 Salamualaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuhu, dearest respect to viewers and welcome to live in London. Our previous discussion was one on how Muharram does not end on the 10 nights and the death of Aba'ab Abdullah, but it continues upon the tragedies and atrocities that fell upon Ali Muhammad. We discussed a journey from Karbala to Syria with stopovers in Kufa, Moussel, Sinja and Halab. Let us continue the story and what happened to the daughters of Rasulullah with Sayyid, Dr. Ammar Nakshawani. Sayyidna, Salamualaikum Warahmatullahi. How are you in this evening? Very well, thank you very well. So in the previous discussion we got up to Halab and the Christian priest joining on to the camp and walking towards Syria. In your opinion, coming into Sham, was this the hardest part of the tragedies and the atrocities? Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim. No doubt, if you are looking at the traditions of Ahl al-Bayt, Alaym al-Salam, there is mention of Asham, Asham, Asham from the lips of Imam Zayn al-Abideen, Alayh al-Salam. No one can deny that what took place at Karbala to the granddaughters of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, and his family. After Imam Al-Hussein, Alayh al-Salam had died, that was something horrific. That night of the 11th of Muharram without a doubt is one of the most horrific nights in the history of the religion of Islam. And Kufa was troublesome and we showed how certain stops on the journey towards Sham were troublesome. But definitely when Imam Zayn al-Abideen, Alayh al-Salam, is asked years after the event had taken place and years after they had seen all these tragedies, what was the most difficult for you? He mentions Asham and I think without a doubt while other places did show hate towards the family of the Prophet, peace be upon him, Sham had carried this hate for a while. It wasn't that this hate had just suddenly come overnight. Muawiyah bin Abi Sofyan had been the person who was the governor of Sham, which in those days was not what we see as Sham today. Today someone says to you that I'm going on Ziyara to Sham, it means they're going towards Syria. In those days Sham or Biladi Sham was Syria, Palestine, Lebanon and Jordan. So Muawiyah had ruled this particular part of the world and the Umayyads had ruled it for over four decades. In other words, the Umayyad propaganda was extremely strong. The anti-Ali sentiment was extremely strong. One could see for example that when you look within the Sahih such as Bukhari and Muslim, you have narrations where the Umayyads show the clear hate of Ali. Muawiyah bin Abi Sofyan's famous question to Sa'ad bin Abi Waqas, when he asks him, why don't you curse Ali, son of Abu Talib? What is it that prevents you from cursing Ali? Sa'ad bin Abi Waqas gives a list of the virtues of Imam Ali, alaihi salam, including the fact that Ali was to the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and his family, as Haroon was to Musa. Including for example the fact that on the day of Khaybar he received the banner which everyone wanted and also including the fact that on the day of Mubahala, he was known as the nefs of the Holy Prophet, peace be upon him and his family. But when Muawiyah is asking this, when Muawiyah is saying why don't you curse Ali, it goes to show you that already in Syria, in Palestine, in Jordan, in these areas where the Umayyads had a firm stranglehold, already there was a severe hatred to Imam Ali bin Abi Talib, alaihi salam. Now, some of these people also had hated Imam Ali, alaihi salam because of his exploits at war. You know, some of them may have had relatives who died at Khandab or relatives who died at Khaybar. And so there was already that hatred that was there. If you look later on, this hatred escalates by the way in that land. A sham is a piece of land or an area of land where the Muslims there despised Ali for a very long time. There is the tradition where Sahel bin Sa'ad mentions how one of the offspring of Marwan talks about the La'in of Abu Turab and the Shatim of Abu Turab. You can find the Hadith within Sahih Muslim, where he asks him first, and the Hadith is there, he orders him to curse Ali. When Sahel then turns around and says that, I'm not going to do that, he then says to him, okay, then at least say La'in Allah Abu Turab, at least say that may God withdraw his mercy from Abu Turab. You find therefore that this hatred to Ali escalates to such a level where now the children of the man and the grandchildren of the man are about to enter Sham. The media was so powerful and you found that when they're about to enter Sham, say that Zaynab knows that anti-Imam Ali campaign, anti-Imam Ali movement there. She knows there's a lot of people who can't stand her father, and therefore when someone asks why Imam Zayn al-Abideen says, as sham as sham as sham because you've got a lot of people who literally are paying for the blood of the children of Ali. Just a quick note to all the viewers is that if you have any questions throughout the show, please don't hesitate to contact us on 0203 515 0199. Dr. Saeed Ammar, one would ask that did the