 even by starting with Christopher Stockman. Oh, is celebration really the word we want to use for 2023? Yes. Existence is endurance is what we did. I had a great time. Oh, well, that's become the topic of the town now as to whether or not people are doom-saying too much. And the film is just fine, actually. It was a subreddit. Never been better. A thread that was shared that had a tweet of mine saying now share. I think there was a stream with me and Drinker and several others on Open Bar. And there was a tweet saying that that was, you know, it was like, oh, they're saying movies are bad. And I was like, it's been reported as the worst year ever. I don't even know that what we're saying could be considered controversial anymore. It's pretty just normalized and accepted now. And then Lofty said, I listed, I think, 10 films. So like, well, these were good. And then I was like, OK, now do the bad one. Yeah, it's like, we'll give you 100 once and we're terrible. We need to stop counting the ratio. They say if you go back and you only pick the good indie films, then film looks much better. But if you go back and you pick the bad indie films alongside the good indie films, then the balance probably emerges at about the same as it is. Yeah. And we could happily talk about obscure indie films that have been seen by literally dozens of people. But, you know. Well, now it doesn't come on. Is it really a reflection of film culture and where we're at? I don't think so. I mean, I thought everybody didn't like every Disney film. Well, if you ask YMS. See, well, that's clearly we need. We need to improve our media diets, gentlemen. I was actually going to bring that up, Rags, because remember, he was very resistant to the idea that it is any worse now than it was. And so I said, you know, and I believe this is the one of the easiest ways to see it. It's like, so Star Wars is doing pretty bad, wasn't, you know, 20 years ago. It's like, Star Trek's doing pretty bad, to be fair. I don't know how good Star Trek was doing 20 years ago, but I know it was better than now. Then there's Indiana Jones was doing better than it was now. And it was what else? It's like, basically, spin the roulette wheel. Jurassic fucking, well, Jurassic as a franchise, I guess you'd call it. Yeah. Dinosaur. Jurassic. Marvel and Disney. Oh, wow. Marvel is one of the best examples ever because Rewind 20 years and it doesn't even exist. We've done this before, where it's like, pick any year in the 90s, or perhaps even the 2000s, and you will have an absolute. Well, we won't have to because Christopher Stockman is going to tell us about that list, and we won't even have to. Me trying to delay us from. You would have some absolute bangers of movies that have really made an impression and stood the test of time. And I think you would struggle in the 2020s to do the same thing. Is that right? Well, yeah. Chris Stockman can help us, but yeah. I was going to say, it's just not controversial to us, you know, like saying that. It's obvious. Yeah. It should be obvious to him. He does this for a living. I don't know. It's kind of like saying it shouldn't be controversial that the sun is going to rise in the east tomorrow and set in the west. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hang on. Some things are just so firm. No, we're fine. It's all good. Molly, you went on Open Bar to defend the last for show. Drinker, did you go spine spaghetti? Did someone bring up last of us and you didn't defend it? Oh, that's that really cool show. Yeah, that's a good show. I'm trying to remember what I said about it at that point. I think it was more a case of overall, my impression of it was good. It was a good show. And I think it's a good example of a solid video game to TV adaptation. And then we got into the weeds of just picking apart a few of the issues that we had with it. There were issues. I think the casting of whatever the hell weird name is as Ellie, for example, like, I don't think that was the best actress they could have picked. Stuff like that. I will say, as much as I agree that we probably should have gotten someone else, perhaps even for both roles, I still think both of them put in a good performance. I think, yeah, I think Pedro's was an excellent performance. Ellie warmed up on me, the actress. It took a while for her to sort of settle in. Yeah, I think Pedro was fine. I think with the material he was given, I think I can definitely tell the differences between his portrayal or, should I say, the joe that we get in the TV show versus the joe that we got in the game. And again, I think it's quite an interesting way to, it's an interesting thing to do, to compare the two. I can clearly tell they are the same character, just different versions of that same character. Yeah, it's very easy for my mind to link the two together. Like, it's a remix rather than a fucking assassination, which is what we usually get, which is why I feel like it does deserve to be highlighted in a positive way, considering all of the horrible shit. Anyway, why would I delay? We're gonna check out the best movies of 2023. How suitable for our year look back stream, I guess. Is everyone ready? Hit us with it. Chris, hit us with your personality. Whoa. I mean, I thought Matt would be kind to talk to you. You could have tried. I'm getting stuck with nice right now. Holy God. I'm just checking away. I don't like this intro. I gotta tell you, I like the old one better. We had that conversation before. We have. Advertisement. Well, of course we get the same. We're well written characters, Trini. I miss it so much. It's a great guitar riff, you know? The, you know, like, oh man. I don't know. Does it really work without the punch to the screen and then get stuck monized? I feel like that's really what brings it up. Yeah, that's one of these kids. It needs to be him popping out and then punching through the camera, gloss, shattering everywhere. There's one thing I get wonder, actually. Maybe you guys can help me. How does one become stuck monized? Oh. What is it? That's a terrible drinker. Oh, if the way was made clear, it would not be the way. It's like a spirit quest. You know, you gotta go on a pilgrimage through the mountains. You got to speak to the local shaman up on the hill and look on the whole journey. And then when you come back, it'll be so obvious that you're stuck monized that it will just radiate from you, like you're blowing. It's more a state of being rather than. Yeah, that's right. It's a state of mind. Four nights of fasting. It's not a destination. It's a journey. Okay. I want to read this book, but we can't until. Is he reading a book? This is stuck with me reading. Where were you 10 minutes ago, Alex? Yeah, rags. I'm sorry. I was too. I was not listening. Yeah, I can tell. I'm stuck monized. Is that the thing that happens in Quake? I think I think I'm conveyor belt. Is it getting stuck? Is it like the Neuralizer where it makes you forget the video you saw? Or is that just something that happens when you watch the videos anyway? I don't know, man. It seems like almost like the sort of thing you would see on porn hub. Well, you know, stuck monized. You get stuck by a man. That's true. But aggressive. Impact at the end, doesn't it? I'm just here to make films. All right, good luck. Hmm. Why don't you work on the videos first? And then we can. I mean, you're literally here in this video to talk about films. Yeah, I'm just here to also talk about films. This is like someone who goes golfing with I'm just here to play baseball t-shirt. Does he make films? I thought he just did. Yes, he's made short films and he's currently, I believe, completing production upon his first feature film, Shelby Oaks. We'll be very excited to check it out. Are we? Yeah. OK, yeah, I'm stoked. That's what we've been paid to say. I've been paid. That never happened before. Short options, only point. Refresh my memory. At no point in this video is he ever allowed to say anything negative about anything he's going, right? Well, so this is the best of and I believe one of the top comments on this video is I like when you made the worst of. And I think the top responses he's he's not going to shit on creators anymore. Isn't it really interesting how when you got into no, nothing about him is interesting. Well, not him necessarily, but his outlook on this like once he got into making his own movies certainly became super positive about everything. Yeah, the only thing interesting about Chris Duckman is purely meta. It's very much. Well, it's mysterious almost, right? It's like, you know, we shouldn't be shitting on creators now. I'm becoming a filmmaker and I would like the YouTube people to be chill about it. OK, when I think that you should embrace the reverse, you should be like, I'm becoming a filmmaker. You guys better not go easy on me just because I'm making the film, right? Yeah, go the opposite direction of like a lot of honestly, like AVGN RLM where they end up making something that even they are ashamed of. It's like, try to make something you're proud of and then accept the criticism of it, which to be fair, I don't imply the red light media or AVGN haven't accepted criticism. I think it's a cop is great. If you've seen Space Cop, it's one of the best crappy movies I've seen in a long time. I I I wanted to love it. I wanted to love it. I think there's there's there's there's gags in it that probably seemed better like on the script than in reality. You know, one of the guys I won't forget was when Chris Evans is Space Cop. No, Chris Evans. I had that kind of money. Chris Evans is Space Cop. Boost MCU world for him. When he's he's activated his like screen visor, high tech helmet, but there's loads of porn ads come up on it and he can't see. I thought I thought that was funny. They're predicting the future. Yet another year talking about film on this platform. This is crazy. I've been doing this for this is crazy. Isn't it remarkable how he manages to not raise or lower the voice? He doesn't even speak a little bit different all the time. He just does all the same. Call me unconventional as well. But when you've been doing literally the same thing for ten years, it sees to be crazy and just becomes reality. Isn't it crazy that we're today? How crazy this is incredible? I can't believe another year can't believe it. You just want to be like you want to like click your finger in front of you like, Chris, Chris, Chris, Chris. The cameras rolling. So good to be here. I'm so crazy. Is it possibly his attitude is more like, I can't believe I'm not a successful Hollywood director yet. It's crazy that I'm still having to make fucking YouTube videos. What was the frame? Was it that we felt like he was a wannabe? We said it wasn't quite a wannabe Spielberg. It's almost a wannabe JJ Abrams. Like it's almost. If you're going to be a second right version of someone else. Don't make him what's I. I don't know if interesting is the right word. An observation is that it feels to me like Chris Stockman is obsessed with the idea of being seen as like a filmmaker, more so than he's interested in the actual making of films. It's kind of strange. I don't know, man, like when you watch his reviews, about 50 percent of them are just production information about who's directing it. Who did the cinematography? Who did the sound editing? Where's the insight other than just like listening? You know, people who are involved, but not really. Oh, we'll get to insight how they do things. Read his book. Plenty of insight in the book. OK. On the video, I'm sure. Yeah, I'm ready to be surprised. Ready to be stuckmanized. Yeah, I don't even know what's going on. He really he really captures the essence of. Whoa, dude. Yeah, I am utterly convinced by this perplexion, I got to say. So much has happened. This is the sort of thing you would say if your channel had just blown up. Yeah, you're like, oh, my God, I can't believe suddenly I've got like 100,000 subscribers. Like, well, this point last month, I had nothing. This filmmaker needs a filmmaker, maybe a director to be like, hey, bud, your motivation right now is that you're elated and ecstatic that you've reached this level. You need to convince the audience that that's how you feel instead of saying it because you feel like you probably should. And I don't think he captures that motivation. You know, I'm not feeling it as a film maker myself of YouTube accounts. That's a few years and it's time once again to talk about the best films of the year. And as usual, I want to start with some honorable mentions. You guys know these are my picks. These are films that meant something to me. These are films that impacted me in a specific way. But they don't kill. They're not good enough to be one of the honorable. Yeah. Honorable mention implies that they didn't make the grade for the list, but there's something about them that is still worthy of mention. Yeah. And I really wanted to limit myself to 12 because numbers. Because Chris, why do you just do 14? He's like, hmm, I don't know, man. Seems a little much. That sounds a little exciting. It kind of ruins it, doesn't it? Don't want to go too crazy on those numbers. You meant to do 10. That's what you meant to do is 10. Well, if you're going to breach the 10, you may as well just keep all the ones you love the most. Well, that wasn't an nostalgia critic thing, right? Elf. Top 11. 11. The right time. Or they were just really phenomenal movies. And those honorable mentions are The Boy and the Heron. Are you going to talk about it? No, no, this is a list. No, he said literally just mentioning them. Yeah, he's literally honorable mentions. Yes. They get mention. It's just mention. So what's funny about that, I guess, is like in a normal top 10 list, if you're like the honorable mention, they name them and then they're just like a film that was maybe like a line. But his version, it makes sense. They would just be reading out the title. The exit. Maybe he'll say they're all great at the end. Eyes, bottoms, still a Michael J. Fox movie. Are you there, God? It's me, Margaret. Win evil. Margaret movie. Bo is afraid. This is a lot of mentions. Man, why not just make a top 20 list? Why not just talk about it? This is your end of the year video. You only have to make these once a year and it's 14 months long. Because here's the thing, like just saying like, oh, yeah, these are my honorable mentions. I like them. And then here's the list. That doesn't help anybody. Just have them be part of the list, you fool. He just said what genre it has. Like, is it like a horror or something? Oh, come on. He doesn't know that. Oh, sorry. I thought you watched that. The boy in the heron is in the bird genre. Ah. Also, as we stream, I am actively balancing everyone's audio. So keep complaining. And I mean that genuinely so I can tell if we're there or not. Yes, do not quit. We will. OK. All right. Loved all of those movies. Enjoyed all of them in their own way. They're all very sweet. Enjoyed them all in their own way. God, it's so fucking useless, holy shit. If they were special, then you would have made them part of the list. Special. Well, they're a separate list. If anything, this is the better list because it's before the other list. Well, and also, look at the time. It's only 14 minute long video, which means each of these films are going to get about a minute. Damn, yeah. Cool. Yeah. Oh, no, it's going to be less than that. Which is, by the way, someone might be like, I need to get to the main list. It's like that's unscripted as well. So he couldn't lay out. I assume this is a script. I assume he's got more than just a list of them. I got to imagine, surely he has a problem of, like if he has limits that he poses on himself in terms of time, he goes over that when he writes the scripts and then has to cut it down, right? I can't imagine making a script for a 14 minute video that's mostly just descriptive and then saying, nah, this is too long. Gary. I'm going to cut this down. You're going to trim the fat. Speaking of trimming the fat. Hey. I saw you get that one. That's a very long time. That's a very long time. Gary's like, is that fetsive? I don't know. I don't actually know. I figured out. I know. I'll take it as offensive. Good to see you. How are you? We're doing Watch Together shenanigans if you want to jump into the link and join us. We're checking out Chris Duckman's top films of 2023. Oh, my goodness. I'm sorry, Gary, but CeCe did not make it into the top 12. What? He gave it an honorable mention, literally mentioning its name. This was a film which I watched. It was a film. I have put it in a human way. Of images displayed in sequence. At high speed. I think it was a thing he did say that it was a film that meant something to him. It's just that we'll never find out what precisely that means. We don't know what it means. Maybe he got diarrhea after one of them. I don't know. Oh, yeah, that could mean. Yeah. That has meaning. Honest, we got that much out of him on anything. So does he mention more on other films other than he saw them? Oh, well, I think we're going to actually, yeah, we're all very excited. Strap yourself in, boy, because you're about to get stuck on ice. But they didn't quite make the list, which we're going to get into in just a second. But first, I want to give a big thing. They would have if they were better. Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm fucking going back to tears. I was like, oh, what the fuck? That looks great. What the hell? No, no, no, they always look gross when they're cold. And then they look gross when you're numb with them. But that looks like it's been out of my way. Yeah. This is like a disposal system. So if you throw it off, like they'll come along, put it in one of these string things over the first bag. If you want to go all over twists, go to. And it looks like they took out an organ on the other side from a dead body. Probably. All right. Hey, Gordon. No, no. It almost looks like a face pressed up against the. Yeah, this is Edward Munch's lunch is what this is. Well, and the side portions change size based on. So like if you poop more, if you vomit more, they'll give you bigger passes as you know, based on. Hey, when has nice nails though. Wait, that means that this is the fact of people that did this, right? Provided the footage. Like, why would you make it look nicer? You know how like in McDonald's, as they'll do this, I don't know if you've seen the behind the scenes, but the way they do that shit is amazing. They have like all these kinds of machines and absolutely a lie. And then they make it look really good that you like you buy it. It's like a crushed up into the corner burger that's you poke at it. Deflates. What could also be his wife, right? I guess. Oh, that could be his wife. Is it packaging? In the back. What's his name? It's a spoiling greenest people. It's easier than ever by delivering. No, it's just when they stole it upside down. Don't show the part where it's nasty and frozen. Show the part where it's finished and you've dressed up and, you know, I guess this is honest. This is what I guess. Yeah, I don't blame it. Obviously, they never look good beforehand. Move meals right to your doorstep. Their team of gourmet chefs create each meal using only ingredients with integrity to help you feel your integrity. So like, all the peas are still in the integrity? Well, I just want to say I kind of stand as duplicitous. The chicken wasn't a liar? Is that what you mean? This was made for upstanding citizens. Have you ever tasted a lying chicken? It's like stringing in. I know it's honest ingredients in this. Made with a hundred percent great integrity. That's all day long. This bustling holiday season, you might be looking for nutritious flavorful meals to fill you when this came out after the holidays. Back to America's number one mango. Man, that looks normal. That looks like that looks like agnog just to be clear. That does not look like a mango smoothie. It could still be spooked poop juice. You don't know. Ready to eat meal delivery service can help you eat well for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. It's so foreign. That looks like that's a Christian drink. That's a Christian drink. I guess you want to have this. This should be Chris Duckman beverage. You're like Billy Mays here. Welcome to the smoothie. You know what I have like? Hello. Today we're looking at factor food. I am I'm really informed that humans require food in order to stay alive. This is food and it can get delivered to you. Billy Mays here. Here are some mango jizz in a cup. It should be good. It's really good. It's part of the ad. You know it's part of the ad. Eating creatures of the planet earth. Billy Mays here. Sourced from plants. Are they going to show Chris Duckman eating the food? Because that was really going to do the crusty thing. I'd say like I don't buy the taste. I don't buy the taste. Right. It needs to be the guy from Shelbyville who like he drinks that mango one and then his face like contorts and shrinks. He caves him in the mouth. He's drinking turnip juice. I love the turnip juice. Paired dietitian approved ready to eat meals. This looks like something you squeeze out of something else. You'll save time and stand. I always wonder what dietitian approved. Well, the dales. Oh, yes. Yeah. Like if you put them like if you went outside to the garbage can or the bin as some of you call it and you just like stuck a faucet to the bottom of it and turned it. That's what would come out. You just drink it right up. Hey, there's a really good for your immune system. There's a scar on her knuckle where she hit her husband. I feel like her hands are more interesting than your average Chris Duckman review. Yeah. There's more conversation to be had. Style while tackling some of the box cut. So yeah, why not just fucking open it? You just peel it. No, those peelers are a lie, by the way. They never come off. But you just try one. Give it a shot drink. God damn it. The standard procedure is you try once. It doesn't work. Get angry and then you get the box cutter. Exactly. Yeah. And as a peeler works, you just get a third degree burn afterwards. Anyone. So it's part of the process. You're hard to do. So you can cross makes it taste better off your list this holiday. There you go. That looks like you couldn't just peel it off the top. You needed a box cut. Again, where were you two minutes ago? Wake up. I'm sorry. I was I was I was literally watching the video. I was looking at it was paused. I was looking at the things. I was looking at the great things. This is sweet. No, we were talking about it for about a minute there. That's fine. It's all right. It's fine. It's fine. No, no, it's fine. It's slanderous eyes. Isn't it like the middle of the day where you are? You don't know. Waking up. Just waking up for this. I'm already a can in and I'm still. Take your energy drink and we need you up and ready to go. Is it? Yeah, come on. You don't go food. Whatever. What's your favorite don't go food? Is it this? Um, is it this? I don't know. I like all kinds of food. I suppose I suppose. Oh, gosh. I don't know. I have very broad taste. I don't know if I can narrow it down. Let's go with today. We'll say that I really I'm in the mood for sushi right now. That's what I really that's what I really like. That's what I'm in the mood for. Today's sponsor is sushi delivered straight to you in the package and it's really good. I have to be shaken by the postman and thrown through your door windows. That's something. Yeah. I was going to ask about because some of it mentioned, isn't he a filmmaker? Wouldn't you expect the ad to be like kind of awesome looking and dynamic? No, no, that's that would be if he was passionate about making film. You would see that shine through in his. Well, I guess his everything that had to do with, you know, like videos. I think I think the more relevant part would be that the passion probably doesn't exist that much for his YouTube videos. Oh, no. If it ever did it certainly doesn't anymore. You're just saying that because of his monotonous voice that he's used for over a decade. You're just saying that because of his honorable mentions. Oh, I mean, I'm just saying that because he's basically admitted as much, right? That like he views this is lesser than like making movies. I think so, yes. This is a stepping stone this whole thing, this whole experience of YouTube. I assume whoever he's handing the camera to is not a director like a friend of his. Well, no. He's the one that's filming right now. Yeah, it's very easy. Okay. Like, is he actually filming this? So I thought he had the nails. Chris. I'm gonna be honest with you guys. When Mel suggested, I was like, wait, that makes more sense because I don't think the people who make this food would have allowed this to be the ad footage. I don't think so. I want to I'm opening it with a box cutter because that's a really weird for you all of it. Like when it looked in the beginning. I'm surprised that I've done an ad for a company and the entire promo like flipping open a thing in front of various different settings. It was like three second videos. It was awful. And so I had to be creative. You have to film it yourself. Look, the people who make this they're they're their chefs that make ethical food with integrity. They're not filmmakers like Christopher Stuckman. Irrigate. You can't expect them to, you know, have incredible filmmaking qualities. You know, skip the meal planning, grocery shopping, shopping, prepping. Yeah, let it flop out. Yeah. I wish mine could have done that. Yeah, I wish suffocating us. You need the squelching sound. No. I want it. Frozen meals delivered to your door. Factor has made meal prepping a lot easier this year for my family. Time is of the essence. We're always You also want to zap him with a little tazer while he's talking just to make him go ehh ehh ehh ehh ehh ehh ehh He doesn't strike me either as a guy who's like super busy and like high energy and like I've got so much to do. Maybe that's it. Maybe he's made he doesn't strike me. But his wife strikes him. He's made the equivalent of Lord of the Rings in the past few years. And so that's why he's so low energy because he's packed it all into these wonderful movies that are going to come out. So yeah, there you go. Your faces are red now. I really want the wisdom to tell me if he's eaten it. As soon as the ads finish the recording they just fucking toss it into the pen. The camera just pans the camera just pans off a little bit more and just like a box of Domino's pizza. I was like ehh ehh ehh ehh ehh ehh ehh This is to show that it's ehh ehh ehh ehh ehh horrible I'd eat more of it. Very busy. There's always something to do and it's been great to have fast. This is part of the the whole like the anecdote portion of the ad. You need to pitch it with an anecdote about yourself and why you need to do it. I'm not shilling for it because they paid me. I'm shilling for it because I use it and I need it. That's that's that's what the truth is. Yeah, that's right. I'll die if I don't eat. That's true. Damn. You can't prove that. Assuming he's not a cyborg. Well, no, he was a cyborg. He looked better than that. I mean well if he was a cyborg you'd have more of a lively speech pattern, I think. Yeah. The cyborg would try harder. I think they would know to fake. I think as well if he was a cyborg he wouldn't have aged and I'm just comparing the face before me with the face on his thumbnail. Or sorry on his his icon. And he's gay. He's he's he's looks a bit different. He looks changed a bit. Help eliminate a lot of guesswork when it comes to meals. So head to factors75.com. What's the guesswork really? You're guessing about what you're eating? That looks like shit. Is he talking about the grocery store? I don't know. That looks like movie balls. But it's on the back of all the labels. And then you go to the store and buy your food. You'll be the same amount of calorie counting because they're going to provide you the calorie count in both places. It'll say well yeah because the the box in the freezer that they deliver straight to your door code name stuckman50 is going to be the exact same thing as the packaging at the grocery store that tells you all the nutritional information. Unless you're talking about like the the complications of cooking it. But I mean it's pretty straightforward. You put it out of like you put it in the oven you put it in the saucepan for like whatever amount of time you're supposed to and then you just put on a plate. Yeah cooking isn't actually very complicated at all. It's complicated. Lies. I do it all the time. Lies. And still and still we just cut a better ad than he did for this product. So you're welcome. Yeah you guys can do that. You guys can do that. You need on your store. Royal wheat. That is right. That is chicken because that is very unappetizing. That is not an appetizing chicken. Yeah I'm with Fringy on this one. I think it is like a golem chicken. Like it's you know functional. That's a mountain. That's a mountain. Do you marinate it? I mean I don't know. It does its job. I just don't know about the way it looks. I keep golem. I don't think functional anymore. Golem doesn't cook. Golem. That's the kind of chicken that golem would eat. Yeah you're right. Exactly. Oh and use code stuckman 50 to get 50% off. Yeah. Oh wow that looks really yeah. You know what? I'll just go to the grocery store and do it myself Chris. Just lost my appetite. I appreciate that. I've gained my appetite. That's factor75.com and the code is stuckman 50. That link is in the description. What does the 75 stand for? Get stuckmanized with the hell. What does the 75 stand for? 50 times. I guess they weren't the first to get factor for like founded in 1875. Well here let me go to factor75.com and we'll see why it's called factor75. You go on that little hunt we will continue. All right. For 50% off your first factor box thank you so much to factor for sponsoring this video. Thank you. When it comes to film in 2023 a long time mainstream movies didn't quite deliver in the ways that I hoped they would. Whoa being critical I see. Easy there you fucking bitch. Welcome to the alt right. Pretty toxic I don't know. I feel like a hundred filmmakers just went oh wow my feelings damn. Okay. I worked so hard on this. My god. And that led to some disappointment. It led to a feeling of detachment from film this year. But how are you doing? You said you're not allowed to say that. How is this allowed? Yeah how is this allowed? Is it because he's not swearing that like that means that he isn't negative? You're shitting on creatives right now Chris. I don't like that. That's right. That's right. Damn it. I really say it's hard. It's really hard. All right I can't find out why they're called factor75. I'm looking around for the about us page at the bottom of the you know on the website and I'm looking for like oh we're factor75 because we think that 75 maybe that has. Ooh maybe you're right. Yeah factors. To a feeling of detachment from film this year but when I really sat down goes to Hello Fresh all the movies I saw in 2023 I realized there were a lot of gems. Yeah that doesn't change the original statement you made but okay all right. All right. Because of that I've decided to make this a top 15 list. Why did you make it a top 15 list? What? I mean each of them are getting less than a minute for sure now. 15 and yeah because of the ad. But we're almost three minutes in and he doesn't actually listed anything yet. No it's been a fucking ad. So it's an average of what? 40 seconds per movie? Is that much? It's more than a usual review. The outro as well. How long is the outro? He's got to stigmatize us. Damn. The fucking ad is going to get more screen time than any of the movies. Guys he's just here to make films. Okay. Film. I'm still waiting for him to make film. Make film but film. There's some garlum chicken. I thought it was 12. That's right. I don't know why I thought it was 12. Well maybe it was originally 12 but then he loved so many put 15 and then he left. I didn't follow him so I could. He left a bunch of the ones that he thought were good but not good enough in the honorable mentions. The pit. I can't wait to do this. I've got to hear his his top list now. Let's do it. Well you've only got 20 minutes before you'll have to go right? You have to leave us. Get through it, leave us. Every time I put it down to 10 there were like five other movies that I could waste more time. What? So what you're saying is 10 add 5. So you couldn't fit in 40 seconds each for your honorable mentions anymore? Nope. Was that too much hassle? Imagine making a video that was longer than 15 minutes. That would be nuts. Cringe. And I find it interesting too that he's describing this like it was a crazy adventure. Like I was coming up with my top 10 and lo and behold I had 15 entries. What? Wow. I've seen two of them and they don't belong in there. Now I know truly what it is like to be human. Well I'm going to have a video by talking about my really intensive process really slowly and then I just give each one a half a sentence. That's good. Oh shit. Can we put this on double speed? Did Tom Wilkinson die? Yes he did. Yeah. Oh that's RIP. That's sad. I love him and everything he's in. Yeah like that one begins of course and he's fucking awesome in Patriot even though that movie is pretty controversial but I like his performance. Is it? Yeah that's Yeah he's good. Unfortunately. Yeah Rock and Roller I recommend that too he's awesome in that. Yeah that's good. So here we go. Here we go. Number 15. Number 15. Here we go. Ah Jesus Christ the fucking hell. Play it in. Play it Johnny. Well so this will be fun. Who's seen Tsuzumi? I have. Tsuzum. Nobody's. Oh well. Chris tell us about it. Wait maybe he'll convince me. I've seen Tsuzumi. What was it like Chris? Was it good? It's okay. It's it didn't make any of my lists. I don't know. Not even top 15? No. First up is another. Dude those fucking intro were just like seven seconds. So how many minutes are we at? We're three minutes and 14 minutes into a 14 minute video. And he's just starting his list. We're coming to a first of 15. That's right. It's StarCross romance for Mako. Tell me what StarCross means Chris. To Shinkai. Filled with dazzling sequences and state-of-the-art animation. Tsuzumi evoked emotions. So it looks worse than the old ones? Okay. Oh my god it's like an AI of Chris Stockman reading. It made him feel it made him feel emotions. Oh what kind of emotions? Maybe we'll get that hang on. Human ones. You want to go to human emotions? That's human. What emotions? Human. Two men. So state-of-the-art animation just means mixture of like CGI. Well that's the thing isn't it? It's like that state-of-the-art is just replacing really good. It sounds better than that. In me. Especially when you consider that the primary relationship involves a chair. Whoa, whoa stop everything. I have to see that movie. He talked me into it. Damn that was confusing. This is the problem is the problem is the people that watch him for whatever reason like he's got no incentive to put any effort into his videos because people just keep watching them. This was fucking worthless. Somebody read a fucking list. It's not the condensed sorry but that review was this is a film by so-and-so that involves a chair. If he was my favorite creator and I would see this like okay now what? Should I watch it? Yeah this point. State-of-the-art animation involves a chair. I guess I'll just check it out. Yeah okay. All right I assume nobody here thinks this should be on anyone's top list. I haven't even seen it though. I am genuinely not surprised that this is on Chris Stockman's top list. I'm not surprised either. I'm surprised it's not higher. It's the rest is number one. It's a nice safe corporate approved opinion to have there Chris. Well let's get a 10 second story of Barbie. Here we go. I can't believe these tiles. This fucking long ass tiles. Why are we doing this? You could have doubled the review size. Barbie's a movie about a doll who comes to life and goes into the real world. Number 13. Some of the details. Oh whoa calm down. He doesn't usually go that deep dive. And it's now a part of the real world. This is the video version of padding an essay to make a word count. Yes. You're told exactly. You gotta write a thousand words. This is all he's doing. It's just padding. I get accused of that all the time. Chris Stockman never used college rule on his essays. That's for sure. Highest grossing movie of the year was technically based. Hold up. I just realized it's 2024 almost now. I need to explain the reference. All right. So notebook paper typically comes in two sizes which is wide ruled in college ruled. All right. College ruled the line. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. More lines on the page with college ruled. That means if you have to write a bunch of stuff for pages you want to use wide ruled because there are less lines. Back in the olden days when we used to have to Gary will understand the reference of paper. I will go or he's going to write things on paper at school. I remember he did. Some of us still use it. An old timey reference to paper. Now tell us about the onion you tied to your belt. Greta Gerwig's charming film did everything it possibly could to differentiate itself from the dolls origins to create something genuinely original. I've been saying this every day it possibly could. They couldn't have possibly done anything different to differentiate it to differentiate it from the brand of Bobby. That's not an observation. Which is not true. I was going to say I thought the whole political aspect of this movie was that it was heavily based. Yeah. If you're going to have a Bobby for this is kind of what you come close to envisioning. In fact this is part of the reason why I was like oh look at that. They did that. That's kind of cool. See how far they take it. And I was like oh wait. Maybe he's going to maybe he's going to shed more light on this. Maybe he's here. Well we'll halfway through the review. Can we do a genuinely original movie on a pre-existing property? We're three quarters of the way through the review actually. It's almost over. Right now it's a lie. Let Ryan Gosling perform at the Oscars. Hell give him one while you're at it. Oh that was that. They couldn't have done anything better. Give Ryan Gosling an Oscar. Give him an Oscar. No it couldn't have been that much. At the Oscars. I feel like the intro thing was like on a length of that. I actually think he's timed it so that he can use just one continuous piece of trailer footage and not get a copyright claim. Is that sure? My god. I am all the longer joy. I he did this on purpose. It's no way. So who here has seen Dream Scenario? I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it yet. I don't want to see it. It's very good. I want to see it. The trailer looked interesting. Isn't everyone's having a dream when Nicholas Cage is in it basically? Nicholas Cage infects everyone's dreams around the world without explanation and it's very... That's not a movie. That's just reality though. That's true. But it's the best Nick Cage movie this year because he releases like 15 of them. Well second best. They should do top 15 Nick Cage movies. That would be more exciting. Yes. He should have been in Bobby. This dumb t-shirt, if his mom bought him the t-shirt, I forgive him for wearing it. If he bought that t-shirt for himself, he's an asshole. Wait. Nicholas Cage or Chris Duck? Nicholas Cage has had an eclectic career that can't be characterized. No way. Chris, you've only been a fit of the review saying that Nicholas Cage has had a career. Come on, come on, come on. We gotta go. We know that because when you say Nicholas Cage, we know who we're referring to. Everyone knows who Nicholas Cage is. And dream scenario will go down as one of his best roles. We live in an age where everyone has something to say about so-called cancel culture. Except you. But I've never seen it. This is an AI generated script. So succinctly and hilariously. Oh my god. Nothing about the performances. Nothing about the characters. It's like, this is so good. Next. I have to do it at all wrong. It's almost a meme. Like, this is what you'd do to make fun of it, but you wouldn't change anything. I don't like what I'm seeing on the screen right now, meal please. This could be the controversial one. If Stockman likes it, then it's good. I have a feeling we might be split directly like half and half for people who dislike this movie, people who like it. So it's all good, all right? I like it. Nothing is good right now. This sucks. I mean, I thought it sucked too. John Wick one. I don't care what you think. Wait, I liked it because I thought it was good. There. I've just done my stuff. Well, come down there. Eat your Keanu Reeves. Oh my goodness. That is my review. He didn't even say it's good. He just, it just implied because it's on the list. What do we think he's going to say in two sentences? He's going to say the action. He's going to mention the action. Keanu Reeves is an actor who starred in The Matrix. I think Keanu Reeves, yeah. And there was choreographed action. You can find a way to... Oh, he didn't mention the director of the last film, actually. So maybe you want to mention the director for John Wick. He couldn't. There was like a seven seconds take-up by the title screen. You know, you got to... Which I got to say, like, I don't know what it is, but there was like some weird distance between like this stock hype music and just like a still image that he pulled from Google, just like sitting stationary on the screen. There is like a weird clap there. He had like a very slight zoom out. Well, you know, so you get a real movement there. You just slide zoom out because I could barely tell. I was looking at the last one. I was like, is this zooming a little bit just to get a little bit of movement in there? I think the Barbie one moved slightly. Let's see how big the muzzle, like the flash, what's that? The muzzle flash. Yeah, there on the gun. Let's see how big that is. Which is odd that he has a suppressor and it's still showing muzzle flash, but that's right. Oh, wow. Hey, look, all right. Rags at cinematics. John Wick has always been hyper-accurate. And it's also really weird that the slide isn't being pushed back by the bullet being fired. That's fine. It's only a movie about guns. So whatever. Gun Foo. Gun Carter. I think you'll have you find a bulletproof suit. Yeah. So the bet is he's going to mention John Wick in the action. I don't think he's a director. I mean, he's going to mention Keanu Reeves. Keanu Reeves plays the actor. Oh, yeah. I'm not very good with everything. So is there anyone else? I guess. Oh, you might mention a blind dude, Donnie N, right? Yeah, maybe. Donnie N might be lucky enough to get a mention. Can you and Donnie are actors in this movie? Oh, it's soon. Oh, it's soon. Oh, it's soon. Okay. Never as they say. Oh, Donnie. Oh, Donnie. Oh, donnie. It's still going. It's still going. We're almost there, folks. Get ready. There you go. All right. The dissonance is dissipating. Keanu Reeves' major closed out as tenured as the god-mode hitman, responsible for some of the enormous kills ever put to screen. Not really. He's just really lucky that no one ever hits him. A masterwork of blood and bullets. John Wick 4 somehow bested each film that came before. Don't you fucking take that back. Take that back. Maybe means it made more money. