 Good morning My name is Vernon Smith, and I'm research services workplace culture and training manager You just heard from archivist of the United States David Ferriero. I Also welcome you to the 2019 virtual genealogy fair Before we begin our six sessions I have three helpful tips on how to participate with chat and access the captioning in the handouts First because we are broadcasting live You can chat with the other family historians and ask presenters questions First log into YouTube and then type your comments and questions there Speakers will answer chat questions at the end of their talks during the question and answer time Secondly for live captioning find the provided link on this page below the video screen Open the link in a separate browser window, and if you don't currently see the link simply click where it says show more Thirdly for handouts Look for the links provided on this page After the event the video presentations and handouts will remain available And I am now turning over the lectern to Andrea Matney the coordinator of the virtual genealogy fair Andrea Thank you Vernon Welcome, and hello. My name is Andrea Matney Please know that Vernon Smith my and my co-worker Amber Forrester and I are Responding to the YouTube chat and will be the voices of your questions at the end of each session So welcome to session of first session of the 2019 virtual genealogy fair exploring history hub for genealogists and researchers by presenters Rebecca Collier Darin Cole and Kelly Osborne They'll be introducing history hub the National Archives crowd source platform for history and genealogy Research including some background guidance for getting started and how to join the community Miss Collier is the research services history hub coordinator at the National Archives in College Park, Maryland Mr. Cole is a digital engagement specialist at the National Archives in Washington, DC Miss Osborne is a community manager and web developer at the National Archives in College Park, Maryland I am now turning the broadcast over to Kelly Osborne Thanks, Andrea. So History hub is our crowdsourcing platform for researchers here's kind of what the the What it looks like it's Not just for genealogists. It's for people who are also researching any kind of historical like documents or if they have questions about about military records Here's what it looks like when you go to history.gov It's very simple and Darren's going to show you later like kind of how it works on the homepage you can see a list of blog posts that are really helpful They're kind of our first stop for answering questions Some a lot of people are interested in finding out about it a Native American ancestor It's very complicated. So we have a blog post that kind of outlines first steps And you can see a list of recent questions and then you can see a list of communities that we have For example, we have our researchers help. It's kind of our catch-all for like if you don't know what you're Who can best answer your question just throw it in their researchers help and we'll redirect it So history hub is a platform where people can get answers from multiple sources You can ask a question and we've got people on the on the site who are like professors of history Amateur genealogists like a whole community of citizen experts people who are writing books people who are professional researchers It's also a knowledge base that scales and improves with time So you can ask a question and then see how other people answered it People can come back months later or even years later and add additional information It's also the result of ongoing research that we did into how organizations communicate with and serve their audiences We looked at a lot of federal agencies and also Outside the federal sphere So history hub the idea of it is based on trends and consumer research And it's powered by the same platform as the Apple support community So like if you have a question and you're not sure who has the answer most likely you will Google it and If it's you know if it's about a technology Problem it will take you to a community very similar to history hub So to kind of give you an example that is a relatable real-world example. That's outside of outside of history hub and I had a laptop that started making a disturbing noise. It's a very old MacBook. I love it It's a workhorse, but it's very old So started making this hideous beeping noise right before I had a big presentation where I had to like take it off So I googled why is my laptop making this weird beeping noise This is comparable to the research question that we would get in history hub Like how do I find whatever? So I Google it and I find this is a common problem My MacBook Pro is making a beeping noise. It was just like that. So I click the link This is kind of comparable to the Lucky Tracen is comparable to the researcher on history hub and you can see that this is a common problem So the person asked the question Why is it doing this? Within minutes they got a response from a citizen expert This was exactly the answer to my problem and then someone provided additional information that was helpful But it didn't show up in my original search So this was hugely successful for me. I asked a specific research question. I got an answer within minutes seconds really and the people who Who helped me were not the not Apple staff Which is important for the National Archives because if you are if you ask a question of the archives and you have You it's going to take a while for an archivist to be assigned to it and work through their Work through their workload to to respond So additionally the answer is available to anyone who googles a similar research question Which so this kind of paradigm has set user expectations not just for for tech problems, but for like knowledge in general for For problems in general people want to be able to ask a specific question instead of like reading you can I could read the Mac manual Which I'm never going to do ever. I want to be able to know exactly what the problem is asking a specific question and I want to get help pretty immediately. I don't care who the answer comes from and I want to be able to ask follow-up questions and have follow-up information Appended easily and I want to be able to search and find the answer easily because I'm not going to Like I don't want to have to search for it. I kind of I want to I don't want to have to spend a whole lot of time finding my answer So I'm going to turn it over to Rebecca Collier who's going to