Prophet's family, the daughters of Ali Muhammad, were they aware of what was going to happen, were they, as in the details, one could argue they knew that okay, they're not really going to like us, there's a really big campaign going on against us, but were they prepared for the onslaught and the verbal abuse and so forth? I think there's a conversation between Om Kulthum and Shimr bin Diljoshan, which highlights that they knew this was going to be something extremely difficult for them. Some mentioned that you could have been Zaynab with Shimr, Om Kulthum with Shimr, they're about to enter Sham on the first of Safar, and when they're about to enter Sham, they say to Shimr, that can you do something for us? The first thing is the thing that they had asked from before, and that is don't place the heads of our beloved ones on the spears in front of us. You know, purposely they wanted to hurt them, so they would place the heads of their beloved on the spears, the head of Abbas on one spear, the head of, for example, Qasim on another, the head of Akbar on another, the head of Imam al-Hussain on another. This was an omayyid ploy to instill fear into the society. It had begun with the likes of Amr bin Hamaq al-Khuzai. They wanted to instill fear into people by putting heads on spears. Today when you see YouTube videos, where it's normal for people to play football with heads in Syria, or in Iraq, ISIS and their filth, you find that many Sunni and Shi'a look at that with disgust. That is not part of the teachings of the religion of Islam, but it's definitely an omayyid origin to pick up a head. Dare I say, even before omayyids came into power, there were a couple of personalities who didn't mind cooking food on a head. That must be headed, but we don't want to go into that and force any friction or any sectarianism. Some will always throw the line against us. So when you're looking at that, that's one thing. The other thing is that Om Kulthum asks Shemar, can we enter from different gates? You see when you're entering, for example, a city, everyone's eyes are going to be on you. So she asks, do you mind if we enter from different gates? It's similar to when Yaqub, Prophet Yaqub al-Salam, when he advises his sons that don't all of you enter from the same gate, because all the boys are beautiful. He doesn't want that hasad or that envy against them. But for the daughters of Al-Muhammad, the granddaughters of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and his family, 50 years after their grandfather had passed away, they had lived a life where many had not even seen their faces before. Now they're about to enter a city which they already know despises them. But also now they're going to enter all together from one door. And so the request is made that you mind if we enter from different doors. He's attentional. And he says, no way. He says, you're going to enter all of you together from the same door. And naturally at this moment, the younger members of the family are in a state of distress, because they know now that if Khufa was difficult, but at least Khufa had some of our dad's old supporters, Sham does not have any of them. And they knew that this is going to be their most difficult moment. So we've talked about Al-Muhammad coming in. What about the people around? What were they feeling? Was it animosity towards them? Or were they looking? Did they actually recognize these people? This was a day which was seen as a day of tabarak, a day of baraka for Bani Umayyah. The biggest proof of this was Sahel bin Sa'adi Sa'adi, companion of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon his family, is in Sham at that time. Seemingly he's on his way maybe towards the Bayt al-Muqdis or towards Palestine, towards Jerusalem. And he's an absolute disbelief when he looks at this carnival-like atmosphere in Sham. It's a carnival-like atmosphere. He's about to celebrate the beheading of the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon his family. And he describes this in his meeting with Imam Zayn al-Abideen, alaihi salam, that when Sahel meets Imam Zayn al-Abideen, he mentions how he's not surprised if the earth now swallows its inhabitants, that people are in the streets taking. You've read the line in Ziyara that this is a day tabarak at Bihi Umayyah and Abu Sufyan that this is a day in which the family of Umayyah, the family of Abu Sufyan found a day of enjoyment, found a day of celebration. Today you see that there are certain Muslims in the world when it comes to the 10th of Muharram, they are constantly reminded of how Moses and the children of Israel were given victory. And so now you have a lot of people stressing on the fasting on the day of Ashura. Say for example, we have traditions about fasting, let's say. Other schools have traditions about fasting on the day of Ashura. Yes. But when you know that the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad passed away, peace be upon his family on that day, how then do you have it in you to say that today is a day we should celebrate, a day of joy, a day that we should all maybe even have wedding celebrations. I remember when I