 Today we're going to be talking about Super Mario Wonder because we have an update for the game that may or may not upset you. It's going to be really interesting to see how this is handled and if this actually leads to what it's suggesting because the update comes directly from Nintendo. Now look, there's a lot of other things we could talk about right now. There is likely an upcoming Nintendo Direct either on September 6th or the week following September 6th. So that is something that I see a lot of channels talking about and we may indeed do some preliminary speculation on a future Direct on the podcast tonight, but that is not something I wanted to focus on for this video because I do feel like we have an interesting conversation, an honest conversation we need to have about games like Super Mario Bros. Wonder and what is happening here with the future of Nintendo's stuff. Now before we dive in I do want to remind you we are on our road to 150,000 subscribers so I would appreciate if you would drop a like, subscribe to the channel especially if you are enjoying this video, and maybe ring-a-ling that ding-a-ling so you can be notified of all of our uploads. Alright so let's dive right into this. We see this tweet yesterday from Nintendo of Europe. It says, Adventurers are more fun with friends, team up locally in 4 player co-op to complete courses in hashtag Super Mario Bros. Wonder arriving on hashtag Nintendo Switch on 2010 or since it's Nintendo of Europe for us in the United States that's October 20th. And then it links to the full trailer. Now unfortunately there's no new footage in here you guys know just like we did with Tears of the Kingdom if there was new footage we would be all on top of it. This is the same multiplayer footage they showed in the original trailer. What's interesting about this statement of course is that it mentions specifically 4 player co-op which is something that you do in person. They don't mention 4 player online co-op, they don't mention 4 player online gameplay. They just say 4 player co-op. Now when you go to the official website it does note an online connection is required for online features but there's no online features noted besides the ability to use a game voucher to purchase the game which obviously you need to be on a member of NSO and all that stuff and go through the eShop. So that's interesting. I do think when we're looking at this it's important to note that this is how Nintendo has talked in the past about games that do not feature online co-op play because they would put 4 player co-op you know couch or online usually in the statement. So since they didn't do that the presumption here is that Super Mario Bros. Wonder will not have online. And there's been some interesting comments about it when we go down here we see one of my good friends just cliffed from the one-up podcast who's saying hey so it basically confirms no online plays two steps forward one step back all multiplayer games should have the online option it's notable to note Super Mario 3D World did add online gameplay to it when it was brought over to Nintendo Switch something that wasn't in the original game and they add online play to pretty much all multiplayer games on NSO so it has become a standard at Nintendo to offer online play in multiplayer situations but it appears they're not doing that with Wonder at least at launch so yes some people excited but they see dang no online where's the Splatoon update trailer I totally play online looks like the game have the same slidey controls at the last one I'm not gonna buy it that's a different complaint why no online locally no online seriously Nintendo I guess I'll play it alone only local is there really no online I was hoping to play this with my girlfriend while we're both in college and if online is out of the picture I might end up waiting for a sale and cancel my pre-order if it's just gonna end up being a solo game for me this will say it's worse with friends so just remove it I mean look if it was just a single-player game that's a little bit of a difference but it's not no online is such a bummer not a developer but come on there's got to be away you know recycle the footage again this is where I mentioned I would be nice if they were to show to smidge of new footage even just a few seconds but the complaints just kind of go on and on and on about not having a good online focus I think there was actually a really cool you know if you look at the quote tweets there's some interesting ones here but this one from jolly jay the implications of no online co-op and Super Marvel's wonder is crazy considering the 3d world port has it and then who buys 2d platformer no one inherently but it's a little something to do on the side I think it's more fun to meet up in person yeah but not everyone has that luxury that's really a big one here is not everyone does have that luxury very important to note it was an afterthought oh my gosh this one this one what are you doing it was an afterthought in 3d world I don't know how many people even play 3d world that way after launch plus I don't think online it's a requirement for platforms in general these aren't going to get as chaotic as a the average market rate online match it's not really about how chaotic it gets and I think jolly jay had a great response but it still would have been useful to have I'd imagine people would use this to play online with friends that aren't near exactly it's not about the amount of people it's that there would be some people that would do this and play the game online while maybe in my house I play with my kids or my fiance what if I want to play with Eric when he's at home and said he's got to drive all the way across on the play with me when he could just hop on a phone call we could just play the game together and have a lot of fun if there is an option to do it this way why not let us have that option that's what does it really make sense to me so I agree with a lot of the people that are kind of like man why is there no online now I do you know after all of these this you know complaints and stuff I do want to note technically Nintendo has not officially announced that there wouldn't be any online they just aren't making any references to it it is entirely possible the game does still feature online play and we can call that Hopium call it copium call