kind of talk about the problems that history hub can solve for for genealogists Thank You Kelly So what problems can history hub solve? At the National Archives we respond to over 25,000 25,000 non-personnel related questions a year on a one-to-one basis either by email Snail mail or telephone plus in-person consultations to one of our research rooms Many of the questions are similar and our responses for the record same records over and over again They may seem different to you, but they are the same for us Here's an example on history hub of a request that was made about a NATO operation and Since the US Navy was involved we offered Declogs for part of the information. Declogs are one of our very popular records But they don't contain all the information oops Sorry So much for me doing this right They'd always provide a complete answer to questions because the answers may be somewhere else As you can see we've referred the researcher to me to the Navy historical command the NATO archives for records in their custody that may Contain the rest of the information that they need to complete their research Here's another example of a request that probably won't be in the custody of NARA But we let the researcher know that there's various universities and the university and the Library of Congress Has information on their topic. So we don't leave you on limbo Here's an example of the Library of Congress Manuscript division responding to a request and Here's an example of a researcher sharing what they know with another researcher and The researcher who got the information was very appreciative So what are our goals with history hub? It's an additional tool that we can use to assist researchers and genealogists in a different way for them to connect with us Responses to request are not limited just in our staff But also the general public who have conducted Research can also answer To things that they've already looked at and are willing to share what they know Over time a knowledge base will be compiled and not only will this help with customer service But also meet the needs of knowing an answer in less time than they're currently receiving and we hope Eventually this will help decrease our reference load and what are the most popular communities? the military records is by far the most popular and it has everything from the Revolutionary War to the present genealogy Which covers everything from immigration naturalization census are and other records that are at the National Archives plus birth death and marriage records that are not researcher help which is Basically a catch-all as Kelly mentioned, but it's geared to our civilian agencies such as State Department FBI justice except and for those Concerning Native Americans or African Americans We have special communities set up for those questions and those topics because they have a unique Community that is interested in them and the Library of Congress has a community called crowd on our site And they have this for their transcription project NARA also has a transcription project under the community called citizen archivist and Darren will tell you how to use history hub Thanks, bucky. I'm going to give you a quick introduction. It's a sort of how to search and navigate around history hub As Kelly showed us earlier, this is what the homepage looks like and really the main feature of the homepage is that search bar right there That's where you can go ahead and type in your question when you first come to the site and as this demonstrates you just start typing in your question into the search bar and Then the system will automatically start suggesting potential questions and answers that may be related to your question So hopefully one of those suggested questions there that pop up will actually help answer your question right away So you won't have to search any further So if you click one of those links on one of those suggested questions, I'll wait for it to pop up here It takes you down to the question page and the first thing it asks you is does this help to answer your question? Yes or no and take me back Or you can search the entire community in more depth So let's say maybe you're not happy with that search result you can actually use the main search Button in the top right hand corner of the page And that will help search the entire site. So not just questions, but also blog posts and other content on the site and Then that will take you to the main search results page And that will give you options to filter your search results. You can filter it by The date how recent it is how relevant you can restrict results by author or by community and help to filter your results that way Now let's suppose that question was not Was not answered by some of those suggested options So then you go ahead and type your question you say my question does not have an answer yet in this instance And then you just click the ask button Now we're going to assume that you're probably not logged in and in order to post a question or post any content on history Hub everyone needs to have an account That kind of helps cut down on spam and anonymous posts and issues like that So you'll see this prompt to either log in or create an account And so now we'll cover our really briefly how to create an account on history hub So you see this page where you can either log in or if you don't have an account We'll assume that's the that's the case here You just go ahead and enter your email address and what will happen is the system will then send you a confirmation Registration link to your email So all do you want to do is open your email and click that confirmation link and that will take you back to the site and It will provide you with the create your account page And it has some basic fields there that you're probably familiar with first name last name username email and you also have to create a password and One of the issues users sometimes have is creating a password that meets our requirements and because we're a federal site We have heightened security requirements and users do sometimes have an issue with that So there are some basic minimum Requirements you need to meet you have to have a lower case letter uppercase letter number special character a minimum of 12 characters And then you have to enter the CAPTCHA code down there and again that prevents bots and other automatic registrations from spam bots and things like that, but it's a fairly simple process and Now that you're logged in you'll see the home page again, and you'll see some custom