lectured in South Africa about, it's over 10 years ago now I lectured in South Africa. I remember they were giving special offers on the 10th of Muharram. If you want to book a wedding hall on the 10th of Muharram, you get 50% off the price. Imagine. So what was instilled in the Umayyads at that time continues until today that there are certain parts of the Muslim world. Someone recently done a survey in Egypt in the streets of Egypt. Okay. He came to people in the streets in Egypt. In Egypt, the Egyptians tend to be people very well read, the prestigious al-Azhar seminary is there. Yeah, quite liberal I assume. In all honesty, even the most liberal Egyptian knows more Quran than me and you. Egyptians may not necessarily have the external image of religiosity. But I'll tell you what they can quote the Quran inside out. You can see an Egyptian serving Shisha. Yes, or putting tobacco, putting coal on your Shisha when you're sitting in a calf. And he's quoting verses of the Quran like you won't believe. So they were coming to random people in the streets in Egypt and they were asking them that what's ashura? Nine percent, nine, five percent of people didn't know. There was a few who said, is it something to do with Moses? Nobody knew it was about Imam al-Hussein. Likewise, you find that at that time there was such a carnival atmosphere in Sham that people were celebrating like it was a day of A'id because Sahel bin Sa'ad asks people, is it a day of A'id? They're like, no, Hussein has been beheaded. And at that moment is when he says, I wouldn't be surprised if the earth swallows all its inhabitants. How could you people be celebrating the martyrdom of the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, and his family? Some of our elders used to narrate that as they were paraded, people said certain things to them, heard abuse towards them, maybe throw stones and things like that. Is any of this true? Yes, certainly it's true. And you see the narrations from Imam Zayn al-Abideen, a few come to mind. The first of them is the narration that they were poking their spears into the wastes of the granddaughters of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, and his family. Imagine, the worst feeling when you try and imagine what was taking place is if these ladies are all chained up and they all have to walk, you've got to remember some of them are kids, some are ladies. That means some of these kids, one way or the other, would have to have tiptoed to stay in line. There would have been cuts and bruises on them. But we have the traditions in the narrative that they were poking the spears into the wastes of Zayn al-Abideen, the granddaughters of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, and his family. Likewise, you found that they begun to hurl their insults. As I had mentioned that many of these people hated Imam Ali, peace be upon him, many of them, all their relatives, all their cousins would have been members of the fighting army, the rebellious group against Imam Ali al-Safi'in. And so what you find is that there are calls being made that these are the children of the man who killed your ancestors at Khandaq now to come out and take your revenge. So you could imagine there was some bloodthirsty people. They hated Ali, these are the children of Ali. In reflection of what Imam al-Hussein, peace be upon him, on the 10th of Muharram, when Imam al-Hussein, peace be upon him, came out and he said, I'm the son of Fatima Zahra. Am I not the grandson of Prophet Muhammad? Why do you people want to kill me? They replied, revenge for your father Ali. So now they take out their vengeance. So firstly, poking spears, pelting stones, shouting out that these are the children of the one who defeated you at Khandaq and Khaybar. And then, fourthly, and very interestingly, and very sadly, imagine they were gathering bowls of hot water and throwing it on the turban of Imam Zain al-Abideen. Imam Zain al-Abideen says that when we first begun to walk in Sham in the first of Safa, when we walked in, we had someone who poured boiling water on my turban. So, what has been narrated in the Majalis, a lot of it is true, that they really had to face a barrage, it was an absolute barrage of attacks against them from the bloodthirsty Umayyads and their supporters at the time. Wow. And then, I mean, where were they being taken towards? They're parading the streets, obviously, but were they going towards Yazid's palace? Yes, so they would have been taken towards ruins, similar ruins to the ones in Khufa. So in Khufa, they would have been made to sleep next to the sheep and the camels. Okay. Imagine the grandchildren of the man who bought the religion. You make them sleep next to the feces of sheep, the feces of camel, with no proper shelter as such. There's not roofs on top of their heads. And Yazid really wants them to stay there for a certain period because he's invited ambassadors from different countries. He wants to show a display of his power. You know, so it's very difficult moments now because you've already lost a daughter. You've lost two daughters. You've lost the daughter in Sinjar. There's a