it whatever you want to call it technically it still could be a feature in the game that for some reason this person who is tweeting this advertisement out for Nintendo of Europe just didn't put it in the text I know sometimes we can read too much into a social media post and try to glean too much information and so to play devil's advocate it is entirely possible there is still online play and they're just you know haven't advertised I haven't chosen to advertise yet one thing to remember is marketing hasn't really ramped up for the game yet this is one of the first marketing tweets and a little bit and I'm guessing marketing is not going to probably ramp up until the next direct we've seen Nintendo really tighten their marketing schedule now they don't market things nonstop for six plus months anymore they sort of announce it and then do a marketing cycle a month or two before release so I got a feeling from September onwards we're going to see a lot I just think that we need to sit back and obviously let Nintendo officially announce but I do think that if you want to read between the lines and read the tea leaves it does sort of look like there might not be online at launch at least you know maybe there'll be a planned update for in the future or DLC or something but right now there doesn't appear to be any plans at least officially you know publicly facing that there's going to be online and if there is no online play that is to me an oversight and an unfortunate update for a game I'm otherwise excited for is it going to affect my purchasing of the game no because I was primarily going to either play the game alone or play through it with my fiance so it doesn't really affect my ability to enjoy the game so much I didn't really plan to play it online that much but it would have been a nice feature and obviously me as a content creator or what have been cool so I could have played with some of you guys in a live stream instead now when I stream the game I probably won't be able to play with any of you guys and that's just really unfortunate so that that's my content creator side that would have really really loved having online play but there's so many of you that legitimately don't have a partner you don't have kids you live by yourself and your friends are you know all over the world and you would have preferred to play it with them you know through that means that I understand that my experience playing some Mario games online like 3d world you know it's not a smooth experience unless you're both on a phone call or something or in voice chat like Nintendo switch online app or something which I still think is a piece of junk but whatever look at least it was a possibility for those that would love to experience the game together so in the end I hope that this doesn't mean what it seems to be implying I cannot say this is a 100% confirmation but I can say it's a pretty big implication when you're only averaging just co-op on its own which is how Nintendo has always advertised couch co-op in the past they never call it couch co-op they just call it co-op and every time they do that it generally means there's no online co-op so we'll have to wait and see if this officially gets confirmed or if this is the confirmation but I am sad and I agree with many of the negative comments out there on this and it's just sort of unfortunate again won't affect my purchasing decision because it's not a feature I was really going to use to play through the game anyways but I understand if this does affect your purchasing decision and clearly if you're someone who wants to you know if this is a make or break feature for you I can see where you just refuse to buy the game on principle I also think that Nintendo shouldn't be adding online features to all their nso games including multiplayer mario games including things like you know the 3d world if you're not going to suddenly make that a standard I sort of like Nintendo set a standard so I really hope that this is just a miscommunication but if it's not it's just sort of an unfortunate update for super mario bros wonder and hopefully the next bit of news we get when they actually begin the marketing cycle for this game is much more positive because look we cover the negative news but I prefer to cover positive news because I am really excited for this game you know there's slightly negative news every now and then for tears of the kingdom but a lot of the news had in the launch was super positive heck there's news right now on tears of the kingdom that it might have actually helped raise japan's global gdp gdp look I don't know much about you know governments and how they handle their revenues and they're all what they hear that a video game did so well it might have raised in entire nations global gdp that's quite interesting that's a story floating out there I can't pretend to understand it that's why I didn't make a video on it but I wanted to reference it here towards the end of the video anyways guys I want to thank you so much for being here I hope to see you guys tonight at the podcast we do have the nintendo prime podcast happening at 8 p.m. central time tonight featuring me and Andres restart and right now that's it I've had a very very very busy last five days a lot of chaotic things happening in my life just in general just life happens to all of us sometimes hence why you've seen a lot of cutback in the videos combined with there not being a lot of compelling news to post about and I don't want to release just a hodgepodge video that isn't very good I felt like this is a good conversation to have because it's related to an upcoming game and it's a major feature that may or may not be there so I wanted to make sure we had this conversation on mario wonder well tonight we're going to be talking probably a bit about the nintendo direct I don't know who the rest of the guests are going to be at this point because I as I said it's been chaotic I haven't had time to plan anyone we'll see if I can get anyone to show up in general otherwise you guys are awesome and amazing I want to thank you so much for spending this time of me and help and grow our channel and hopefully we continue to grow as we seek to get to 150,000 subscribers before the end of the year I don't even know if it's possible but we're sure damn well going to try catch you guys in the next video