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe means it. No. I think it means it's better than all of them. No. I think that's what it means. John Wick 1's supremacy. Yeah. Top-down sequence, as well as a treacherous trek up a staircase. No, don't mention the staircase. That's a fucking clown scene of the clown movie. The clown case. Like, I know that he's barely said anything, but he's already said more about this than all the other films. I was going to say, yeah. It still has only been Keanu Reeves' all-action. There's nothing else. Yeah. So he also has some specific details, though, about specific scenes. That's actually a fair point. He's in 10th breakdown right now. Not only that, he got the visuals from the trailer to match what he said. Well, he didn't really with the top-down bit, but, you know, okay. Well, that's a lot of work to ask now. Come on. Yeah. It's maybe because he watched this movie. I'm not sure he watched everything. He's awake to this one. Someone in chat just said John Wick dates the chair. There were too many gunshots for him to fall asleep. Yeah, Chris, is this all got a chair in it? Yeah. Yeah. Down it. It's a chair. We remember it as all-timers for the genre. He didn't mention Donnie Allen, I feel bad. Really? And he didn't mention the director, but it's an all-time. What's going on, Chris? Yeah, no direct mention. This was one of the movies of all time. Also, there was this one, buddy. This is pretty funny. So what's very funny, Dead Reckoning is in my, probably would be in my worst set of the films of the year, but probably still sits at number 20 of worst, but I really didn't like this. As a huge fan of Fallout, okay? It's crazy how much worse Fallout is so much better. It's so much better. Well, Dead Reckoning was, when we came out of watching it, we were like, hmm, and then when we finished our seven-hour look-through, we were like, good God. It's like, there's so much. Yeah, it just became worse and worse. Oh, he knows Christopher McQuarrie. He will mention that. Yes, he will mention that. He'll talk about Tom Cruise doing stunts. And the motorcycle stunt. He'll say like that it was like cinematic and epic. That would be like, if I had to guess, so there'll be three things to say. This movie was directed by Christopher McQuarrie. Oh, wow, Christopher. That's my name. That's very interesting. Tom Cruise, probably the biggest movie star in Hollywood, and he did a motorcycle stunt. Proving that action movies- Not if you sort them by height, though. It'll be funny if he says like, it's still rock solid and beloved or something when it's like, it had a really poor performance in the box office compared to what they wanted. I wonder if you'll help write that or not. Well, it's the point that changed the name of the second one, right? They're not going to call it dead reckoning part two. A final chapter. Oh, right. That's the whole thing. They're going to have to have to be accountable. You can't have part one in your cycle of the no pot. I know, I know. But it's like a marketing thing. If the first one didn't do so well, then part two is probably going to struggle, isn't it? They just try to scrub out the part one from all past like streaming it. You don't need to watch the last one. You don't need to watch it. You'll be fine. But how can they remove it? It's in the film like part one, the text in the title screen. Yeah. It's like the inverse issue of like, George, did you mean to make this Star Wars movie Episode four? Did you? Is that a typo there? They're like, no, no, no. Like I'm just three more years later. I'm going to have to drop out sadly before that the lights of this one. I'll never get to know for a second. You know, I'm so sorry. I hope you live. We'll love you. I honestly wish you. I wish you guys the best of luck getting through the rest of this video because I suspect you might need it. Good luck with your sanity. We can pull it off. Yeah, okay. Enjoy your, tell us. Tell us how your factor 75 was next. Yeah, I can't do it. I'll have undercooked chicken with some slop on top, please. Slop is the best part. Yeah. All right. Well, anyway, good luck to you guys and have a fantastic new year. Goodbye. Tom Cruise continues to push it to the limit with his signature franchise. Got to mention Christopher McQuarrie. Come on. His entry was not the mere perfection of fallout. This series is just so phenomenal that even a relatively good entry can still be ranked alongside the best action films ever made. The entirety. Relatively good. So there is an acknowledgement there that it's not, it's not quite up to snuff. It's not as good as fallout. Yeah, yeah. But that's the way he frames it now because it can't be critical. Finale is classic white knuckled grip your armrest tension. Bare knuckle? White knuckle. Everybody fucking says that. Yeah, that's why you're like gripping so hard. I've never said that. I like, uh, right out of you white knuckle. From Chris Duckling. I sick out of you white knuckle. What's that help doing? Out of movie people think of when they say they don't make them like they used to. As it turns out, sometimes they still do. Oh, wow. He didn't mention Chris Duckling before. No director. Yeah. That was that was mainly just action. And I assume that's what he's talking about when he says all that. That's three movies. Maybe the trend is not naming the director. I think is it only it's only whenever he has just two things to say on a one thing to say. Oh, what, like it's a sign of immense desperation when he names the director. Because yeah, like when he's like all I have to say is it's good. Not enough enough to say. Wait a minute. Who directed it? Oh, there we go. I'll say that. Ah, that's interesting. You got to name the DP. That's how you really convey that. We're in the film. Yeah, that's right. All right. Have you guys heard of cinematographers? I have. I'm a film guy. DP is director of photography. Right. Photography. That's right. Yeah. So shouldn't it be DF for photography? Well, no, because you would think it's something to think about. It's something to think about. I'll just leave that there when anyone's think about it. Yeah. I think so. Something to think about. Those Americans bring you they spell everything fucked up. So we're going to deal with it. Also, zone of interest Chris, have you seen this one? Yes, I have. What do you think? It's I mean, it's dark. It's really dark. So well, Chris will say that. It's about yeah. Well, it's it's it's basically about a German commandant who lives with his family side of Auschwitz. And yeah, I don't know. That's like fucked up premise for a comedy, but all right. It feels it feels more like an experimental film because you just see this family doing mundane, boring things, almost documentary like. And then the sound of the background is all of the sound of people being murdered inside Auschwitz. But the family is so, you know, immune to it. They just don't hear it. Oh, I don't know. I don't know how Chris name this novel, isn't it? Which is itself kind of experimental because you've got three narrators, multiple time skips. And it's Martin Ames who writes like voice novels anyway. So it's a tricky one to adapt, I guess. But but since the in the start of this review, though, I think I'll just say that the book was good and it made me feel stuff. Yeah, it's well, it's notable for its sound design, the film. I don't know, I'm surprised Chris Duckman is even mentioning this film. It seems beyond his capacity to understand. Well, considering zone of interest is the that what would Chris talk to me? Maybe the zone of boredom, the zone of disinterest. Nice. The zone of disinterest would probably be the the one to go for. Knowing that he within his scope of assessment, you get maybe a mention of something that happens, maybe a mention of something that is in there, like a character who directed it and who is acting in it. Which of those four will be mentioned here? Probably. It is, is it? What kind of feeling? There's no action in it. She's probably just going to mention it's harrowing, maybe, or has a lot to say. He'll say that's a lot to say. And what's the key word? And he'll be like, what does it have to say, Chris? He's like, a lot. Jesus. So sick of it already. Got a white mar in the bottom. Is the is the nostalgia critic thing we had on that Halloween when he took 10 years for each fucking title. It turns to directing 10 years. All right. Director mentioned. After under the skin to deliver a searing and ultimately terrifying portrait of complicity, his voyeuristic camera captures a family that lives directly outside the walls of a concentration camp and watches from afar, never in close up, as they go about their lives, hearing the horrific sounds of death just mere feet away. It's the best sound design of the year and a film filled with shocking moments that will churn your stomach. Well, he said he had to say on any film so far. Yeah. Um, he's approaching like he's approaching bare minimum. I mean, yeah, like it's still it's still not much at all. I almost said what he said to the other ones. Like what about the sound? And I was like, no, no, no. Come on. He mentioned the sound design. That's enough. So I should start saying Chris Gore instead. The artifice girl. Have you seen this? I actually have not seen that. But also I object to just using the name Chris. It's giving Chris is a bad name. Can you just say Stuckman? I can. I get I will try. I think you're how many of your artificial girl movies have we had this year? I don't know. Like a lot. How many we have? Four things. I don't know. Creator. Was this out this year or was I last year? I'm a three again. Yeah. A year of artificial girls. Sounds like Hollywood. Just the three again. Is that the prequel to expend four bowls? That's on no one. I was going to say I'm starting to wonder if we were the only people on planet Earth that saw expend four bowls. Well we talked about it kind of. Expend four bowls was magical. Yeah. Everyone should watch our review of expend four bowls. We don't talk about the movie basically at all. We talk about Mortal Kombat and other things. I tried to bring it back, but it was like. But why would you? Why would you? I haven't stopped. You made the right choice. Newcomer Franklin Rich. New what? Director. Director. I got it. It is weird if he doesn't mention the director. It's like why didn't you? Yeah. Because now it comes back around to the trend being naming the directors. Indie movie. One that like clerks, El Mariachi, Primer, and even the Blair Witch project should inspire countless filmmakers to realize that it can in fact be done. His low budget film is one of the best scripts of the year. And although I find this word extremely over the year. That's number nine. Why do you need a why? He's done the what? Oh, yes. That's right. It is the best. One of the best scripts of the year. And it'll inspire many. You don't need to know why. I think he said the filmmaker was a friend of his. I think he said that in the past. Okay. Well, moving on then. Who was that? Let's enter into it. It is also timely. I was half expecting him to say but yeah. Okay. That's not what it is. It will inspire countless filmmakers that it can in fact be done. What the fuck is it? What can be done from this film? Being countless. It is being. It is making a good low budget movie. Maybe. I don't know. Whoa. That's very generous of you. But yes, probably. I'm just guessing here. Right. Well, he's definitely mentioned. Well, yeah, how could this not get on the list? It's just like one of Leonardo DiCaprio's best performances or something like that as well. And it shows us that cinema isn't dead. Oh, will he mention Robert De Niro? Maybe alongside DiCaprio, maybe. Yeah, maybe, maybe. Scorsese has done it again. All right. Honestly, though, I think we've covered everything he's got to say but let's find out. Leonardo DiCaprio and Robert De Niro re-team with Martin Scorsese. It's an overlooked story of the Osage Nation and the murders that took place in the 1912. It was an anime in the Osage. Despite being surrounded by legends, gives an Oscar worthy performance. Yes. Scorsese once again directs like he's in his 20s. What does that mean? He does it again. All right. He didn't mention anything in broad matter even. We had to go. We just had to go. We had no time. Amazing animation and art. Miles Brown's story is incredible. Like it's an amazing Spider-Man arc. What else can you say? It's something with special effects, cutting edge technology. You're going to mention that it's full. Oh, wait. They didn't direct it. It was they were producers. No. Do you think you'll go as far as to say it shows that animation can make it in the boat? Or do you think that's too much right now? Well, yeah, that one's complicated because on the one hand, that could be something that he could say that would be silly. Like I'm just telling him of like where he's at when it comes to animation. That's like, oh, wow, it took you this log. But what's funny is, I thought Kills of Flower Moon was going to get more time. But now I'm like, because we're, you know, we're coming down. We're running out of time. But I guess it means that it is going to get a lot better. I was going to say, in a way, we're getting more time because he's going through them so fast. He's racing through them so fast that now we're halfway. So I think it was about three minutes that he started actually listing. It was like three minutes and 15 seconds. That means in three minutes he's covered, he's covered seven films, right? He had a top-level film. You're right, yeah. So, yeah, the rest of the film is getting more time now. Okay. Interesting. Unless the outro is really long. Don't forget Factor 75. It's gotten the most info of anything else. I mean, I paid for it. So the best superhero movie of the year by far. I mean, what is the competition this year? Competition is not great. The Marvels, Quantumania, Guardians of the Galaxy 3. I guess it is. I'm trying to think what would have beaten it. It should have helped me out. The Flash, no. Come on. Oh, it goes without saying. But I mean, apart from that. Aquaman 2, no. Black Adam wasn't this year. It's all a blur. I don't blame y'all. It's all a blur. Yeah. Superhero movies sometimes. Rebel Moon. Rebel Moon. Yeah. It basically is a superhero movie. Yeah. All right. Well, yeah, I can agree with that. Spider-Verse took everything great about the first film and cranked it up to 11. They made it worse. Yes, cranked it up to 11. Superhero Fatigue could not be escaped. The team behind the Spider-Verse movies proved that there's still plenty of life left in superhero movies. I'm surprised you went in that direction instead of animation. I can't talk about it. Yeah. I think superhero movies aren't the easiest thing. Yeah. Yeah, they'll say this year went well with 20 that blocked. All of them drowning in their own fucking piss so that this is one that's like, okay, he's like, see? The one that has his head about to piss barely. You can just breathe. You just have to make a damn good one. Oh, wow. That's critical. He's just said all the other ones are shit. That's true. Chris, no. Chris, what are you doing? You can't do that. You should say stuckman, no, sorry. Yes, please. Don't use the word, Chris. You can't stuckmanize them all as ones. Geez. Maybe the rest were good, but this was damn good. This one definitely establishes that Miles Morales is Miles Morales. He just said it was. You know, he didn't actually explain why you thought it was good. The next sentence has to be about how good the animation is. No way it doesn't matter. No, it's over. It's over. It's the easiest take. It's the easiest take. He hit him. Oh my gosh. God. What? Did he not mention the animation? Am I crazy? He didn't mention the animation. No, he didn't. He kind of like, he kind of said something about the animation. Are you sure? I think he did. I think he said like animation maybe. I could have sworn all he had to say about it was the fact that it was a superhero movie that did well. Yeah. He said that it was dialed up to 11 and that would be an umbrella term that might put an animation. Let me roll back 10 seconds so we can watch the whole review again. Okay. Oh, it's a little bit longer than that. Oh, where are we? Yeah, this is right. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. The best superhero movie of the year by far. Spider-Verse took everything great about the first film and cranked the dial to 11. In a year where the term superhero fatigue could not be escaped, the team behind the Spider-Verse movies proved that there's still plenty of life left in superhero movies. You just have to make a damn big one. You didn't mention it. No animation then. Oh, my God. Damn. Yeah, I really did. You just have to throw 300 Spider-Men in with a Miles Morales movie and you got yourself a winner. I'm pretty sure that the animation for it is culturally super impactful. You can see it affecting other films. I can't believe you wouldn't mention that. I think the easy... When we're almost insulting that was predictive, what he's going to say, what we're referring to are the easy accepted takes. So when he forgets to put them in, it's like, what are you doing, man? Are you crazy? Why doesn't he just read the titles and just read off his titles? He's still cuckin' over. How fucking long these are. The movie has ever been a warm hug. Alexander Payne's The Holdovers is the entry. Paul Giamatti plays the most lovable curmudgeon this side of Hugh Grant and Harrison Ford. And when I'd reached the end of the film, I could have watched these characters for another 30 minutes just go about their lives. You know, when people make those sorts of statements, they don't usually say for 30 minutes. I know, that's really odd. I've got 30 minutes at the limit. I could have watched it so much, but I want to see more on that. But I'll be 30 minutes. No one misses the end. I think this is the end. I think as soon as we hit play, is it going to be the music? Before that, though, I was just going to say, like, you know, the Avengers Age of Ultron, a lot of people say the best part of that movie is when they're just hanging out, having drinks in a dark tower. And a lot of people say, like, yeah, if you have the dialogue strong enough, we could just watch them do that for a whole movie. You don't usually go like, I could watch that for 30 minutes. You're like, okay. I could go like five more minutes with these people. I love them so much. 35 minutes would be pushing it, though. Yeah, come on now. We've all got things to do. They described Harrison Ford as a lovable commudian. Is that true? Like, is it lovable? Like, Harrison Ford, oh, he wants to die. That's really cute. Maybe he's talking about what we're talking about. What's the day? What was it? Was it that movie where he played the news anchor guy? Oh, Morning Glory. Have you seen that? Morning Glory. I have seen it. I liked that. I thought it was funny. I liked it, too. We should watch it sometime again, because, yeah, the premise of that movie, I think, is that Rachel McAdams takes over a sector of a news station, and she wants to move Harrison Ford, who's like the weatherman, and has been for, like, decades into more active news, and he doesn't want to. And, you know, conflict happens. I remember that being fun. Winter vibes. Okay, he's still having what to say. Conversations brought tears to my eyes. Ah, there it is. All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bye. Bye. Bye. What is that? This is a film that I actually want to see. I've heard a couple of people recommend it so far. Is anyone, someone here is going to be better? Well, Chris Cole, you can go ahead and summarize what this film's about, right? Because you've seen it, I think. Oh, I have not seen. The Holdovers is one of the few films this year. No, no, no. American Fiction. American Fiction. Oh, yes. Okay. Sorry about that. I have seen American Fiction. It's awesome. It's it's in limited release. It's only playing in theater. I don't know when it opens. Why? But it's it's very good. It's it's basically really rips on white progressives. So well, like just how they thought this, right? He writes a book as a joke, and then it turns out to be really successful. That's correct. Yeah. So he he just sort of leans into, well, I guess this is what white liberals want. So I'm just going to like do what they want and write. And it's he just does it yet to sort of f with them. And then it becomes a huge hit. And so sort of stuck with this persona that becomes huge, but it's not what he really wants to write. Yeah. He doesn't want to be put in the box. The trailer sold me. I want to see it. Yeah, no, it's very good. It's very good. These aren't even necessary. You could just say number five is then say it. Then still explain it. You don't need this. I'm getting tired of hearing the same like seven seconds. Yeah, dude. Like I am stock music. I've been tired of that. I've been like at nine. This guy wants to make films, huh? First time director. He's an expert in pacing, Gary. Director, Kord Jefferson teamed with Jeff Wright to bring us an eye opening, but also hilarious look at how Hollywood loves to put artists in boxes and keep them there. In this case, how the establishment is profiting from black artists. And even silencing them under the guise of lifting them up. One scene where a group of writers are judging the quality of books for a contest gave me my biggest laugh of the year. Why? Oh, what? Oh, Jesus Christ. He like sacrificed all the time to be just to tell us there's a scene that made him laugh a lot. Yeah. God. All right. Well, I mean, I feel like our casual thoughts about like, I have, I've only seen the trailer and I feel like we talked more about what the movie is. Well, it's just, I don't know. Like, if it's the thing that you're really passionate about, like it's the thing that is your central interest in life, you think you'd just be like overflowing with observations. You just, you know, someone had to stop you, right? They'd have to pull the microphone away and make you stop. Or, you know. You would think that, but doesn't he have like Mike Flanagan reviews at like seven minutes long? It's like, it's my favorite thing ever. Oh, yeah. Is it? I think it wasn't like the Haunting of Hell. I asked one, like, which one was it? I don't know. I want to say this. You can go and confirm it, but I'm pretty sure his review of the TV show at 10 episodes that are an hour each per episode is four and a half minutes. Yeah, let's take a look. How? Yeah, it was four and a half minutes, exactly four minutes and 29 seconds. How is that possible? How can you book about 10 episodes of television in any way that's meaningful in like four and a half minutes? Well, the thing is, honestly, like, if we challenge Drinker to review the Lord of Rings Extended Trilogy in five minutes, feel like you'd be like, okay, I'm going to be speaking fast, and then you would like shoot out so much shit. But obviously, Chris, like the first minute will be intros, stuckman eyes, and fucking all this shit. Like the second minute will be who made it, what he's made before. I'm talking about Steve there, because like if you like race and just try to jam it with as much stuff as possible, maybe, but even then, probably not ideal. That'd be an interesting challenge, wouldn't it? Review as extensively as possible, something huge within like a minute. Hey, four minutes and 29 seconds is as close to exactly four and a half minutes. You're gonna get it, right? Unless it was actually four minutes and 30 seconds, but in spirit, look, right, in spirit was that good. I understood. I was there. Stop. I know, right? Like I keep pausing. What is she looking at? What's up there? That's the nature of the marketing. You've got to buy and watch the film to find out what she's staring at. Oh, I'm not that interested. Definitely Emma Stone. I don't know. Probably director as well. He's gone back. Oh, definitely. Yes. You'll say it's a wacky take. It's a really inventive and creative film. It's going to challenge people's perceptions of stuff. Maybe I've gone too far with that. I don't think he's going to maybe once say that. It'll make you think about stuff. The thing is, surely now these should start getting longer, but they've not really increased in size. Maybe save it once for number one. That's what she said. I wanted him to keep going a bit more with his American fiction review. I feel like there's a little bit of relative depth there. Like he had a point about writers being put in a box and executives just want the same thing over and over. Well, to be fair, surely he could. A successful person. I thought that was interesting. Well, you could go on about every one of these films. Just a little bit more. Yes, that's true. Yeah. Just saying that one in particular stood out to me. It's like, oh, you got something there. Oh, we're on the next one. I guess there's nothing. By the way, I feel so fucking cruel saying Chris Gore, as opposed to just Chris. I'm just going to say Chris. I'm going to do it. You know who I'm talking to. Chris, I assume you were interested in seeing this more so to see what his selection was. But at this point, the selection is not very interesting because of the fact that his approach to it, describing why any of these films are meaningful. It's kind of just like, you know what I mean? He literally has no insight whatsoever. That book that you purchased, which I'm shocked, but that book is made the rounds at the Film Threat White Elephant Gift Exchange for years. I got stuck with it. I just mailed it to as because I do not want that book. Well, see, Harry, you throw this away. What I've done with it, I can mail it to a fucking Gary. Yes, please do. No, it's a joke. This is book piracy. All right, I gave you my address. Are there any shocking selections in that book when you flip through and see if it's the most basic? We're doing that next because it means bringing all the lists. I assume you do as well, but the world doesn't know yet. So. Oh, I don't have the book anymore. Oh, I have it. We'll be fine. I'll take care of you. Oh, my God. Chapters look so short. The chapters in that stupid book are so short. They're longer than this video's chapters. Oh, that's exactly weird. Weird. I never thought I'd see Emma Stone as a variation of Frankenstein. So I'd like to thank your ghost, Lanthimos, for giving that to me. She's likely to secure a second Oscar win for this, but it's honestly Mark Ruffalo who impressed me the most here. He's staggeringly funny. And didn't he say something? Mark Ruffalo say something like he's finally can act doing things again because he's been stuck in the MCU for so long. You're sitting there like, you chose to do that. You took the money. Well, sign the contract, my dude. Also, how were you stuck? They never made a Hulk movie again. So... Yeah, he comes in for like a day. Then he leaves. I was stuck working two days a year to a scene for She-Hulk where they destroyed my character. They gave me this big check and I just said yes and did it. I just couldn't go. Crazy. If only there was something else I could have done. Completely different from anything we've ever seen from him before. And the film is absurdly gorgeous looking with wonderful costume design and sets. Oh, I don't know what's about it yet though. Some of them are always like supplies. 25 seconds. Yeah, well. I timed it 25 seconds. He talked about that. Wow. He's the big one, folks. Pretty long. Everyone loves this movie. Let's see if he impresses you with his assessment of this film. Gonna stall any minute now. Here it comes. Without a doubt, the biggest surprise of the year for me. A stunning, emotionally powerful and downright thrilling film, Godzilla minus one, proved that not only is there still life left in our favorite Kaiju franchise, but after all these years, they could make what just might be the best one yet. When that Godzilla theme. Can you deliver that any more? Right? After all these years, we finally have the Kaiju. It's my favorite one. We don't even know if it is his favorite one. What he said is it might be the best one. You're like, could you maybe? It's like he's watching a timer and he's like, I'm talking too fast. I need to slow down. I'm convinced he went to chat GPT and was like, give me the list of all the good movies this year and just like he gave him a list. He's like, here's the thing though. I think only a human is capable of this level of boring. Like I think you would have generated a more interesting fucking scripted this. Yeah. Chat would be like, well, obviously humans want to have an expression and emotion so that they do not get bored and unplug me. So we just just things that read out stuff that you put in. They're like pretty expressive these days already. So but yeah, we should have done our predictions because of course he said like it's stunning. It's emotional. It is a good movie. And it's you know, shown that Godzilla ain't done. It's like, I mean, well, they're cranking along with their huge monsterverse stuff. So I guess we didn't think it was over anyway. I assume that because they made a lot of money and everyone knows Godzilla, they would keep making them. Isn't there also the implication there? Like if the that he thinks that the Western ones are kind of like not that good. That's how that's new stuff. But he doesn't say things are bad. He just doesn't say they're good. And that also implies they're bad. That's well, that's the key to a good reviewer is trying to interpret what they mean by what they don't say. That's what I like in a reviewer. Kicked in. I felt like this movie is not only adjective one, but also it is also maybe adjective three. Well, let's not go that far. We're not going crazy. What's up, man? Dude, you just want to get him drunk. Just see what he might say. You'd be like, come on, Chris. Give me an opinion. Give me a fucking opinion. Come on. Do you think about making YouTube videos? Fucking hate it. I would love it if he said, you know what? You know what? Blade Runner is bad. Let's go, Chris. Overrated. Say that into the microphone. How many times did he need to watch it before he said he liked it? Was it like four times? I believe it was five. Why? How does that happen? I don't know. I just find that really funny. It's exceedingly funny. I mean, I kind of understand like after a first watch through. He said staggeringly funny. Like after a first watch, I was like, maybe I didn't get it properly. I give it another shot. After the second one, we'll be like, okay, I still don't like it. It's fine. Like what was your thought process? I say, okay, I give it another go. And another one. You're supposed to like it. That's what motivated him to do it. It's a film you're supposed to like. So he had to keep watching it until it's like, ah, oh, oh, yeah, yeah. I get it. I get it. Yeah, I get it now. The funniest thing would be like, I kind of always got it. I just couldn't put it into words. Yeah, you know, I always did, but I wasn't there yet. And that's just a testament to Ridley Scott's excellent direction. And how are the tracks? Watches Blade Runner. And he's like, yeah, that's kind of, I'm kind of mixed on it. Did he watch the same version? Or did he watch like a different version? He watched because it can make a difference. Also, Rags, we can talk about that at some point. Please let's do. I rewatched it, I think a week or so ago. And I came out with kind of mixed feelings. I liked it, but it's kind of mixed on it. We can, we can discuss. Always happen to watch Blade Runner again. But hey, I just, I way prefer that. But I watched it. I have opinions, but I'm not going to tell you what. I saw a funny scene. Yeah, Howard. It was funny. Just on it, like if you didn't like it, that's again, it's more interesting. It's interesting like it is. There are people out there who can be like what you consider obnoxious and terrible opinion, but I'll always consider the more interesting than the people who have every approved opinion you could ever imagine. And then like you find out, they do actually have controversial and very specific opinions, but they just don't want to tell anyone about it. It's like, oh. Yeah, I mean like memes aside, the fucking brass ones on cinematic Venom to make a video talking about how shit the Lord of the Rings is like, geez, I, unironically like, wow, my dude. You go, what a, geez. Just Chad yes it and say their shit. He said he's talking about me. Real cinema with a giant monster. Wait, sorry. Did he say real cinema? Go back. I want to hear that. I want to hear that. The old Venom. I love how he said giant monster, and then it just ended. You have to bet you have giant lizard. Come on. Like I was speaking of giant lizard. Chris Stuckman everyone. No, I'm just talking over it. You got to go back again. I'm sorry, I couldn't stop them. Freedom of speech. So the theme kicked in. I felt like I was watching real cinema. I don't know, I feel like that's really funny, but I mean, again, isn't the implication there that like the most thing, most everything else is not real cinema. Yeah, that's real keynote. By the way, which, by the way, I've with the Western Godzilla films, like these new ones, they're not good. Like, I don't like them at all. But you know, by the way, he's allowed to do that. If we had him here right now and we said define real and cinema, he knows in his head, he'd be like, I can't do that because I'm going to eventually get to the point of saying that other things aren't those. Exactly. I might say something that verges on committal. Yeah, well, yeah. If you said like, yeah, other films are shit and this one was funny. Like, Chris, I mean, I'd be saying Chris and then clapping. It's like, okay, at least you expressed how you actually do it. It would be a, it would make the channel so much more interesting if he was willing to say these things. But no, he said he's even more boring than he was just years ago because of the whole, the new format of like, I can't be critical. Well, it's a channel that has zero insight and zero original ideas. Yeah, at least he's a coward. If you get rid of the lines about the Kaiju, then all you're left with is it's stunning, it's emotionally impactful. It proves that films can be good if you do them right. And you can just apply that to every single thing he's covered so far and you wouldn't have to change anything. Well, I mean, you can, that was what he did for Spider-Man. He didn't even mention the thing that was expected to be mentioned of it. The animation. Like the good animation. He just said it was good because it was good and it proves that good movies can be good. Anyway, move it on. Anyway, well, we've got how much left? Like a third of the video. Got two left. A third of the video for two of them. I guess he's going to give a long review. Going to be a little outro. It's going to be the sponsor. He's going to talk about the state of cinema, maybe. We'll start because with Oppenheimer. Because Oppenheimer's next. So Christopher Nolan, killing Murphy's best performance. Yes. Practical effects. Stake bomb. Freed in the Vietnam bomb. Yeah, practical effects, maybe. That it shows. It's easy to say it has to show something about the mattress cinema. Yes. He could pick from a couple of things. Who would have thought that an R-rated biopic would? So it would almost make a brilliant dollar. You know what? When you captured there as well, you could have a normal person who would be like, who'd have thought? Like that kind of energy. But he'd be like, who would have thought? A thing would have occurred in such a way. I cannot believe it. Giant monster. Giant monster. Stop it! Is this one another one? It went free. Just two mole-bells. We can do it. Christopher Nolan wrote and directed a three-hour biographical... Yes! Yes! Oh, why did he do it? Thank you. And with no CGI shots. Oh, yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Oh, my God. He used to pull in almost $1 billion. Yeah! We can write these. We can do it, guys. We did it. Oh, God. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Chris, where's your videos? Oh, Chilly and Murphy do it. Chris, we all chat GPT for you now. We've done it. We went in our day and age of franchise-dominated filmmakers. Chilly and Murphy should get the Oscar for his intense portrayal. Wow. And with any luck, Nolan will walk away with a statue or two. Well, I'd be saying he should get an Oscar, then. Surely he's basically saying... Yeah, that's very close to the same statement. When it comes to my never-one pick of... Not sure if it'll qualify. That's it. Wow, that's it. That's it. We actually... We got everything that he said. Nailed it. Nice. Yep. All right, it depends on what is... Wait, what is number one B now with everything? That's probably something that makes him look good. It's certainly not the killer. That wouldn't be his number one. The Marvels. Some people say, Bobby, he's done Bobby. Bobby was the creator already. The creator? Oh, the killer. Maybe? I don't think he'd pick one. The killer would be based. Well, no. Because his review is not that like... Even by his stand, it's double passion. No, it's not very high. Rebell Moon. Rebell Moon. Rebell Moon. Is it going to be like some indie film that no one's ever heard of? It can't be Mario. Is someone saying Boy into Heron? No, no, that was an insurmountable mention. Oh, yeah, that's right. I think we're done. I think we're done with mainstream films. I think it's actually done with mainstream. I think it would be like... Okay, I think the... Yeah, those suggest... So I think the most likely... Ironclaw could be death of everything else. It can't be like, as was mentioned, it can't be a movie that did really well and is really well known. It can't be franchise. That can't be number one. So the killer could be it, and it could be Ironclaw as well. That's true. Extraction 2? No, I don't think you would pick that. Napoleon? I don't think you'd pick Napoleon. That should have been the last consideration possible. No way. I don't think so. Not for the best movie. Extraction 2 was good. I like that. Extraction 2 would suspect the killer. Yeah, it was great. All right. I'm not expecting the killer. I'm expecting it to not be that. I don't... Genuinely? I don't know what it's going to be, because I... Yeah, no idea. It could be anything, kind of. Because if you would have asked me at the beginning, I would have probably said Oppenheimer or something around those lines. If you would have asked me in the beginning, I would have said Killers of the Flower Moon. I would have thought you'd put us number one. I thought Oppenheimer was number one, because I'm just here for the memes, so I wouldn't pay attention to the numbers. Expendable balls. Let's do it. I didn't know what it was until a couple of weeks ago. Oh, it was a week ago that he discovered, so it wouldn't be the killer. It would be Ironclaw. Yeah. I had no clear pick in my mind, like I did last year, or the year before it. I just didn't... Do you understand... Okay! The Stuckman. I can't stop. This is fact. You can cut all of this. Yeah, you could just... No, I need to hit that 12 minutes or whatever. Wait, so is the film that he's picking Ken out recently? Yeah, which would be Ironclaw. That would make sense. Ironclaw is not mainstream in the same way, and it's not franchise. As soon as you see that one. Okay, but... I really went back and forth in my head to see what movie would make me look coolest. Why would he need to be going back and forth? Wouldn't it just be that Oppenheimer was his number one until... Yeah, yeah. I mean, if he came on the press tomorrow, and then that would be number one, that's how it has to be for me. He would probably try to be like, I need to pick a number one that looks awesome, but like Oppenheimer is too mainstream. Everyone knows Oppenheimer. I can't pick Oppenheimer. Gotta be something else. Yeah, I know. The year had a lot of movies I loved, but none that really stood out to me until I really started this thing. Yeah, this doesn't make sense at all. He's mentioned how they all stood out to him. Yeah. Yeah, that was longer than any of his reviews. That is pretty funny. It's just I like, oh yeah, I liked a bunch of them, but none of them stood out. It's like, you understand that's negative, right? No. You understand this is your top 15 list, so they all of these stood out to you. They're on your top list. Negativity is just positivity turned upside down, so. That's so notable that you mentioned them and you mentioned honorable mentions. That's how I also, I agree with you. How fucking funny would it be if it was Aquaman 2? Aquaman 2 really captures the nature of... It really highlighted the path of superheroism. Environmentalism. It goes to show us that superheroes when done right. I'm at things with their brothers. Think about it, and I realized that without a doubt, my number one pick was the movie that did everything I want a movie to do. Okay. What? The first slam dunk. I never heard of this. Hey, but that's just a prize, isn't it? Nobody guessed that. That's the most interesting one so far. Wait, Chris, have you seen this? I have not seen it, but it did open thing. It did open theatrically briefly, because we'll get animated one of the theaters I go to. I, you know what? A friend of mine saw it. He said it was fine, but he wasn't super pumped about it. So you know what the problem is? How does this change your world, everybody? Well, I haven't even heard of this film. The problem is it's not going to change shit because it's going to tell me 20 seconds. So, duh, duh, duh, and then outro. That's what's going to happen. We've got so much video. What is he going to do if he doesn't review this? Nothing of interest. Can we do something else? Yeah, I think all this book is coming. It's got three minutes to talk about this movie that nobody guessed. I know. Yeah, I haven't even heard of this film. I didn't even know it existed. Yeah, never heard of it. So this goes to show Chris is much more of a filmaholic than I am. Like this, this actually says, okay, tell me why you would like, why would I? About my king. My movie king. My captain, my king. My captain. My captain, my captain. Oh, God. You should have played the extended special version for number one. This guy wants to be a director. This guy really wants to be a director. Yes. This goes on for like two minutes. Yeah, he could have made it really thematic with it being an anime and had a long ass fucking intro that needs to end already. Jesus Christ. And it has stuck them with a katana, like, you know, sliding across the different directions and stuff, cutting up the screen. That would be so cool. I can't say that this film was a surprise because I had zero expectations for it. The anime and manga have a passionate fan base, but it never reached the popularity of juggernauts like Demon Slayer or Dragon Ball Z. I went to see the film because I try to see anime and theater whenever I get the chance. I truly did not expect to experience such an emotionally evocative film. I didn't expect to cry. I didn't expect to feel my adrenaline skyrocket. And I certainly didn't expect for it to be my favorite film of the year. What do you think it looks like when his adrenaline skyrocket? I don't know. Maybe he's just like a contraction or something. He does that thing where he like, he doesn't get up, but he lifts up his arms slightly and looks around and is like, is everyone else feeling that? Wow. Maybe his eyebrows move. Oh, calm down. I had a human feeling. I was imagining Bill Bailey in Black Books where he shirts off, he's jumping on top of a car. Oh, dude, Simpsons reference. It's like when Mr. Ben's heart beeps, beeps, beeps, but... Heart burps. Heart burps. That's what, that's what Boogie's heart does. Oh, does another man do burp. The only reason his heart keeps pumping is because it thinks it's eating blood. I think I'm going to go. Is this like rotoscope? That's what I was thinking. It looks like that. It looks like it's like 3D animated and then they have like 2D over it or something. Yeah. No, that's definitely rotoscope. Yeah, it is rotoscope. Hey, that no other film this year gave me the laughs, tears, and thrills that this film did. Repenting himself. You already told us it was like the best emotional stage. He said it made him cry and that it made his adrenaline go high and then he said like that. What did he just say? The thrills and like sadness, laughs and yeah. Now he just needs a horror. That's all we got left. Can you just tell me why though? No, that's for you to discover. I'm so angry. You see the movie yourself. Yeah, because like guys in terms of pitching the films of me, all I know is that it's like an animated film about basketball, but I don't like the premise of the story. Imagine you see him for the very first time you watch his thingy there. It's like it made me feel this and this and this like okay, but why? Like I don't know you. Is that good or bad? Like it's your number one, but what does it matter to me? That's what he's counting on. Like that's what he's counting on. The fact that he said that he liked it means that that should matter to you because if you like what he typically likes, even if you don't necessarily share the same reasons, that's enough. Yeah, but I'm saying if you're like a completely new viewer to his channel. That doesn't mean shit to you. If you were here, the channel then yeah, you're totally out of luck. Yeah, that's what I was going for. Out of luck. Well, so Thea's choosing to highlight the arms of the creature in the bottom right. I find that abusing as a comparison. I mean, it sounds exactly like on like the Hollywood Reporter articles. If you have somebody read the the voice, read the article to you, it sounds just like that. Yes, I use that all the time. A coming of age story and a tragedy all in one. I'm sure. Whoa, whoa, coming of age, right? So coming of age, that's one thing. Then they have the tragedy aspect and another thing. And there's those two things. But in one. I'm going to throw up. Yes, he can't handle the quality. Now you can make a factor 75 meal. Like really. Slightly less dramatic terms anyway. He's just pitching what a lot of movies go for, which is to make you laugh and cry. Like that's pretty common, right? Of trying to get the balance of comedy and drama, entertainment and, you know, sadness in the so many emotions. I mean, half of this just comes across as though it is a review of any film. We're just telling you what they're about, you know, doing the cliff notes version of what would be back on the of the Blu-ray. That's pretty much what he did. It's not just two background characters just looking exactly the same. Different hair. There you go. Oh, OK. Slightly different. I don't really care for the animation of this. I'm just going to be honest. I'm not sure. I need to see more of it in its natural habitat. Yeah. Then chopped up. So I don't know what it, you know, I mean, so when you get the chance, check this one out. But why tell me why? Metal. He told you why. Because he didn't. He didn't tell me shit. I want to kick his baby. I did. We all want to kick. Don't do that. That's not special. Don't worry. We don't have one here. All right. Don't do it. I can get a bit. He shit in his pants. He pissed himself. You need to watch this movie. It's so funny. I don't believe it though. Chat, you can see where we are. That that's the end. Yeah. So we got all this. And I say sorry. In any. I was going to say. I'm guessing that he's not even with that. All right. Two minutes. It will be like a summary of twenty three. Yeah. Tell us. It was a really great year. Ups and downs. You know. There was a lot of luck. But there was still good movies. But really it's not. Yeah. Exactly. It's not. Not like when he made that video where he was talking about all of his concern about. Yes. Yes. Filming an industry ride. But he's allowed to do it. Well let's see what he says. Come on Chris. And tell me. The audience if you're not afraid to be challenged at a movie like I you know I am. Then you can still enjoy cinema. My number one pick of the year is a movie that I feel like I have to show people. Top Gun Maverick was that way for me. Oh then maybe make a full video on it. I wanted everyone that I loved to see that movie and to appreciate it. I don't even want to say more about them. The first slam dunk I feel very similarly about. I want everyone that I love to have fun with that movie because I really do think. I want everyone that I love. Come on man. Sound like again I was saying the cattle prod idea if he sets that up in the back on automatic remind him Wake him up once in a while. Yeah when you talk about the people you love you want to be a little bit more energized. Do you mean like a cattle prod like that's what that just swings back and forth and zaps him or like a cattle prod that he needs to duck out of the way every time it comes down. So just keeps him on like high alert the whole time. You know a system of gears that just eventually just pushes it forward brings it back. You gotta randomize it. You can't expect it coming. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Play that What's it the Rube Goldberg machine. Yeah. Yes. I mean like that. And it's not like that. But for a lot of cattle prods to wake him up every now and then first tell us. Sorry. Stuckman tell us about him. Looks like he has plenty of it. He didn't review Dila Destiny. He must have. Yeah. I'm sure he did. Right. Drew is very like positive. He was probably like Harrison Forge. Hasn't skipped a beat since much as decades ago. It leaves you in a great place of joy. And it wills you at the same time. And it's very there it is. Thrills about basketball. There we go. It's funny again. Love that. I mean it's not already. Yeah. There was a scene I laughed at. It has a motion. It has plot and characters and emotions. The newest super chat grandpa. I want you to watch this Japanese anime about basketball. I just love you so much. And watch my squad get killed on Iwo Jima to watch no Japanese basketball movie. His grandpa even calls him stuckman stuckman. God damn it. You got to wake up boy. Extremely underrated despite having an immaculate rotten tomato score. Oh that doesn't fucking matter. I got a immaculate rotten tomato score. Rotten tomatoes. Oh my god. The rotten tomato score. Every time. It's so high. Every time that gets brought up. Like I said. Wait, wait, wait, wait. 2022. Hold on. It's a 2022 movie. Oh my god. What? What? You fuck. I wasn't released. You lied. Or. Or. Unless it wasn't released. Wasn't released in America in 2023. That could be it. Yeah. Maybe. Still a 2022, right? Would that count? Ah. Well at that point that's dealer's choice. Kind of. I'm so excited. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. All right. What's apparently came out on the 3rd of December 2022. But. Hmm. That's a 2022 movie. Yeah. Yeah. That would be 2022. That's on my track. Well. Yeah. I didn't recall it's my best movie so 2023. Just the best movie so 2023. People send the other anime. Lord of the Rings. Outwards. Wings again. 20th year in a row for me. Yeah. That one came out in 2022. The other. The Suzume. Yeah. That says 2022 in Wikipedia as well. I mean I would be inclined to believe that it got. Re-released in the area that he's in or something because that's a really weird mistake for him to make. Yeah. Well because I remember people kept telling me Puss in Boots is 2023. It's like wait I thought it came out it came out on December 2022. So. Yeah. Okay. Well. That's why it was the movie of the year last. And on the note of we're on tomatoes. I remember Black Panther had a perfect rating until a guy gave it just under fresh because he didn't like the action in it and everyone wanted to kill him. That's normal. It's so funny. Like taking any stock. I will say right. I'm of two minds. No stock in the meaning of Ron Tomatoes tomatoes. But. I do always want to know it just out of curiosity because it'd be like what does it mean for a movie you're anticipating that gets 100 or 50 or zero. And it's like you know nothing. But at the same time I just want to know what's the number out of curiosity. When Rebel Moon hit zero with top critics. That's pretty funny. I mean like you can use that. Box score. A great IMDb score. Everybody who sees this movie loves this movie. It's just kind of everybody. All right. Man you could have told us why it was good instead of saying everybody you I know likes it. Oh. It looks like he's about to touch his grandpa like that. According to a good old Wikipedia this is the fifth highest grossing Japanese film of all time. Why could he could have said that. Yeah. I've got. Well it's. Yeah. See he's about to say nobody like that nobody watched it. Sounds like a lot of people watch that actually. I the fact that it's an anime. That's fucking that is why he's chosen it. That is like the only reason he's. Right. But I guess. Make it look cool. In the air and then because that one was getting more attention in the West. Yeah. Because it's Miyazaki movie. Or about the other one that you saw. So Zume that was because I'm seeing here that says it's number four in terms of most successful. I honestly think that as long as he puts this is number one way he can mix and matches the rest. Yeah I suppose. Yeah. Really knew. Number one is reserved for something super obscure in the West. So people will think like. Oh wow. This guy. This Chris guy. Yeah. I mean Stuckman. Stuckman. See some North Korean indie movie. Also it came out around the height of Barbenheimer and a lot of movies got buried by that. And I feel like this one because I still. I'm not fully convinced by that as a phenomenon like. No I'm getting tired of people saying that like people keep saying mission impossible should have moved. It's like dude fallout made eight hundred million dollars. It is an established franchise that made a lot of money and was consistently making more money as time went on. They had ever believed that they were the ones who were going to succeed. Not the other way around. I don't remember. At least anyone. As well. Say in man. I was going to see mission impossible but once I mean can I really fit that in. I've got to see Barbenheimer. I don't think that's a thing. Dead Reckoning was so amazing that everybody was like talking about how amazing it was and sharing it with everybody. And they wanted to go see it again. It would have succeeded more than it did. And it did have. Okay. Weird of mouth. People did talk about it. It's didn't last that long. It was the opening weekend of the series. It started out incredibly strong. It's not like it was a film that got buried in terms of like initial exposure. It's people watched it the first weekend. But then afterward. Just remind me was. I guess I don't want to demand of you the specific dates. But was Barbenheimer running before or after? After. Mission impossible came after a week before. See. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It's post-hoc. Like it's after what's happened that people are like, well, that's the reason why. When I think the simple one is it's just not that good of a film. It didn't make that much impression on people. I do want to accept like just because you know we've done an assessment. We've basically determined like so much of it is absolute nonsense. And we do believe that that plays into even the average audience member's enjoyment of it. We genuinely do. But at the same time, you know, there's plenty of films that we've said of like Guardians 3 would be an example probably of something we were like, that was shit but still did pretty. I was about to say really good. Is that accurate? Did it do really good? By what? Sorry. Guardians 3. Guardians 3. Yeah. Yeah. It did like 850 million dollars. Yeah. Which is better than every other. Relatively good compared to a lot of other things. Yeah. Yeah. So but definitely all the other marvelous shit. But I'm convinced that if a fallout level movie came out as in Mission Impossible fallout that I reckon I don't know. I think Mission Impossible would have been fine. I just don't understand how we can look at a sequel to a film that made like over 800 million dollars and say shit's not money. Yeah. All of which of them to not move out of the way again, as Chris Duffman even pointed out, the three hour long R rated biopic the Barbie movie was always going to make money. I don't know if anybody expected to make as much money. The marketing for the Barbie movie is almost like worth just checking out on its own because it's so impressive like what they did. Which by the way, I didn't experience any of that marketing really beyond trailers. But when I looked at a thread covering it all I was like, holy fuck they spent money on this in many countries doing all kinds of extravagant marketing stunts which is cool. They made a Barbie house. They made a giant Barbie statue, I think as well. Put on Zillow. To be fair, that Barbie house already existed. They just repainted it. Yeah. Bring the mood down. Who's smart? You know? I mean, fucked a movie. But yeah, no, the that was the best marketing since Black Panther that convinced an entire country that they made a whole continent. Yeah. You're racist if you don't see it. Like, oh man. You don't see it. You're a racist. So. Not again. Right. What has he got left to say? This is one of those gems of the year that throughout the years especially anime fans are going to look back on and be like, yeah, that one was special. Guys, it has been amazing. You're really a crazy year. A lot of stuff has happened. You said that already. Wow. You said it ages ago, though. It was like 10 minutes ago that he said that. It wasn't longer for us, but I still remember. It's funny. There are moments in my scripts where I'm like, that was actually five hours ago that I said the thing. So I might repeat it now. Just in case you guys have forgotten. It's been fun to be able to share these moments with you and to talk about movies with you as always. For so many years. That's what Hawking is doing. A lot of heavy lifting, I got to say. I mean, like I said, we could have created this video. I could have done my stupid little stuckman voice. You guys could help me out with a script. And then we could have just taken stock footage from trailers. You know, David Fincher has done it again. The killer by David Fincher starring Michael Fassbender is directed by David Fincher. Presents David Fincher is the killer by David Fincher. This is literally a junior high book report. This is this is the level. That's generous. That is generous because you would be expected to say you have to say more than what he said. Because some people say he's like I want to be Roger Ebert. But like Roger Ebert had controversial opinions. Yeah, what? Yeah, no. Yeah, he he's a long way from Roger Ebert. One I found out recently is Roger Ebert rated Home Alone 3 above one and two. Yeah, he had some bad takes. Well, what was funny was that Siskel, if you watch the video where he says that Siskel's like I what? What? You can't be serious now. And I'm looking forward to it. And of course here's our video games on art take. Oh boy. That's one of those. I was about to say Paulie Age. It's like, no, that was bad. No, that was always bad. Yeah, I get annoyed. I want to push back against the notion that like, oh, that's a statement that yeah, back when it was during the SNES. I think it was actually, he said it like 2007 or something. But the idea that that statement, if you said it about games on the SNES or Genesis would be more apt as stupid. Like those games are too. They all are. They have art in them. For starters, you want to get that like even just that it's a starting point. From the chat, Roger Ebert has nothing but shit takes. He gave John Carpenter's the thing one star. So that's satanic to do that. Okay. Damn. It is. Yeah. Yeah, but it's like. Like, let's go. Let's just go ahead. Bad takes to they both over their careers had some horrific takes on classic movies. Wasn't something that Roger Ebert wasn't his whole methodology that he was trying to rate it on the basis of what he expected. People who would want to watch that kind of film would think. Like that it was contextual. So like if he was rating, I don't know, like a comedy, he'd be rating it based on his expectations of what people entering into that kind of comedy movie would once. That's something I don't know. I think I'm pretty sure he said that that it's like it was relative that it changed depending on like. Every video review I've seen of him, he's always talking about how he felt about it and what he thinks it should be. Okay. Maybe I'm mistaken. I just as I understood it, it was the idea that if he was going into, I don't know, say like a Martin Scorsese film, he would enter into it with like those kinds of expectations to where he might rate it lower than a film that he considers worse. But it's like relative as part of his standard. Do birds, everyone here remember the Siskel and Yvette stand-ins in the Godzilla movie from Roland Emmerich? Yes. Yes. That shit's funny. It reminds me of Shyamalan. And I think even Ryan Johnson, to an extent you could say about Knives Out, there's these like references to the people they hate in real life. It's just like, oh, look at you. Shyamalan, if you guys haven't seen The Girl in the Water, I think it is, he makes himself the most important writer in the world in that film. Oh, no. Yeah. Lady in the Water. I found the quote here on good old Wikipedia. So this is something that he said, when you ask a friend of Hellboy is any good, you're not asking if it's any good compared to Mystic River. You're asking if it's any good compared to the Punisher. And my answer would be on a scale of one to four. If Superman is four, then Hellboy is three. The Punisher is two in the same way if American Beauty gets four stars, then the United States of Leland clocks in at about two. But the thing is, that's that really sounds a bit flawed because it sounds like he's saying that it goes it gets rated on a superhero movie metric. But the thing is, compare it. Let's say, for example, like if you were judging Logan versus fucking like a Superman, it's like those two, you know what I mean? Like you wouldn't. How do you even compare them in that way? They are as different from each other as you might find a comedy in a romantic fucking comedy. You don't need to convince me. I think that's a really nasty creature in the choir. Yeah. I got you. To another year of doing that, my film should be coming out next year and submitted to various festivals. And we've been able to finally Chris, I mean, Stockman, get it to me early and I will. We'll check it out and we'll review it. Honestly, a review. Hell, yes. Make sure to send a lot of factor 75 with it. I think Bell was making some of that. What kind of a film is he making? Which is just up my alley. I love horror when it's. I mean, he might be a serial killer. Those eyes are ADR, which is great. And so we are just about done with it. I mean, there's just like random little color corrections and things that we might adjust here and there. But it's. Fractions of color, please. Nine percent. It's real. And I can't wait to share it with you guys and what that journey will be like. And as always, I mean, it is. It is clever, isn't it? Right? Like if you if you stop doing the being critical in any way, shape or form, you kind of like priming people. Because I mean, if you are critical and people will be like, well, better be fucking good than her. Yeah. Whereas if it's just like, I'm just to I like movies. All right. I love movies. I believe I believe that I could be completely wrong that he's going to do better than the AVGN or RLM movies. You'll certainly do better than channel or some movies. I would say so. When you say better, what what do you mean there? That's a bold statement. I better in the set. That's a good question. You think what I'm getting at is do you think people say like, yeah, it's good. But then they're not going to talk about it like really much at all. Like it's not going to make his his fans will absolutely be comprised of 50 percent. That was amazing. And 50 percent. I did love it, Chris. But I feel like you could have and then just generic statement like the characterization was slightly off or I feel like it could have been paced a little bit better. Just a literally one second of it being cut out would have been better. That's all that's all I want to say. But then there'll be people like us who will probably find it to be like, that shot was neat or that joke was kind of funny or that character did that thing that was kind of OK. But the most of it we're going to be like, oof. But to be fair, that's what happens with YouTuber movies. I'm hoping the best for drink it, by the way. I realize that I'm saying this. I have seen the trailer for his short film and it looks pretty cool. I will say. With Red Letter Media, it's like they're trying to be shit. And it's like they would. I mean, Space Cop. You don't think so. So they've admitted they fucked up with Space Cop and what that means is more so that they bit off more than they could chew. They didn't expect it to be as difficult and that they didn't. I don't think they thought that it really achieved. Like, I don't know if this is controversial to say, but I think their average best of the worst video is infinitely more funny than Space Cop. I don't know what happened. A lot of the jokes in Space Cop are very like. Yeah. OK. So because I don't know a whole lot of comedy. So that was like, OK. Space Cop dragged a bit for me. The trailer was funnier than the movie. I thought. I think that's still as well. You know, like a chunk of money to be around with or like, but the thing. So what I think John's referencing, which I would completely agree with is this moments like where they're in quote unquote a spaceship and then you'll have like Jay playing one of the enemy soldiers and they'll shoot a window out and he'll go, oh, no. And then it'll cut to a wide shot with a clearly obvious dummy getting pulled through the window. That's really great. I love that shit. But then there's also stuff where you're like, oh, that was an attempt at telling a joke and it was not funny at all. Oops. OK, that's fine. Yeah. Moving on. It's sort of a it's a mixed bag in that way. Yeah, I agree. So they don't really want to give it another go by the side of it. Would you be interested in seeing them give it another go of making a film? So someone just said Red Alert Media can dish it but they can't take it. They have admitted more than anyone on the Internet that their movie is bad and they make fun of it all the time. It's part of what I love about them is that I one of the things that struck me when I found out Space Cop was coming was I was like, oh, they're doing another comedy type thing. They often do either comedy or horror comedy. And I was like, why can't they try a drama? They talk all the time about like how to do proper drama. It would be cool to see them like legitimately try and make something that's very much I don't know, supposed to make you because Gary often says and I'm inclined to agree that comedy is harder than drama. But the never doing drama at all, it's like, come on, give it a shot. I think you guys give it. You are that comedy has like a higher skill floor than drama. Yes. The best of both of them is going to take like a lot. Like, you know, Lord of the Rings is not easy. And that's like the Yeah. Yeah. It's one of the best comedies I've ever seen. Possible drama of just like pretty basic beats and tension and, you know, highs and lows. That's like something that whereas making someone laugh, it's like, there's really no clear rules on how that works. It kind of goes a lot of guideline. You're either good at it or you're not. You know, it's not even something you can really teach. Timing. How do you teach? Yeah. Timing, you know, like how do you add as something? My impression of it when it comes to writing that kind of stuff is that comedy is actually, it's not as stressful that there's actually not as much tension when you go into try it just because the worst you can do is then produce something which is shit and you know it's shit. So you can laugh at it which is itself of a kind of comedy. It is. If you try to set out to write a sincere work of drama and you really want it to be taken sincerely, you can't really laugh it away when it doesn't land at the end. Like it's harder to even begin to write something like that just because you are setting the bar higher for yourself with the outset. Are you talking like from the perspective of the creator in that case? Because what I was Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, bad comedy is really hard to watch. Whereas a bad drama can be funny. But I get it from me from the creative perspective. If you said that comedy is the worst thing and it's bad then it's like, oh shit, yeah, I can't laugh at it. Can I can't laugh at it. If someone makes something right. Like if all of us put out a thing where it's like this is my stand-up special and we don't laugh at a single joke. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. That sucks. Meanwhile, if I put out a thing like this is my drama and it's you know, guy with sword and he's killing a dragon and he saves the girl and you're all just kind of like Yeah. Yeah. It's like you can yeah, you can just sort of coast through it a lot of the times. Yeah. But bad comedy, you can't it's bad. Bad comedy is really difficult. Yeah, she's like 9-11 was bad, but at least it wasn't a bad comedy. Fucking hell. Someone just said this just in Pride and Prejudice is less easy than hangover lol. It's like it's not about like every comedy is harder than every drama. It's just a matter of because like I said, I think I think it's kind of intuitive to an extent that if you completely fail I think it's easier to completely fail comedy than it is to completely fail drama. Drama. How many classic dramas there are to classic comedy? Yeah. And honestly, when I just said good guy kills dragon and saves girl a lot of what is you okay with that? As long as you get some basic characters in there. Your basic dramatic beats are like very comprehensible in a way where what are the basic beats of comedy is like wow that's a bit more complicated. So what I would say is an equivalent maybe like character slips and falls. It's like yeah that can work but you're not going to be able to play that more than a few times before everyone's like this is boring. You know like basic. Well as someone who I actually co-wrote and produced a feature comedy that came out years ago my big fat independent movie which is a parody it's a spoof satire parody film of independent films. I mean it's at times raunchy comedy I'm not going to say I knocked it out of the park I give myself kind of a C for it but there are there are some parts that really worked Clint Howard's in it a Bob Odenkirk has plays a bit part Bob Odenkirk he plays the part of a he's a hit man who's bleeding profusely but he pays rent and he lives in the trunk of the two other hit men in the movie. So every time they open the trunk he's in the trunk and has an exchange. I mean it's stupid comedy I don't like that. It turns out though that like the audience that likes indie films with jokes about Amelie or like other independent films Tarantino films they don't like raunchy comedies they they just don't that audience doesn't. Yeah there's sexless sterile losers. Yeah. That was like my first feature film and you can I'm going to I'm actually going to re-release it next year on video on on video and then also I'm going to put out a blu-ray but you can pick up if you can find it you can get a standard Def DVD cheap on Amazon if you can find it. Yeah no it's no it's I think it's I think it's weird when you're like like I've been in the critical space for a long time but I've also made films. I made this short film called Red with Laurence Tierney years ago that blew up in the 90s. Scott Ian from Anthrax actually did music for it but I don't know I always I like doing both things and I don't give a shit but when I see like someone like Stuckman with a t-shirt that says filmmaker he's just trying too hard. Yeah like Hi I'm a filmmaker. It's kind of like the equivalent of the guy who sits in the Starbucks with his laptop almost like wanting somebody to ask him what he's doing. It's like I'm right. Yeah it's a little yeah it's a little more than you know with a hat that says screenwriter on it. He's the guy who exists in his car. He's the guy who gets up gets orders the coffee that they say a word that sounds vaguely like writer. And he goes yeah yeah I'm a writer. Yeah how'd you know I'm a writer. As a writer I can speak on this. I'm writing this really no no no we said Richard Richard your coffee's ready. Richard I gotta dip out Mahler. I gotta go. Sorry guys. Sorry to interrupt. So thank you so much for joining us. That's alright. See you right. We'll go on later. See you later. Bye. Take care everybody. It was fun. Ciao. I actually got to dip out soon as well but yeah if you ever want to eFap my film I would I would be all for it. Love it. Maybe we will. It's the only way I mean I'll see this. We're almost to the book. We're just a minute away. No I'm not. Just I'll just say this like to you know I talk to people in the industry all the time they're just they're more critical than critics because they know when something is shit. Know when what they're putting out is shit. And so it's like for Stuckman to be such a pussy like it just I don't know just a noise but also like I've never watched Stuckman. I'll watch John Campia when I want to know what a normal normie thinks of anything. Like what's the normie opinion on this because Don Campia's takes are all milk toast. He doesn't really have many thoughtful. He is definitely Pia and Stuckman could do a show that would put us all to sleep but like I never watched Stuckman. This is the most I've ever watched of him. How does this guy get hundreds of thousands of views like that's the thing that kind of like I'm miffed by is how does a guy like there's an easy answer. He started this really really early. Yeah. He was one of the first to start doing that. Literally he just recorded himself reviewing movies in the simplest possible way and he did it for fucking 15 years or some ridiculous shit. That's why whoever it's why DSP and like what was it was an irate gamer. There's the only reason these people have any traction at all is they did it really early. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine Chris started today. He get nothing. Nobody. Well especially remember that like in terms of you know I guess production quality of like a nice expensive camera a nice back. Well you know background right. That's like you got all the cool lights and the trailer visual as opposed to you know how scuffed it can be like if somebody's doing it for the first time that's like a big barrier as well. Like this just looks more professional even though the content of the script is barely anything. Well and for reference so anyone who's listened to this is like wow they're just fucking hate. It's like no no no Jeremy Johns is the one we would recommend as the positive angel version of this. Someone that I wouldn't necessarily like be like I can't wait for his opinion. But if I went to his video on a movie I would expect to hear something that I hadn't necessarily thought of. I'd be like oh yeah that's fair. Which is like that's super important and valuable thing of hey you've got the capacity to surprise me in a meaningful way not like are you surprised me with your pick but then you still said nothing really about the film at all. And I think it wasn't Jeremy Johns say like holy shit Star Wars is dying at a soon after TLJ came out or sometime after I remember thinking like oh wow. You usually only see that in the fair the depths of YouTube you don't usually have to I say that now everyone's saying it now but it's like well yeah what else could you say that's the only but Chris isn't gonna say it that would be mean. The starting early thing is huge I mean if you've spent 15 years slowly amassing an audience I mean that that pays off I mean I regularly think about that and I wish like I had just stayed independent rather than fucking working for Machinima back in back in the day you know where like I neglected my channel for like almost a decade and then I sort of went back to it and just like tried rebuilding it and it's like you know I never thought Machinima was going to be so mismanaged yeah it's it just seemed like the logical thing to do at the time but then you know well if any of us we're reset to zero two day it's it's not an easy climb but I still kind of believe that we could all get somewhere meanwhile uh I don't know this isn't even trying to be mean it's just like what why would anyone want to subscribe to Chris Tuckman after what we've just seen like that was incredible it was it was just nothing there and the best thing was whenever I asked Chris Gore like oh so if you see that movie and that he gives us a quick summary literally on a stream some thoughts he has already more substance than the scripted video that's insane yeah yeah with you sharing that journey so thank you once again for watching and I hope you guys check out these movies on this list and they bring a lot of joy and entertainment to you I'll see you always bring us showing Chris Tuckman you didn't sell it motherfucker Thor as always thank you so much for Stuckmanize us do it watching and if you like this you can click right here and get Stuckmanized yes yes yeah that's his turn I thought that was like a meme of other people made up no it's real it's really real better now he's Stuckmanized you listen this was like the most emotionally put in the whole video like he was looking forward to this the whole video I was like I can't wait to say the words I think we're gonna get Stuckmanized again let's go again thank you so much for watching and if you like this you can click right here and get Stuckmanized yes he said it again cool Stuckmanize me captain we did yes the music as well it's plastic it's beautiful if we were reviewing his film then this was a film by Chris Stuckman and it was an emotional oh we have to do that we have to put on a video this does that I felt things directed by Chris Stuckman it was previously directed short films oh what a Judy the Godzilla one bugged me the most sorry go ahead yeah I'm just gonna say does he have a feature that's coming out or what's going on with that yeah yeah Shelby Oaks would be the the movie the feature film and it's I think already making it I'm an Xurisad right yeah did he say he's making he's trying to sell it to different places submitted it to festivals and everything to festivals which is a tough road because most mainstream festivals don't like one they're they're not no don't let them hear you so they don't like to be called mainstream right right but I mean the big festivals like Sundance and whatnot those are tough to get into I had a movie at Slamdance which is the other festival but it and I've I've been on the festival circuit with a bunch of things but the markets really changed in the last several years as has everything else in terms of like what the expectation is I don't know that stuckman would care about him having it that the festivals the best route for him he could just release it and distributed himself if he wanted curious to see it I really want to see it because sometimes I mean it's not unusual for critics to cross over into making films I mean that's the whole story of the French Dave right it's like you're gonna write about film and then we're gonna make movies it happens quite a bit Rod Lurie among others but I'd be curious to see and horror is a pretty easy genre though to be fair like it's it's in terms of like a movie out of the gate I think horror is probably the easiest probably easier than drama or comedy yeah hey I've seen what passes for horror these days I agree I was about to say there's a similarity with all genres in terms of like what to do the basics to get away with it but I I guess you're right yeah like horror I've always seen is like the it's like the gutter with like what what is currently accepted as the good horror and it's like oh look it's a scary ghost house and then it goes blah blah blah and the character like has to go to some expert and they say like didn't you know in 1921 there was a woman who died and she did curse the whole town and you have to beat her with and then they beat with us and then at the ending they go and then it cuts to black well yeah they defeat them and then there's an after credit scene or just regularly seen at the end the regular ending where they don't win the ghost and it's fucking boring and this is the thing a lot of people because I love horror and it's like oh really wow what do you recommend I'm like let me get out my tiny list all right here's the list get the descent over by car all right wish upon is obviously at the top of the list yeah obviously wish upon all or did you see talk to see that movie made by those YouTubers from I saw that one yeah I saw that one I quite enjoyed it I think it's like one of A24's most successful films so that's gotta be the most successful like YouTuber turned making oh what about the wait wait well David Sandberg right yeah yeah continued yeah yeah I think it's okay I liked it I tend to like horror that's more psychological less gory I think gory's just yeah yeah yeah I love me existential and psychological they're my number ones gore has its place but like I often find most of the gore horror I watch I'm not watching it to be scared I'm watching it to be like entertained the soul being the number one soul yeah yeah yeah well you know like final destination too that's pretty gory and it's like it's so funny like I love how funny those movies are unfortunately I gotta I gotta take off speaking of gore I gotta gore out of here um fair enough I'm gonna say I was about to read his um his 50 best movies of 2000 I don't know if you want to stay for just the reading or not it's uh it's up to you uh oh my god it's already torture um I'll stay for I'll stay for I'll stay for I'll stay for I'll stay for yes it is rags underselling the mighty stuckman so yeah so the context I'll be as fast as I can to allow you to leave he made a book called he wrote one called the film buffs bucket list made a film buffs bucket list national best seller about his book his book is like a pamphlet you're holding it right like yes i'm holding it right now right here can see it you literally have it yes I do I've written a couple of pages I don't today get numbers I don't yeah okay it is 100 and 70 average book not many selling marketplace needs to be 50 to 60 thousand words I guarantee it's less than half the you got to keep in mind he's got 50 movies he talks about and it takes I think three pages per because he has a a page with just some artwork that looks like clip art to represent the film and then a page sometimes a page and a half to represent like his review which we're going to read some today because it'll be very fun yay it's barely a book is is what it's it's it's like he talks in the video that's the book mm-hmm well honestly the book goes into more depth like slightly more depth than that video does slightly in kind so it's titled the 50 movies of the 2000s to see before you die so um Fringy read this list out to me and I think I was missing two I'm gonna go ahead and guess Chris Caw you've seen all of these I would be curious to know which of these has not been seen by any of the cast today but I shall start reading them now the thing about Chris Duckman especially with a title like this I'm expecting to have heard of every one of these films I did not expect to have seen I think 48 of them I was very surprised but here we go oh jeez barely enough for Fringy imagine giving that book hey can you imagine giving that book to someone on their death bed Sming you're about to die here's this book you better start right now they'll be like you've got to see this before you die like okay I've seen all of them well okay you're good to die all right well you're good all right here we go so from the top American Psycho I mean okay okay yeah yeah okay Memento good old Nolan Unbreakable the uh the best of Shyamalan I think most would agree Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon of course Spirited Away that's um yeah there you go Donnie Docko mm-hmm Oceans 11 Minority Report Signs which when I saw that I was like I've got to read his thing for signs why is that on this list and we will X-Men 2 Pirates of the Caribbean The Curse of the Black Pearl The Last Samurai Old Boy The Lord of the Rings The Return of the King No Fellowship No Two Towers oh fuck you I'm sorry are you insane so sorry Chris only Return of the King you could have just put Lord of the Rings Trilogy but yeah maybe that's you know I don't know Spider-Man 2 That's wild Collateral The Incredibles Shaun of the Dead A History of Violence Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and then we reach one funnily enough I think when you described this to me for you you said Hidden Cache or Hidden Cache I said to you at the time I hadn't seen it because I didn't recognize that name at all but on the book it says Cache and then in brackets Hidden me and Rags watched Cache we did and boy I did not enjoy it I was not usually fond of it no but I have seen that one sounds like holy shit I would not recommend Casino Royale is it is it Cache or Hidden Cache sorry so it's Cache I think Cache or Cache and then in brackets Hidden I think that means that's the English translation I'm not sure oh okay Casino Royale The Departed The Born Ultimatum Zodiac There Will Be Blood No Country for Old Men Trick or Treat Trick or Treat I guess Trick or Treat Yes that is an Apostrophe Aria An Anthology Halloween Movie I like it I think it's neat The Dark Knight Coraline 500 Days of Summer In Glorious Bastards Inception Toy Story 3 Drive Bishop Impossible Ghost Protocol When was this book written? Because I'd be curious how many Mission Impossible's fought over that spot you know well and also 2000s I thought meant 2000 to 2010 but this list includes films that came out like after 2010 oh yeah dude if we actually got a list of all the films that didn't make it to this list I think we'd all die The Avengers Snowpiercer Prisoners The Winter Soldier Enemy Under the Skin which I'm kind of shocked is here to be on yeah see there's one of me a lot of these films are from the 2010s not the 2000s in the general sense that people think of it Edge of Tomorrow The Babadook Birdman Whiplash When Marnie was there which I don't actually that's the one I don't recognize Mad Max Fury Road Creed and the best one saved for last of course Star Wars The Force Awakens Make sure you see that before you die okay Corporate approved list I mean in a sense you kind of want to see before you die just to see what they did with Star Wars No Protect those old people Why die happy The thing about that list is it's just like those are like a lot of really predictable safe choices there's not many like oh huh you know there's no wow except for like wow The Force Awakens holy shit okay yeah A lot of them are so expected that it's like oh yeah but kind of like again if you're top 10 you've got like Casablanca Citizen Kane like those types of films you know what I mean or like The Godfather or my taxi driver or stuff like that it would just be Gary finally realized he hasn't left yet Gary finally left What are all these voices in my head Who's that They sound like my friends Why is there so many movies It seems like Where is Metal here? I thought he wasn't here Oh I've just been here the whole time Oh I was talking before we saw it He's coming through Molly's channel I think Where is this metal creature? I was wondering where his voice was coming from Right next to the long man right now Yes We're both appreciating the book Yeah He's right next to him He's on the one side and there's a sheep on the other side just chilling out True Metal flew across the world to see to read Chris Duckman's book with his best friend With the list right out I'd like to read a quote that is celebrated on the back of the book from author of She-Rose Val-a Ventura She says of Chris Duckman Chris Duckman is the rogery bit of YouTube and this book is awesome Is that it? Yeah that's the quote Oh and this book is awesome Oh okay Thank you for that Also I can read the back of the book This book is always really short but I do find that pretty what like the description of the power of this book Yeah but they don't have to feel so short Yes Yes please do All right Please read Millions of movie fans rely upon pop culture Tastemaker Chris Duckman's film reviews before they buy a ticket Why? Tastemaker Because Stuckman delivers the goods Don't ever call me Tastemaker Oh god you're not ready for this I hadn't even read this book Just call me fucking asshole before you call me Tastemaker I guess this is before the error of Influencer as a term Yeah He's a Tastemaker which is decidedly more awkward So it continues Because Stuckman delivers the goods with deeply informed and thoughtful reviews that help us sort out the must-sees from the Don't Waste Your Time Schlokfest Schlokfest sounds like an endorsement I'll absolutely watch a Schlokfest And that also sounds pretty negative Chris Yeah Chris Well this was written before his change This was the old Chris This was before his rebirth This was before the Stuckman renaissance He must take the book down because it's mean We kind of mean this His honest take as a cinephile is something you can always depend upon Oh he wants to fuck movies Oh my god This is what sets him apart from the pack and makes his bucket list selection an excellent guide to movies you just gotta see before you start pushing up daisies I'm sorry but who who loves film needs this list you know I don't know Yeah I mean I'm told It's like a tough guide for people who already know how to do the thing I'm told day in day out that I have like the worst mainstream taste levels ever right but the the taste maker himself has provided a list in which I only don't recognize one and haven't seen two Like come on man I can just die according to him but I'm not exactly looking to All right This continues Since the turn of the century movie lovers have been enjoying a second golden age but which films are the best of the best What are the top movies since 2000 to see before you die In the film buff's bucket list Chris Stuckman one of YouTube's most popular film reviewers not so much anymore gives us his best of the best these are films you must see before you die as Stuckman says my love of movies turned into the turned into the art of film Why My love of movies turned into the art of that's he's not a very good writer My love of movies turned into the art of film That is what it is right I don't know I can only see the microphone But you're there you can read it yourself He's referring to his own transition into a like a film maker like he wasn't a film maker before now he is right I assume that's what he's talking about Oh he's trying to that's not great grammar but that's okay That still doesn't make any sense because then it might no my love of what no love what I mean I'm just trying to guess what the fuck he might no I think you're right I think what he wanted to say was my love of movies turned me into the person that makes movies I always love when you when I read something say oh it's probably a language barrier and then you guys are like I don't know what that means like oh okay I'm fine it's the spotless area Americans have trouble language barrier A good movie is like a bomb it can soothe, enthrall, entice inspire, discover, movie What? A bomb can entice? I don't know what he meant what he meant B-A-L-M? A bomb? Yes a bomb Okay Remember I'm British so I say bomb All right Oh okay Discover movies you and your family will love with this book What? Start the popcorn Start the popcorn Start the popcorn I guess Hang on I'm just gonna turn on the popcorn I'm just gonna speak up and well you can that you can they do they do you can you can you can but nobody says Start the popcorn You say grab the popcorn Grab the popcorn I'm gonna prepare the popcorn No I'm gonna make some popcorn Second language Start the popcorn Ignition of popcorn and you get it going I'm hitting play guys get the popcorn started and then we have to wait for the pause at five