we have to vet our online group leaders like crazy Like so like they're applying for the CIA or something. Why because we haven't seen them Thank you for being awesome. Miss Mary in normal. Yeah, so you're doing good. You're making us look good But but ready but in person does someone just show up to your grove track You only had one conversation with them a coffee and then you put in people in their home I'm preaching now. All right, so So seriously think about that, right? And so for us here at Radiant Church We just the pastors got together pastor lead led the meeting was like, you know what? What is discipleship here and a lot of that came from as we're trying to figure out discipleship out there? Right think through how you're discipling people think and how you're going from viewership to Discipleship from just showing up to actually being in community with people someone coming alongside of them walking with them and Matureing them in the gospel so they're growing up in Christ. Amen. Amen. Mr. Landon, would you come and do your little section here? It's a big big section. Yeah, so my name is Landon I am Radiance media manager and copywriter, so I work alongside these guys a lot You know church online is on social media, you know, you're on YouTube you're on Facebook, Vimeo, all those all those good spots, but just want to share, you know, some practical Things around digital engagement in social media that all can relate to church online and then want to open up to see What you guys have been doing throughout this last year that's been crazy and Just crazy. It's the best word for it So also, I'm usually behind the camera and not in front of the camera. So this is very Stretching for me. So some grace would be great But no super super excited to be here and share Share some of my heart. So first with digital engagement. I'm a part of our creative and communications team So we serve all the departments in our church, so I'm media manager and copywriter I help out with website all that stuff. We have a actual digital engagement Guru named Ron who's amazing with all things like ads and analytics and all that good stuff We have graphic designers. We have a Creative lead we have a videographer Alenna crushing it with that awesome contraption. She's wearing And yeah, we just have have an awesome team that we all work together we Run with projects together and really just communicate communicate communicate really well to you know get the tasks done to Help keep this thing running So that's how our team works and not all churches are Like that or have you know the capabilities to have that many people and you know multicampuses that adds another Dimension to that so you know not not all churches have to follow that plan, you know, not all you know ministries have to follow that type of you know organizational chart and That's okay. You know, we're not all You know Supposed to be like an elevation or you know all these different Different organizations that run different, you know, God has placed a calling on your church on your on your staff on your department and You know, you just run with what you have and You know, we we shift things all the time and our team, you know as we've grown as a church our team has grown we started much smaller from even when I joined staff a year and a half ago and we've we've grown in numbers and We've continued to add add people to that and just doing our best to serve serve online and Everything well the best weekend So I want to jump in a couple quick things regarding advertising and analytics we Regarding advertising really be purposeful. That's of really really big thing behind it. Don't just run an ad because you have some Something coming up, you know, like really really pray about it think, you know, what is God? Gonna do through this how how can we use this to you know, reach people reach people well If you guys didn't know there's something called Google ad grants for nonprofits That gives you up to $10,000 per month So I don't have a ton and ton of details about that, but really I would encourage you to look into that because We use it really well for awareness with just you know, everything from weekend services to Water baptisms to child dedications both in person and online, you know, just you know making people aware of Radiant church and what we are doing Free money, I mean you can't can't complain about that Another thing with Advertising something to consider if you don't have an in-house like resource you can always Outsource to a professional. There's a lot of Organizations and companies that will even run those nonprofit ad grants for you So if you don't have the capability on your team to do that yourself, there's a lot of great resources out there couple things with analytics Another great Google thing Google analytics great insights into demographics location data To see who is viewing your content which will then help you target Those ads that you can end up running to make sure they're being as effective as possible Last thing with that I would say really be intentional about setting up time to review Those analytics to review where people are joining from not just the total number and leave it at that But what age group what you know? Literally all all the subjects really narrow it down so you can target like oh we got a lot of Single women are watching from Grand Rapids. Let's target things there and you know Really really strategize behind that like just as you review weekend services or review prayer meetings and different events Review these because it will help you grow and it will help you reach your online church community So now into my favorite social media so Really the Lord has placed on my heart which didn't know you guys are gonna be so much on discipleship, but Having your social media be more of a pulpit