 I'm David Duncan and I work, I've been primarily an ambassador, but I work on various parts of Fedora and making sure that people have been introduced to Fedora all the way around and and I am a partner solutions architect at Amazon and I'm responsible for our Red Hat Alliance specifically and so obviously I'm a former Red Hatter, so this is all all second nature to me to be to be involved deeply involved in in the Fedora mission and have been around Really since Fedora core? Let's just say since Fedora core and let you know that that's a long time so and I and I love You know have have been super happy about this community and being a part of this community for a long time and so My mission when I came on board with as a member of the Red Hat Alliance team was to Bring the development process That I had come to understand know and love to the people who were who were building at AWS But then I also wanted to make sure that we had strong customer access to Fedora and it needed to be simple And I wanted to make sure that it was simple to find and we had some goals in mind like around how customers could use Fedora on AWS and still you know those things are Emerging and everybody is finding new ways obviously to use it and To take advantage and we wanted it to be mostly functional And there's some people that I wanted to call out who have done some really great things over the past few years in terms of like making Images available and have done lots of hard work and and and obviously this is not Representative of the massive number of people who are involved, but I just want to say Thank you to some of these people like Dusty and Cyan who over the many years have been really amazing at getting out images on time and in a deliverable fashion and creating, you know creating a Clear pathway and pipeline to to deployment and some other people one of them You just heard from who is some entro who's done so much around testing for You know making making sure that there's Association with the the kernel testing for cloud providers and And then Michael for because you know for all the work that he has done around Fedora core OS and And and getting that ready for ready for market So I just want to say that there's lots of people out there in the world who are doing great work around around deployment and testing that that These images built benefit from and so what I've done is Tried to to work on something that I think is really important But at AWS was a little bit lacking because we didn't have any way to really highlight or showcase that Fedora was available on AWS Originally and and the marketplace was the place where we wanted I wanted us to be able to do that and and Building on the marketplace Requires legal agreements be signed and Matthew and I went back and forth. We've been doing this Have we been doing this for four years? I think Matthew We've been working really hard on trying to figure out how it is that we can get this into a place Yeah Okay, so sorry It's been a while and So we've been trying to figure out what the legal requirement is how how we could how we could get over that Get over the hump of that legal requirement and and then beyond that So much of this was was just really about Making sure that we had the right thing in place so the marketplace I think makes the thing that makes it interesting is that it makes the products searchable So lots of customers who wouldn't have normally come across Fedora as a part of their search for what what operating systems were available to them Yeah, and you should have been a launch partner so so but but what the But we want you know, it makes it searchable it makes it possible for us to collect some metrics and to understand a lot more about Use patterns then we would know from just the community omis the community omis are kind of you just let them go into the into the public and People can use them and they're advertised and you know, that's what the there's a bookmark configuration on the on the get Fedora Pages for for the for the cloud images And and so it makes that makes it easy to use but it doesn't really tell you anything about yeah It doesn't tell you that the it doesn't tell so to use Neil's words in his in his unfortunate statement that is it Just by itself the public images don't tell a story about what what the use patterns are and we all know Matthew loves metrics So it's important to provide him with more information Then he could possibly ever use so he can get that up on the slides and we can see it every year at nest or flock hopefully and And this is the this is one of those things that makes this an important part of this process But mostly I think what makes the marketplace important is that it's discoverable by people who wouldn't have previously really understood that they had access to Fedora on AWS now On the on the other side the metrics my throw the on the flip side There are some limitations to marketplace that are associated with commercial products that That change the way that customers can use it right so we have a lot of people who will like to use the the standard community Images because they're doing things like copying them over into their account and then using some other modifications on their own and How and now my the the first statement I want to make is like how did we how did we get around all the obstacles so Because We have been Matthew and I have been patiently vocal with the with the The leadership in the AWS marketplace They started to really understand exactly what it was that that was missing from All of our requests and that all of all of their sort of simple requests in the past There's some indemnity clauses that are very difficult and a lot of legal requirements that Just are difficult for us to find ways around and some of the work that we had done We did was to to help AWS understand that we needed a publication model that was Was not directly owned by Fedora as such and so they have created a model by which they can provide the images directly instead of instead of us having to like as a Instead I say us and I mean us Fedora having to sign a Marketplace agreement Specifically to get into the marketplace. So then they are providing the images directly and what and And what what we've done is create the trademark approval and the trademark approval is really critical. So That part makes it possible for From the internal perspective for me to say to teams that are shipping their own clients that are not yet Packaged correctly for Fedora to say I'm sorry You can't use Fedora as a vehicle for your for your openly available, but not openly Developed software we you know, you know, we'll have to work through the packaging process because the trademark guidelines prevent us from from from Muddying this image with other with other component parts. So we leveraged so we've leveraged that approval Yeah, exactly. So so now we've leveraged this this Approval so that we could have a pristine image Exactly like the image that's produced for or that is a pass through to the image that's produced in the mark in the community directly in the AWS marketplace and we get the advertising and we get that we get all of the component parts for them So but that's not all There are other things that are going on here and and this is a this has been a really great Catalyst for helping others in AWS understand how to how to leverage the Fedora packaging model and How to get us through to the the next work are the next level of supporting the you know, the entire red hat ecosystem and And and and and the community around it, right? So we have some nitro we have a project called nitro enclaves that's going on right now Which allows for a secure execution environment for specific code That team has been working in rust and we all know from what's you know What we've seen around trying to build rust for a distribution that this is not an easy process there's a lot of packages involved and a lot of people involved and and the That work has been ongoing and one of the things that we've done to help them understand how to package software Better for the community is to provide them with an understanding of how to use the copper repositories For the to determine whether or not they've got everything in place and obviously they have you know, and that they have They understand that their requirements are to have access permission And an open source model for how they how they produce those packages the same thing with easy to hibernate agent you don't know it but in With respect to how we're working with the community there. We've ended up making some really big se linux changes and Like a domain change for the ACPI requirements around swap files We've made some huge leaps with with the with community direct community involvement with engineers From the fedora teams who are part of doing some review on the way that packet are the way that block device storage has been Handled for swap files and so all of these things are going on in the background and this is and and these Utilities are there and in the copper repositories for people to see and use and and Building and we're trying to get a community like a culture of of pushing those changes into fedora first Rather than focusing in on an upstream right in in that very in that case So so that's that's really pushing and Russig Ileana Weller if you know her she has been She's been around and if anybody has more like I'm happy to take questions here I'm gonna call that. We'll just call it fedora on AWS. We want all the spin. I want all the spins You know that that can that can come over with us To talk to me. I want to you know, I want to get everything that we can do for fedora on on this So on on the on the marketplace through the same the same vehicle Um Yeah, and thanks thanks it is a lot this was a lot of legal hoops And I think we we we put a lot of time and effort into this and Matthew Thank you so much for all of your help and all of your guidance and You know and the and there there are there were a lot of little pieces here in terms of knitting this together and Let's see. I don't see any other questions. Anybody have any I definitely was was close to I Don't know Alexandra I don't know what's gonna help in terms of the rust packaging But I look forward to that and we like I said Ileana is out there and she is an amazing rust resource And I would love to to make sure that we're reaching out to her and making sure that she's a part of our Of our program and she's been around the fedora team for a long time But yeah, thank you