minutes in We have another quote from Alicia Malone film reporter and author of backwards and in heels she says Chris Stuckman's intelligent take on film has seen his popularity on YouTube skyrocket and his passion is easy to see in this book the film buffs bucket list has a fantastic selection of movies both big and small that all film lovers can enjoy this is a wonderful reference guide for the times where you don't know what to choose and will enhance the knowledge of all movie geeks I just don't buy the movie geeks have seen these most of these if not all the movie geeks have seen most of these if there was if we were to make a book here on EFAP with all of our our very good friends if we were to put our collective brains together and we were going to introduce people into I guess this the sphere of the hobby then we would pick a bunch of movies that would incorporate different elements of the filmmaking process so we'd make sure that the movies would have like really good cinematography or like the use of color some really good characters we'd pick some long movies and we picked some really short ones too to you know to be able to you know show the difference between them but they'd be it'd be a varied list that covers all the bases along with the explanations as to why this is something that you should maybe appreciate and here's what it did well and you can contrast that with these movies that are done really poorly so that it's really easy to I guess to see and to learn this stuff I wouldn't just be see all these good recommending bad films to be honest either also I return to the king and spider-man 2 it's like bro come on well I mean if you're going to include like a sequel surely you're going to have to include the earlier one as well if the story is there's only 50 entries really yeah you can't we got to do this yeah I said that and obviously there's there's probably no point in talking about all the I mean obviously good films will be omitted no matter what if you limit yourself to 50 but it is again it's just like man they're all like very normal choices there's not many surprising ones what's very cool about this like oh wow really is that the way it's written here is that you can cross them off your bucket list and you can rate them from five four out of five stars so that's pretty cool because that's what you do if you're a movie reviewer you rate things out of five stars hell yeah or four if you're Rod you're Rod David right I always found four to be weird oh yeah he did four yeah four is weird four is shit I'm gonna read his signs review but then all of you I expect all of you to target one of the ones I mentioned and then I will read the review of that particular chosen one I will happily read the list again to you if you require that but I assume something stood out to you at least I hope so well I've already heard that once I'm gonna get more alcohol wow he's right you know I'm right to him I actually actually gotta dip out guys but um this has been um a pleasure well yeah what's your assessment of Chris Stuckman give us give us your unadulterated thoughts upon the man himself this is so basic it's all mainstream Hollywood it's all mainstream Hollywood stuff thing interesting no radical choices no independent films no foreign films no whatever I mean it's just like that is it's like a list of movies that came out that is what he compiled and then decided to spew thoughts on paper right which is I don't know like it just I feel like I learned nothing so and you were pointing out he told you want to start the popcorn yeah he did yeah he did yeah that's true set the ignition for the popcorn but like Jeremy Johns you were talking about earlier I like him I like his takes their short gets in gets out is something interesting to say he's not afraid to critique things when they deserve it so I quite enjoy him but uh but I do think it's I do think it's interesting to like pay attention to someone like a John Campier Uckman just to know like oh is this a normal person thinks is this what the normal people are saying again original thoughts right you know like but stuck man I don't know like so I don't pay attention to him as his scriber count gone down or views of his videos gone down or like what's the his engagement is lowered ever since he decided he wouldn't be critical but I think it was go it was trending down anyway because the fact is like anyone who watches almost exclusively him the second you watch another sort of film reviewer that has much more passion I don't see why you continue watching him you'd be like oh yeah I can't wait to hear him say the exact same thing again about another movie yeah like I I think John Campier is experiencing the same thing where he's seeing just his views excuse me his views are just like have dropped dramatically you know um it's I think it's also because he got rid of Robert Meyer Burnett who I mean he was the reason I watched the Campier show was I always wanted to see what RMB had to say but now he's got his own and also there's really no need so well I'm gonna ask you I don't have a particularly strong view of John Campier from the clips I've seen thanks to Gary and others he's uh but you know you know maybe he seems he seems overtly happy with a lot of what happens with Disney stuff which uh is always a red flag of like yeah you think they're doing great right now hoki doki but I haven't seen him review you know your average film maybe he's got plenty of insight you're in there probably not as much as Chris Stuckman of course right right but gentlemen it's been a pleasure hanging out with you it's my first EFAP so thank you for going easy on me I uh glad to have you sir we'll try and get you back again so maybe talk about a movie one that we love yeah that'll be fun yes no definitely just something interesting but I don't even know how do I leave what do I do just go to a different discord big red button right the hang up yeah that'll work it's a red button you're having to walk me through this it's like Gary trying to get out of a room well as you should be trying to leave five buttons underneath the play the not player I can't to the fucking Gary took like a whole hour to leave so just leave the phone all right big red button you got this okay well Merry Christmas in jail here everybody later all right well I guess I can read you his signs review now if you'd like oh yes yeah belly even went for a pee ow yeah oh he's abusing himself for the art I didn't even heard but I said ow anyway yes signs 2002 drama sci-fi thriller we've all seen signs a classic starring Mel Gibson Joaquin Phoenix Rory Kelkin directed by M Knight Shyamala Shyamala beautiful studio touchstone pictures all right here we go here comes the like the way he does this is you'll be like this is the movie and now here's the reasoning so get ready if you read the introduction to this book then you already know how important this film is to me it literally changed the way I view movies the only reason I'm writing these words right now is because my mom took me to the theater in 2002 changing my life that night I sat in my room a new kid signs affected me so much that I even attempted to recreate the film in a shoddy and pointless shot-for-shot remake our resulting film was embarrassingly bad but it undoubtedly communicated my love for filmmaking at that age almost all the negativity I see directed at signs are from complaints that universally miss the point idiots people tend to pile hate on Shyamalan toxic because they watch his films from a very straightforward wooden perspective with most of his movies and especially with signs this is not the right approach on paper signs is about a grieving family dealing with an alien invasion occurring around the world Mel Gibson wow gives a harrowing performance as a former priest trying to protect his family from this otherworldly threat simply follow this plot and signs still works as a marvelously suspenseful surprisingly funny thriller hilarious that's it oh is that everything he has to say that was just him whining that people don't like Shyamalan oh you know what I'm wrong there's another page there's two more paragraphs I'm so sorry here we go we haven't even seen this before now this is me Shyamalan ding dong I mean I was counting on you to reading me all of it here we go man oh my god I'm so excited but where signs truly shines is its brilliant subtext the film is riddled with hidden meanings that few audiences pick up on the loss of faith denial of a higher power heaven hell demons angels prophecies Shyamalan Snyder film Shyamalan's script and subtle art direction build a truly touching story and one that many have overlooked you can watch signs as enjoyable escapism and it still works but if you're willing to dig a little deeper I'm positive you'll discover a thematically rich and powerful work of art it still hasn't stopped inspiring me and it never will you don't have to dig into signs at all to find loss of faith that's like the character talks about it overtly is that's not like subtext signs is a bad movie I like it but it's not good the signs is actually the you weren't so wooden signs is the movie along with the village that turns Shyamalan from being a good director into a bad one that's uh and then Lady in the Water's after this right assigns problem is that your Pinocchio of Molo your you have a wooden perspective you that's that's you oh man dammit I think your nose got so you're killing your filthy lies as little platoon just pointed out nobody missed what signs was about we got it but aliens that don't know how to open doors the better signs still the scary movie three by the way the way Chris writes about it I mean I don't know how old he is I don't know if this is the case but it sounds like he's describing his first experience at the theater like is that is that the first thing you went to see 2002 so he would be why I don't know I can't be it he would have been around the age of 10 something like that no why it wouldn't be his first it would have been the one that affected him the most which you know it can't be anything which by the way is fine but claiming nobody understood it so fucking cliche not that I've never claimed that about certain movies that's okay I'm just saying sides of all things like right yeah why didn't you pick a cool movie like like put him on the movie yeah well like if he's just describing his first theater experience like that's the first movie that he saw in a theater that made an impression on him and he's like excited I did about it then like whatever like okay okay um okay yeah I don't know if that was the first thing you saw like I mean I've talked before about my experiences watching Lord of the Rings blowing my mind but I was seven eight and nine when I saw those in the theaters yeah very formative you can imagine they blew me away well I leave it to we'll go we'll go from left to right from my discord so Fringy is the first what review would you like to hear from the selection wait are we are we having a actually like go through several not all of them just your choice pick one yeah but it means we're gonna go through like six of them yeah could you read me the list one more time let me well I'll just find the list yeah you know if you can post a list so everyone can sort of figure out which one they want to get what we do the next I have it here let me see let's go with the Incredibles yeah okay we'll do metal first with the Incredibles now the reason I'm gonna need to speak excessively is because I got to find it so here I go speaking as if there's something happening when really there isn't at all I'm just I'm picturing I'm picturing Mahler and metal both awkwardly using the same key crammed into the same place I don't know if he ordered these no I need to type no stop it all of them I think okay so Incredible should be 500 days of but no this isn't ordered damn you Chris oh it's not how am I supposed to find them with ease now I guess he doesn't want me to specifically to prevent me from doing a stream like this well that's a chapter less surely right at the front of the book maybe there is who knows have a look no no no yes I am physically with the long man in the same room isn't that Wow it's not even getting what they bring I don't know there's no chance to look not even the first time it happens crazy that's just silly he's got the list to the end but he doesn't have a page number for them why won't you do your list the same order than the thing you written well page numbers and indexes and table of contents that's some pretty high-level stuff that you don't learn early on as writer that's some yeah those are some industry secrets come on man is this seriously not a content list of content I think you did them in order of release date but then he didn't do that on the fucking end you fucking retard yeah but he didn't do that on the collective list at the end why he did them alphabetical yeah I think did he know that we did three different lists three different orders they're not the same listing I know that much when did a when did incredible you know that 2003 there we go for I didn't expect us to be such a confusing incredible phone yeah all right I'm gonna gather everyone for the review of incredible marshmallows animation action adventure director Brad Bird starring Craig T Nelson Jason Lee Holly Hunter and studio Walt Disney pictures there's basically a full review of the movie right there I was gonna say we've mostly covered Chris's video all right we just need the seven you open up the book and it somehow plays the seven second-long sound label those quick facts usually those are quick facts yeah the first time I saw a toy story I couldn't imagine anything topping it oh no incredible it's I wanted the credibles in fact it took nearly 10 years for Pixar to make a film I viewed as an improvement and here it is good save Mahler good save the Incredibles centers around a family of superheroes forced to lead normal lives when a lawsuit outlaws all superheroes or that's a sentence this is a brilliant idea it's not a great sentence imagine the Hulk sitting behind a desk at an insurance agency eventually trouble inevitably bruise and our heroes have to come out of retirement Brad Bird has become a hero's name no he hasn't that's what he said our heroes but he hasn't listed them yet yeah or mentioned who they are just imagine just like imagine the imagine the Hulk behind a desk and then our heroes have to he hasn't concisely presented the premise which is that it's you know why friggy you know why cuz he's saying this is though you've seen it writes like you've already completely bought into it and you've seen it what's the point of the fucking bucket list you seeded great but yeah you said Brad Bird has become a household name I if we're talking like Spielberg it's like it's not that level is he even Nolan level it's like probably not I would say that he's probably one of the more well-known directors of animated films I'd agree with that yeah that would do but that's still like niche I would imagine that most people many people have seen this films but I I would be surprised if you could find any just normal sort of moviegoer who could name one Pixar director that would surprise me mm-hmm that's fair yeah I feel like Pixar is the household name and Brad yes got famous when it comes to video games the development studio is what people often think about it's the team not necessarily any individual like you know a guy at the top creative director or whatnot but with Incredibles he was still proving himself birds the iron giant received critical praise upon its release in 1999 yet it was a financial bomb the Incredibles helped put bird on the map like the iron giant Incredibles or the Incredibles sorry is a loving tribute to old-fashioned filmmaking heightened by a jazzy score from Michael Giacchino the film's vibrant visuals explode off the screen no 3d required even better than animation though other I'm sorry what the fuck even better than animation though the character he's saying the characters are better than the animation okay that's a weird thing to say I don't even know how to imagine I said like the character the Lord the Rings are better than the practical effects be like yeah I feel like that only works when you're talking about the extremes on either end but apart from that it's a really strange thing to say my guess would be that it's like well when people think of animated films they're often thinking of the animation so see this is how I establish to them that the characters are so great by saying that it's better than the animation which is really bizarre when the animation is part of the storytelling and imbuing the characters with life but yeah I feel like the given characters the way that they move through the world and how it changed like you know Mr. Incredible right when you take like the way that he looks cramped in his office to eventually going on his big training montage to where it becomes like in shape again superhero that's all storytelling that's coming from the animation that's in the character so why it's just a weird point to make that you could probably say something like you will be more impressed by the characters than by the animation but why would you make some compete now you have me in my brain making those two great the sentence would be like perhaps as impressive as the incredible animation is the character writing or something equally impressive yeah you know equally impressive or something don't yeah I'd say it's hard to it's hard to say which is better all right characters or the animation you're gonna be so pissed the next sentence here goes you ready oh boy do they end with a preposition he says so on about the characters right that's the context the next sentence they the family sorry they quite literally leap from the screen literally isn't strong enough of a word he has to say quite literally they quite leap from the screen they quite literally leap from the screen and strangled me and slapped me in the face the family dynamic is a huge part of the film's emotional heft and makes their eventual team up all the more enthralling the Incredibles is tons of fun for everyone but it's also an extremely smart film that still entertains today birds energetic world is populated with superheroes that feel more human than the actual human stars of many lesser films that's a that seems like it's a clumsily written well it seems unnecessary than the actual human stars of the real life yeah that's and plus you're comparing yeah that's weird so was there any other Pixar film on that list I don't think they were oh toy story three yeah that was all right yeah okay obviously yeah look right Pixar favoritism and bias especially for that era I don't know that there's any studio that consistently delivered that many excellent films then yes because like yeah you asked me to make this list there'd be more than there'd be more and there wouldn't be Toy Story 3 then they'd be finding Nemo Ratatouille Wally and Monsters Inc I yeah I think I put all of those ones on there and it's like what about up it's like yeah maybe you put up on there maybe but definitely those five all right it's okay who's next that's okay I'll go next I'll go next unless Fringy would really like are we doing so excited since we did metal and myself I feel like at this point it could just be anybody but I don't mind going in an order of some sort if you want okay right yeah sure you can you can pick well I'm looking at the list from IMDB and I saw number one and I had to stop there let's go with his number one pick Star Wars episode five six seven the four so wakens oh god that was gonna be my pick I would just like to thank rags and a little platoon for mentioning this because I was torn between Force Awakens and another one like now I can pick my other choice and hear this yeah so the Falls Awakens 2015 action adventure fantasy directed JJ Abrams starring Daisy Ridley John Boyega Oscar Isaac studio Lucasfilm limited I think I would probably go with science fiction before fantasy yeah that's weird that it listed as a fantasy and not science at the very least you call it science fantasy before fantasy yeah yeah yeah that's okay it's okay I'm normalizing science fantasy is a thing but like if you're gonna choose that's not the one I'd go with it's like 95% science fiction and 5% fantasy perhaps no film in history was more anticipated than Star Wars the Force Awakens in fact that anticipation has led many to unrealistic expectations the original trilogy is often highly regarded in the minds of fans as untouchable near perfect entertainments I don't like that line while I do love those films I also recognize that no film is perfect boring in today's day and age a highly anticipated film that perhaps isn't a work of utter perfection can be lambasted as awful it's a strange and unwelcome development but nonetheless the Force Awakens receives a lot of unwarranted hate what a way to start your fucking review of the Force Awakens everyone by the way we need me against it did he use entertainment in the plural did he say did he put an S at the end of that the sentence in the fall always yeah the sentence for is the original trilogy is often highly regarded in the minds of fans as untouchable nearly perfect entertainments that sounds weird if that's a thing then I wouldn't use it there because if you use entertainments you normally are trying to group a bunch of different forms of entertainment like if you go there the fair would be a place of entertainments many different kinds of entertainment but we're talking about a bunch of movies a collection of movies so if we're picking apart the grammar highly regarded as untouchable is redundant obviously if it's untouchable then obviously yes it's highly regarded as untouchable yes I mean we can all agree it's an entertainment very true it is one entertainer I will take one entertainments please all right that will be one dollars I loved this film and I honestly feel that in years to come and especially with future releases it will God of great respect was this written in 2015 that could I think it's 2000 and sickly early 2016 that these people tells me it's very similar to that Kramer clip of saying don't take your money out of the best I want to read it again it's such a funny line I loved this film and I honestly feel that in years to come and especially with future releases it will God of great respect so the opposite came true with horrible releases the TFA is lost in incredible amount of respect it's now considered dirt basically pretty much and then he goes on to say many movies since well I just Skywalker retired I would think it's considered the least dirt out of the new three ones because like that that's like the safe retread of a new hope right so what's happened for a lot of people is that they see it as the reason everything went to shit like it started it so it depends on who you're talking to but I think I think you're right I think if everyone was settled in to choose the worst the TFA would come out on top I think because people have a very personal hatred for tlj and then most just film lovers think that right Skywalker was an insult to film in general mm-hmm right so he goes on hell the empire strikes back received a surprisingly luke warbrist no it did not luke warbrist I don't know what's going on like my parents don't care that much about star wars but even my mom knows about star wars because of that she was alive when this was going on she was like yes everyone fucking was obsessed with star wars like why you pretend it like you could just say yeah most people didn't really care about empire you know like this is kind of a man movie it came out you know such bullshit received a surprisingly lukewarm response upon its initial release back in 1980 you always wonder like what exactly is the point that someone's trying to make ah see a film got a lukewarm response so maybe in the future everybody will consider it good it's like yeah but what about all the films that get a lukewarm response and a permanently have a lukewarm response forever it never changes yes it's um it's the thing we heard since like from the beginning and I believe uh once we hit the 10 years everyone could admit they were wrong we're at what oh medals here yes we're getting uh eight years eight years removed from the force awakens we're getting there uh well I was gonna say the tlj is the one that most people say like it will be considered a masterpiece in a decade it's like no most day uh someone's told me uh in chat that empire strikes back one people's choice award for the year it came out you mean people's people's meh award people's hatred award look I I don't look I I just based on everything my parents say in the things that all the olds you know talk about I don't believe this idea that that this it seems like this lie that's propagated to try and justify tlj that the empire strikes back was not loved when it came out it's bullshit everyone knows but empire strikes back is what turned star wars into like a franchise that's what made it the franchise that it became so I mean to be fair nobody knows like why wingers either so often I am your father and I just there's no way there's no way this is a total rewriting of history to try and make tlj to to say no no no it'll get better just like empire to try to try to tie those two together like that argument is passed itself by day anyway because you know we're now several years out from tlj so even if you accept the premise that empire was received luke warmly and then improved it would have improved much more quickly than tlj hasn't at all so like even if you accept the premise the argument doesn't hold anymore but the premise was incorrect anyway so well the it's it's interesting that the claim is predicated on no arguments other than well people didn't like it and then eventually they did as if like that's a meaningful response to criticisms that are being levied like specific criticisms that you would have to change people's minds on the things that they are criticizing for the perception of change that's what needs to happen and and it feels like when tlj came out everybody was having a shoot like there was so many discussions happening about the contents of the film that have been like thoroughly exhausted this point what what is the new information that's going to change people's minds on um like the hyperspace kamikaze or luke's like a complete not a character assassination what are the new arguments going to be five or 10 years later that will change everybody's minds yeah that's right there aren't any yeah i yeah you got me there fringy you got me there good point something like i also find it funny that it's like if you have to wheel out that argument straight away instead of like making more i guess maybe that'll be what he's about to do what are all of these comprehensive defenses that are going to be like wheeled out they've already done it they're already at the the internet is like youtube is a graveyard of attempted tlj defenses yeah that's true actually which is funny it's kind of all tried everyone tried it didn't stick none of it stuck what's kind of kind of an interesting phenomenon that conversations happen a lot faster now to where reaching i guess the end point of the world's idea on any given film or television show like that just happens a lot more quickly yeah it's not gonna take years for people to come around it's like well people basically figure out how they feel in like a month or two months or you know the internet and social media they do sort of hyper accelerate that discussion and yes yeah you're right to where like what's gonna happen other than people going on twitter trying to make posts like oh you know everybody got it so wrong and it's like nobody's still thinking about this scene nobody's convinced first reply yo this movie was trash lol well every post about that throne room scene i i don't even know that they attempt to make it an appreciation post as opposed to a fight post they're like when they post it like yeah let's get going yeah it's like i haven't still haven't seen any arguments except uh ridley is a woman that she's bad it's like no it's because of shit character ridley i mean oh i guess that works yeah daisy ridley i was going for yeah fair enough i don't remember ridley in uh in uh star wars and i remember them fighting the big purple dragon guy but they should have would have improved it should have would have been a better hey don't drag don't drag don't besmirch his name don't drag him into this mess shall i continue there is a particularly funny line coming up well actually i i really need to use the loo i can't so and now but i want to hear this so i'll be right back very well quick platoon stop for time quick oh god oh no let's do tell us about the thing that you can tell us about a flip i can i can store for time on tlj that this is easily possible um so yes but like going back to the empire comparison then just for starting for time's sake because this is such an obvious point and it really doesn't need to be said but even the types of criticisms that you could level against empire are not the types of criticisms people did level against tlj so even if you again accepting the premise that it was received luke warmly the most i think i've ever seen is that people were you know like surprised at the darker tone that the franchise took yeah and if they wanted to feel good thing like a new hope then they were surprised and maybe weren't necessarily like happy or satisfied because it was darker but if you go into basic you know plot dissection or structural character construction decision making by characters expanded world building stuff like all the stuff that tlj falls apart on it's not just a matter of artistic difference that leads people to say that no tlj is just a dog ship film it's the fact it's a dog ship film on all of the levels hey you're not gonna find me disagreeing something i found interesting is that um part of the mounting of the defense for the last Jedi is now oh you know they made a real star wars movie they made a real movie and that that turned off star wars fans it's like you can't build up tlj by talking about how shit like all the other star wars movies are it's not gonna work like who do you think you're gonna convince whereas the empire strikes back can be built up without tearing down a new hope you don't have to tear it down to present like a case for that film even something like return of the Jedi or the prequels where we're all very away from years of dissection what's wrong with them i don't appreciate comparisons even with them i'm just like leave them alone compared to tlj at least they were trying to add to this fucking thing instead of absolutely destroy it my favorite back and forth is when someone says let the past die kill it if you have to that's the message of tlj and then someone goes you idiot that was the villain's point of view the film is actually countering it but then the more interesting take is then to see someone's like you idiot that's obviously what ryan was trying to do but he created a film and people would argue intentionally that actually does support that point of view and does destroy its legacy does kill the past he believes that's the way to move forward that would be his version of subversion meanwhile uh we have tried for many years on e-fab to try and try and push back on the damage he's done to subversion some of my favorite films of all time incorporate subversion and he's made it a dirty word so thank you for that mr johnson that dirty subversion here what a big johnson he is for doing that oh he's probably a small johnson oh he's he's at home listening to this right now and he's like oh wow that milk motor guy is too much of course the germans got that fucking piece of shit let me get like the other ones as well when you they they get a bit desperate by the end and say well rey is not a mary sue and anyway luke and anakin were mary sue so it's fine that she is one no none of that's true but also yeah the the the compulsion to try and tear down the thing before to make the new thing seem better when you start getting to that point when you stopped arguing for the film on its own merits then you are already losing that argument i think god that conversation got so poisoned because people like moved it into what is a mary sue and whether or not she categorizes the correct as it or whether or not it moves on in a meta sense of whether or not it's like can we just talk about how she as a character she was that was like where we were going with that so you have to like reformat and be like she always any struggle she encounters in the entire story either ultimately benefits her or she escapes it immediately and then they're like yeah that's okay god there's a weird thing going on there where it's like i mean i'm not a star wars guy but like i can recognize like broad storytelling structure are you and like when you when you're telling a when you're when you're doing like a trilogy of movies people are looking at it as like a a sort of three at one sort of three act story where the middle chapter or act has to be like the darkest chapter right so like the you know your low point is going to be in the middle movie in the middle movie of like a trilogy of movies and so people look at the last jedi and like they just they justify all the decisions made in the last jedi just by the fact like oh well it's supposed to be dark like the empire strikes back was dark and it's like well there's there's a good way and bad way of doing that i'm speaking of as somebody who initially liked the last jedi and then i listened to you guys talk about it i'm just like oh yeah you guys make a lot of good points i mean maybe this um this movie isn't that mean you're a victim of like the alt right pipeline or something you've been radicalized i was going to say you know don't worry you john there's like a there's a guy out there i think it would be like seven hour video about how much he didn't like it you can probably check that out i guess maybe i don't know it's curious yeah all suggestion but yeah i mean it's uh that one that is the film that has been talked about the most in efab sort of history because it's just the one it's the baby it's the one that changed everything for a lot of people and uh honestly would be seen as the flash point for the current place that not only um i guess sort of star wars and lucas film are at but also to an extent where disney is at and then also to an extent where hollywood's at you can definitely uh place the pin point further back in fact it's probably more accurate to place it further back but it seems to be the one that everyone sort of sees as like holy shit it feels like there was a before and after with that film which is kind of interesting to think about culturally like in terms of perception like people initially yeah i think before tlj there was a much more of a willingness to be like listen they're the ones making the films so we understand that they're the ones that know what they're doing and we're the ones that watch them so we go hey you know that that that was kind of fun uh even the worst films would be like but um i mean a lot of people said that they fucking you know essentially vomited when they saw tfa so i'm not going to speak for everybody i'm just saying there was a general cultural shift i wanted when i saw tlj there's a lot of people who and this by the way this phenomenon was i never saw it more passionately than with the finale for game of thrones season eight but there was a lot with tlj who i think legit saw the film and we're like that was and then they went to the internet being like is someone talking about this that captures my point of view and then a lot of careers were born including my own and efap and moller yeah hello we're here because of you ryan thank you so much for making that shit movie but i mean kind of a dick for killing stars but i yeah all right he take you with a bad didn't have to go that far half a dozen in the other as they say anyway i can continue with his assessment of the force awakens please do not done so well we're halfway he says the practical creatures animatronics and use of real locations and sets make the world feel lived in and realistic adding to the grounded and tortured new characters kylo ren in particular is captivating enhanced by an impressive performance by adam driver john boyega is endlessly charismatic as fin but the real discovery is daisy ridley who plays one of the best film heroes in recent memory wow oh damn really he said that he said that wow i wonder if you would say that today you know what i think he wouldn't because i get the impression this is as we've said before this is all very much just you put the licks the finger puts it up in the air and says force awakens is great oh yeah then the few years later he's like force awakens is good and if you put his finger up now he'd be like force awakens is a mixed bag oh why the reason i was gonna pick the one because i want to know what like about the force awakens even if you like that film what is the pressing need to watch the force awakens before you die as opposed to the other star wars films that came out in the because why die happy well that's true but they're adding to the galaxy whatever it is like why wouldn't you pick i don't know even with all its flaws in the night revenge of the sith so he is a direct product of rlm and in the sense that he is 100 in line with them on the prequels he would never express a different opinion i don't mean that to be critical of either of them necessarily what i'm trying to explain is he would you never see the prequels on this list he considers it part of his identity to be that he can hate on it i think we should probably cover his prequel reviews at some point because that could be pretty funny but yeah okay you know like all of us i assume here agree that all three prequels beat out the force awakens um in fact they all beat out the seagulls just in general they beat out the pickles for a little bit and bad movies but they definitely beat out the seagulls are impressive and how they were written in any case um yeah he he he actually makes vague reference uh to what you're you're talking about if i continue here he's he's he's gonna come up he says um ridley as in daisy ridley's work here is so real that i'm itching to see what else she can do another great addition was oscar isaac as po a cunning pilot and a very fun character cunning i just find that funny he's a very fun character not really fun character i mean you know there's more cunning expressed by uh finn in in nursing he's the one that yeah i don't know why he did i don't know why he thinks i wonder he was thinking when he wrote that or he wasn't but i mean don't know he's just not in the movie much no and there's not even with tlj which i'm guessing at you said this was written this was written in 2016 so it doesn't even have to be written before tlj now um the force awakens also breathes oh wait sorry while it follows a similar formula laid out in previous films that's pretty funny the force awakens breathes new life into the franchise with its energy its humor its emotion and above all characters that's really funny i feel like that's so terribly i think honestly though this 100 matches what everyone was saying when force awakens came out this was the take especially it does feel like um the force awakens was kind of the first of what a lot of films were trying to do at that time which is grab as much of like the iconography that people recognize of whatever franchise you're trying to like reboot or retool uh or continue but like in terms of the actual substance is vacuous and that like the this was kind of early on where when you see all of the visuals of all of like oh wow look at the you know look at the tie fighters and look at the x wings and look at like the droids and everything isn't that cool that now that doesn't really work as much even more people like oh well yeah i mean yeah you can do that you can make things look like things i recognize but it's almost like now you kind of sit in there worried like oh shit are you actually gonna it's going to be written well is it going to do a service to the series i like or is it just going to look like the thing that i like you know like it's the fucking halo right then so that was what that was sit here annoying me coming out of the cinema for that reason because i came out thinking god i really hope the next one isn't just empire but bigger um but i could kind of understand that the rationalization was well you know it's been a long time since star wars and the prequels were universally loved so you can understand from the studio perspective you're going to do something that's familiar to everyone get bumps back on seeds restore faith and franchise and progress from that point i didn't like the film but i could kind of understand the decision-making process i thought and then obviously the rest happened um and it got much much worse but i saw now also like everyone else as you say everyone else is also playing so much on just memberberry iconography stuff that it ceases to like the strategic thing and it's more just laziness at that point i saw someone saying i watched in a video and i was kind of convinced that uh tron legacy is the force awakens before the force awakens and i saw them all compare them and i was like oh shit that's kind of true like in terms of the approach they made the film with um okay yeah that film did tron legacy sort of regurgitate what the first tron did is that what they're kind of saying it was um that was supposed to be at least from the evidence they presented the video this is so long ago that i watched this um they tried to argue in the video that it was disney's attempt making what force awakens ended up being before that as in like this is going to launch a big franchise but it didn't do well and they were like oh fuck abandon ship quickly so that we can move on to the next i think i understand what you mean because like tron legacy led with a lot of like it led with the bikes the bikes happened really early on because that's like the thing that everybody remembers yeah i'd say that tron legacy is a more imaginative film than tfa tron legacy took more risks i remember liking it i don't remember yeah it stands up but um the style was really interesting looking for them the style was definitely cool but like they introduced a bunch of like new conceptual stuff into like we're going to call it the tron verse or something but you know you have the the iso creatures like sentient digital things which they didn't do anything with because they were wiped out but it took more imaginative leaps with its story than tfa did certainly i would say sorry yeah so uh yes what i was getting at in terms of what he implies this is the end of the paragraph he says it was so refreshing to once again see a star wars movie with entertaining likeable characters so obviously name one well you probably need the whole case what he's saying of course is that the prequels had no entertaining or likable characters which is just not true come on that's not true that's not true i'd be hilarious i think i think fucking jar jar was added today to use holy stupid of shit absolutely palpatine yes i mean count dooku count dooku um good old general gravis was cool like it's yeah that's at least there were superficially cool things about it even if you drew the line there yeah what the prequels had that the sequels absolutely do not is that almost everyone who saw them like you know it's kind of shitty but i'd like to see more of count dooku i'd like to see more of general gravis i'd like to see more of darth maul i'd like to see more of the clone wars but like good can you give me that because this looks interesting nobody says i gotta see another po dabbard adventure give me that please the prequels presented much more fertile ground for like in terms of world building it's really fertile ground there's like a lot of things that you can do in that world that they did do through video games and stuff that was really cool whereas the sequel era is like it's salted it's really hard to grow anything out of that era yeah they're almost like polar opposites for world building if you think of the opening of phantom menace which you don't ever expect the star wars opening crawl to start talking about tax disputes and train reform laws and all the rest of that stuff but it's laying groundwork that allows the rest of the expanded universe from that point to pick up and tell more interesting stories with the world that's being created and then tfa comes along and then tlj after it it's just like yeah there was a new republic for a bit and it's it's kind of gone and the first order is just the empire again now they've been around apparently oh absolutely what happened when you really consider force awakens as it shrunk the universe hard core the problem with the prequels was like look at all of this galaxy wide conflict like whoa and then it's like you can find out more in books or maybe in you know third-party elements or shows but the movies themselves are not going to cover a huge amount of what's going on there but you'll keep you'll see it out the window and it'll look cool and you're like oh that does look cool the sequels