and less of a bulletin and really really focusing on you know just Just engaging and discipling your your audience, you know not just Posting to post you know not just because oh that'll look good with the theme and you know you want to look great You want to be excellent all those things are great But really what's the why behind you're posting something are you doing it to? Disciple are you praying before you post are you praying about the people that it's gonna reach? You know it's not just you hit one button and it's done You know that's gonna show up on hundreds and thousands of different people screens and That one post that one you know sentence that you write in the copy like that can make someone check out your service That can make someone you know come and attend on a weekend and yeah, there's just Just a lot around you know just don't post You know you get your weekly weekend invite in you get your prayer meeting invite You get your water baptism coming up But no like share share what is being preached on the weekend to share clips share You know excerpts from what is you know What's pastor Lee saying? What's what's your pastor? What's your pastor saying and have your your social media reflect your church? Another thing is Look at it from the user's perspective You know sometimes we get in our processes and we get in our own heads about you know this make this makes sense to me Because I've been doing this for so long But to a first-time guest your website might be a disaster and might be Impossible to find certain things your social media might be posting Content that does not relate to to them like you think you think it does you know your your processes Aren't their processes so really think of it through the mind of the consumer of the one who's gonna be seeing your content and Give them prompts to engage with it give them questions at the end of your posts You know saying what was the biggest takeaway from? From the weekend share share your thoughts We'd love to hear and then share those share those testimonies share those share those stories that come in through social media because you know your other online people will see that oh this person from Oklahoma or wherever Arkansas they they watch the service and they They had their life changed they got baptized in their bathtub like I want that you know I want more of that So you know that can really really encourage someone so sharing sharing that content that You know makes sense to the consumer and makes sense to who you're directing it to is just so so important Um Excellence excellence is something that is a part of the radiant way It's you know something that we we strive for in every facet So you know whether that's the photo you're posting if you want to be as good a quality as can be Your copy you want it to be as engaging as can be you want it to you know really? Impact impact someone but you want it to be done well like if you're worried that you might have spelled something wrong Run it by someone else Download Grammarly you know read through it two three four times you know nothing worse than Spelling something horribly wrong and having Pastor Tim get an email because I spelt something and yeah, we don't want that You know that's that's not good. So Really just excellence in all always if it's just an extra 30 seconds to read through it again extra 30 seconds to make sure It's cropped. Well the photo the the reel the audio is good all those different things like those 30 seconds can Likely be a first impression for someone checking out your church and you know You want them to think that you do all things in excellence Um Last big thing is really be active and engaging you know respond to respond to messages when you get them so many churches and different Different companies or whatever just have like an automatic response like hey We'll be with you as soon as we can and then it goes into a folder and never gets responded to that's the worst You know have someone on your team who's willing to Read those messages pray about those messages if you have you know other people that can Pastors especially if you have Pastors who can like be monitoring especially a pastor on call, you know if a big message comes in and you know have someone available Don't feel like you have to take it all on your own, but you know Just engage with them the best you can on church online comments, you know respond Make people feel welcome make people um You know you can leave a like or whatever and think oh that's good, but no like a simple response like hey We're so glad you're here with us Let us know if there's anything we can do for your oh check out this website where you can give us some of your information And we'd love to follow up with you that that type of thing You know you're more you're more than Sundays, you know, it's it's a full a full week of Being the church, you know, you have people who While some come to the church only on Sundays, you know, they'll engage with you throughout the week They'll engage in your prayer meetings. You'll engage in you know, whatever you have so Just just keep that in mind and last thing I would say be creative and try out new things Especially Instagram stories. They're the best they go away after 24 hours Just you know experiment try different things don't feel like And also don't feel like you have to like copy what the big church is doing like don't feel like oh Elevation did this really cool thing and oh transformation church did that or radiant Kalamazoo did that like, you know every church is different God has called your church to where they are for a reason and Don't feel like It has to be this unorganic thing like, you know, really just pray about what you're posting pray about the content you're sharing And be creative try new things. It's it's great. So if anyone have