 Transformation is obviously incredibly important and getting more important with the fast-changing world. We all have a tendency to hang on to what we're doing, stick to the same things, and my own experience is that every time you step out of that and see the world from a new angle, you learn new things, but I think the angle into this with the experience and the stories is distinctive and distinctively different from the regular consulting speak about transformation. So that was very good. And I think back to where I said the different angles into the same topics with different people taking very different views at the challenges, I think it's important to demonstrate the kind of breadth and the complexity of doing and the requirements of doing good transformations.