couple, say the Khawala, Safiya mentioned in Baalbek, for example. So you've got a few daughters of Imam Hussein who've already died on the way to Sham. Now, there's a few others may not be physically tired, which could lead to their deaths, but emotionally, every day is getting more and more difficult for them. So would you say something like that led to the death of Sayyid al-Ruqayyah? Yes, definitely. As in we have these narrations that are mentioned by ulama. May Allah lengthen the life of Ayat Sadaq al-Rauhani talks about the young daughter of Imam Al-Hussein, alaihi salam. Some give different names for this young daughter. And you find that this young daughter, her Auntie Zaynab, not truly with a girl that young, you're not going to say to her your father's died. So from Karbala to Kufa to Sham, Auntie Zaynab is just telling her your dad's on a journey. Of course, he's on a journey. The world of Barzakh and so on. So she's in the ruins with the rest of the family. And all of a sudden, there is this scream that wakes up everybody in the area. Now their ruins are right next to Yazid's palace. And there's this loudest of screams which wakes Yazid up. Naturally wakes Sayyid al-Zaynab, wakes Imam Zayn al-Habideen, alaihi salam. And when it wakes them up, Sayyid al-Zaynab says to the young daughter of Imam al-Hussein, alaihi salam, what is it? What's wrong with you? She says, I saw my father in my dream. And now I want to see him. He said that I'm going to go to him. I want to see him. It's been a number of days. It's been over, you know, three weeks since I've seen my father. And my father used to look after me. My father used to put me to bed. My father, I'd sit next to him when he's praying. I want to see my father. That scream when it wakes up Yazid, Yazid says, what was that scream? So they replied to him that that's the young daughter of Hussein. He says, what does she want? They say to him, she wants to see her father. He said, very well. Then let her see her father. They had the head of Imam al-Hussein next to them in their palaces. They used to poke the lips and the eyes of Imam al-Hussein, alaihi salam. And they wanted to display this head. And there was going to be a big parade to display the head. And they get the head and they place a cover like you're about to take a meal to somebody. You place a cover on top of a plate. The head is there. And I don't expect anything more from someone, you know, whose grandmother chewed the liver of Hamza that he finds it normal to have anyone's head next to him. They bring this plate with the head inside it and you've got the cover. She turns around to her auntie and she says, my auntie, I'm not hungry. Because what she is assuming it is, it's food. When she removes it, she sees the holy head of Imam al-Hussein. And the lines that are uttered Father, who severed your head from your body? Father, who died your beard with blood? Father, who is there for the orphans after you? She let out every feeling that she's had but she had not wanted to say who died your beard in blood? Who severed your head from your body? Who is there for the orphans of al-Muhammad after you? And she falls at that moment and dies. When she dies, they want one of the nurses to come and wash her body do the burial rites. That nurse comes back to say to Zaynab says there's a problem. Zaynab says what's the problem? Was she ill when she died? So Zaynab says no she wasn't. She goes then what's the blue marks all over her body? And at that moment Zaynab says that's not the marks of illness, that's the marks of the whips of Shemar and his soldiers. Imagine this lady who was about to wash the body of this young daughter of Imam al-Hussein al-Salam cannot bear to continue to wash because she's flabbergasted by the number of bruises. They had whipped these women. They had hurt them, they had slapped them and so you find that her grave is still there many zwar and Alhamdulillah I think yourself and I we've all had the privilege of having to be inside the Ruqaiyya's grave insha Allah very soon we'll be able to return there as well insha Allah So going back a little bit we were discussing how the prisoners were paraded the captives were paraded how did Yazid react to seeing being presented with Ali Muhammad in front of him in his courtyard? Well he's full regalia, full pomp to show off to all his ambassadors now of course these ambassadors in some cases maybe in religious like for example Christians remember Yazid's Yazid's mother is a Christian Yazid's father Muawiyah publicly would say that he's a Muslim but Yazid's mother may soon was a Christian. Yazid used to love the maternal side of his family more than the paternal but the Umayyads had a very very close relationship with the Christian world you look at later on the likes of the poets you know Al-Akhdal and others Christian poets in the courts of Hisham and so on so Yazid has got some people who may have been on the religion of Christianity others who have no religion whatsoever and he wants to show them his power what's interesting is that even if you're not a Muslim when you're witnessing this scene you may be a father you're