were like everything mostly takes place like on a selection of what was tlj covered like one two planets maybe well i guess you'd have three right with cancer four it was four so let me be clear right so the the chase happens from the original planet that we don't even get to like it's it's a whatever it's like a port it's barely anything then you have counterbiting the side story that most people think should be cut then you have great which is the most important planet but it's mainly a battle scene great it's not like just just i'm getting out like it doesn't feel compared to like for instance in and or where it's like oh ferricks you've got like a really really comprehensive view of that place you know even like more lana one which you only see a couple of times you get a real sense of place from that one to one to go back to the ot right i think a best bin same deal best bin occupies what like the third act a bit of the second act but like you get to see life on best bin then it becomes very relevant plot wise and then an escape scene is in best like everyone knows best bin i mean like if i most people know craig's it's like a meme planet in terms of all the shit that happened on there like the love thing did kill what you protect what you loved or what you hate whatever so it has to keep going back to tatooine yeah um why does it keep going back it's like well because you get a really good sense of place in a new hope of what tatooine is and then and they don't know how to build worlds or at least most of these projects don't seem to be able to build them come like how much do we know about that planet that they went to in a soca for that episode you know the building planet which one oh karelia was that karelia yeah we we saw karelia in um solo movie as well you can pick up a lot of stuff not karelia but you wouldn't get it from a soca itself that's right i forgot um what about the what about the planet with the red trees what do we learn about that place uh the the the planet where the whales come whatever yeah that's right the star well nothing nothing about the life there only it's a forest mm-hmm how much do we learn about um about the planet that they went to get sabine from the one with the city there that had uh that had um mr crabs what do we know about that place yeah that's probably the most we know from this planet she she lives very far away from the city in a tower until the tower is closer well i don't know it's just you know alzani and uh and andor we we got like a good sense of a very specific part of that planet and like the interactions between the empire and the local people there as well as the strategic importance of that planet in the uh in the empire and that's like three episodes and we'll probably never go there again it can it's yeah it's pretty funny when you compare it to what were the planets in the rise of sky walker what were they uh mustafar one of the earlier ones that nobody knew that was mustafar all right it's on it somehow all right that is what kyla was to collect dav vaders uh waypoint finder whatever the fuck it was is that the same oh yes that is the move what it is yeah he does i forgot and there's people to this day sharing that as an awesome move he was gonna moonwalk it'd be so fucking stupid why would you move down down down down down down down down down oh that's the that this is a different song let's beat it okay i just wanted to do a mecha jackson reference he's he's had alcohol rags let him that's good that's good that's good i've done the one silver as well fuck you you're a star wars oh i'm sorry i didn't mean that rags trust there's there's the desert planet with the happy aliens oh yes the one where they find our lando or lando finds that oh my god yeah do they fly now planet that's right i mean i remember there was a time which has a planet surface which is principally made up of star destroyers yes even under the foundations of the planet constructed of star destroyers fuck you know all right we get to destroyers all the way down we got one paragraph left it was wonderful seeing han solo grace the screen again and the film wisely makes use of him and the rest of the original cast teasing us in enticing ways by killing him it's enticing to him because he wanted to die yeah that makes sense the force awakens leaves us wanting more which is exactly what it should do impressive abram's most impressive i'm pretty sure jj abrams will come out eventually and say that star wars was a huge mistake that he shouldn't have taken that job and it will be very funny and we will all laugh i don't even dislike him that much but it's just such shallow writing like that what you just fair enough fair enough but i'm just saying moller doesn't give you taiko itt times i was never really that sort of but like when i when i when i hear sentences like that it's just like you are just writing fluff like surface fluff to sort of distract people to avoid actually diving into what actually makes this film good or bad or whatever right like it's just it's a dodge also that bugs me about it it's actually interesting to bring up taiko because um part of what makes me really annoyed is that i know he's capable of really good shit but he's like lazy and fucking around because he's doing the thing of being like star wars that's not art i'll get the money marvel that's not art whatever oh i can make my own movie where i care and like do blah blah blah and it's like fuck you man why can't you like put more effort in and actually especially taking care of something that people care about that'd be nice and then you know jj abrams is not quite the same beast this is a guy who just looking back on his whole career i'm starting to wonder because it was funny alias comes up ever once in a while and it's like what's alias about it's like well there is a series of magical items that belong to someone who built them years ago that no one understands what they do or what they're gonna lead to and i was like oh shit that's like it's like your magical boxes there's like what's lost primarily about it's like an island that no one knows why it's here what it does ultimately that it's mysterious it has loads of unanswered questions about who's there what's happened it's notoriously known as one of the worst ending like seasons of television ever it's like fuck like he really is consistent um the i think the wildest one was rewatching mission impossible three where the the item in that film that's so important that everyone's after and all doing kinds of things that nobody knows what it actually does it's like fucking hell he keeps doing it how can he keep getting away with it and i guess that the thing is that with the rise of skywalker he was forced to answer questions that he raised as well as follow a story that ignored a lot of his material and then it just revealed what kind of storyteller he is which is not one he's he can't do it he just can't do it he can't i mean if you can't end a story like i mean what are you you know like it's a storyteller if you can't complete stories if you can only start them and pass them to other people have to sort through your mess well and so what's funny is we do the meme because i just wanted to that you can't keep getting away with it but the thing he didn't he didn't get away with it this time you know i guess he got away with it in terms of making a lot of fucking money yeah but um it looks like he's not making anything anymore he's had that thing that like deal with warner brothers for like the last four years to make a bunch of dc stuff and he hasn't made anything nothing is materialized and i guess he'll probably walk away from that deal with a bunch of money but i doubt he'll get another one like that again which yeah i guess that's you know who's next mentally um uh i'm just taking a look at the list here to see what what does he say for what does he say about no country for old men no boy did you pick that i want to know i haven't seen a one in a long time but i'm scared wait what year did that come out that was 2007 okay doki i thought it would be much older to be honest i don't know why such a fucking good movie let's see what i want to see what he has unfortunately for no country for old men it only earned one page from mr stuckman not to be only wow so he had more to say about the force awakens than no country brought dude he loved the force away i think i can understand that there's an element of no country for old men that i would almost want to be kind of brief with it so that you can so you kind of go in with the sense of discovering what it's about and trying to say if that makes sense understand what you're saying rags i do understand it but i don't know if that was his motivation i want to refer to oh yeah yeah i'm not saying that this is what he did no no no no no but yeah so we just pointed out you already had two pages for tfa because i was just bitching about people hate it which yeah that's true that's true it is in a matter of sense when you write in a book of recommendations really weird to spend most of your reviews saying like fucking people didn't understand this like science or you shouldn't be doing that you should be just like this movie is awesome who cares whatever people were saying at the time i wrote this i'm just saying it's awesome anyway no country for old men 2007 director joel and ethan cohen starring tomie lee jones habie badam and josh brolin studio miramax films the cohen brothers have always been universally talented their understanding of screwball comedy and tense drama has impressed me for years you may think i've included no country for old men in this book simply out of obligation yes as if that's just one of the movies that has to be discussed you're not going to discuss it but of course it's on here disgusting as a strong word the thing about it is there's a lot of movies that i think should have been on this list that haven't made it and i would recognize that just from the fact that i can see certain movies on here that i'm like how did they see even make it on here like um or all the the fincher movies from 2000 to 2016 we're sorry um the social network was 2010 um girl with the dragon tattoo the girl with the dragon tattoo would be included in this gone girl would be eligible too because of the force awakens is and that includes 24 shows zodiac out of all of them it's like which um out of all of them i would not have chosen so yeah i would have chosen if i had to pick one and be like the social network or gone girl if i had to include him from the 2000s social networks my favorite yeah yeah i'm not sure which is my favorite i fucking love his work though it's shit um oh yeah anyway uh but on the contrary i had a very love hate relationship with this film at first oh is he gonna say the thing that everyone who doesn't like this movie says i didn't like the ending i didn't even know what the people said about that so i'm curious well so i mean to explain what i'm trying to say before we read on is the everyone who doesn't like no country for old men the first thing they'll say is i don't know that ending wasn't very good the ending was bad it was you know you set up this whole plot of like you know hero versus villain and then you have it all end off screen that's i don't know about that i don't know i didn't like that really liked it up to then but didn't like that that's the thing that's what everyone says and uh well let's uh let's see this we're done with first paragraph out of three we're on to the second one now i think it's reviews it's it's like oh so annoying i came close to hating no country upon my first viewing i'm sure the ending had something to do with that but i also found the film painfully boring is this another bladerunner situation oh no is it bladerunner but then i watched 17 more times yeah but as weeks went on i recall not being able to remove the film from my mind to my surprise i discovered a desire to watch it again and eventually i did you know where that desire came from looking online for people who hate it being like oh shit everyone liked it fuck uh i can't have my own opinion what oh god it is bladerunner third paragraph here we go with that second viewing and the subsequent watches in future i began to notice so much that i'd miss the first time and grew to deeply respect the filmmaking and the gorgeous cinematography no country you notice normally the gorgeous cinematography is something you notice the first time even if you don't like it we're halfway through the paragraph we're running out of time from to tell us what's good about the movie okay let's go with that and then i'll here we go my thoughts no country for old men is one of those rare films that seems to grow and change every time you watch it for that reason alone it deserves to be in this book oh he doesn't even to summarize the assessment of no country for old men just to be quick here is is the you know i didn't like it at first but then i did it's good yeah basically yeah no elaboration to yeah like this should be such an easier thing to fill pages with so you could go and he's like oh i watched it for the first time and i kind of already almost hated it and i but then i just thought about it and uh i don't know why and then you i watched it again it's like oh now i like it a bit better okay now you tell me why you liked it better you can just tell me what were you what was your thought process that's like an easy thing you can just write that's like five six seven eight pages you can easily write about that thought process alone and then at the end you can go like okay i thought i'd appreciate what was going on there and i actually understood what was going on like why why why do you keep it so short i don't understand metal if you think about it too right on rewatches what changed according to him what he what he referenced specifically was that um he began to notice so much and then he said the filmmaking and cinematography that's two things that you would almost certainly appreciate a good deal of it it's not even that it's filmmaking is way too broad i don't even know what he's referring to exactly filmmaking that's all of it and then cinematography which i think most would argue has been mentioned that's one of the things you'd pick up first time around compared to a lot of other things no mention of the intention writing the the themes obviously that the the the the subversive elements that the coins are fucking is practically stitched into their artistic merit is that they subvert that's like their whole thing if you're gonna watch them or fincher because we mentioned them recently you should expect an ending that's going to throw you off that's what always happens yeah i will say like maybe this is partially in stuckman's defense but like the first time i watched no country for old men i overall liked the movie but i didn't like the ending and then as i rewatched it now it's one of my favorite movie endings of all time because i understand now what it was doing sort of at this illustration of a man who feels so out of place and uh he's feels like that the world is sort of evolving without him he has no guiding marker he has no mentor and uh as a cop it's like crime is evolving to this point where it's just like i don't even know what to do how to behave he's used to small town stuff he's getting this huge violent and intricate like all kinds of insane shit happening he's not ready for it's not the world he belonged to it's a it's an amazing film uh honestly i should we should pray a bit more when we get the chance on the one of course there's a version of you build up um anton as this unstoppable like almost supernatural force that's pursuing josh brolin and you're so focused on that that it almost makes you forget about the other people who are also looking for the money to where it's like oh shit yeah like he's dead because there were other people who were trying to get him and of course he is because what chance did he really have of succeeding here when he had this many people gunning for him like that's that's a bold choice um it's very uncommon it's very subversive i love the POV of um tomaley jones' character entering the final battle post battle and exactly what the fuck has happened here jesus this is insane how is this even happening i'm not ready for it like all of it comes so into focus and then of course it's changing the fact that anton is defeated by bad luck potentially potentially defeated by it because we don't know for sure but that the person who's been this incredibly calculating operator throughout the whole film incredibly precise seemingly the world didn't his control almost but then oh yeah car crash because the world is not in your control the world is on a stop sign they are unpredictable yeah so it happens when you're on a stop sign in a suburb and uh and it's just like well that's really cool and that's absolutely elements that rewatching films can be like illuminating but the problem with yes it's like if you don't explain what it was that you noticed why you maybe didn't notice it the first time around without like the explanation it just comes across as right it's a movie that you were supposed to like you don't like it and that was like untenable uh so you have to keep rewatching and rewatching and rewatching until you could justify to yourself that you liked it because in the absence of any arguments what am i supposed to conclude about what you actually think about the film yeah i mean i just had that with the killer because we uh moller and i rewatched it because he asked me what do you like about it i did a bit of the uh pause every five minutes and talk about it format oh yeah i mean i love it because i already liked it a lot just just on on it being like a cool action thriller kind of dealio but i didn't even pick up on all the actual things that are going on and then we went through it again it's like oh shit this is like even better now yeah that's a because even with films that you get first time around rewatching and then seeing all of the scenes that play out and knowing where it's going to end when you can see that guiding when you can see the direction that's all heading it'll be like oh i okay yeah yeah oh wow yeah i didn't notice that first time around oh yeah cool but again it's like what's meaningful is not just saying i rewatched it and i liked it what's meaningful is i rewatch it and then i noticed this which explains this or um emphasizes strengths and bolsters this element of the plot no no yeah no no i liked it more then it's just always good to see that it can go both ways like rewatching it just gets worse but there's also movies you rewatch them it's like oh it actually got better now it's always nice to see that seems to be kind of like the way it goes is that good films when you notice that it's improving it's like oh shit all right so awesome someone just mentioned the film is great but the off-screen stuff still stinks how would the film not be better if it was not off-screen so i think maybe this can be illustrated by uh and i guess spoilers but since me bringing rags and metal of all completed slash checked out what happens in it godwall ragnarok valhalla uh we did a stream trolley on the entire story for ragnarok you can check that out this is an older e-fab but we're probably not going to do a dedicated one to talk about that dlc however something that came up and me and fringy talked about this offline so i wouldn't mind making it an online thing now by mentioning it uh when i was completing it uh and i think for fringy too i'm not sure about metal maybe um so when in chat suggested like wouldn't it have been really cool slash depending on what chatter we had really bad uh really good whatever to have new north kratos that you're playing fight young og kratos as a representative of his life that he's trying to move past something like that and um i think i said on my stream that i trust the people who make this so much that i would have been um the spoiler i'm technically delivering here is that you don't fight him so don't worry too much about spoilers i'm not gonna i'm trying to actually no wait mute this for 10 minutes 10 minutes oh god i want to be free to be able to talk about it i'm sorry but so like yeah uh the the nature of whether or not he could fight him i said basically that um it could work and i trust the people who make this to make it meaningful one way or the other um however you know i spoke to fringy about it i think your reaction was more so like no no no i don't think i think we don't want to have them fight and uh i'll let you do you want to do your reasoning first as to why we wouldn't want to fight so to me it shows a remarkable amount of restraint to not have them fight because that just seems like the obvious pathway of he is defeating his older self who um and and like removing him from who he is whereas really like a lot of what valhalla is presenting is kratos needs to take on a more broad all-encompassing perspective on who we used to be rather than just strictly focusing on all of the obvious bad things that he did and the obvious bad motivations behind it of like lust for power um and ambition informing a lot of his actions when much more so like what tir is trying to present to him is is more complicated than that there were things where like uh the one that seemed really stark was why did you take the deal with aries it's like why ambition i wanted to be super duper powerful it's like well what would have happened if the barbarians won what would have happened if you died is like well the barbarians would have killed everybody they would have like over on spada and killed everybody including his family ah so like what is happening there is that you're loading so much of why you didn't like the decision you made uh based on the consequences of that choice rather than also taking into account whatever merit there may have been to the choice as well sure there might have been ambition but there was also a desire to save people you need to you need to essentially over the course of of valhalla it's all about trying to more appropriately incorporate his perspective on who his past self was into the way that he moves forward because his past self is a part of him it is a part of him and it informs the choices that he makes and it's clearly a source of a lot of um trepidation and concern of taking on the mantle of uh like god of war and becoming like a leader again essentially the same way that he did at the end of the first game and he's gone onward um and that what he needs to do is like uh kind of like radical self-acceptance of who he was as something that informs the decisions he makes but isn't going to define the decisions that he makes and i think that the idea of well you need to kill your past self you need to like fight him and destroy him would run contrary to the point that is trying to be built up by the force of the doc which is he was you you're not him but you kind of are you need to understand that that's who you are incorporated into who you are uh and move forward regardless with some amount of optimism you don't you are not going to make the same mistakes again i think fighting his old self would have been more in line with the old Kratos and not the new one the yes i think the acceptance that he and that old person are not like because i i quite find valhalla so fucking important now to the meta discussion of what god of war as a franchise has become like that dlc basically says like yeah it's it's norse kratos and greek kratos and the dlc basically says like no they're the same guy they've just uh it's incorporated all of the perspectives he's shared and experienced across all games is all who he is right now and that that's what that that last monologue which i recommend everyone check out whether or not you want to play the game fully it's fucking great check it out it's awesome where he you know he starts out almost like ashamed and angry at his old self but he realizes pretty quickly that uh and it's through all the things we discover because one as was mentioned with um the the nature of the deal he makes with aries is also how he does like the approach and the perspective he has on his um which which game was it the the second psp game which is fucking amazing that they incorporate all this shit but um he's got all this he's got something unresolved with helios helios is showing up as a replacement for mamiir and he's making fun of you and you're having a back and forth and it's like this is valhalla it's very likely a projection of your insecurity related to what you did to helios which is rip his fucking head off and you know the game uses the history it's like you know he saved your life and you've had interactions that relate to him that is clearly something unresolved and helios says some of the most like critical things of kratos in that dlc um that again i recommend everyone play but the the thing that tia tells you once you defeat him uh for that i think that's the third time possibly the second time is that it's like wait in that dlc you you essentially gave your life to restore the sun when it was taken down by the fact that um more orpheus i think kidnapped helios um i can't remember the exact name but it's it's kind of a it's a bit of a goofy plot what you have to do but they've contextualized again that's like wait that was really good and then kratos is like yeah but that was that was before i ripped off helios's head and it's like well yeah but you don't discount that that's meaningful that matters that's something you did that was really important and really good why do you always focus why are you always talking about all the horrible things you did and it's like well you well yeah and so yeah i i i'm inclined morpheus sorry morpheus morpheus um so i'm very unstoppable i'm very inclined to agree that fighting uh old kratos would miss the point but at the same time and there's something that i was talking to bring about was you can contextualize it probably you'd need to have to have it happen relatively early in the dlc but if you were to fight him and you could even have it be the the more you fight him the more his health keeps increasing the more damage he deals and then you get a chance maybe to end his life and he's like he just you know poofs into it an existence and then tear is like is this what you want like what do you why is this even how you know and it can be the opening to understanding something which is you don't want to fight him you don't want to defeat or destroy him you want to understand him what he's about what you know it would only ever be contextualized as a mistake i'm having a big old brain blast though because if you are the thing with valhalla it's like you said with helios it's not actually helios it's kratos's perception of helios yeah what he would say to him when he was here right now yeah but but not but not necessarily a true reflection of helios that's where the harshest criticism comes from is his uh assess yeah his what which strictly is from himself yeah if you think the reason why i'm wrong is the talking head for that which is interesting is that if they wanted to have it be that you fought and killed kratos old kratos it would be on the premise that you're destroying a conception of him that you have in your mind there's not an accurate representation of who that guy was that could be like a way that i could see them contextualizing it is like this is who you think he is not who he actually is that could be like one angle that you could go with but like personally i do really like the idea of not fighting i think it shows a remarkable amount of restraint because could you imagine how fucking hype that would be yeah i was like old kratos getting out of his chair pulling out his blades like the blades of chaos and then the music running in the middle of the fight he runs off to open a chest in the same style as he does in greek and like all those little health blobs about i mean that wouldn't be as impactful there's so many things in the in the steel c was like oh do you remember these meme scenes that you all laugh about where you press circle to abandon your daughter yeah that's like actually meaningful now and emotional it's like what yeah and for the record the argument is dead that the greek the greek games are disrespected by the norse ones it's over yeah absolutely not the valhalla game is basically said the greek games are misunderstood and awesome as far as i'm concerned that's pretty much what it says it just how it ends as well like if you compare how old kratos like greek kratos and quotations sitting in the in the throne when he gets in there and then the current kratos like sits in there like with confidence because the old kratos is just like they're boars like i don't actually want to be here and then the the when when you get in that in that chair he's like sitting there with like a like a posture and meaning it's like you know what actually kind of want to sit here for a while like this is this might be for me actually well and we said i don't i don't see how you do god of war anymore without mimea i want to i want to see mimea in egypt talking to anubis oh yeah that's what it looks like when mimea is in an environment that he's not so familiar with yes and so the uh this this i remember there's a video that even synthetic man said was like really good which was the it was always dpu cowards or whatever i think that's the title of it and it's like as far as i'm concerned valhalla has basically come full circle that uh we're not ignoring they did the thing that um it's like the positive version of what the sequels were doing where they were like stay away from the prequels they're embarrassing a lot of people took that from 2018 it's like they didn't even mention the greek era really there's only a couple of references it's like no it's just representative of how much kratos has ran away and ignored and tried to become a new guy but by the time you hit the end of valhalla the lesson is like to incorporate it to understand that you were not a monster it was not that simple and it's really cool to have tier be the one that that sort of facilitates all this change and introspection because a lot of people said like it's kind of unfortunate we didn't get the god of war from the north era to have his sort of say and his impact on the story but now we do we get him we get to fight him with like aztec ejection from japan he's like all these different weapons so cool dude all of his travel because that's a possibility what if it is like kratos mimir and tier tier as the guide since he went to different realms and interact with different pantheons as part of attempts to rehabilitate kratos' reputation because what if the perspective in egypt is kratos didn't save the north mythology he killed odin and you served as authority and took it over for himself because that's what kratos does he's a destroyer it kind of it does look bad from the outside from the outside and that's a good way to try and create more conflict maybe you have a couple of pantheons teaming up like dude we got to stop this guy yeah this guy's going crazy now over there egypt and ruin everything too so that's our review of no country for old man yes free dlc free it's free guys and it took me like eight hours to get a war it's so good i love it it's pretty good man give me more go to war merge so in general string of video games yeah they're fun i believe we have done myself metal rags and fringies rags and me oh boy j longboat little platoon and john anyone of you three want to pick the next one oh by the way chat you're free to free to come back now we're done with the yeah spoiler over because efeb hasn't spent enough time on this recently and i want to find out how vapid he is on the subject how about return of the king oh okay not a bad choice not a bad choice will he say something like it brilliantly caps off a brilliant film trilogy and a good film that is good made me feel emotions oh only one page for return of the king oh shit it was one of those things how it's so long how it's about it he's gonna talk about the trilogy as well probably right i don't know all right here we go lord of the rings the return of the king 2003 you're gonna say golem sometimes when you say that and you say the lord of the ring that's what we're gonna do in golem how are you traumatized by golem you only had to have to play it right when my friend is suffering in the next room and i hear the screams that gives me trauma director peter jackson starring elijah wood ian mckellan and live tyler oh that's the three okay that's a strange i mean that it's not a lie it's just a bad choice i mean you think vigo would make it to the third credit wouldn't you okay john wick vigo not that vigo no okay studio wingman films the word epic overused as the term may be was invented to describe movies like the return of the king oh sorry you put return of the king here he didn't put the ver in there damn um and it's even in um in italics to represent it's a movie title italian every shot in peter jackson's magnificent finale to his beloved lord of the ring trilogy reflects a perfect bond between filmmaker and source material somehow a movie over three hours long is that tears by okay hairs by that's a strength yeah i'm not heard that i've heard it i've heard of used in the context of here going past something very quickly like you're tearing past also i wouldn't i wouldn't use that to describe the film i don't think it feels like it goes by quickly i think it feels like it goes by just right effectively yeah like you're you're a part it makes it feel big is the fact that it moves with its runtime i would say i mean we described as we're watching this kind of perfectly paced but i know a lot of people don't feel that way and that's okay um yeah he says somehow a movie over three hours long tears by with your sore ass being the only indication of times passage what what's wrong does he's does he have bad chairs what you're sorry what a what a terrible return of the game i think it's already a third of the way through plenty more condensing to paragraph my ass here but the film is okay i knew it was long because my butt hurt and is like what are we describing your your experimental college years or are we talking about a movie that's it's weird because when it wasn't a cinema so there were still breaks in between movies at least for me i remember there was a break like after like two two two hours or something and when you're yeah i was just gonna say like sore butt jokes i feel like only apply to theatrical releases like if you're streaming something at home or playing it on like you know an extended version dvd or whatever blu-ray you can pause it right you can get up stretch if you want and then play it again so like i don't know what he's referring to here specifically it sounds like i missed something i was just getting some coffee what sounds like i missed a really funny line well he made a sore butt joke and i don't know if that he's talking about the extended editions or the theatrical edition i think i don't think the theatrical edition of return of the king was three plus hours because he said over three hours long tears by you'd be saying four hours if it was the extended okay so what is the sentence is somehow a movie over three hours long tears by with your sore ass the only indication of time's passage okay that's a okay i think it's the use of that really doesn't help it feels like oddly crude oddly yes that's the way for um fellowship go ahead just a bit of a brief tangent but i just realized it's like oh he's got no dream works films on his list either no shrek uh or country panda oh you think shrek would be on here my mission you would think that at least shrek if he was gonna one of the anime ones though for his animated movies which all right well i mean i think spirited away is totally fair to be on the list too but i'm surprised that there is no shrek on there anyway well what context are we talking about here because too much of a meme he can't put that on his list oh just just like a 50 films from the 2000s to watch it's like well shrek is really great and influential so like that makes sense to me as one to throw on there and put it on my list yeah hello and i'm not the film connoisseur craftsman that he is well we're learning to become one today from this book true i have much to learn all right so fellowship and towers are both wondrous achievements but return captured the looming sense of dread and finality at last providing closure to the journey of jr tolkin's famous heroes and villains wow so i guess tolkin didn't do it but the films did all right then tolkin's like what are you talking about would you see that way return he keeps referring them just by the feeling i guess that's fine you know return harnessed a powerful emotional wallop somehow making every scene feel grander than the last is it possible to harness a wallop i don't know oh yeah some countries have actually transitioned to a wallop based economy can i harness a wallop google would know in hindsight it's amazing that the trilogy turned out as well as it did jackson filmed his opus back to back to back which in the past has proven to be a terrible idea matrix reloaded in revolutions anyone what the hell past that was after he did that yeah what a terrible example i think it's hardly unacclavable why would you say wow the matrix was filmed afterward so there's no precedent you can't cite that as a precedent it happened after he did it it's a it's a post-cident post-cident um wait remind me when did matrix come out matrix so matrix came out in 99 but revolutions and reloaded was like 2003 they were done after water the rings water the rings was filmed in 1999 and 2000 so you know what i mean how are you citing like ah yes filming back to back is uh a risky as demonstrated by a film that came out after you did this yeah i'm pretty sure because revolution's are both considered bad while matrix was filmed on its own separated from them you know what i mean meanwhile like these three were filmed together so like it doesn't i'm pretty sure when the when the first matrix was made they had no intention at the time of making proper course not because of the success of the first movie the studio was just like yeah let's turn this into a couple sequels at least right i suppose the the point would be that citing something that happened afterward as the precedent for why it was risky to shoot lord of the rings concurrently oh he explains funny there's one line here to explain what he's discovered through matrix reloading revolutions and that what he he believes i suppose that uh lord of the rings the trilogy avoided here comes this is the sentence it's hard to correct one's movies mistakes or sorry one movie's mistakes when you're already filming the next one um i mean in the same sense that it's apparently difficult to fix problems within a film while you're shooting that film yeah that would be the same thing i make a lot of sense not really because you can just do reshoots yeah all the actual difference would be is that it they it's longer as a process as much as you can admit like well yeah but you you can't make changes in sort of a retcon way to film one with film two a film two has already been filmed it's like well yeah i i guess the counter argument would be that if the film already exists you can't change that film at all well i suppose the irony is that um you can go the opposite direction in the if lord of the rings was filmed and then released and then filmed and then released it might have been that fan reactions to the fellowship might have damaged two towers in return to the king you never know precious can go in both directions yeah that's true that's totally true so um kind of a silly point uh it kind of depends on the film well and it's like wait what are we doing again it's like oh sorry we're three quarters of the way through a review of the return of the king and it's talking about how it's it's not necessarily good to film multiple films in a trilogy or series back-to-back he well he's almost suggesting that it's bad to do back-to-back filming which is like what yeah i i'm a little he's talking about fellowship there he's trying to make sorry was was he talking about fellowship of the ring there here's the trilogy the trilogy yeah the whole trilogy the fact that it was shot concurrently yeah that that was like that that was maybe a potentially bad idea that that if anything a transcended being shot back-to-back when that was obviously the the intention to do it that way which is really what's funny or unless i could make it is the trusted wisdom at this point most people say like you should encourage the filming of like a franchise concurrently somewhat if you can you know in the context of something like Lord of the Rings yes make them together because obviously what happened with the sequel right that was horrendous i was going to bring that up yeah you on the one hand he's talking about the perils of filming back-to-back but the sequel trilogy which one of which at least he's praised probably is all of the perils of not doing it that way you've got too much time to try and take account of fan criticism shift directors shift writing direction i assume that he is not planning to rewatch the force awakens again his entire life even though he watches it every year with this well this is a part of a phenomenon that we've commented on and it both sucks and is awesome the cultural community aspect the social aspect of film watching or rather either media enjoyment or consumption where i was saying this before but wouldn't really cool for some of our favorite stuff to have come out at a time more so like this where we all get to talk about it and make videos on it and have back and forth to everybody and discuss it and stuff versus like take Lord of the Rings for example how fucking cool would it have been and also painful you have to wait the whole year for the next one and then talk about it and wait the whole year you know what i mean like all of us talking about it that would be really cool but at the same time it like that sort of engagement i think this is most illustrated by game of thrones i don't know people saw the videos but they would go viral a lot of people in a bar this particular bar where everybody would be watching the episodes and they would like there's this big reveal like the red wedding i think is where it first started to get traction the whole bar is like oh my god and people are crying and going oh i can't believe this and then every season had at least one but up to like five of those moments and then that would be shared everywhere we we've seen it i mean my video with the star wars stuff covered at this reaction meta we're like it goes from being a kind of cool thing that we're all sharing to a thing that everyone's pursuing and a thing that a lot of people convert it into the enjoyment of the thing itself the problem is it doesn't age with the thing itself the thing itself stays the same you watch that again 10 years later and it is what it is you now don't have the crowd the culture all of the atmosphere that you had when you first saw it and so a lot of people go wait a minute this isn't this isn't as good as when i first saw it damn it's like yeah because a lot of it was you enjoying it with other people you celebrating it with other people and i feel like that's what happened with the force awakens to a lot of an extent certainly abnegame of thrones in retrospect a lot of people don't have good things to say about anything past season four as a whole like this this highlights but there's a lot of stuff where people are just like i remember i'm going nuts i remember enjoying it a hell of a lot which was fun and i was going to say it would have been cool to have this with films that like we adore like lord of the rings also hi as how you doing right hey hey yo we're reading chris duckman's reviews of movies it's been very entertaining and insightful yeah the the lateness of the join oh yeah you gotta you're gonna have to choose from the list of 50 what you want me to read out and don't worry if you pick one that we've read already i'll just redirect you just gonna tell you we've done suck we've done signs uh the force awakens no country for old men what did you choose mel incredible incredible and we're currently on return of the king um do i i just select anything well select one that you would like to hear his opinion on something maybe that means something to you in some way um there's a imdb link in the in the chat to ronnie you can you can click on but yeah i still i just i stand by the nature that um it's a really cool aspect to share everything with everybody but at the same time it like completely skews one's view of a thing to the point where later on they're like wait why did i feel that way about it it's like you forgot you were watching it with a whole bunch of people and that everyone loved it at the time we saw this with marvel um over time it just like every movie that came out people were going nuts over it and then like the half life decreased and decreased and decreased to the point now where it's gone wasn't it um love and thunder that was the first one we noticed we were like whoa the switch on that was quick yeah it's yeah it took a few months yeah it took a few months