any Just comments or feedback from the last year that you guys have Experienced on the social media side of church online Great awesome. No, no, thank you Landon. Thank you so much. No, it's great Thank you Hey, you so for the last last like 10 minutes or so I'm gonna add as much value to you as possible All of us are smarter than any one of us And so some of you are doing some phenomenal things tips hacks little tweaks that you have made with you your team How you're engaging people discipling people with an online platform? This is open for you if you have a question feel free to raise your hand Say your question now repeat it But if not if you have some other things you just want to throw out there that you just been doing This is your time to shine right because as you shine guy gets a glory for that. So who was yep. Yes, sir Awesome. So the question was What do we mean when we said for the online community? Agreement as we try to get people to walk with us. Mr. Bucky. Yeah, as I was mentioning, there's there's lots of Content out there. Like I said, we have people that are joining us for they're going to five different services online every morning They're not just coming to our prayer meeting I think the agreement place is when we agree to go to a next step with them and that can look like different things Maybe it's helping them get to an agreement point by like saying like hey, could you would you sign up for this small group? Would you actually give us your information and actually agree to start attending a small group? That's a way to get to us next step Maybe it's through hey start going to an online prayer meeting regularly Finding those ways that they don't just come and consume, but they actually start to Come in agreement with the culture and the way that you are Cultural eat structure for breakfast every day Like you need to have that culture instilled into people and you do that by having them come and start agreeing with it And I think even to the place of what Landon was saying of like there's all these different churches doing all these incredible things We're not elevation we we may think we want to try to be elevation But we're not we have a different culture and when we're inviting people in we want them to say hey Say yes to this culture like if you if you jive with us if this is like the the the the path you want to go down You you love our culture come walk an agreement with us and when you're in agreement You can walk together you can challenge them You can't challenge someone that hasn't agreed given you that permission and even in discipleship Another practical way that looks like so we have a class called be radiant on class the same thing may have new welcome or you know New newcomers we do that online. Mr. Bucking. I host that and we meet with people smaller groups of people and Actually as they take that class I say they want to take the next step and be a part of team radiance some type of volunteer Capacity they have a pastoral follow-up one-on-one Right we do that in person, but we also do that online So the agreement was some look practical do you agree our statement of faith? We have that a lot like people asking those questions theologically what about this the tithing question that this question and so agreement another way I would say that is a spiritual leadership and authority So if you're gonna have an online pastor, hey, are we are you gonna allow us to shepherd you? Are you gonna allow us to disciple you the same way you would do that in person? And so that's one practical way we look for agreement we set up next steps We interview people we ask them about their story their testimony they ask us and we say hey Is this a thing it's almost like kind of like a little dating thing right like is this a thing? It's the thing. All right, let's make it a thing. We do that. Yep How do we broadcast that we use zoom right now zoom? I know Scott Lindsay said that was this new curse word Use whatever zoom Google meet, but yeah, we use zoom So they're asking for the online community. They're asking about views. How do we looking at analytics? How do we kind of measure that how we measure that which one you want to take that one too? Yep We've actually done some reshaping of this we had some ways that we were Measuring that and so I think it's a it definitely flows depending on what kind of platform you're on I But personally and within what we're doing we try and look at peak viewership Because a lot of the different platforms have so many different ways to measure how people are viewing And a lot of this especially the social Sites they're looking at length of time and the average length of a video on YouTube Facebook You're looking in like three to five minutes And so what what lengths of time are they looking at one minute and three minute views? Well, it doesn't tell me how many people actually Stayed on my service if I look at the one minute views But if I look at peak viewership, you'll see this in the analytics within the creator studio for Facebook within YouTube and even with There's some if you use the free resource church online They have ways to show you these things But looking at that and generally that that peak view Maybe you have some other incredible resources But it does show kind of a steady line of how people have engaged throughout the service We found that's the the best and most honest way to determine viewership Yes Here's the link you throw to Yes, and I believe Check me on this. I believe we can share some of that right that we have like different documents and forms That's not copyright or anything right here the copyrighter guy, but um No, that's such a great question one. It's helping us like Repeat the question They're just looking for different documents and things that we have as you run into different situations