someone's brother some sister you might be the uncle of a niece somewhere in the world so you still got those feelings when you see all these women being paraded and so while he brings them out so he'll take them one of the Christian ambassadors who was sitting next to him says to him who are these people are they the grand children of the man who bought the religion for you people are they Muhammad's grand children Yazid says to him what does that have to do with you he goes listen we had the print of the hoof of the donkey that was sat on by one of the prophets of God in the Bible until today we honor the print of the hoof of the donkey of that prophet and your prophet's grand children you're parading them and your prophet's grandson you put his head on a chess board next to you for people to look at and laugh Yazid says to him if you don't shut your mouth I'll kill you he ends up killing you thinking of things going wrong for Yazid because Yazid had calculated that this is all gonna go smooth I've got absolutely nothing to worry about we're gonna be victorious we're gonna parade we're gonna have people who are gonna laugh and smile and now he begins to notice that there's an utterance of disrespect and he wants that person killed then to some ambassadors who are sitting there he tells them pick one of the girls and one of the ambassadors sitting there says that one over there I want her and she holds on to her auntie Sayyid Azaynab AS says my auntie is it not enough what they did to us on the tenth of Muharram that now are they gonna take us as slaves and Sayyid Azaynab AS says that you know what don't worry there is no way that Allah allow him to touch he notices that Sayyid Azaynab is really beginning to get in his way everything that he's trying people are speaking out against naturally with that insecurity at that moment the arrogance emerges and he utters lines taken from a a jahil poet but he changes a few of the words and he says to hurt Sayyid Azaynab AS he says he begins to make this statement in front of everybody that I wish my ancestors from Badr were here today I ask you Sayyid Mohsin Yazid who is his ancestors from Badr were they on the side of Rasulallah or the opposite side opposite his mother or his grandmother Hind her father was killed on the day of Badr the Walid was killed Sheba was killed Abu Sufyan and Hind were also orchestrators when he says I wish my ancestors who died at Badr could see what I've done today that I'm poking the lips of the head of the face of the son of the man who defeated you at Badr I've taken revenge this piece of poetry what he's trying to do really at this moment he's trying to cover his insecurities he knows that this is a very difficult time for him he's trying to cover his angles his insecurities and then at the end he says a line which is his kufr, his disbelief you know many of our Sunni brothers and sisters despise Yazid the revamping of the image of Yazid bin Muawiyah is a Salafi Wahabi revamp some will say for example Imam Ahmad bin Hambal or Ibn Taymiyah or others say ok the main thing is you don't curse him if you don't like him don't curse when you find that many of the scholars of the Sunnah used to despise Yazid Yazid there was no discussion about him especially with the lines of La'ibat Hashim bin Mulk Fa la khabarun jaa wa la wahyun nazan Hashim played with a Mulk Hashim bani Hashim they played with a kingdom there was no news there's no revelation all this Jibra'id it's all nonsense when he's saying this Wahyun in other words what he's saying is that this is all nonsense anyone who's telling you that Muhammad received revelation this is nonsense it shows you that the Umayyids in many cases did not believe in Muhammad as Rasulallah unless it suited their government unless it suited their power base but what's going on right now is that it's shaky ground for him he thinks that all of the pomp and the regalia and the royalty and the ambassadors he thinks that's over Zaynab has something coming for him and that's the moment you'd think that this lady after Karbala Khufa you'd think that you know what surely she's tired you'd think that this is the end and she delivers a sermon in reply to his words where she absolutely destroys him so in terms of Zaynab's sermon did she just come up with it or was she who kind of instigated it why didn't Imam Sajjad speak beforehand or someone else did it have to be Zaynab to speak well they both give a sermon she's already defended the daughters of Rasulallah she's already seen the insults that he's leveled towards her and she emerges with a sermon which I personally believe that many of the followers of Ahlul Bayt should memorize by the age of 16 I believe that if you can memorize Zaynab's sermon in Sham she had already given a sermon in Khufa but if you're able to memorize Zaynab's sermon in Sham there are so many profound lessons in this sermon this is due to Allah Lord of all the worlds there's a lesson in every line of this Khutbah when I've seen what I've seen in Karbala would I still believe in Allah there are some of us exam result goes wrong is there a God a friend of ours dies is there