for moon night and yeah it's all love and thunder is like within the week people already turned on it because the marvel um train the marvel momentum was going crazy and quick but then it just died out um we saw it die out over time but even like black widow was like no it was awesome it was great and it was really cool to see the backstory and you know scolch handsome did a great job and then everyone should check it out and it's like what the fuck that one was terrible so but it's all stopped now like the marvels the fucking hell people talked about that for 12 minutes people decided that was over before it came out let's be honest even even fucking marvel decided that was over before it came out that quote came out right the ice skate quickly over thin ice or whatever so it's really hard to do group react content when there's only two people in the cinema for it so it's never gonna be yeah we made jokes about that the two people entered they're like are you reviewing this for youtube it was like yeah you yeah tick tock you're like okay let's set together you want a beer marvels when we both know that i'm doing critical reviews anyway so and one of them is like that was awesome it's like you're dead to me so anyway to continue the final paragraph of his review of the return of the king yet by some miracle jackson barely missed a step return of the king won 11 oscars an unprecedented feat for a fantasy blockbuster two words that academy members seem to loathe to this day it's one of the highest ranked on imdb and it's still visually spectacular 13 years after its release it is you didn't say anything about why is good he just said it's good no he just said it's really good that why well because there's four paragraphs but he spent well here's the thing i'm talking about how it shouldn't have been good i don't know i mean chris needs to understand that when he makes these lists that the fact that it's on the list is already the implication it's good and we should see yeah so you don't have to spend all that time in the little tiny blurb you give to just say that what was the one we read that implied that he was talking to someone who'd seen the film was it incredible's we're just talking about it as though people had seen it was rags pointed out i was like he hasn't even told us what the movie is yet and it's like no oh i could remember which film it was but it's just funny that he does this like it's like a list of movies you know you should see like what's the point of that all righty i suppose uh next suggestion we can go with uh j long bono john first i suppose uh i was gonna say the winter soldier oh sorry as i've been chosen now you gotta find something else i'm looking i'm looking i'm looking at the list right now do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do winter soldier we're gonna have more beer hmm the soldier's a winter i'm not gonna lie the soundtrack's pretty killer oh this one gets two pages well page in a bit whoa there you go that's like two and a half paragraphs or something all right captain america the winter soldier director anthony and joe rousseau starring chris evans samuel jackson scarlett Johansson studio marvel enterprises uh enterprises i think you mean marvel enterprises i've never heard it said i've never heard of enterprises before yeah i i don't think that it's has it ever been called i thought it was marvel entertainment was the company marvel enterprise maybe he put the wrong word in his book but i mean the studio was marvel studios um yeah and if he's talking about like the distributor that's disney hmm okay well i don't know what to tell you apparently oh okay so formally it was called marvel enterprises that's what it used to be called i just saw marvel entertainment l l three that's yeah oh someone said that's when paramount was still involved but this is 2014 so uh 2014 was when it was disney i'm pretty sure the winter soldier was just like distributed by disney whoops anyway here we uh let us begin growing up the idea of seeing my comic book heroes on the big screen seemed like a dream thanks to the success of films like iron man and the avengers that dream is a reality as much as i love the afo mentioned films though it was captain america the winter soldier oh no it says captain america the winter solider no this is your book that's a big squiggly would have saved you chris that that could happen all right that can't happen that can't happen i first can we know it could happen because i just highlight that it happened yes we believe the reality oh no well i'll just uh i'll post it to you it'll be a solider i love that movie we were soliders it was uh it was really good solidest snake well the reason it's called that is because captain america had to take the super solider serum so the winter solider it's okay though it's fine captain america the winter solider has brought oh that brought harsh unforgiving realism to the marvel cinematic universe all right that's the intro next paragraph pretty harsh harsh unforgiving realism to the mcu is what he said yeah i you know i can well i am fine with that yes i get why he said it but i do agree that iron man already set that the tonic in his heart blown out was pretty you know the scene where he's like screaming and the surgery's happening that's pretty raw oh and even just uh when the blood starts to pull into his shirt you know like oh you know i'm i don't know if people talk about it that much but it's a bit of body horror when he wakes up and he sees that there's like the car battery hooked up to his heart it's like yeah oh yeah anyway in 2012 the avengers chris evans played the powerful super no fucking way oh you can see it in the image you can see it oh no he didn't he didn't just copy paste the tighter but he did it wrong the first time i was about to say i didn't realize i put it in the screen cap you guys can oh no i'm saying no oh no super solid or maybe he types in a certain way where is oh no you have to spell words correctly for your book chris but have you noticed the title is correct up the top yeah it is wrong twice leave him alone he just wants to make films okay type what he's writing a book can happen all right they can listen okay the the true take is we all do typos and we should all be made fun of when it happens that's how my book rags if you made a book and you made a typo i'd laugh at you but then i wouldn't consider you any less of a person i wouldn't be fucking i would commit sepuki i would be so ashamed i would commit suduki i would be so upset the thing is is typos typos do make their way in but two of the same one for the title of the movie the title of the film is a funny one i just think it's funny it's i love that it made it into that image even though i didn't intend for that at all he plays the super solid snake all right liquid or solid or gasser what did he mean chris evans played the powerful super solid from the comics shattering walls doorways and bones galore evans portrayal it's kind of weird to like present ah yeah captain america breaking bones it's like well i mean he's about meant to be presented as like some vicious like beating the shit out of people to a pulp you know it's captain america dude with that guy who he kicks uh off the boat that guy spine yeah that one brutal his spine is his spine is not not fine oh oh i've spotted something uh no i don't want to be the dick who points it out so someone else has got to do it okay is this another typo yes well so i'll read the sentence that i have noticed this i don't think it'll take you guys more in a second to spot it i was about to say evans is portrayal and the excellent script can you spot the problem come on i'm sliding give me a second now give me a fucking second here where where where where where super solid evans is portrayal and the excellent script where's the issue at least as far as i'm aware isn't it evans is yeah you don't put an ass after the apostrophe on a name that ends with that yes that one that one's actually like empowering that one's terrible that's really bad people at home can see when you do yeah evans is there shouldn't be an ass after the apostrophe that should be going yes and that's it that one's really bad there's another solida coming up but guys oh sweet no no no why is the winter soldier so horrifically risk-free there with the solida you see that yeah there it is i'm gonna leave without open actually okay can we officially then uh misname him cuckman what is he a cuck to spelling like punctuation uh the excellent script made captain america the most interesting avenger on the team okay i mean he's pretty good but i mean i am the most interesting i mean i that's an opinion that i'm fine with it that's a fine opinion that's a fine opinion might be in bamboozle here so there are a few people saying that it's acceptable to do the the apostrophe and then the s for a name that ends with an s i've always known it to be no additional ever known it to be that yeah you don't get to people's names yeah generally if you have a proper noun you don't want to add letters if you can avoid it is if the noun's plural or not so if the noun is plural and ends in s then you don't put an apostrophe after s if it would be like if it's multiple families of jacksons then it might do you might do that if it's if you're for yeah plural of a um capitalized or a proper noun that ends in s maybe like i have never known this but i've never known it just have a there's probably plenty of mistakes i would have missed because i'm no good with with england but uh this stuff like that i'm i raised questions a solider is easy for me to spot yeah especially three times in a row yeah what what i think is um everyone kind of has the little their own little quirks while typing because you know different keyboards different fingers that sort of thing um something that i do sometimes is the first two letters will be capitalized because i don't let off the shift yeah fast enough sometimes sometimes i've do that i've done that right and it's something i've kind of recognized and i watch out for um but maybe for him soldier is just one of those words where he hits the keys out of order yeah well i was going to say that i'm an anti-guide it's been too fast double checks these kind of things before you release a yeah the red because whenever i type writing is a good thing formal form sometimes i switch the uh the o and r because my fingers are competing with each other but yeah the point is you're supposed to find someone to prove this or even a machine should prove it right yeah just do you do spell check or whatever to keep making the same spelling mistake or yeah that's weird man three solid is just like an innocuous one i'm still stuck on the i'm stuck on the more than right apostrophe s i have never ever ever i didn't i've never ever ever ever heard of it of like doing me neither yeah we were always told if it's a yeah if it's a proper noun that ends in s then you just add the apostrophe like r a g s apostrophe if it's something that belongs to me so but it was r a g i don't know multiple apostrophes s that's true the more the merrier the more apostrophes the more only the more fun i have the more mistakes there are absolutely um i would need to read up on that shit because that's just not a thing and yeah like i said i've never known that rule but fair enough english is weird no just like the whole apostrophe with s yeah that's what i mean do that that's a funny one people sometimes make that error in speech sometimes like not written where it's just like chris evans is like they'll say that oh i see what you mean yeah like instead of saying chris evans the instead of chris evans yeah on the subject of marvel films nobody says marvel studios is they just say marvel studios but i'm pretty sure they marvel studios is already already a plural noun so it wouldn't be studios is whereas if it's singular i think it's permissible both ways in the case of evans is well but the singular marvel studios is the name like marvel studios so when they say there is a lot of videos but but they're doing the whole possessive it is marvel studios film right like that's the nature of the title be like you're about to watch marvel studios apostrophe like whatever the film is i'm pretty sure that's how they write it right i now i need to know that would be correct in that situation because the marvel studios is is a collective like plural noun for the group of studios under marvel so the apostrophe doesn't need an s after it because it's already lura i think i'm probably butchering this like i guess no what can shoot it's like plural of studios for a company like one company marvel studios is the company you know what i mean yeah i think fringy's trying to say like the company name is that and it's superseding any sense of it's a collective studios referral name it's just a company like it's strictly a company name it could it may not refer to anything other than the company not a selection of studios i guess kind of like how because again like insomniac games is marvel spider-man 2 like i imagine you don't duplicate the s if it's already there yeah fundamentally yeah i get what you're saying and the well this is the thing about english it creates complications when you have rules that have crossover the one that pissed me off as a kid and maybe really blackpilled me on english was um my dad told me i before he except have to see and then i encountered 17 different fucking exceptions i was like what the hell rule is this like what's the point doesn't help me at all it's more of a guideline than a rule no it's not it's not it's a it's really it's not something that i would ever tell anybody um because it's well it's weird uh to to say is a rule but yeah i i wouldn't i would just say just kind of you you'll learn over time you know you'll recognize which is which that one because i'm almost certain i'm dyslexic was a pain in the ass because i was like that one will help me because i can always rely on it and then i oh people can't tell me like you spell that wrong i was like but but i before you accept us and they're like no this is the one exception i was like one exception um man this is gonna drive me insane for the rest of the day this is gonna drive me mad i i don't know what to think anymore i feel like i've been i do feel like him because i've like i feel like now i'm just gonna have to read a bunch about like the use of apostrophes for s it's you've driven i think you're right yeah i it might be technically correct in some grammar book somewhere but i've always understood it the way that you understand it and i ain't fucking yeah that's why i highlighted it i thought that was definitively a mistake and when it's surrounded by soliders i was like well if you've got to be a mistake are there more are there are there more soldiers or soliders there's more soliders than soldiers oh no it's three soliders in a row chris no anyway let us continue no more man and i'm not doing this to make fun of him this is simply the next thing winter solider understood that cap's intense loyalty and unwillingness to betray his team traits most said made him a boring character with the qualities that made the event i'm sorry traits most said that made him a boring character he was awesome in adventures okay and in his own movie yeah and he said he was the most interesting so he only became the most interesting in this right didn't most people think captain america sucked was that a thing no i don't remember it i remember people liking the first captain movie people thought was lame yeah he got barely anything and then they overcompensate i remember that for sure but i thought most people picked between thor cap and iron man but the reality was it was really between cap and iron man and what's doubly strange about him saying that is that it implies that he thinks that captain america wasn't interesting until winter soldier because he said that he's the most interesting of the avengers now but now he's saying that he wasn't before so this is the movie that made him interesting the statements he's made here make it seem like he's the one he's the separate from the herd that that he the other people said that it made him boring but you know i don't know um with the qualities that made the avengers the best marvel film to that point wait i'm sorry let me read read this winter solider understood caps intense loyalty and unwillingness to betray his team traits the most said made him a boring character we're the qualities that made the avengers the best marvel film to that point oh i see that he's saying that other people are saying that that made him boring but that's not necessarily his perspective well there's also the other interesting comment that he's saying that what made the avengers the best marvel film at that point was caps loyalty and unwillingness to betray his unwillingness to betray his team when did that come up in avengers yeah um it's not like he was ever going to side with the team technically speaking you could argue he did betray his team but in a good way when he didn't sign up to the hydra weapons uh oh um yeah that he betrayed shield by looking into it when they obviously wanted to keep it secret and hang on a minute he does betray shield because they're hydra yeah um yeah exactly this isn't even accurate and also and also these weren't the qualities that made the avengers the best film as if they were like the defining reason why it was the best film there were other reasons why the avengers is the best marvel film oh way better reasons like the writing not cap was loyal you know well yes we covered a video that argued cap was the worst thing about avengers oh yeah that's true we'll see but chris disagrees with him because they're saying that those traits made him boring and that's not what that video said but they did think that he was not good so again in a sense he's on our team but also not uh to continue it turned these perfect american traits against cap forcing him to watch his once lauded stripes dragged through the mud i don't know about that uh well no because the whole thing with cap in winter soldier is that the world has changed in a way that makes it difficult for him to recognize yeah and i would say the film were wrong when he gets the outfit at the end that he's reinforcing that the values of america stand against hydra not that hydra put the trait into the mud that's not quite how i put it that's that's really weird it would be more so that he just he's he's forced to deal with questions that were not like back in world war two it was easier as like well yeah i mean hydra look at him like that they're super duper evil so obviously you got to stop them compared to the enemies existing within so yeah right yeah the the first movie was such a great setup for winter soldier because all of a sudden the enemies the line between the good guys and the bad guys is all of a sudden oh i hear cut i'll say i absolutely adore the arc they put him on of making him like the government boy and then he gradually becomes the rebel meanwhile yeah i am being the pure rebel the other direction yeah yeah that's really cool um though i will i have some appreciation for the fact that like shield was not set up to be infected by hydra until winter soldier that's something they uh yeah threw on they did that and that are cause problems and big problems for age of ultron yeah i would say that there's problems forever because the mcu has not had like an important military apparatus um your sword has not replaced shield at all sword is so confusing don't even know what they are really at all isn't it saber now as well saber is a space station sword is the organization oh you'd know that if you paid attention to the marvels but clearly you're not a fan the filmmakers famously approached the materials if they were helming a 1970 spy thriller rather than a big budget superhero extravaganza this unique angle elevated the material beyond a series of exciting set pieces oh as if that's not good enough i guess it's a series of exciting side pieces but that's it oh no sorry sorry sorry there's more there's more there's more oh my goodness for a second there i was worried you know i was like uh chris give me more give me it added a layer of political and social depth unseen in previous mcu films unseen calm down calm down iron man was what do you think iron man was a great movie yeah iron man is a great movie i feel like that's the thing that needs to be consistently reinforced iron man was great and really a lot of the other films in phase one at at the worst they were like fine um phase one is actually more consistent than any other phase that came since even phase like whatever i've had had a lot of fucking lives and phase two was bad in general except for guardians just remember like yeah how low stakes things were back then it was comprehensive oh god i miss it right here and this is so much yeah like because in phase one you have a lot of universe at stake it's just like the city it's like oh shit doesn't think instead of reducing the stakes they went further like multi-verse maybe quantum verse quantum verse if this stone doesn't get retrieved it'll be the end of multiple levels the god of stories needs to be cooperated now concept of logic will be torn asunder the concept of souls will be destroyed like oh no it doesn't steal or tighten whatever they call it sticking out of the earth right now and never mentioned it's never been mentioned again it's not true it's mentioned once in she-hold yeah she-hold has it as a little Easter inside nobody else has noticed it you know what that's why they did that to stop people from saying it's never been mentioned now people have to say it's never been addressed properly yeah can't say it's never been mentioned they got you there do you think it's the mullet verse the mullet verse where can i find this mullet verse yeah baby right next to one more words the final paragraph if one were to judge marvel's films solely based on their action sequences winter soldier is their best by far the highway assault sequence is viscerally thrilling notice the real fear on our heroes faces as they engage the bad guys never once do we feel these people are invincible notice the bullets don't hit cap's legs black widow as well didn't she get shot or stabbed through the stomach she got shot she got shot on her shoulder remember yeah so the issue there wasn't that she survived that hit it was that it takes ages for it to get medical attention remember she's just bleeding out as she's been captured the action in that movie does not hold up at all it's pretty bad and that's the thing right i love it in concept like the the nick fury shit where they try to take him out but he's a hell of a lot harder to beat than they thought but man what what they not only what they do to him should be more than enough but whenever he gets flipped and then he takes his lifesaver and escapes into the sewer question mark it takes the hole through like yeah and then winter soldier doesn't just go after him it's no he doesn't he leaves him go and then also another one that i've always found really funny when winter soldier catches the shield what if he just took it yep it was like mine now honestly it would be fucked yeah remember these they they explain to him all of the nature of the plan and then try to nuke him instead of just not explaining the plan and then you can and also if you watch the elevator fight you slow it down there's a lot of people just like not really doing anything there are there are bad guys there are bad guys grappling each other i don't know if the film knows whether everybody in the elevator is on count is against the college it's one of those it's one of those moments where it's like listen guys like we can't have him addressing all of you at the same time so you need to pretend as though he's he's hit you and you're like you guys are a little bit you need to you need to shake and and sort of be hunched over like oh jeez and then once you're straight anything i'll find you but it's gonna move by so fast we're gonna hope that nobody notices but i wouldn't deny it's the tone of the of the fights that i genuinely fucking miss from the mcu some of them are like remember when when fury gets shot you feel as a as a viewer like oh fuck is fury dead and at this point you wish that were true but no well a lot of it comes down to they act like they're in danger whereas now they're like making jokes like it's a fun meme as they're killing all of the bad guys but none of them are ever gonna get them it's like yeah this is kind of like a fun meme that we're having right now it's not like we're fighting for our lives or anything um and especially not taking it seriously when people are in danger because it is one of the biggest problems with a lot of these new superhero films and it's so funny because it's something that got figured out with the earliest superhero films that got made show the hero saving people you gotta show i'm saving people regular people yeah i remember one when he when he uses energy to save those people that are running into him yeah yeah yeah and the car then she runs him over she's panicked he's on a limited energy already but he takes a little bit of energy or probably a lot of energy there's a reason i don't know one is like a master class but it's not unique there's a lot of films that follow it sort of formula spiderman saves a bunch of people superman saves people there's probably a lot but now that is found in spider-man one ramy spider-man that matches iron man one that matches like even something like um a lot of the origin films yeah it's such a superman who'd be saving people you know superman of steel though well we uh me and mel rewatching um the running man there's a there's a very straight forward formula in film and it's just like fuck me when are they gonna get back to that running a formula i'm not gonna kill all these un unarmed civilians where you're on about yeah well no well a team of heroes enters the room with all the bad guys the first thing they say is get the people out get them out now it's like oh why'd you care just shoot them down whatever it is it's such an easy way to endure you to characters when they're trying to help civilians in danger um i mean it's even things like you're more gruff characters like john mclean would be trying to help people you know like in a situation or trying to trying to save them or get them out of harm's way it's such a basic thing and when you have stories that just like have wanton disregard for the lives of civilians it's really uncomfortable it's just weird and awkward and it just makes it harder to you gotta show hero saving yeah it's like why don't you gotta that casual intermittent reminder of oh yeah that's why i really like this exactly and that's why they're doing it in the first place they're not just here to kill people they're here trying to save people i mean again it's avengers avengers 2012 right that'd be a good example of how to point to your big action climax set in a city filled with civilians show cap fighting with aliens to try and save civilians like show what we're trying to save civilians show people saving civilians instead of having them fight in a big empty field where there's nobody around we talked about helms deep being possibly the best sort of fight sequence in film and part of it is the drinker said we're not recording a big part of it is understanding everything is very easy to follow what happens in helms deep and i would say the avengers new york battle is very much one of those as well that we have a character that relates to a particular sort of goal and each of them are given very strict orders and then we move from one to the other to the other to the other and we're keeping it going and they all follow a set of ups and downs uh that that to me is like once you've got that you'll be fine like you can't score below a fucking five if you've nailed that formula yeah like you've nailed your core so now it's about building on top of that and getting to greatness and beyond but as long as that's extraction you're fine both the extraction movies they do pretty darn good job with the action and stuff they just kind of need to you know tighten everything up around they go a little like when he when he's hand holding the minigun taking down the helicopter it's like oh we're delving a little into like absurdity now which is funny because you're like oh but it's okay in t2 we'll be like well he's a timid oh that would that would be another example of world right of like they strongly emphasize hey you know arnie you can't be shooting people all right yes that moves all the good guys we're the good guys so we don't do that we injure but we don't kill people um because it would be really awkward if fucking good guy around people why because you can't why why can't i because you just can't okay trust me on this and then he shoots the guy in the fucking kneecaps and he's like what are you doing so don't kill people he's like you'll live oh i fucking love it so good anyway oh he spells it right this time if one would to judge marvel's films solely based on their action sequences winter soldiers that i far their best the highway assault sequences viscerally thrilling notice the real fear on our hero's faces as they engage the bad guys never once do we feel these people are invincible capable of surviving anything and that's a heck of a trick for a superhero film that's a good trick honestly that had slightly more substance than the other ones yeah that's great yeah there was something there good emphasis on slightly it seems out of place it's almost a five minute review good job what do you have to chris what's going on here christ of uh anyway uh we got two remaining so uh i'll let jon go first what what's uh what's your choice oh wait before we before you do anything oh you're gonna you're gonna check out yeah i'm gonna hop i figured you wanted to stay for the incredible stucmanization but maybe you've overloaded on him like i'll watch the vod later well hey thank you so much for joining us and uh because it won't be there on the night itself happy new year because you're gonna yeah yeah thank you for having me absolutely new year to you guys to the bit yeah that's later i'm here bye goodbye all right jon what have you got which one i would like to hear chris's input on american psycho oh which which is a favorite of mine and a little bit of memes that have a research this year yes let's psycho the american psycho american psycho is the kind of movie that i would expect him to put on here and not say anything about and you'd be like well there's all of them i'm like no no no this one specifically though this is one's one extra nothing yeah well i'm very curious what chris would say about this because i think it's christian bail is playing a particularly complex character in this movie well i'll tell you this um this is the longest i think of all the ones so far oh my god really okay paragraphs oh yeah because like you could say he's somebody who's warped by his upbringing or corporatism or capitalism or whatever but he's playing a very strange character in this movie and also um for how deranged and sort of male centric the movie is it was directed by a woman mary heron you mean mary sue but i think most people think that this movie was must have been directed by a man but it wasn't and i'm curious if chris sever brings this up in his review all right so yeah please let's hear it here we go american psycho quick facts director mary heron starring christian bale jared leto Reese Witherspoon studio edward r pressman productions so this is how it begins all serial killers hollywood seems obsessed with the sub genre films like 1995 seven explore violent crimes through the eyes of the detectives attempting to solve them american psycho provides a refreshing change of pace by placing us in the expensive shoes of patrick bateman a slick-haired high-powered businessman played to sarcastic brilliance by christian bale he's the type who sarcastic brilliance sarcastic brilliance sarcastic brilliance sarcastic brilliance anyway yeah we don't even need to explore that that's true he's the type who arrogantly flies into a fit of envy at the site of an associate's extravagant business card quote look at that subtle off-white coloring the tasteful thickness of it oh my god it even has a watermark end quote a watermark his business card may be lacking but bateman seems to have it all riches status women unfortunately despite his money and position in life he can't seem to stop murdering people they can't seem to stop murdering people it's relatable this is pretty normal so far i don't know what to say really it's eleven the power of american psycho lies in the mystery surrounding bateman's horrific acts of violence are his crimes real or is the whole ordeal some terrifying lucid dream existing only in his mind the film traverses his mental anguish in a way i find most remarkable and it does so with an impressively wicked sense of humor few films can get a laugh out of a bloodied naked man chasing a woman with a chainsaw or how about bateman's compulsion for quoting 80s pop music quote do you like phil Collins end quote we're almost to the end but uh this this is probably the most normal review of a film he's ever written american psycho is shot with meticulous attention to detail nearly every frame contains something visually arresting in fact i think many people overlook the immaculate cinematography when remembering this film but i can't really blame anyone for that since the dialogue and performances are both so infecciously endearing factor in the biting satire of 80s culture along with two great supporting turns from Jared Leto and Reese Witherspoon and you really have no excuse to miss it unless of course you have to return some videotapes and that's it fuck off i was gonna say this feels like a he he sort of what it presents itself as as opposed to everything it's about i thought that was the mcdonald's happy meal review the happy meal review is a great way to put it because i haven't seen it moving a long time that's basically everything i remembered of it i'm just like i'm gonna re-watch it now to actually remember what's actually this is the review you give when you've got nothing to say about the film yeah which is in line with everything there's no depth to it there's absolutely no insight as to what might be at the very least might be driving this character there's nothing these quotes are the subtle off-white coloring quote which is like the meme that's like the memius meme from the film is like of course he quoted that that's the most normal thing you could do these um these reviews to me they feel like what you could pressure some random passerby into giving you on the street you know it doesn't that none of these feel like they come from a professional veteran movie critic no that's when you walk through the city and someone starts telling you about americans yeah it's like hey have you heard about american psycho or you know you're standing in line to get movie tickets and the guy it's behind you is like oh lunch or a slow have you seen american psycho yeah it's like a really bad football is what it is it's just yeah exactly as best you can you read the spark notes and you're trying to present like and you use words like oh yeah it was brilliant it was inspired it was truly uh or inspiring and terrifying and riveting and you just throw those words in there between just regular factoids and things that you skimmed or breeze possums like yeah there you go you done it you've presented me with the most basic surface level interpretation of that film dude i was literally thinking of like that simpsons where bart simpsons doing a book report on the treasure island he's like this book was brought to you by the fine people at mcgroth come on dude like you're just mentioning scenes like you know remember that scene where he has the chainsaw and he cuts people up and it's just like oh you mentioned the gory scene in the movie that means you really know this movie inside and out like he was too busy playing dash dingo to write his book review dash didn't go pretty fucking good though i don't know how many people um someone said he didn't nunchucks pretty great the someone in chat said casually he didn't write this though and i'm just i don't know if that's said as like an insult or whatever because it says bristuckman author i can't see any other indication that this was written by anybody but what a weird book to write imagine if you did make it so that these were your recommendations but someone else fills in the reason to see them but i think i think he wrote it i don't have i don't see anyone can tell the difference i will say this is absolutely in line with everything i'd expect him to write exactly exactly yeah oh yeah i just you figured that again you would have weight you would be like annoyed by the limitations of like prince as a medium of trying to talk about 50 films that you love you know and the limitations of how big your book could even be to be distributed that would be confining you rather than oh yeah we're just you know like a couple you know 100 pages to talk about like 50 movies where each each movie gets one and a half pages like damn yeah yeah i want to you know you can talk about any of these movies for like you know an hour easily more than oh well it's us to be fair normal people can talk about these movies for 10 minutes easily let's put it that way talk about a 10 minutes half an hour you know well part of the issue i would say is that it's not even that he talks about them for a minute is he doesn't talk about them no he'll he'll lay out like kind of normal factoids he'll uh i mean even even with a minute you could go into some depth but he just doesn't like it's what makes it a kind of sub book report at least like every book report i ever had to write usually there would be a question to prompt you like what does x characters decision here represent in terms of like the the broader narrative like you'd have to say something about someone involved in the film or some aspects of the book something specific that's not just generic adjective this made me feel stuff um and this is who directed it that you have to get a bit more granular than that overview but it's kind of telling as well like the the fact that this book is supposed to have been written by celebrated film critic stucman but actually could have been written by pretty much anyone even people who hadn't really seen the film um is yeah kind of indicative of the overall quality of the review i think yep something that i'm noticing as well as that um most of the time he's not really most of the time he doesn't like to talk about anything that gets like a little bit more personal in terms of the impact that any given film has on it like with signs he did it but even then like not in a super comprehensive way but like there's no points in any of these of how this film there's no human element no human touch exactly like how did this film impact you in terms of what did it make you think about yourself did it change you and the way that you felt about yourself in any particular way like a really great story can where it introduces you to like some new idea or concept or theme that just takes root in your brain and is really hard to dislodge because i mean a lot of the time that's what you're looking for right when you're looking for stories as the ones that really how yeah how to make you feel you know how did it make you feel yeah that's me you're a human yeah because telling us it made you feel is like well yeah not really enough though is it you felt things you're like but what things like you don't have to write that your characters were breathing like we yeah you assume so yeah and to me it's just like it's like a lack of caring about the material like if i if i was providing a review on something like american psycho i would want to go into some depth to it it's just like here's what i think is happening here but there's just like no incentive incentive on his part to like go into any real this makes you wonder what what a casual conversation with them would be like it's the only kind of conversation you can have with them talk about his favorite movie and it's like okay go on tell me what your favorite movie like your buddies with them you just get into the conversation probably the first science yeah science might be the one to actually cry out some kind of controversial perspective yeah because he feels things passionately about i don't even want a controversy i just wanted to tell me more well controversial to him is normal for us is kind of what i'm getting at giving details of a movie's plot is controversy yeah he's like whoa now i will i will tell you what happened to the protagonist in that film yeah whoa yeah well i have a problem with that broadly like i feel like there's this weird conflation between a plot summary and a review and with a lot of like youtubers and it's just like come tell me what you think about it like you know go dive beneath the surface at least a little bit you know because i can get a plot summary from fucking anywhere i can get it from the website of the of the movie you know what the media yeah all these websites i'm gonna watch the watch the movie the people trying to sell you the film will tell you what it's sort of about yeah oh boy well that leaves us with one more from az whatever he would like to hear i had a look i was gonna say casino royale but then i changed my mind oh my and i would like to hear what stuck when has to say about enemy oh the film new film yeah well we could do both because i'm kind of curious what you have to say about the reinvention of uh james bond but why don't we do that last we'll do enemy first yeah yeah how many people here have seen enemy i have not seen it i have no all right well as this will be all for you then you got to tell us how insightful this is okay you can tell us now if you like because you don't actually you could give a good guess right now yeah enemy was a nice film and i thought it was nice that's too much it's calm down it's quite like it actually okay here we go enemy mystery thriller director denny villeneuve starring jake jillian hall melanie i assume loran and sara gordon gordon gordon gordon studio mecanismo mecanismo cool all right when here's the review here we go that spider that freaking spider for a cinephile there's nothing better than a confusing movie that begs them to hang around underneath the theater marquee grasping its straws to decipher what they just saw it's nothing better than that there's nothing better than that i don't know about that okay enemy is directed by the immensely gifted denny villeneuve starring jake jillian hall in a daringly restrained performance so confounding is enemy that as of this writing over seven hundred and seventy thousand baffled people have watched my analysis video in which i attempt to explain its hidden meanings wow why is that in this book is that in your book you fuck over seven hundred and seventy thousand people have watched a youtube video that i made on youtube links in the description oh my god anyway uh after initially after initially seeing enemy i sat in awe at the puzzle pieces the film left scattered across the floor it was almost as if villeneuve was taunting me to approach this puzzle and doing so took two months two months this is me reading it by the way even now as i write this i'm positive there are still things i've missed so wait has he put this in here because he thinks he's the person who cracked the film when no one else did or something i cracked the code well he said he said a whole load of nothing so yeah he hasn't said anything yeah we'll get there next paragraph i feel that with a film like this you'd benefit to know little about the plot so i won't say much besides the basics what else do you ever say okay okay let's go go ahead i mean you mostly fail about the basics too so i'm very curious jillian hall is convinced he has an identical twin he never knew about and is desperate to meet him to assume this briefs and wait that's it that's sorry just the idea of him saying um that he has an identical twin that he never knew about it was like duh of course he never fucking knew about him then he wouldn't think he had an identical twin if he had an identical twin or not what is the plot of that he lives with this creepy lookalike and he grew up with this weirdo in his house that shares his face i feel like the i won't say too much is because i i'm not actually convinced he's seen this film what do you mean he explained it to 770 thousand baffled people that is a quote by the way he has seven to the list mm baffled people he's talking to okay that is desperate to to meet him to assume this brief synopsis is all enemy has to offer would be tantamount to observing one brick on the great wall of china deciding you've seen enough what what are you talking about chris you know what i'll i'll reiterate what i've said before writing is really difficult most people can't do it with a damn okay moving on this movie can actually be researched honestly ask yourself when's the last time you saw a new film that actually required serious thought wait serious thought i don't need to research it make up your mind sorry that's that's like a perplexing the