user links in the upper right hand corner You'll see a link that will take you to your notifications in inbox And you'll see a link that will take you to your profile and preferences page And if you click the notifications link, this is sort of what your inbox will look like You'll see if you're following various discussions. You'll see announcements about those And you also get various prompts from the system such as how to update your profile and user avatar and other options like that and if you click the the profile link you'll get options such as how to adjust your user preferences and other options Now let's say you follow the link to customize your user profile. You have the option to upload a Profile photo and that's entirely optional. You also have the option to choose a user avatar that helps sort of customize your content and again, that's also entirely optional you have the option of selecting from one of these sort of pre-chosen Images from NARA records or you can upload your own and again one caveat is that all user content Whether it's a post or a photo or user avatar all of that is all Moderated for appropriateness to meet our user standards Here's how you set your user preferences For example, the system will email you with various notifications and you can set how often or if you get emailed at all by the system For various updates such as if your question gets answered or if there's activity on another question that you've been following Now I want to get to the crux of the issue which is asking that question that you had originally So we're back on the home page. We start typing in our question into the search box And again presuming there's not another question that already answers it We'll go ahead and click that ask button And then that will take us to the question page And this is how you write a a good question post There are some kind of tips and guidelines that we offer to help people write an accurate question that helps you get a more Expedient and more accurate response Number one you want to use is succinct and descriptive title. Don't type your entire question into the title box Try to summarize it as best you can Here are some key details you want to include and these really help us to narrow down the type of records. We're looking at Number one. Who are you researching? What do you already know about them? These are really important details to share Where did they live? When do you think they lived who might have been their relations and ancestors and also super important Is where have you already searched what other archives and libraries and sources? Have you already checked so that we don't repeat that and make you you know backtrack down an avenue? You've already pursued Do you have any helpful images? Maybe you're trying to decode a census page and you can't decrypt some of the text Maybe you want to upload that and get some help from the community trying to figure out what that text actually says You can go ahead and upload a photo of that or add a link to where you found other information already and one important Aspect to note is please do not include what we call PII and that stands for personally identifiable information in the government And that really that means like social security numbers and other direct personal information such as that That would be stripped out, but it's just easier not to include it to begin with Again add any helpful images you might have and Then there's a you can see the small photo button and that's how you would go about adding an image to your post and If you scroll down you can choose the community or place where you want to post your question The system will default to researchers help but for the cases of this audience I assume you'd probably want to post it in the genealogy community But again our moderators will usually help to sort and organize those questions When they come in and redirect them if necessary and again as I mentioned all content is moderated according to our community guidelines Questions are moderated in the order they come in depending on our workload and the Volume of questions we're receiving moderation can take a couple days There is no moderation over our weekends or federal holidays days like that Questions may be edited for clarity or again to remove content such as PII Now getting response now. Hopefully you've asked your question and someone might have a response for you right away So here's an example. We have a researcher question asking about naturalization records And here you can see a response below that and that comes in from a national archives expert staff member and all National archives responses are indicated by that small little blue icon that sort of shows the columns of the main archives building So that way you kind of know that you're getting an answer from an expert The average response time from an our expert can take a few days often three to four working days Now responses from other community members may come in more more quickly again They don't have the same workload and hopefully they might have a Direct answer for you fairly soon And once you get your answer you can go ahead and click was this helpful or not And that sort of helps us to gauge the quality of our answers. You can click the helpful yes button And maybe you have some additional information you need to include So for example, you've asked a question and our expert has responded and they need more information to sort of pursue your Question, so you just click that reply button and post a follow-up response below that one important Issue to point out is that when you get a reply to your question, you will probably get an email Depending on your notification preferences an issue users often have as they will reply directly to that email Please don't do that that will go into a dead-end mailbox What you need to do is come back to history hub and post your reply on the site Otherwise, we won't receive your response and here you can see the follow-up response from the researcher with their additional information and Then the follow-up to the follow-up from the NARA staff member Now responding to a question now Maybe you're on the community and you see a question where you know You've already been down that road and you can answer and provide some helpful information to the other researcher, which is great We really encourage that We really need your help and you know the more information we can provide from the community the better it makes for a richer More useful site for everybody So