a God we're told we have cancer is there a God we lose our job all praise is due to Allah wherever I face in life as her father Imam Ali A.S. said wonderfully do not say ya Allah don't test me for Allah will definitely test you rather say ya Allah do not test me with that which shakes my faith in you any other test I welcome but don't test me with that which shakes my faith in you Masha'Allah all praise is due to Allah Lord of all the worlds and peace and blessings be on His prophet the only lady probably who could ever say that comfortably because that's her granddad and peace and blessings straight away to Quran because when you have the Quran you truly have the pillar for you to be eloquent for you to be confident for you to have points of wisdom quotes from the Quran Allah was right when he said evil will be the end for those who committed evil because they rejected our communications and used to mock at them she's telling him Allah subhanu wa ta'ala was right when he said evil will be the end for those who committed evil because they rejected our communications and used to mock at them indeed do you think that God has made you honorable and made us contemptible now that in your belief you've blocked the earth's zones and the heavens' horizons and you've left no solution for us do you think it's your reputation before God that has led you to this victory you crow with pleasure now that the world has turned for you and our affairs are allocated to you and our government is arranged for you get off your high horse get off your high horse you know who you're talking to you're talking to Yazid bin Muawiyah caliph of the Muslims at that time get off your high horse have you not read in the Quran when Allah says let not those who disbelieve Quran again let not those who disbelieve think that our granting them respite is good for their souls rather we grant them respite so they may add to their sins keep living add add because for you there's a painful chastisement he's silent he can't utter a word because Zaynab a.s when she talked people used to say is that the eloquence was phenomenal get off your high horse the Quran says that not those who disbelieve like you think that when we give them a long life it's good for their souls rather we give them a long life so they may add to more sins for them there is a painful chastisement oh Yazid oh you whose father Muawiyah was freed by my grandfather Rasool Allah because Muawiyah is of the Tulaqa freed on the day of the opening of Mecca is it fair that your wives are behind a curtain and the daughters of Rasool Allah are taken from city to city is it fair that you disgrace us by unveiling our faces sometimes people ask what's the covering of Zaynab and sometimes people want to wear hijab but they're not sure sometimes people want to take that step they're not sure sometimes people say out there it's pressure you'll never ever in your life see pressure like Zaynab daughter of Ali in Sham daughters of her father surrounding her that's pressure we say the examples are given but should not be never these are trivial examples yes a person taking a penalty and a fight for side game with their friends it's different from a person who's about to take the match winning penalty in the European Cup Final you agree? there you go so when you come to someone like Zaynab someone today in London or someone in America says to me I'm not sure if I should wear hijab or not because there's Islamophobia there's pressure look at Zaynab she makes it clear to Yazid that you've disgraced us by unveiling our faces by unveiling our faces so that all could see us from the strangers to the acquaintances there's two types of people there's people we don't know they're looking at our faces but there's people we used to know used to respect us you made us walk through Kufa in front of friends of my father from the stranger to the acquaintance from the noble to the ignoble from those who have respect but also in front of those people while there is none to defend us but how could I hope for sympathy and compassion from someone whose grandmother chewed the liver of the nobles and he was born from the flesh of the martyrs his grandmother Hind who chewed the liver of Hamza she's telling him what do you think he won while I'm here you don't win and while I'm here my grandfather's message will never die my grandfather's message lives forever so you see this introduction it's shaken the whole of Shahan and inshallah we'll continue shortly to see what she says in the rest of the sermon because I know you're giving me that look of the break and it's about time that we move on Respected viewers we're going for a short break but please join us after the break as we continue the discussion of Zaynab in the court of Yazid and if you have any questions that you'd like to send in please call us on 0203 5150199 and also the whatsapp number will be down at the bottom where you can send in your questions we'll see you shortly Salamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh Salamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh Dear Respected Viewers and welcome back to Live in London