Especially if you can't just be on screen all the time Right. So how do you train people? So yes, we do have that. We would love to get like We really want this to be valuable like get that from us And but also one thing Mr. Bucky has helped out a lot just hiring him as an online campus manager We have safety teams. You've seen them with the bright yellow shirts. You know what I mean? I like mine to be a little bit more incognito, but oh, well, but like that security, but uh Whatever anyway, but mr. Bucky came and said well, how do we doing safety online? What is our safety protocols for someone going like in on a comment section like what do you do? Well, then he met with one of our our least security guy here Came up with a whole Security kind of thing and now we're giving that to those who serve online as we go through that and so yes We do do you need it? Yes And we're working it. I mean that's new we're what a month or two into that So yeah, I'll answer a little bit more on it One resource so you can look because I know you mentioned like how do you answer certain questions? We have radiant church slash foundations with there's a ten-part foundations video set That pastor Lee dead that that's a great resource to go through pastor Lee also just did a sermon series About the radiant culture the the five found five values of radiant If your pastor can even do like a like sometimes it's just questions about like Hey, what do you guys? What do you guys believe? What's your values and having some videos videos are great because there's so much more engaging than just just text So create some videos the resource there also look into things like Knowledge bases so there can be websites where you can create a knowledge base where it's articles and You write those articles out and you it could be a question of like who is the Holy Spirit have it written out? Have it it's gonna take some time and some effort to put into this But create those knowledge bases and then have those links for your volunteers and your staff So it's like hey, you don't have to know the answer Send them to a resource and if you don't have the resources find somebody that does and and steal the resource I Think that's just gonna be your best way of going about that because you can't expect everybody to have all the right answers And then your last I tell my volunteers all the time your last default contact us like give them the contact us form Have them right fill out their information have a pastor do the follow-up later And then give your pastor a warning that you sent someone who wants to explain the trinity baptism of Holy Spirit and tithing all at once So please do that Now that's great buggy Somebody else you got a question or even a hack something that you're doing a tip that that's been really really good Something that's been a win for you and your team during this time Yep, yeah, come up here. Yep. We got we got three minutes. Well, that's until the online Community shuts off which we do value you come back next year. You get the after party and all that stuff. All right, here you go So just something that has worked well for us from the church plant perspective I'm my name is Kaylee. I'm with converge community. We're a brand new church plant We had our very first meeting last week of January 2020 Promptly Coven knocked us on our butts had to figure out. All right How do you take a launch team of 50 people and keep them going all of that stuff? I think one of the coolest ways that we found To keep people engaged is not just having somebody to moderate comments We do largely Facebook Facebook live. That's our that's where most people are tuning in But we've got our team at home people who Due to covert reasons are not leaving home. They are dedicated at home people They're moderating but they're also communicating to somebody who's at the in-person service who is going up and reading questions out loud Who is reading prayers that people are typing in the Facebook comments? And it's given our people a way to actually engage in the service itself With us. So those of us who are there in person Leading preaching doing music all of that we've got people at home and there's an intercessor there That's hey, we're we're filling you guys in and they're they're hearing they're seeing their questions on the screen They're hearing their prayers being read on the live stream And it's a cool way to take that one step further big church is probably don't have that option But if you're a smaller church try it out. It's been really good for our team. Thank you so much. Thank you so much All right, we got two minutes just 120 seconds. Somebody else give me a hack Something you do something that has gone. Wow. Yes. Yes Yeah, so he said watch your live stream. Yep, like it's game film to see what you can fix now Some of you you're gonna take that overboard, right? No be gracious. He's he's he's saying that we're I'm reading his mind But seriously watch watch what you do watch what you do and how you can do that Hey, we're allowed to keep this conversation going, but I'm just gonna pray for us just to honor you in your time If you want to stay stick around for a little bit. Let us know. Okay. Let me pray father. We we love you Jesus we truly do adore you Holy Spirit, we desperately need you God. I thank you for my brothers and sisters who are here to serve you I ask you to empower them to do what only you want to do God, we believe we're doing your will and that you care about it So ultimately it's you who must build your church and we live and breathe off that promise Teach us again how to abide in you to give the fruit that only glorifies you and help us Shepherd love and disciple those that you have put under our care is in Christ's name that we pray and everyone said amen Amen. Hey, thank you so much. Thank you so much