you see a question that you think you can help with and you'll see the reply button down in the lower right hand corner of that question So you just go ahead and click that and You'll see the response field and it's it's not unlike the post-a-question field a lot of the same functionality You can embed links you can embed helpful images And anything that you think will help answer the question to the other researcher Now navigating history hub. We've seen a bit of the site already So we'll show you just a few more aspects to kind of help acclimate you Again, this is the home page just below the search bar and you'll see a list of recent blog posts You'll see a list of the most recent questions and on the right hand side You'll see a list of all the various communities Again, which Becky covered such as researchers help and military records and genealogy Which again is probably the community of most interest to this audience Should go ahead and click that and we dive into the genealogy community And this is what that home page looks like you'll see a list again of the most recent questions on the left You'll see a shortcut to the ask a genealogy Question field and then you also see a list of featured content Which is often recent blog posts and we'll put up blog posts to kind of provide More detailed information on certain popular research topics to provide users a little more information So we try to list those in the right hand side there Now maybe you want to filter the content a little more and see what else is going on in the genealogy community You can click the content button and this will show all the content and you can filter that You'll see various filters there. You can also see a list Listing the views and the number of replies that each piece of content has received so you can kind of gauge The popularity see where every really active conversation is happening that you want to help out with Now getting help and technical support Issues do pop up and we're always available to help and we do have a community setup to sort of provide some basic Technical responses and help deal with various issues that you might encounter So if you go to the technical help and support community again, you'll see a list of recent help topics that have popped up you'll see a Question bar and you'll also see a list of featured content and that really covers a lot of the common issues that users might encounter And hopefully that will help answer your your issue right away That's not always the case. So if you need additional help For example, maybe you're unable to create your account So you can't even get to the point where you can post a question You have an account and you're having trouble logging in You're having difficulty creating a post Or also, um, maybe you represent an organization And uh, you're interested in sort of partnering with history hub Maybe getting your your organization engaged in our community on um on history hub and we'd love to hear about that Please contact us But if you have any of those issues, uh, please go ahead and email us at history hub at nara.gov And that's purely just for these types of questions. Please do not email us research questions. We won't be able to respond So please join us participation is open to anyone Please sign up for an account ask your question Please help us to answer someone else's question. We would love to have your help. We would really encourage that So please go ahead and join us so you can visit us at history.gov And I'd like to see if there's any questions Wonderful. Thank you so much to all three of you. Thank you very much for your presentation We do have some questions that have come in from our online audience Starting at the very beginning as soon as you started talking So we have a question one. What platform is used by hub librarians in data collection? example Excel or specialized software So is there a particular platform that you're using for data collection? Um, I'm not sure I understand the question. So if the person wants to um, clarify, um, the There's not data collection, but the underlying software Is jive. It's the same, um, or or they were bought recently and it's the same software that's used by Apple support community and I think a couple of the other bigger tech companies So all of the data resides on history hub That's that's helpful. Thank you. We do have another question that's related It says can a history hub widget be integrated Into a website or app? Oh, that's a cool question. Um, you it does Generate rss feeds. So if you're able to embed From an rss feed It doesn't have a native app Do you want to add anything to that? No, I mean if you if you browns archives.gov, you'll see a few instances of the rss widget where we've got embedded Questions relevant to those certain pages. So on the genealogy page, you'll see a list of of current history hub genealogy questions And that's really just coming from an rss feed. So that's able to be embedded Um, almost anywhere. Uh, there's not sort of a more Dynamic widget which allows you to ask questions from a separate site Okay, thank you Because all three of you are out there our audience is asking you to speak a little bit louder. I'm sorry. So Go on to the next question. Um This is generally, you know, there's all kinds of questions that you get and this person asks Are there old maps quote unquote old maps available for states like new mexico that show the boundary changes For that state. So is that the type of question that you can have answered on history hub? Uh, we can actually yes and no will guide you to cartographic The cartographic branch that's out of the national archives if the record was of the change of Boundary or whatever was done through federal records, then they should have the map But other than that we might look on google and see if there there is a map available there And give you a choice of how to how to find it. So that's an example of a Research question that you might ask and that's an example example of a research question You might received we don't have the data on history hub We are answering questions about the national archives records and holdings and where Where you might find your information? Unless it's already scanned and put on a catalog and we'll look for there too And if we find a map or or whatever that we'll answer your question We'll put the url into the response so that you can find it Thank you for that thorough answer. I'd also like to put in a plug at this time for our session Number six, it's at 3 