for the second part of the show of Karbala Takufa if you have a question and you'd like to call in please call on 0203 5150199 or if you'd like to send a question in the whatsapp number should be on the screen Salamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh We were discussing Zaynab in the court of Yazid and she was giving a sermon please continue Yes so she's now begun her speech and she's in riveting form she's reminding him that listen you're a person if you want to know your background your father is the one who freed your father your grandmother is the one who chewed the liver of the nobles and then she looks at him and she says but you know what's ridiculous about all of this and what's so sad you don't view yourself as a sinner and you don't look down at this mortal blow you boast about your disbelieving ancestors wishing that they were present so that they could see what you've done you've shed the blood of the progeny of Abdul Muttalib the heavenly stars on earth but we'll be patient since soon you'll be joining them then you'll wish that you would not have said what you said or acted what you've acted or Yazid by Allah you've cloven your own skin and flesh soon you'll meet the messenger of Allah and it's at that moment where Allah turns this stress into tranquility you've held his children as captives and you've disgraced them and then she utters another eye of the Quran but do not count those who have died in the way of Allah's being dead rather they are alive receiving sustenance from their Lord Amater doesn't die, Amater's body physical body dies but the legacy of Amater never dies those who paved the way for you Yazid to dominate over us whoever was involved in paving the way for you to dominate over us meaning whoever paved the way for your father to become governor of Sham and gave him that much power 40 years before Karbala all of those are involved in the massacre of Imam Hussain because you know today when a massacre happens with ISIS people say you can't blame what happened a thousand years ago on ISIS today Hussain Hussain says to Yazid there are those who paved the way for you to dominate there are those whose decisions are decisions that led to you dominating but enough for us is that we have Rasulullah we have Jibra'id they are our supporters we don't need any of these people then she says something to him which really brings him down and embarrasses him I believe we have a caller on the line Salam alaikum your name and where you're calling from Salam alaikum my name is Minhal Khafaji I'm calling from London and my question was to the Sayyid do you have the lots of the people for example who was a company of Rasulullah and was a governor what is it that makes a person go from such ranks and turns against the grandson of the prophet and were there any people from Karbala to Damascus were there people that actually came and repented were there people that actually came and sought forgiveness and Salam alaikum Salam alaikum thank you very much for your question Sayyidina there's thank you Minhal for your excellent questions you're looking at someone like for example say how could someone like that change there are some that never change but their silence is just as bad Zaid bin Arqam Abdullah bin Umar Sahel bin Saad these are all companions of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him who were alive they did not have the 180 degree for example change of someone like him but they were silent but it's not surprising to find people who do have these changes when the companions were killing each other on the day of the battle of Jemen they were killing each other now today you have people saying oh it's a fitna oh the Jews did it oh the reality is that we have a battle where you've got four or five of those who are supposedly granted paradise all wanting to kill each other it happens but I think the Prophet peace be upon his family gave more than enough guidance for people it's whether they want to take it or not sometimes subhanallah this is Tawfiq from Allah how many times we say Alhamdulillah Wa Maa Kunna Linahtadiya Lola Anhadana Allah all praises due to Allah who guided us to this and we would never have been guided if it wasn't for Allah's guidance any time that you are on the path of guidance in Salah every day you are told there's one line you have to say in Salah every single day about guidance which line? like wise in our supplication say bi'ala dienik oh Allah the Manifestant the Merciful the one who rotates the heart cement my heart on your path because subhanallah there are people who are miles away from the path of God within a few moments they become Harbin Yazid al-Riyah and there are others who are supposedly on the path of God and their arrogance or their love of this world overtakes them I believe we have another caller on the line your name and where you are calling from hello I'm afraid we've got some technical difficulties the caller is not there if you can call back we go back to Minhal's second question that were there people who came to Imam Zayn al-Abideen seeking repentance there's a whole movement which you could read in