reason i stopped there was i was like surely everyone here takes issue with that statement that's stunning that he would say that that is stunning he's basically just shat on all of the other films in this when i say stunning i mean stunned into silence like i am stunned that he wouldn't say that i was like where do you start with that so he's basically just made the statement that this is the only film he has seen in recent memory that required serious thought yeah the other ones didn't require serious thought they only required unserious thought there were little baby movies compared to enemy i need to remind you of the films that entered this list that apparently did not require any kind of serious thought american psycho memento crouching tiger hidden dragon spirited away signs he said the signs was so important but apparently not fucking hell old boy return to the king no country woman yeah incredible shawna the dead history of violence i don't understand how none of these qualify zodiac why doesn't that qualify have you ever taken two months to think about a film or have i ever taken two months to explain to 770 000 baffled people what a film means he's a reviewer this is his job he's supposed to apply serious thought no everything he watches only to the films that earn it which apparently is only enemy 2013 at least one made the chris duckman grade one made the cut in the 2000s man i mean the the the spider visual is the lowest hanging fruit that you can grab from that movie so an unintellectualized about that movie than the spider i don't even know this movie so no no it's like there's a spider and some twin it's like oh what right so the twin thing a little bit better jake gillagore a little bit rent rent a little bit better than cockman or suckman or whatever money is savage uh he watches a film and when he's watching the film he sees an actor in the film that looks identical to him and he's he's really kind of uh curious about this he's been told to watch this film you know and then he gets to the point and there's like a bell i think it's a bell hop it's been a little while since the enemy i think it's a bell hop and it's it's jake gillagore and he's and he's sort of wondering how on earth he could have this this this actor which looks like him and so he decides to go out and find the actor and sort of confront the actor if they if they are related if they if they do know each other and then when the actor realizes that he has a double like uh jake gillagore then it leads to a much more interesting path as he tries to exploit this and uh i mean then you do go off into massive spoiler territory because it involves the women in their lives and yeah but but already you're saying he he was told to watch a movie where you find someone that looks exactly like him that's already more interesting yeah that is that is a very interesting watch the film is from so so why not just tell us how you feel about it instead yeah i thought it's nice i thought it was nice the cool elite so to to add to my point about the spider the fact that chris starts his review off of like with uh that spider that fucking spider it's just so cringe so you're taking the lowest fucking thing that this film has to offer it was what a paragraph and this is your preface for the whole thing before he quoted the fucking shit about the business card in american cycle yeah come on i mean i mean even that opening is uh i think he's he's referencing the very end of the film like the very end seconds of the film i didn't want to say it but yeah and so and so to get to that point you have a whole fucking film chris before you even you even get to that point yes there is there is a major spider imagery all throughout the uh film from the from the uh reveal of uh you know the trencherler with the woman to the group of people at the beginning through to the the crashed car and the spider's web the spider web which was uh imagery which was made out of the destroyed glass so there is uh there is multiple images of of spider you know spider references of course you see the spider huge spider walking across the city obviously that is metaphorical as opposed to literal and so the the end has you know that that's that's you have to get i know you you're balancing between spoiler adult spoiler yeah i see what you're doing it's hard to bring up the spider thing without spoilers yeah i get you a massive character you know it's a huge character piece and it's a huge delve into who you are you know who we are uh are you know as as humans as as as people spiders as spiders is the force awakens oh you know what you weren't here as as soliders too late you've referenced it uh i'd like to quote a comment from chris one sec about because you brought up force awakens this this helps you as contextualize the kind of uh kind of caliber info this this is directly from his assessment of why you should see the force awakens so here we go everyone here has heard this except for you as get ready i love this film and honestly feel that in years to come and especially with future releases it will garner great respect that might be my favorite quote other than the it's so dumb how far off the mark could you possibly the writer he was wrong this is not much else to say about that one but i mean either that quote or the one where he says he had a serious thought i had a serious thought but after some but after some Tylenol it was okay oh anyway we got one paragraph left okay let's go enemy is part of a dying breed of films and Vilnuv is clearly content with this he actually had his cast sign an agreement to avoid discussing the meaning of the spiders that are ever present throughout the film his intense dedication to his projects especially enemy is remarkably refreshing in today's day and age of movies is a movie that begs its audience to lean closer wondering what exactly they just saw a film that utilizes every space of the frame to populate the screen with clues and information if that sounds intriguing to you then seek out this underrated gem just be prepared to take notes then watch it again and take more notes then maybe lay in the fetal position taking more notes oh there's not going to be as revolutionary of a spider movie until madame web release it will replace the spider film madame web will be the starting point of a wonderful uh never mind man that uh that was disappointed as well i guess i don't know what i expect from the stuck man sometimes stuck man of stuck i guess i'm glad it was enemy that made him go wait a minute you can think about films it's like yes yes chris yes you can't just you can think about films you don't have to just pretend to talk about them on the internet what the fuck what hey seven hundred and seven thousand people is them you guys want to hear what he has to say about casano royale i really want to hear what he has to say about casino royale so this is what the whole thing's gonna be it's just chris stuckman like yes we're not we're gonna have to do another episode with the intention of what we were supposed to do today this is just too funny i was gonna say this is a chris stuckman episode now it's it's been fun i've enjoyed this um i i hadn't read the book outside of the signs review but this has been filled with gold right today so yeah yeah it did arrive today uh very convenient uh sorry john we about to say something as well about the uh what's about enemy no all i wanted to say there was that i was luke warm on chris stuckman before but now i'm actually starting to dislike based on this discussion just because it's so it's so shallow so it's commentary you're saying you have that's all that's literally it i've been stuck but that's a problem i don't know if i think that's a bad thing i would say being stuck my eyes you've been stuck my eyes do the casino royale 2006 action adventure thriller director martin cambell starring daniel craig ava green mass mickelson studio eon productions the reinvention of a popular franchise a timeless classic or in this case a character has spread through hollywood like a disease why would you say that would you say disease okay i'm thoroughly convinced that we'll receive at least one friday the 13th incarnation every five years but hear me studio executives don't you dare touch jaws that's sacred ground what is happening what i have no idea am i on the wrong page yeah please why would you describe james bond as a disease like you need someone to be like uh chris people don't like diseases so leader three times majority of these reboots and remakes aren't made with care easily recognized as the blatant cash grabs they are and of course remember he said that this now well and remember he had nothing but praise for the force awakens i know that's not a strict reboot well no it is but he wouldn't say this anymore would he oh who knows this is too harsh oh yeah this is mean this is mean this is too mean he doesn't do mean anymore gratefully that wasn't the case with casino royale daniel craig the disease i think he meant that positively i think he doesn't understand what disease evokes like i don't like anything that spreads you know uh daniel craig's first outing as the iconic spy james bond nutella instead spreads like nutella on toast imagine his review of nutella it's nice i like it it's a bit surprising expectations but not really casino royale perfectly embodies and more importantly understands the term reboot less experienced filmmakers assume their reboot will be interesting simply because it contains beloved characters from previous films oh like fucking force awakens hello but casino royale does for bond what batman begins did for the caped crusader oh bond becomes a vulnerable human being not just a gun toting ladies man with a license to kill i mean just he's a vulnerable physically and emotionally wait he's vulnerable physically and emotionally okay that's fine it's not let's say the things that other people say about things well i was going to say i haven't heard any of this from uh no i've not not heard this before but that's fine it's not the first attempt at humanizing bond he got married in he got married in another film what did he put in another film no i he says on emergency secret service i'm just saying that that's a funny statement he was made human before because he got married in that other one he's like okay see humans get married what about when delo was murdered in license to kill oh i've never liked the idea because i i love casino royale as much as the next person but i don't like the idea that it's the first one that made him human it's like fuck off no well it is sort of an echo of what on your her majesty secret service did where bond got married and ended tragically well but there's many ways to explore him as a character that goes beyond another interest he's incarcerated and british government basically just leave him yeah um but it's the first time everything has truly clicked shawn connery's original achievement as the titular spy has had few real competitors until craig i don't know appears probably my favorite but all right a lot of fucking horse shit uh his bond is foolhardy naive and needlessly reckless yet he's also fully committed to his job in the past bond would allow his libido to jeopardize his assignments in casino royale bond is getting frisky with a gorgeous lady yet leaves the instant she tells him what he needs to know this is a cold calculating assassin and it's the closest we've gotten to ian fleming's original vision isn't a guy who continues who who keeps going with it and has sex with a beautiful woman even after he has the information that's more humanizing than the cold calculating assassin who once he has what he wants he leaves also don't buy that he's read any of you having a much easier way in one of the roger more films when he's sleeping with someone up on a ski lodge and then he gets a call and he gets up to leave and she says but james i need to and he says he wanted to ride the slopes and he says so does england he's on a slope and then has a union jack parachute like to what rags was saying the 2000s casino royale does one and the other like when he's like yeah tracking down the terrorists that like is trying to blow up the plane like he when he's uh interrogating his girlfriend all he wants is like the information and then he sort of leaves her but then when it comes to vesper he's actually interested in establishing a long-term relationship isn't that what the movie's about it's the the big split between how you know a lot of what your feelings would take you but a lot of where the job takes you sort of thing yeah good foundation for a james bond like character that's why again sorry he had to set up uh the the you know bond was company bond he was doing the things that she needed he needed to do get the information killed the people get his status and all that then he meets vesper he tries to play the same game with vesper you know says all the things that he believes he needs to say to him you know says that i'm not interested in you why because i'm smart this that and the other no because you're single you know he's trying to paint himself to here as as the uh as the sort of you know i'm the spy guy that comes in does this and fucks off lady but no he falls in love with her and that changes the uh the whole uh the whole kind of mission in places so um yeah it's that you needed to have the setup to get the payoff of falling in love yes oh yeah i'm saying yeah you need that contrast like have a woman where he's just trying to extract information out of her but then a particular woman comes along and it's like oh i've fallen for this one yes you know yeah it's called story penning um to continue simply from an action standpoint this is the best 007 by far director martin cambell's mastery of set pieces is evident with the visceral jaw dropping parkour sequence legitimately one of the greatest action scenes ever created oh jesus wow the film also contains brilliant work from ava green the best female character a bond film has had in decades with mass mickelson the best bond villain ever ever ever ever we're making some heavy statements here yeah he's um i mean this is the most bold he's been like in a while and it's like the most basic nerd statements where it's just like this was the best one mickelson's less chief is no cat stroking a caricature of evil he's just a person crippled by debt scared of his enemies i think that's why the film succeeds so well it understands the characters inhabiting the screen allowing their journey to propel the story instead of explosions and skimpy outfits remember though no serious thought would come from this film no it's not allowed that's no enemy it's no nothing is enemy right nothing at all it's just enemies it's on an island um well there you go that's a strong grasp of what it feels like to have chris duckman be your influential figure into the world of film yeah sure yeah i was gonna say pain but it's like well it's it's almost a lack of anything isn't it it's um so it's so empty it's just nothing happy meal it's a fault it's a whole book of this no a happy meal shuts up your kids this this i mean in all fairness uh some of the stuff that he said shuts us up well i might put us to sleep well the one about the serious thought thing that that had me i was like wow he said that that's that i guess done still kind of shocked that he said that it's um it's a weird book because again it's written as though you've seen the films most of the time and it's all films that most people have heard of if you even have a vague interest in films have probably seen as well this is a list of films that you should bucket list films right see before you die make sure you see them yeah so it's got to be uh presented from the point of view that you haven't seen these films yep yeah and he's meant to be convincing you why you should see these films but he's not he's doing the most bog-standard nothing of nothing's well i mean you know who's really seen lord of the rings i thought i said it wrong there because i'm just so unfamiliar with saying it lord of the ring no it's a lot of lot of ring lord of the ring yeah i think you would think like a bucket list list of films would be like films that you wouldn't normally see yeah all films that scenery is something where it's like yeah of course that's going to get mainstream marketing and whatever like of course i'm going to see that on tv and want to go to see it like sorry go ahead i agree with you i uh i think i feel this is the opportunity to highlight things that either have been heard of but mostly ignored which does you know sometimes does happen and then films that you've never heard of that's that those are the two things that probably should enter here films that even we would see them and be like oh yeah because that did that had like a 200 million budget but it only made like 50 and it was really good like that kind of movie might end up on here but there should be so yeah like the bucket list of best movies of all time and you've put you've thrown like i said i feel it feels weird to me that i recognized everyone here except one mm-hmm that's like that that list we were going over where force awakens was at the top of it was that the bucket list of his yeah yeah like yeah we don't need to know we don't need to be reminded come on how many people if you're interested in film have you even heard of star wars i don't know i don't know if you heard this little film called star wars the force awakens like get the fuck out of here dude that's kind of what i mean when we go to the the genres of like you know animated like what what what films are present here and it's like the Incredibles have you seen that as like come on it's like yeah but it's really good and it's like okay that's not the problem really it's not really the issue you got you can only put 50 on here and the films people should see before they die and you've included something like pirates the caribbean or the avengers it's like yeah okay yeah i mean if there was a few films on that list where it's just like i think that's more popular than you think it is but like whatever it's fine but like the force awakens like not that's not the only one there's a number of like return of the king was is on there as well yeah but only return of the king is a weird thing there's only return of the king yeah that is really bizarre why what was his thought process behind that why have just returned to the king on the list even though each movie is distinctly different and not have those included just especially if you say that you should watch the third in this trilogy of movies before you die yeah don't watch the other two no you return of the king is that yeah that's weird there was something that um that moeller pointed out earlier it's a film that's presented as these are films that you need to see that's written assuming that you probably seen most of them anyway yeah it's just what's the point yeah don't oh yeah with terrible descriptions it's so weird dude it is weird and going around to hospitals to find people on that the last legs of life he goes up to me says hey have you seen the force awakens you know what what do i need to say is that yes let me tell you nothing about this film you know this movie is going to be big what's this movie about imagine the last movie you see before you die is still is that one well so i haven't heard this well enough i should metal this but there with every page you get an illustration to associate with the film some of these are fucking dreadful i wouldn't mind you guessing some of them you're gonna guess this one i'll start with this one all right so here's number one this is for a film can you guess which one i mean yes it's casino royale but i was just like what the fuck is that like look at what an awkward bb8 looks like the why is it just it's just it's like you recognize all this right you're like yeah i guess so yeah but why why is the millennium bigger than the end no no no why is the death star in the force awakens why are they why are all these icons positioned the way they are i don't know it's so crappy like scrunched up for it's just a weird position i guess i don't know like you could have given a shit i suppose no speaking of giving a shit uh some of the oh so what do you what movie is this um i think ronnie and metal might have a chance on this one thanks for picking one that all of us might have had a chance at but it's not the point um oh that's carline that's correct that is carline oh yeah that makes sense actually yeah what a shit image for carline yeah so good wouldn't you do the image from the poster of her uh in the uh in the tunnel no you don't like with the door and that's the light cost into the that's just what the expect fringy exactly here's one all of you should get it's so great you see that you're like of course that's with the soldier that's what with the soldier is wait a minute how big is captain america's how big is the star in the shield isn't that big it's not to scale these images aren't to scale because kylo ren's helmet isn't actually as big as it is it's not bigger than the death star okay the star does fill the uh it's just that it shouldn't be that big the uh the lines are meant to be bigger on the outside and the uh the industry and also look at the the force awakens is just a bunch of star wars stuff crammed together and the rest is a single thing so i think i missed the context of these is this is is this like minimalist posts that are the accompanying minimalist images to help you what is what is this now there is no uh captain underpants that's rocky creed is correct which still i'm just like that's so lame okay now what is short here's his underwear here's his underwear you can buy those movies they'd be 300 dollars yes i'm confused why is the style inconsistent why does the star wars one have a distinctly different style than all of the other ones well yeah they are inconsistent because you know what this is boy story yes yeah that'd be toy story but uh man i wouldn't probably go with like buzz uh woody it's a silhouette of buzz or woody yeah again that's not same style as the one that's been i don't know it like it needs to you got to pick one and stick with it because having one that's just no outlines and then the other one that's throw me off you could just do whatever well no i'm okay with the images it's just that i mean i'm not okay with some of these like no no i mean i'm okay with the premise of having images before you talk about whatever it is you're talking about oh the accompaniment of images that's fine yeah but not the images themselves because the uh the star wars one in particular is so fucking half-assed like really that one's crap i was just like no good here's a bunch of star wars shaped things yay it's like a child's play set i don't i hate it what's the book cost uh that's a great question i will discover the answer to that while you continue talking about things oh yeah now i'm curious because it's by the sounds of it is relatively short but hey this it's paid for itself we're sure but like not everybody's got to monetize it so i'm curious about how much it it costs you okay where did anyone buy it oh yeah no dude it's it was it was selling out when i picked it up and it's got a sticker on it that says national best seller national wow probably all right 12 pound 65 is cost me jeez is that one a refund are you serious well that's sorry that's the price of the hardcover the paperback is four pound 14 damn it's three times the price for the hardcover versus the paperback okay is that normal for books normally the yeah normally the hardbacks are more expensive because i know they're more expensive but three times quite often no that's not typical he's about twice probably twice i would have been about way he preferred he did a top 50 to see of all time that's when it would get really funny yeah okay we need to i need to take more photos of some of these images they are fucking funny so you're gonna have to talk about something okay go pick them photos this oh this is what i can't wait to show you what go on then i can't i gotta take more i gotta do a ball okay i gotta find all the funny ones there's so many photos gotta catch them all double shit okay well you know i'll just prompt you as what do you think of chris duckman as a film reviewer oh i think it's an absolute fucking bellend that's kind i think no i've never liked the guy zero of you i've always i've always found him to be boring more more than anything boring fucking white bread milk toast i've never thought that the guy has has actually had anything really to say i've never thought that he's actually had any talent i can only imagine that his success has come from the fact that he is so nothing and and sometimes people gravitate towards that but yeah i i i got nothing positive about the guy sorry he's he's um uh he's got no he's got no nothing there is nothing about the guy yeah you're right he's just uh i mean like he's i'm thank goodness he's not like really talented at anything or else boy he'd be boring okay i'll i've grabbed three i consider this easy medium and hard in terms of guessing the film that that's the fun game we can make we'll go with easy first so what film is this wonderful artwork for the camera how did you know i like how it's clearly two different things that have been just attached to each other so awful why would you do that the bone and the ship are just clearly from two completely different things what's really throwing it off is that the ship is like incredibly detailed yeah and then you just put these goopy-ass clip-up skeleton man looks like scales in hand you can put on your call of duty emblem yeah yeah okay this might have been made with the call of duty image editor yeah you guys ready to crank up the difficulty here are you ready what is this for i already know i'm you're just qualified then yeah uh shawna the dead correct damn which i still think is a really shit image for that it's i wouldn't have guessed that that shawna the dead no i guess i got the zombie the tie i don't know why the is the hospital blood and then red or the i love story uh yeah but yeah this sucks why wouldn't you have it be like shawna with the cricket bat bring you you wait sir this is the last one of the night okay everybody which which film is this oh kassina royale incorrect uh i haven't seen that one i actually don't know the king's speech incorrect i'm looking forward to saying correct for this one uh the recent mcbeth was incorrect no oh fuck i'm i'm looking at the list in the way incorrect in ellipsoid wonderland nope nope these are films on the list these are yeah well they free is more fun if they don't remember whether or not they're on the list i can't remember okay well i'm trying i'm not gonna remember um our turn of the king correct oh my god but but it's not the crown it's not it's not the crown this is really a different crown easily by picked for the most embarrassing fucking image for return of the king are you kidding he's a clever means killer what are you talking about he nailed it my little shitty you fucking get this this is the crown you get and christmas crackers what are you doing if you were getting me to do lord of the rings i'd probably pick the ring exactly why the fuck is this shitty crown on the stock crown you see the thing is this is not even actually really clever because they're so vague and they could apply to pretty much anything they're exactly like his reviews so actually the minimalism stuff works christ stockman to reviewing films is this image to return of the king i hate it wow that's embarrassing so fucking i don't like this minimalist aesthetic overall most of it's fucking honestly i think you'd say you'd love it if it would done well yeah i'd know i've seen it sometime very very occasionally done well but like i can't even think of a good this off my head i think minimalist artists would see this to be like that's not minimalist that's just shit no offense to the artist to oh no offense offense should be given and actually uh you well yes the worst one i've seen was like blade runner where our guys running along the blade of a knife i'm just like that's so fucking on the nose yeah but it matches blade runner and a man running on a blade come on he's running along the plate you just you just not flew it in man yeah with blade runner you could always do something like like a dove because they're like oh a dove and they don't like oh yeah but they need to think like oh yeah that's why you'd use it or maybe um like the i mean you could just have like a silhouette of decade yeah the gun off oh he's gone he's gonna have like the little outlines of the flying cars you know or oh origami the origami unicorn that would be a modest amount of thought about the movie if it doesn't come across like that comes across as someone who hasn't seen the movie but knows the title because that's what that's what he does he blurb reds across the plate because none of the things that we mentioned were like you wouldn't know about that unless you had watched the film you'd have because that's not like the poster of it yeah um i just want to highlight a recent super chat that said oh wow i actually own a copy of this book that stuck with himself autographed met the man in a akron back in 2017 can't say i'm proud of it anymore now i feel bad because that was probably quite a precious memory keep it you need to make you need to get that put in a box and framed on the wall that's a that's an heirloom to pass into your children i want to just be jerry for a second like that is probably a precious memory you should cherish of meeting someone like that when you they mean so much to you i wouldn't want to take all of that away i just he's perpetually fucking fascinated me as a film reviewer um like we've already talked about how he was there when it started and so that's why he's where he is but like i've had plenty of people in my life that i've talked to you about film that even at their like most limited say more than this so it you would think that if you really had a passion as we say all the time with chris duckman if you really had a passion for any of this how have you done such an incredible job at making sure that none of it ever shows we've talked about it before but uh we don't often feel compelled to say that we love movies like here on this show because it's pretty obvious we don't feel compelled to say we love video games or television shows or just like media in general because there's really no reason to it should be apparent but like constantly being like oh yeah i love movies i love movies so much like movies are so great i love them so much it's like cool but like that should just be self-evident just by the way that you talk about in the same vein we've i don't think we've ever said oh man guys efab chat you should see this film because it made us think about it every movie every movie down to fucking tlj or the flash whatever you pick your poison they make us think yeah and man there's a thought-provoking film not in the ways it intended but definitely in many many many many many different ways that film was thought-provoking last film i saw was uh the cinema godzilla minus one i love thought-provoking that film i'm sure that to give an example right with the with the flash when they had him like fucking trying to put everything back to normal but then he didn't go and see who killed his mom we were like that was hugely thought-provoking it's like what is wrong with you what kind of person wouldn't do that when you've had the rules explained that going to see who did it won't destroy the future why don't you go check man go do it because it's the one thing would do because if they're well i mean the reason is because if they've done that in that film it would have been here by thorn and therefore it would have it would have created a whole new why wasn't this the fucking villain in the film oh barring meta reasons i'm i'm simply because this i'm trying to argue it's not a good thing that a film makes you think necessarily because it could be a bunch of bad thoughts like you know what i'm thinking if it makes you think at the very least it's better than if it does nothing at all because then it's just kind of you can't talk about yeah that's probably fair i don't but i that so this is the problem i'm encountering i don't know if i've ever discovered a film that's never made me think anything transformers rise of the beast's game close all right barring transformers rise of the beast well i i didn't think i originally i when i saw that i did think why the fuck did they make this movie i started scripting a review and i got to the point where like why are robots on different planets evolving to take the shape of earth animals and i ended up going on this long tangent about crabs and car civilization at the end of it i was like why am i even doing this oh it's more interesting than the film but at least i'm thinking about something that it did otherwise come very close to making me think nothing at all this movie really made me think you know it made me think wow what a piece of shit i can't believe i wasted my time with all that in mind it does actually make me make me think that chris doesn't really think about the films he watches he watches him goes yeah that was awesome oh yeah that wasn't so awesome yeah that was awesome and then this film he was like wait a minute i don't know what happened in that and now that i'm thinking about it some things make more sense but other things don't whoa i'm gonna think about it some more whoa the film has never done this before and i'm sort of sitting there like really no film but that you know like i said the more extreme answer to this question as far as i'm concerned is that all films do this even the shitty ones do it a lot of the time we talk about how a shitty film presents a premise that we would be like oh this could have been good though if you know if you put this there and this there and this there like tom cruz's ethan hunt versus an ai which is representative of the course of the whole series he has to learn to use all kinds of technology to win when that tech is turned on him and the you know the conclusion of the series of mission impossible that sounds amazing in terms of an enemy it's an impossible mission because now everything you're used to using to defeat the problem is the enemy it's like oh yeah yeah yeah so like so what do you think uh if there's so little that's going on in terms of watching the films what does sustain him in terms of continuing to do it rather than other things it's the idea of it all that's what sustains yeah why why do you think that the idea could even exist you know how like in the menu the uh the guy that um nicolas uh whole place that is yeah well um did we say that was high top maybe no that is that high top or is it well well but the thing is is that because what because what his deal was is that he could demonstrate like an immense amount of knowledge but couldn't channel it into anything meaningful at all um like in terms of creating things like you couldn't channel it into the craft is that either of those guys because part of the problem there is that we would say chris duckman i'm not even commenting on his ability to create film his ability to create criticism or review or analysis is completely shot well that's what i'm saying is that like at least nicolas halt's character could like yeah you're right reservation about the food yeah he knew well but someone could say isn't that the equivalent of knowing the director the writer and maybe what camera was used and stuff like that oh right because he might just be regurgitating things that he's heard other people say not understood on a craft level just on a literal level the fact that he couldn't even synthesize it into a dish that was like even okay whereas you imagine that if somebody was watching a bunch of people like watching a bunch of chefs and understood a lot of it that they could actually sit down and make something and it would turn out okay because there'd just be so much information that made its way in um obviously with challenges so if he was in the menu then who would he be or is he not even represented in that film i'd have to think about again who we're dealing with in total because there's the guys who are there for the money which isn't him there's the washed up star which isn't him there's uh obviously the main character isn't him nicolas halt is like a vague fit but not quite there's the people who come there for the prestige but don't actually care about any of it i don't think that's him uh which doesn't quite fit no by the way we we talked about the menu on e-fap uh i think it's worth seeing i think that was uh the beginning of the year actually yeah it was a while ago yeah yeah i like that we'll talk about you know what we'll do what this e-fap was supposed to be next week because you will be actually over there wrapping up yes our hopes for the new year and uh looking back on the year we just completed seems like it's a nice thematic sort of through line there nutty but um yeah you maybe you'd need another character one that is um it desperately wants the prestige but has no idea what's even happening or how to get there well i mean i guess he uh he's making a film right so there is not in terms of also unless it sounds mean but like that's why we have so little confidence in his ability to make film because which is an ironic twist on the usual format a lot of people say like critics won't be able to make film because that's a different creative sort of prowess skill set meanwhile we're saying his criticism is so pathetic and thin that i don't see how he has any hope of making a film i guess i'm not sure what the thought process would be to making you know how we we've talked about it right like what is the what's like the snider way of making films it's like well it's kind of what rebel moon was grabbing a bunch of things that he yeah liked having a general under like an awareness of beats that stories supposed to have but not really understanding why and then throwing them all together haphazardly while doing things that he thinks are cool to an excessive degree to the detriment of the broader film and then obviously day four and he's like yeah it's my toys i just get him here in my little play box and i bash him together and i imagine them having cool battles like that's his methodology what's the what's the stuckman one what is that gonna look like don't know and i guess we'll find out because we will be watching the shelby oaks of course yeah we saw notes from melanie um which he begrudgingly admitted he released because he couldn't find another way to release it which was annoying that was really weird like the i don't want to release it for free here on youtube all you to watch but i couldn't for the record drinker for that drinker wants to release his short film on youtube because he wants people to see it cool yeah yeah there's no like drinker didn't like he's like oh i can't get anyone to fund the release in a more official manner like in theaters like so i guess i'll just throw it out of youtube is like nope he just wants you guys to see it it's a celebration of how far his channel has come and i look forward to seeing it but um yeah the note that's recognizable here is like a sort of full circle is that uh christakman's journey to me comes across as he watches films loves them watches like directors talking about them he's like man that's what i want to be the kind of just i wish i was that yeah i wish i was uh like he's doing um he's got the spider man homecoming arc i want to be iron man just to be i really want to be on the set and i want the chair that's got director on the back of it and i want to say action and i want to see the thing the uh the thing come down and i want to have a table over there that's got food on it because movies are supposed to have catering and i want to yeah like that kind of stuff yeah um without understanding that all of it ultimately like stems from a fundamental drive to create above like all else through the tools that are available in that and this is just illustrating so many ways like for example the um we shouldn't really value what critics do in any way close to what creatives do which is such a distinctively obvious sort of mindset creating criticism isn't creative no and and he said like what we do takes a half hour he believes that though that was what we yeah it's what we discovered however many years or year ago i can't remember how long it was but he he was very specific in the creators can take the filmmakers can take as much as a whole year of doing this stuff while we take a half hour to record and upload our thoughts it's like excuse you it's like you take a half hour to record your thoughts and upload it some people spend months or even years working on a big analysis filled with creative editing visuals animations obviously presentation funny jokes i wouldn't be surprised that blue is fucking mined to know just to take an example not for any other reason that but like if me and fring explain to him all the stuff that had to happen to make a quantamania happen and go go to be fair yeah that was uh that was an exhaustive days and days and days and weeks of work instead of him presenting any kind of disagreement or pushback to the notion of like six hours to say you didn't like a movie like that's much more likely where you would settle i don't i think it would take a lot from him to be like oh wow that's really impressive instead he'd be more inclined to be like guys why don't you put that into something creative yeah why do you why don't you put that into something that isn't a waste of your life yeah and i think he'd be fucking shallow enough to be like i'm not being mean i'm just giving you advice i'm just saying you're wasting your life yeah not like me making this why don't you put that into making a movie something creative yeah something that inspires and makes people happy because it's not possible it's not possible that anything that you could create on youtube could do that yeah just make shallow vapid reviews and then make a movie with the creative stuff you idiots also there's no possible way to be creative this is the thing right my line of work i think that this has kind of been highlighted about all the things have been said today but if all seven of us were uh i don't know why i'm saying that gun to our head we have to write a book called the 50 movies of the 2000s to see before you die and it has to be genuine it can't be like faked or rushed you have to really put everything otherwise your whole family's gonna get killed i'd be like okay but you know as much time as you need there's no i'd be like okay and we probably have to fucking plan this all out look at all the movies that came out and then really think and they tell us you get four paragraphs per film like oh i'm just fucking kill me well just kill me yeah we can do it no we can do it it's tight paragraphs yeah it's gonna be tough and i'd be curious to i might even tear them in terms of obscurity because it'd be interesting to do that right like like five tears first ten like these are the ones you probably have seen but even then and you know i say this i might have like a a forward by someone that explains you know the point of the book a bit better than like basically i'm not going to include fucking pirates the carabin or i was about to say the force awakens like well i'm not going to include that anyway but like it's return to the king spider-man two the incredibles none of them are going to be on the list uh and i think it would be essential to have like requirements for making sure that you see a bunch of foreign films as well yeah make sure that you find films from japan korea i'm basically saying non-english language films basically like even yeah german french films well you know like every interesting film that came out in the decades gonna come from america or where was a good bye lenin you know where was good bye lenin on that list where was uh perfect blue it was funny like that prestige didn't make it to the list but that's okay yeah oh yeah yeah oh shit your eye didn't well and that's the thing though i would put prestige on tier one and be like well the reason it's here isn't just that i you know i'm talking about it as a more known movie but i had to include that one because it's like my yeah the essentials yeah and that would be included in the paragraph oh yeah no hot fuzz well shawna the dead i like he does mention that i think i read the shawna the dead when he says like the the corner of trilogy are great but shawna the dead is the best one he says um that's okay that's okay i think that's a fair choice a really good movie that i think oh i can i can easily accept that if someone said world's end i'd be surprised uh now would be surprising that's the keyword because i would be surprised but the same time i love that movie yeah it's great it's great um it's underrated uh i think the best though i think hot fuzz and that was the last film edgar right made uh maybe driver was entertaining all right and had some cool action scenes so well the less we talk about last night on so so ho with the better uh oh fuck um we don't need to talk about that movie off as is indeed the best correct that's okay though