p.m. Eastern as part of the genealogy fair We're going to have james moon speaking About land records in particular about homestead act But if you're still with us at that time you might want to Check in with us again and ask that same question Going back to the questions specific for the history hub We have a question here how a question about questions How many questions have been asked are public reports available on history hub metrics? Do we have those available publicly? I'm not sure if we have them available publicly. Um, and how many questions? Whoops, we'll just start tipping that forward. Um, we've had uh, let's see how many so far Yeah Yeah, a couple thousand questions so far Um, actually over the pat we started this in january of of 2016 And during our first year we got roughly 200 questions On the following year we got about 400 questions and in 2018 we got about 800 questions this past year We up to this point we have gotten 1600 so it seems to be doubling And so we're very happy at that and those answers and and the questions are still in history hubs So if you ask the question even if it was ants, you know answered two or three years ago It will come up and you can see the response Okay, so a couple thousand a couple of thousand a handful of thousands It sounds like it's growing exponentially Yeah, it's over 2000 Okay, thank you Uh, going on to the next question that we have from our online audience They say i'm seeing a in the genealogy overview And then quotes seeking records on Name are those names compiled into a list? So again in the genealogy overview are those names compiled into a list? They're not compiled into a list, but they are indexed by um by the search and by google So if you're thinking that there's a list of here's a number of people who have been searched. Um, that doesn't exist now Okay, i'm going to give our online audience a moment to see if any more questions come up Oh, here we go. We have something uh, I get frequent questions from second or third generation farm workers Whose relatives came into the us under the radar during world war one and two Can you suggest resources? So again resources for second and third generation farm workers whose relatives came into the us under the radar during world war one and world war two Hmm, that's an interesting question and usually the person that I will send that question to to get her ideas Are lisbeth birds and she has a session later on today and uh, so if if you'd like to Re saying that question to elizabeth she'll be able to give you some better ideas than I can off the cuff But that's also a good example of a question to ask on history hub where it can be routed to a an archivist who can help Okay, uh, one of the first questions you got, uh, and I think it's worth reiterating They asked is the history hub curated content or is it more like wiki where any participant can update the content? It's not like wiki. It doesn't operate like um, you wouldn't be able to go back and edit someone else's response It's more like um, like a support community So not a wiki, but a support community where you would have someone ask a question And then their question exists as a discreet kind of thing and then You can have answers from from nara staff or from the public or from citizen experts so the um, the information that is is kind of grown from the question not as a discreet article Okay, and you can go back and and edit your own request And you can also edit your own reply, but only the writer can do that. Okay Oh, that's helpful to know and then Responding to another question. Someone was asking about finding family in civil war again. I would say, you know That's a good kind of if you can make a specific question for the online audience there then Um, ask your question on history hub So going back to the actual questions here, um Are the questions in history hub organized by national archives locations and documents held by the locations or by research topics Currently it's arranged by topic And so we pick broad topics that people can do rather than worrying about what the archive structure is Yeah, the archive structure is meaningless to most of the general public We probably care, but like we at the national archives care more than the public So if you ask a military question, you won't know what part of nara it comes from until the response is done And we'll say you need to go to these records or to these records and this unit has them That is helpful because if you're not with the national archives, you'll hear us referring to record groups And so that can be confusing. So it is helpful to have it under topics So going back to our questions, um The question is what is the library of congress crowd community on history hub? It is so cool. If you get a chance to check it out, please do. Um, they have this transcription tool that is for transcribing their records and Basically, it's a community of library of congress transcribers who they're just you can Sign up for an account on the library of congresses site yourself and Transcribe their documents and it's great because and and also for please do for the national archives as well but It helps because a lot of these when you digitize records Transcription is not always part of that. It usually isn't part of that. So We rely on people to kind of The the benefit of transcribing is that it becomes something that's searchable. It's um more portable information Yeah, so the library of congress, they have a really great community of people who are actively engaged in Transcribing and then talking to each other about the problems that they're having or if they have questions It's a pretty cool community And if you look at 18 and 19th century records, the handwriting can be unusual And and the spelling can be unusual Especially prior to 1850s. So the transcriptions help people understand the contents of the records a lot better Okay, so I want you to listen closely to this Next question that I have because it's about paper and record keeping How can we research black americans suffering from paper genocide? Records not in the on paper Who cannot trace their past from the early 1800s That is a great question to ask on history hub as well because that um That's the kind of question that is um so interesting and kind of broad and it's not really um You really want to be able to uh devote some time to it, but And also um on nara's website itself. We have a black history Uh section of our website if you kind of click down and and and go To where it says african americans And it is a wonderful source that archivists from the national archives have put together and really You know, they have explained, you know, how you can find things, you know, uh Especially, you know about slavery and about your family if you're trying to to figure it out And also there have been places that have done oral histories and and all sorts of rich material That is available that may not just be in the written form Okay, that's terrific. I'm glad that we had that question come in Um, I think you'll love this next question for the history hub. Is there a need for transcribers? Why yes, there is not um not on history hub, but there's always a need for transcribers The national archives and the library of congress both have Communities set up around um people who are interested in transcribing Um go to citizen archivist and you can find links there that would be amazing And you can go through the history hub community to get there Okay, thank you so much We love transcribers. Um, so very specific question Uh, I think you'll again refer people to go to the history hub community. They ask on census from 1840s How can you tell if the information is correct or not? Oh well You have to remember the people who wrote this or taking down Um information that has been given to them orally Uh, they've went to different census, you know House to house and the census taker actually wrote things down Now they were supposed to transcribe and use the same kind of handwriting They had to take classes to to to do that so that it all looks the same But they wrote down what people said so if someone called Their their parent Peggy instead of Margaret It may show up as Peggy in the 1918 40 census and in the 1850 census it might be Margaret So there are Some adaptations that you have to make sometimes people didn't ask How to spell a name or if they did they didn't understand the spelling and so they kind of can get creative But you know that that is the fun of working in the census records So following up on that Um We get this kind of question all the time about the census So the question is we know a spelling error has been made on the census How can we notify national archives to make the correction? Or is the misspelling just part of the legal record? It's part of the legal record, but you know, they are transcribing the census And so if you notice in the transcription of the census that something is spelled wrong that can be changed That's a great answer. Yes, you can always put that in the transcription So our next question is very specific They asked I know most world war one records were lost But where can world war one military information be found? And it continues So world war one military information specifically is their information on camp Jackson, south carolina And soldiers who had the spanish flu in 1918 That's a good question and yes, there are records about the spanish flu And and specifically in that area If they're talking about soldiers, they're talking about the army and yes, the army records Were burned, but the marine corps and the navy were not touched They out in st. Louis. They have gathered records immediately from The military and records that were normally not considered permanent were saved So just payroll records and what have you and so they can find As much as they can about an individual So yes, that is a perfect question to answer on history hub And we'll be glad to tell you, you know, where where you might be able to find some resources Okay You are such a generalist miss becky collier. Thank you We're so lucky from working on history hub for four years Yeah, we're lucky to have you there to answer so many different questions that are not actually specific about the history hub So thank you This is a researcher question about coming in person If I come to the national archives in washington dc Will I be able to obtain records at any time or do I have to make an appointment? And if able to acquire records, what form of payment do I need for any records? Oh So an appointment and is there a cost? It's always best to contact Of the unit that you're going to visit prior to coming Don't come cold Ask your question make sure that they have the records here on site if you're going to come and you want to look at the actual records There's also depends on whether records have been microfilmed and what have you you may not be able to touch the actual records So please contact the unit first and they will tell you how you know To come and what times records can be pulled Right now. I believe we're on a one pull it and It is not on a schedule. So it's best to talk to The archives and one staff First before you come but you should do that to no matter what part of the national archives you go to Please contact them first. Whether you do it through inquire Whether you do it through history hub or whether you write them a letter or call It's very important to do that. So you're not wasting your time when you come to visit us We know how important it is and we know that it can be expensive to come to the various sites So, you know, that's why we ask you to contact us first And we do have a number of blog posts on history hub about how to prepare for your in-person visit And also my co-worker amber just posted in the chat A website that has all of our location information. So, you know, uh, where to get that information on Who to contact Let's see if I think one more question came in I'm Okay, I'm just going to go ahead and read it. Uh on land owned How do you go about How far back it was owned by the family But if the family is related I'm not quite, I'm sorry. I'm not quite sure I understand. We have a whole land records group on History hubs that you could post your question there. Okay, but if it's land For instance, if the place where you live right now Your county will have documentation about The deed for that that land and then you can go backwards Beginning at the county records and then if that original person had gotten it from like a Federal bounty land grant or what have you then It will take you there. So there's a way to do it, but it's not necessarily at the national archives Okay, thank you so much Another question has come in about uh original documents being sent in for the census specifically Yakima Valley libraries archives has original documents of the census taker for the yakima reservation from the early 1900s I've never found these online. Should these be sent to the national archives? 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