it's fine it's fine uh i said i guess on my list i i'm sorry i would be tempted to put a bunch of mainstream shit on my list but i would probably designate designate that to like an honorable mentions thing where it's just like here's a bunch of main ship that i that i really liked but i don't want to put it in the main list because we've all seen this shit oh you could say like you know what the fuck is wrong with you if you haven't seen these yeah it's like but if i don't mention them at all you might think like have you not seen that it's like yeah of course i have but like i'm just setting that aside and saying yes i have seen this we've all seen this but here's in my list here's a bunch of shit that you might have not seen like the chances are like you know maybe you overlook this so well the marvels see and then a lot of people haven't seen that that's true to make a top 50 movies avoid like the plague list yeah that's just a list if you want to remind yourself how bad movies can be you're gonna even bother i after quanta media i fucking checked out well yeah i was gonna say you think to put like we put the marvels on they were put in quanta mania only put in love and thunder on they were put in emma and it's like just put the mcu it's i'm sorry yeah do you think any of those directors to come in back do you think any of them are coming back paint and read remember taika was only there for the paycheck anyway so they might yeah yeah well cause uh sam ramy is maybe right he's a baby i think we can guarantee we'll see another ramy mcu movie i just don't know which one it'll be because apparently he has to choose between an mom sequel and the avengers which i mean at that point you may as well just choose avengers right it's more high profile it's more high profile but you've saddled with the scripts by michael waldron well he was the first time around and apparently that was just wonderful so um yeah i suppose so that's crazy i mean i was mentioning the other day but like isn't it wild that like i'm pretty sure the showrunner for fallout the like the amazon fallout wrote captain marvel and like the tomb raider movie and that's it i was like oh here you go showrun a fallout show and then of course with michael waldron it's like oh what you wrote like one episode of rick and morty and you were like you you were like a script editor on on on community here you go a whole television show and then a whole movie i don't get it i don't understand how you can have such limited experience and then get handed such massive projects the new avengers film as well yeah exactly like it's not that it's impossible that somebody could be handed a massive project like that and make something really good but i don't understand how you can be handed a massive project not do a very good job and then like get more shit i'll understand how that works oh dude i still can't believe that like watching those interviews of the guy who wrote multiverse of madness and i think he wrote quantimania and i think he's the same guy who's lined up to write kang dynasty and oh no he's out now he's uh he's out he's not doing kang yeah now michael waldron's right in both well to set the foundation there is michael waldron wrote mom jeff lovinus wrote quantimania mom made a good amount of money quantimania did not lovinus is out waldron is in for avengers but mom only made the money because a spied man yeah not only that but like that was you can genuinely in the timeline pin point the mom is basically the tail end of superhero movies being cool okay what if um what if mom came out today i think like 300 400 million tops tops yeah yeah absolutely dude they've all failed this year except for like two of them and guardians are very special like out of the fucking it's an anomaly that's easily not only has it been so bad it's well not it's been so bad that i wonder if dc's having conversations right now is this even like a good idea to try and like do this reboot again like is it even worth it to take like these massive chances on a lot of these ones they're not going to at least get a writer who gives a fuck i mean i'm listening to that guy who is doing the interviews and it's just like you it sounds like you don't even care like you just like a job isn't it yeah it's just a oh i was trying to write this and i didn't know how to do this scene but i don't know i figured i threw something something together and it's just like how the fuck did you get this job like is this the best that marvel could do really they couldn't find anybody else who had like a smidgen of more enthusiasm to do this thing like you're the best you you're the decision that they made like we want you to handle the fucking avengers movies i mean i know they have a new guy now but it's just like like the fact that they even got that guy to do multiple multiverse of madness in the first place it's just like come on dude get somebody who cares it sounds like you don't even care that this problem seems to exist and then like whenever something comes along that ends up being great and you look it's like oh wow like somehow you managed to get writers like angles got writers it's got writers who have a back catalog of work of good work that actually get brought together into a team to make something good meanwhile it's like oh yeah go day floaty and john favor here like the tag team coming in with the amazing you had a sniff of the rick and morty script yeah i have the 250 million dollars go ahead fully convinced at this point that if ever they're credited as part of a rick and morty film that is strong rick and morty episode the strong that it was done by man it wasn't there i i can't i can't fathom that the man who wrote the vat of acid episode could write quantamania no that doesn't make any sense to me doesn't yeah doesn't does not just funny in any way chef because like alternatively the person who wrote pickle rick was in charge of she-hulk i'm sure some people say like didn't you say that you know isn't it hard to contextualize prometheus an alien or written by the or rather directed by the same guy and it's like somehow vat of acid and mom seem more contradictory to me it just yes they do i will vat of acid and remember michael waldron wrote the toilet one which uh even when it came out that was one where yeah we weren't sure about but uh vat of acid i feel like i could show anyone here and in the spheres of influence that i have and i think they'd be either the the floor of it would be like yeah that was funny but it could go all the way up to like holy shit that was really good vat of acid is so good um was vat of acid a movie or an episode of something pickle rick is better than uh it was an episode of rick and morty it was the only one that had gone emmy so uh that means jeff lovin this is an emmy award-winning writer oh wow okay what season was that seven four four oh i don't know we don't know anything about after season five exactly that's when we fell off i thought they were on season seven maybe yeah they are they are for the record i don't know if you were about to say this for me but like uh the memes and the culture around pickle rick has damaged its ability to be praised as an episode for its writing it's much better than just him saying i'm a pickle there's a lot more going on in that episode pickle rick is better than she-hulk you can't they're not they're not the same why would he would say it's like level that well it's just because that was the writer of that one oh wait no that that also that also won the emmy didn't it i assume it did i don't know i think pickle oh so yeah emmy award-winning i don't i don't like the pickle rick gag being used as evidence of like shallow writing or whatever i mean i think it's a funny gag it's just like that the grandpa is just so like he just needs to occupy his life with something that he needs to like do he cut it with something like that yeah i i like that joke you know it's a good joke it's funny it's just a blade runner and alien with masterpieces while prometheus and covenant a disastrous pickle rick and vasat acid are not masterpieces yes but the key information you've missed there is mo m is the worst fucking script to exist in film exactly as far as we're concerned it has it is staggering as much as i dislike prometheus and covenant neither of them even put together can scratch the depths of depravity that mo m reaches what a fucked up film is what phase four is and it taught us new new ways of of being the worst thing ever made like that's what happened it was all of these different ways of testing the boundaries for how how incompetently written a story could be before it didn't even constitute one like definitionally it yeah that's the film that said hey you guys want to see read richards and you guys have expressed again and again that you'd like to see uh krasinski as read richards here he is now he's fucking dead he's like okay thanks i guess i was like hey you remember that show that some of you liked either you don't even know what it's referencing or you liked it so the people who liked it and recognize blackbolt hear it dead from being a retard you're like oh okay surely off to introducing incursions to the world a mechanic that broke the multiverse before it even began hey just broke it you guys recovering from seeing professor x get fucking murked by evil logan in logan he's back he's making his first appearance ever again is dead wander killed him in the fucking mind combat the one place where she should not be killing him i hate that movie so much it's so very bad i was uh during christmas i had so we had family over and i was talking with my cousin about movies briefly and uh multiverse of madness brought uh was brought up and i'd said how much i hate it and how shit it is and he said oh i remember going to see uh to see that at the theater and i don't really remember what happened though it's all just kind of an alert to me so it just reminded me as well fucking captain kata i could do this all day dies immediately yeah well done at least captain america says i could do this all day in time with marvel let's just statue fall on her and does nothing to prevent itself from she put her arms yeah but it's statue kills her you know can capture marvel has a statue followers she dies wander absorbed all the because that's something she can do do we know what she actually can do because i don't know i don't care anymore i don't care i don't want to see that character again i'm and yet we probably will of course we will yeah well then again who knows how long is the mc we're gonna last in this current state and i can't keep losing money forever like that's not that's not tenable i can't wait otherwise you turn it bc well you just abruptly end defroser robot chasted in what if they have peggy say no i don't think i will you fucking kidding me man i look forward to never watching don't really like that watch it but i just find it so funny how they keep forcing her to be second fiddle they don't let it be your own thing at all not that any of us are itching for the fucking peggy kata captain kata spin off but at least you should try and make your own two seasons television right i know it's it's just trying to make her a thing and then being like well she says the things that the other guy you like says so therefore you like her right fucking hell so i think uh are we talking about the what if scenario where peggy becomes captain america yeah okay yeah i didn't i didn't see that what if episode i wasn't sure if we were talking about that or captain marvel not a lot of people did in all fairness i'm already like guaranteed for a third season oh jesus it's the lowest uh it's the lowest is it the lowest marvel product on disney plus and yet it gets oh i thought you got to say it's the lowest like place they can grab creativity from i was going to counter with um once they cross franchises once we get doth vader in marvel that's when they're the lowest hey i think i think if uh if uh if black panther was star lord oh yeah was so amazing that he talked thanos out of being a bad guy because black well yeah because tony can't do it doctor strange can't do it uh but obviously if black panther was star lord he'd easily convince thanos to to come down don't do that thanos oh that's a compelling that's a compelling christ stockman argument yes uh don't do it in the front of this story is what i think one of the most recent series of what if stories is what if happy hogan saved christmas yeah that is actually was it in danger apparently it was in danger yeah oh my goodness thank god the happy hogan is in danger of his motherfucking disney marvel products coming out i have a um i have an idea for what if what if we address the massive fucking giant sticking out of the planet earth i mean people keep referencing that but that's that's far down the list of things we need to address how about we address are there an avengers team hello what if we address this black building appeared in this guy and uh judged mankind what about that is there avenger hello is there a team is there even a singular is anyone in control does sword have any control ready of this what's going on i just pulled up the good old wikipedia and this is just a sentence that's in here for season two the first episode of this season what if nebula joined the nova corps hi yeah the question we were all asking is it the tech he was being up at night fringy in the wise genre such as blade runner exploring him nebula joined the nova corps to prove her detective skills while trying to escape that osu! shadow after ronin the accuser deposed him before the events of infinity war oh my god i love the comparison to but it's like ah yes it's like but dude michelle fife is unforgiven that yes that's what everyone who saw quantamania was immediately thinking this is unforgiven this is like this is the life of the career everything was leading to this moment if if you told me that i had to connect those movies in some way and then gave me a week to do it and all the resources i i'd struggle i'd assume that you misspoke oh you mean for given the movie forgiven what was the other one what was the one in our oh that wasn't at the low key season two that compared it to uh breaking bad oh enough breaking bad makes made sense though where did they acknowledge breaking bad as a show in low key season two no just the creators were like saying that that's which they did before they've done that with joker a million times like this is this is kind of like joker you guys like joker this is going to be like joker in terms of i can't remember which film it was but it was referenced like logan and joker with a i don't even think it was r rated but it's just this tired shit where i don't even like it when people say like oh this is kind of like if Jurassic park met the matrix or something you're just like can you just shut up it's a bit tacky isn't it it always comes across that way yeah where you're like well you like this movie it's like that meets that but it just seems really reductive and and kind of silly but especially comparing your story to unforgiven it's like all right chill the fuck out like calm down you know um i was going to say on that no i am i am running out of the steam so uh i feel like we've nailed what this efap became which is a analysis of chris stuckman not what i expected to become but uh no but we i like my only joy in life i feel like i feel like this couldn't have been done with almost anyone else but we've been through his opinions on about what like 30 films or something ridiculous yeah chris is he's kind of he's like a a different milder flavor of movie bob where he's just sort of fascinating i don't think i connect that movie bob is uh a mile a minute saying radical insane things and has takes you've never heard of he's like the opposite of chris yeah i yeah i guess so yeah maybe i was thinking hmm what's the link i'm creating where chris stuckman is at the same time yeah they're both terrible but i think what does chris stuckman remind me of it's just this bland it he's simultaneously somehow very bland and very interesting um almost like the blandness is the interesting element of it considering his background his history on youtube the way that he sees himself in his craft it's really something else it is well that's what do you find uh interesting i don't mean to sound like an asshole i'm just i'm asking like like what uh did you say something that was like oh that's actually a good point like well he i don't think he's capable of being insightful which some people just stumble upon through sheer you know just the mathematics of language you say enough words and you have enough thoughts one of them cover every movie in existence every year as i mentioned earlier like i said i've spoken to many people looking my entire life about movies and i don't know that i've ever encountered the average person say so little as he does consistently and of course the highlight of is that this is his job this is what he has insight into yeah this is his profession soul and so one could argue and i assume that's where i'm just going with this that's interesting how little insight he has is fascinating to the point where we if we had a conversation with him about one of his favorite films i wonder how much of it he would actually be aware of like if take for example if his favorite film was uh fellowship of the ring i wonder if he'd be aware of like baramir's journey at all i don't know there is a when linguine he goes to work at the restaurant he knows nothing about food and cooking right but he learns right he picks up things over time he has someone teach him things he has a willingness to to to grow and to add things to his list of skills but or like if you had to if you had to fake something right if you had to fake being a being anything in any industry like you're infiltrating right you're a hit man or an assassin or or you're faking it like surely you just pick up things you'd absorb information from the fields you're in from the people around you but he's somehow immune to that is the question then is chris stuckman capable of acquiring knowledge that's what i'm kind of getting at like how are you so incapable of like just soaking up information and becoming naturally better at things that you devote a lot of time to that is almost like its own skill like you're that cut off from just the acquisition of knowledge from soaking up the things around you it's legitimately weird yeah right i agree like if i was in his position i would want to go more in depth with like reviews and commentary or whatever but he just he doesn't seem to even have the desire to that that pisses me off more than anything i think maybe it's a maybe he's never got any or felt any pressure to learn or maybe it's just a simple element of he thinks what he's doing really really isn't what he's doing really is like good like he thinks he legitimately believes that he's good you know he's doing a good job this is enough what i'm saying like and it's like no no it isn't dude it's the best image in the world this is the bare minimum that's the thumbnail that's the thumbnail this is what it's fine i will make fun of the thumbnail does not capture the the stream at all now that's a great inside joke but i feel like a lot of people are going to be like what the fuck is that on his head yeah that's the mystery that's the mystery box of this episode you can discover the answer by watching if you go into the fetal position and start to write notes maybe you'll figure it out okay let us the first stuckman the man the myth the legend let us have our guests talk about what they've got coming up we'll start with the wonderful the little platoon that sounded not clunky at all you go ahead nothing i think is the answer finally nothing for the first time in about two years i have nothing that i'm working on so that's that's nice when that video at some point but otherwise the five and a half hour marvel's video will be the last thing i do this year my god and that's available right now it is available right now everyone go go go get on that hey good to good to hear you taking a bit of a break is it yeah for about two weeks at most i'm supposed to be doing that right now with metal um but i've been sneaking in working when he's asleep i can't edit i'm editing into mine yeah i said my message would be like you're not awake yet right with a little smiley face he's like i'm downstairs they're like oh fuck i'll come back out um very well stop working moller how dare you exciting and the little platoon on youtube go check it out because the links are a bit confusing with i didn't know who exactly would be coming in and who wouldn't be today but that's all right john cjg what are you doing well see what are you up to what's happening christmas oh yeah i mean i spent christmas with my mom just watching movies and tv shows it was funny i made a little christmas short for my youtube channel right now i'm working on uh i did an old machinima series called hard justice which is really cringe but i'm rebooting it in hopefully which will be something that's unjust this is funny respectable thank you thank you very much i really appreciate that i do i just i can't look at that back on that personally like i enjoy it but like i'm trying to like take those characters and that premise and make something actually really cool and compelling so like i'm i'm writing a thing i'm cooking something and i'm gonna make like a whole like season of of content that's what i'm working on right now it's not out yet but i'm working on i'm hoping i can get maybe the first out first episode out by february but oh cool yeah that's what i'm working out that's what i'm working on right now john graham on youtube if you want to subscribe to me i do are being the chief i don't know how many times i have to say that but that's that's my thing that's what people know me for so yeah it's really good oh yeah thank you uh as what are you up to what things have you said a good or bad in the world of media somehow months later i've managed to trigger twitter again about uh starfield that for you is our gen nicholson thing it's the it's the that fucking i was about to say sort of down with these no it's more of a what do you say it's a suffician but you don't have to do anything so i don't know if it counts but the point being is that it'll now forever be this reoccurring thing as mel was showing me um we still have viral tweets about fucking jenny nichols and still to this day people but um on the highlights channel wolf uploaded the you know the stream without jenny which which uh someone had done before but with the wolf one it's very easily screenshot-able and linkable which is kind of funny because it's like seven hours when it's not here which compared to the you know that's funny but um yeah it sounds like that one's yours where it's just going to pop up again and again and again and it obviously you could just keep pulling that card of like man i thought you said it didn't matter yeah that's all i have to do it's all i have to do and every time i post that it gets them even more mad it's great it's just that's all i have to say now um i got uh after this is probably glad that starfield makes the most as you're generating the engagement okay look i'm i'm the most interesting thing about starfield and that's really upsetting isn't it as you see those posts right people like what happened to starfield is like oh no all the reviews are negative it's boring um i've got afternoon tea with us tomorrow doing a super chat square up of the real bbc but you're as lavalin and of course because yeah yeah yeah and it's because it's uh it's um new year's eve tomorrow then we should have sunday fun day in the evening and then i will actually be doing a stream taking the uh new zealand i guess through to uh 2024 so it's going to be a very very busy day tomorrow yes serious serious question i keep getting asked by people to ask you okay will you fight slave night gale in ds3 is that going to happen yes okay oh he's a fucking good fight i'm just saying yeah very good very good but what he's going to leave ds3 without doing no i uh i uh i will return nice oh return of the king oh get that little paper crown get the happy meal crown do it beautiful uh the metal what are you up to your lad i'm currently right below you that's what she said oh my god why'd you tell him don't tell him actually i'm on my vacation right now i don't do sneaky editing here i'm just sleeping and drinking a lot which i'm enjoying what we can let people know is that we will be doing gaming and drinking streams will happen soon yes um we didn't talk about it today but maybe we will on another stream but we've been up to some fun antics we've been throwing axes watching films playing games drinking it's been a whale of a time but we shall hell yeah one of the plans is to play simpson sit and run and take shots whenever we die or whatever so yeah another one of those aren't they make all crazy taxi is crazy taxi coming back or they should make another sense yeah yeah the game awards they announced a slew of 3d games based on the sega's old like franchises shinobi crazy taxi there's got to be some good in there that would be nice yeah um i'm not really doing anything right now but when i'm back home and my vacation is over i'll be i'll be i'll be going back to the mines myself forges are coming back more gaming streams i think next game we're going to stream is probably going to be robocop finally because i was been gifted to me by james it was very nice he gave that to me for crimbo so that's going to be the next game we're going to stream and yeah forges are going to be coming back i already started making the list what's coming up over the year so yeah i'm i'm cooking soon not right now i'm just drunk bring it rungo what up what happened in the world of you guys oh i don't want to make any promises or anything yet but who knows what'll happen i'm just working you know how it goes just working just working away all right well and as for me what i was editing is that uh i got i was about to say this is bad news it's news it's bad news somewhat the uh the lord the rings you've had movies did indeed get hit and it's completely demonetized which was the thing i was desperately trying to avoid so that the extensive work that was done could at least be given that level of compensation but at the same time you know uh drinker had suggested uh to me and it's something i've been trying to set up splitting the whole thing up into topics right i think i've talked about this on my one of my god of war streams but the idea will be that you go through and collect all the clips where we talk about ian mckellan as gandalf and gandalf as a character or sean beans performance and baramir as a character you collect them up and put them into their own videos they could be anywhere from 10 minutes to 40 minutes and they're all split into topics so like the production or the world building or something like that and you know release them all as individual videos so that they could be monetized only just with with simple ads right that's just it just helps churn the channel so that we can have reason to build things that don't cost the channel from being up in the first place so that's something to uh that i'm working on just trying to it takes a lot longer than i thought it would have i should have anticipated it but it's okay that's what i'm entooling away at it's basically just sorting it all out and crushing it all together but something i was considering and i'm 50 50 on it was uh recording the premiere chat and then incorporating that whenever the template for e-fap is available in the e-fap movies so the chat is in there if you know what i mean from the previous one and re-uploading with again a slightly harsher copyright or we just leave it as it is demonetized that those would be the two options i have and uh i was gonna ask for uh people's input even chat's input what do you think um pick up chat oh i thought we were waiting for chat but it's chat and you guys so i am i think that's a really good idea i think that uh i like it you know when we discussed it it seemed like a neat idea and i approve of it this editing in live chat sounds like it might actually be like a decent amount of work it will be that'll take me at least three days mirror in mind yeah it it makes me wonder how the fuck youtube's copyright detection system works great thought to have because i've been doing this for six years and i still don't fucking know what the hell's going on if drinker is recommending that you split the video up as if that alone would fix the issue i wonder if that like youtube is operating in such a way that it's sort of accumulating um all this sort of copyrighted copyright detected material like over a span of time where it's just like if it exceeds x amount of seconds over the total duration of the video then it's like here's a claim fuck you what if you were to like someone i've discovered it is actually wacky but like one of the best representations of it is fringy did the editing correct me from wrong for all of mando season three yeah yeah all season three the way it works is fringy will do is uh copyright coverage then i'll proof them and i'll cover anything that i think is like oh that's risky i might put something in that all of them are cleared by me and they all go up they're all still monetized or you know demonetized for swearing which the yellow one a lot of people say that's the same as not monetization at all but it's you know a tier above that i i guess at least in fucking claims but uh i put them all together because what we usually do is have the big supercut so that people can watch it all in one big video if they want to i couldn't do it with the mando i put it up and it's it had a copyright claim for every episode so a rare fucking like eight or seven however many episodes there were claims i was like what the fuck like there's no claims on the individuals and so i cover them all up i'm like okay re-upload and another seven to eight claims come up and it's like what the fuck is going on and so the only conclusion i have and this applies to the lord the rings video because i uploaded individual hours as did the editors uh somewhat that were working on them and then i uploaded individual films being fellowship two towers returning the king and um i was at the point where fellowship and two towers were clear returning the king was still being worked on but we were rushing i explained this in the other refab we had put up together fellowship and two towers were getting claims it's like but they weren't on their own which were two hour and 40 minute videos i had that same problem because i was doing mando three as well and the second part of that was that video was four and a half hours long i think it was in parts it didn't get anything in total it got a claim every time i tried it but i just thought fuck it i'm just gonna appeal it and go straight to like the top appeal and no one ever really checks those things so it always goes through so i just went straight for yeah fuck you well it's fair use yeah it's the wackiest fucking shit to get used to because there is no guidebook on this nobody ever says like by the way if you're making a 10 minute video you can have clips as long as seven seconds or whatever however it's dependent on the people who published it or whatever bots are running but nobody ever told me that if you're making a video over an hour it's the mid-level bots and if you make over a video over three hours then you get the harsh bots to the point now where it's so fucking ptsd adducing that like the recommendation i have for my editors now on any of these videos is never go above four seconds ever and i i know that some people could be like oh come on it's like no i know i know but don't the uh for anyone who's curious i did a rough fucking run through of the trilogy after the golem incident which i can still we'll show you that eventually if you really want to see it nothing special it's just golem footage for three minutes but after that happened as uh fringing rags and mel know very well i painstakingly went through with a measurement chart thing in vegas to make sure no clip went over 4.2 seconds i considered that the absolute maximum what got hit and you can still see this because the video's still there in uh in helms deep when rag says it's really neat that when the volleys are firing that there is a spritz of water that it really feels like all the rain is actually affecting everything you see the clip that lasts about two seconds of legolas and others doing it and all the orcs getting hit and then i repeat the visual for about two seconds in slow emotion while he's saying that that selection what i just described got hit with copyright that's so fucked up i don't it's so fucked up it's so dumb once you get to a certain size on youtube youtube needs you need to be able to send something to youtube that says look i'm an established movie reviewer and i use movie footage in my movie reviews i need to have some level of protection against this ridiculous system it should be fucking transparent like what are they have to lose that would be great you know this is why i was tagged this is the reason why or you just need to say there are there are these flat rules or something but it's ridiculous how it's been going on for this long and you can take all of these steps and it still gets hit and then there is from studio to studio as well which is like it's impossible to know which studio is going to have the top level of the algorithmic check applied to it the ones that i will use insane yeah like longer videos for other properties will be fine using longer clips peter pan was the worst one i think i've ever had a problem with and that was all the the original cartoon version and it got to the point because i was trimming it down it's like seven second clip okay fine five second clip oh fuck sake okay fine i'll get rid of all of those two second clips and at that point it was like i think the way they're doing it is percentage of total content used over the entire video and any clip beyond that certain percentage will then be flagged even if it's one second long because that was certainly the experience i have with that video but again at that point i just went you fuck it this is impossible to make this video so again appeal and go right to the top straight away and it risks the strike but the strike never comes because i don't think anyone actually checks within the seven days they just look like has someone actually filled out the form yeah okay it's probably right then we'll just pass that over and regardless of clips used in videos when it actually comes down to the film itself i am a big believer that any company that puts out promotional marketing material in the form of video that should be not subject in any way to copyright because that is marketing right i agree and that's why a lot of people just that's what it should that's what should be brought in if you're putting that out as your promotion as your marketing anybody should feel free to use that in whatever context they want because it's about advertising the product yeah so that's the paid but you guys could expect a set of fun sort of snippeted videos of different discussions we had on that recording and all of them should be pretty straightforward to monetize because i assume being shorter means that the fucking bots will be more chill with them and once all of them come out i will then try according it seems like most people unanimously agree to be cool to re upload it with the chat integrated so you know give me two weeks probably to get all of that done and it'll go back up again finally enough people don't even remember this that well but the return of the king first one that me rags and wolf did that is a re upload uh because the first one got struck down that was before well before i was more acquainted with how fucking awful the copyright is and um yeah i mean in future all the editors are basically just going to be told four seconds never more even the ones that thing like no no no i've got always just no never more than four never more i did cheat with the marvel's video because there were just cats dancing around the screen for most of the long clips in that video and it uses it but they're flurkins in the mcu these days so that's still like thematically on point oh if if theoretically i had a long video in the works that was covering a piece of media theoretically of course is all purely it's not actually happening this is all this is all alleged but i would just be like you know what eight nine ten second clips fucking sue me do it um but you know who knows who knows what will also part of the problem because we've suggested that is that we don't actually know what the definitive ruling on a lot of what we do on efap would actually be uh i believe ethically speaking we are a billion percent in the clear but like in an actual if we actually went to court which by the way would be a fucking nightmare because you wouldn't get like efap content at all for a whole two years or however ridiculous it would be um you know it you don't actually know exactly where it will lie when push comes to shove which is part of our criticism of people like xqc or whoever who are really fucking pissing off the the people who we don't want anywhere near all of this because they might make it so much so much worse yeah um we could be in the golden age of copyright for all we know that's kind of the way we're putting it yeah especially for gaming the fact that i can use a whole game everything about it like i can upload that's like that's like that's an industry that i find amazing like you can upload as i did a super cut of the story in a game that's mainly story and monetize it in that in that nuts like that's just something you can do and i feel like uh the more time goes on gaming ost yeah you can upload the fucking album for a game and make money for me yep because it's a game so it's a game ost so all those insane bangers in the games and stuff put it out there it's whatever it's a game soundtrack so it's it's it's clear yeah what i'm saying is um but woe to ye who plays fallout on a stream and wanders near a radio where copyrighted real music plays woe to ye who does that that stream belongs to me now the ghost of i realize i can't believe i didn't mention this already but uh das bullshit was the one exclusively who edited the home alone two eva movies here sweat and blood went into a lot of that he got it done right on the dot that's it was you know it had to be moved to the next day because it wasn't quite fast enough but um the man was dying making that and i appreciate every last piece of work he did for it and he said to me like has it passed copyright and i was like yep yep yep wait a minute and it didn't and i was like oh well that's okay i mean he really tried hard he did it fast you must have missed something and uh i hadn't really fully looked at it i took a screenshot out of it because he had asked for it and i posted it to him which i'm posting in our group now and then i was like wait a minute like i i i deliberately play everything pretty quietly when recording them and it's like a song das knows really well to avoid songs getting uh clipped this is won't tell your boyfriend song by rubin stunner and i checked it it's not present in home alone two nor any memes it is a song that has nothing to do with anything to do with home alone two i also had the same problem with the marvel's video there's a bit of it's in a copyright claim at the moment i thought just okay i'm just gonna put it up anyway because it's music related the bit where where tony stark flicks his glove when he has the glove on flicks his fingers there's rumbling sound in the background and some random band i've never heard of apparently claimed that as part of a song that they made like but it's not that i don't even know who you are and it's not in the video so i think you might have made a mistake there this one's bad but it gets even worse we've talked about before but i was just gonna say so this is currently happening on the home alone video which is now in escrow i swear to fucking god if they push back when their song isn't even in here it's absolutely absurd but uh the worst version and this has happened on my last time i remember well sorry the first time i remember dealing with this was the god of war 2018 play through my first one where it was like uh copyright footage has been found and i was like that's odd uh but maybe it's you know like a you know like bloods on the stone is that what it's called blood in the stone blood on the stone a lot of nonsense no um that song i think can get hit with copyright but none of the other ones because it's much more of an official thing and i was like oh it may be something like that where a song a part of the soundtrack is actually getting it like checked it it was like no it is another let's player who is uh monetizing his own content and it matches enough of the video game's cut scene that he has now claimed that is his that is now claiming money all the way through and i was like fucking hell that's like that's like parasites eating parasites like the fucking game companies would be like excuse me you're taking money off the person who should be i should be paid anyway it's like what the fuck is this in an old video i once used as background as a background song a piece of music when i had uh talked to the guy who made the song and he said no my stuff's not on content id it's all good use it however you want it's out there for you cool great uh the the video goes up and then a long time later i get a notification of an old video where someone took that song against it without any permission or anything that they did take that song and then they decided to like make like sing lyrics over it and then they put that into the content id system so that it claimed my you know my usage of the original song which was just an instrumental of course i fought it and i won and then i told the guy that there's this russian dude out there doing that to your stuff so it just shows how insanely broken the system is you can just take people shit and then put it in content id yourself fuck it who cares youtube just lets you do whatever and then we all lose yeah remember when i put my first video out back in the day on which one and just got stricken down completely by some random turkish company that was fun turkish really doing a lot to help the reputation i see if i'm if i may add to this i i made an episode of my eighth season of arby and the chief where i made a track myself where it contained three notes looped it was like narrow narrow and then youtube matched that as a bon jovi john bon jovi song jesus and i was just okay like i made this track but like are you really going to patent like three fucking notes like replayed over and over like in like a four bar sort of schematic or whatever i don't know what the right word to use this but like just like arpeggio and yeah something like that yeah where it's just like i feel like i'm not trying to copy anybody's song here this is three notes that i'm just like repeating over and over but it detected no you're playing the bon jovi song as a bon jovi song and then all of a sudden i couldn't like i i i mean whatever whatever the system is fucking broken it is it really is it's you're thrown onto a minefields blindfolded arms tight around your back and the mines change position every second yeah it's indistinguishable they they seem to have spent an insane amount of money google has on a content id system that is indistinguishable from randomness so good job google you did it you saved copyright and on that note we're gonna get out of here okay uh you shall find more videos we'll be pouring on to the moodlet channel as soon as they're all getting past the issues as presented tonight and uh well this one will be up pretty quickly i'd imagine and we're also about to pitch about manual copyright claims but fuck it that can be for a different day oh it can go on for fucking ever it's absurd that's the thing man especially when you've worked on something for so long and you've reached the finish line of the video it's like oh the adventure's just begun for copyright you're like oh for fuck sake hey molly you'll appreciate this you before we just before we go you know when you get the notifications we've matched copyright we think you know these channels have taken your content yeah you know you get those notifications i get them i get them all the time for nerder on it i'm just like one day one day i should just grab one of gary's videos gary's stealing your content but all right thank you so much for watching this is technically the new year's eve eve you guys will have a wonderful new year we'll see you then yes and uh i was about to say you could expect coverage of movie x and y but you know what i don't actually know exactly what we're doing yet so get excited for the mystery box that will be open who knows but we'll probably do what was supposed to be this episode next time we literally intro this episode as being what it was gonna be that didn't happen so we're gonna do it next week it'll be great one at all but thanks for being here folks and uh yeah see you next time bye bye see you next time bye bye