many of the books of Islamic history the Tawaboon from the word Toba Toba is when a person seeks to repent they seek Allah's forgiveness and they seek to return back to the path of Allah subhanu wa ta'ala the Tawaboon were a group of people the likes of Suleiman al-Sard al-Khaza'i and others who felt guilty that they did not help Imam al-Hussain al-Salam at Karbala and these people sincerely sought to repent so that's an example of a group of people which you could refer to I believe we have a caller on the line Salamu alaykum your name and where you are calling from I'm Dinesh I'm calling from Dubai I'd like to ask two questions with Sayyed Salam alaykum Sayyed I'd like to ask whether Bibi Zainab and other family members of Prophet Muhammad how long were they imprisoned by Azid I never get this answer from any alama clearly that for how many days they were imprisoned and to add on to that when did they come back to Karbala to bury the dead bodies of Imam Hussain and his followers the other Shah-Daz these are the two questions I would like to get clear about sure thank you very much Salam alaykum your opinion and the opinion of some of our greatest alama I remember once again being asked this question and I know very well that one of our great scholars Sheikh Al-Qurbasi one of our great scholars who has done hundred volumes in London who has done so much work on Imam Hussain alaykum they are of the opinion that the journey from Karbala to Khufa back to Karbala was a 40 day journey wow they do not take the opinion that the family of the Prophet stayed in Sham in prison for one year there may be the odd solitary report about a year in prison they do not take this they rather take the opinion that while they were in Sham to just after the 10th of Safar and from there they took the shorter route back to Karbala to arrive at Karbala on the 20th of Safar in the same year following year and this is the second question in regards to the burials did they happen on the return or did they happen the burials happened a couple of days after Imam Hussain died he was buried the heads according to the opinions of some of the scholars were taken back to the bodies upon the return to Karbala after Sham thank you very much let's return to our discussion in regards to Zaynab so midway through her sermon there is a moment where all of a sudden she says although the plight has made me speak to you me and you never chat because someone like him is the scum of the earth me and you don't chat but the plight has led to me speaking to you although the plight has made me speak to you I find speaking to you of little value Yazid but scolding you I find great therefore I'll continue to scold you anyone who tells me that in Islam a woman has no voice come watch Zaynab in Sham although the plight has made me speak to you I find speaking to you of little value but scolding you I find great therefore I'll continue to scold you the eyes are tearful and the heart is sorrowful how ironic it is that the members of the party of Allah are killed by the members of the party of shaitan she has just made it clear that Yazid bin Muawiyah anyone who later one day comes and says may Allah be pleased the members of the party of Allah are killed by the members of the party of shaitan leaving their bodies alone on the grounds of kalabana then she says you know what Yazid your government is unstable she has seen what is going on this government is unstable your ideas are transitory oh Yazid however hard you try and this is the most powerful moment in Sham oh Yazid however hard you try you'll never remove our love and our memory from the hearts of the people Karbala today how many years it's been Karbala today you go to Europe there are remembrance of Imam Hussain Middle East remembrance of Imam Hussain South America remembrance of Imam Hussain North America remembrance of Africa the forest Australia remembrance of Imam Hussain wherever you go in the world what say to zaynab say to Yazid however hard you try you kill my brother you're humiliating us you'll never obliterate our love and our memory from the hearts of the people that will never happen all of us grow up on the love of Zaynab all of us grow up on the love of Imam Hussain and they try to obliterate Mu'tawakil try to destroy the graves of the Ahlul Bayt others try to Saddam Hussain in 91 and his son in law Hussain Kamil try to destroy the shrine of Imam Hussain in Karbala where he where he they try to destroy the grave of Zaynab where he however hard you try you'll never obliterate our love and our memory from the hearts of the people I believe we have another caller on the line Salam alaykum Salam alaykum Salam alaykum your question please hello can you hear me sister we can hear you loud and clear can you hear me we have a technical difficulty I do apologize to the viewers if you are having technical difficulties please hang up and try again and inshallah we'll get your question say the love of the Ahlul Bayt you'll never obliterate our love and our memory from the hearts of the people and she goes I thank Allah subhanu wa ta'ala I thank Allah you've lost Aoun, you've lost Muhammed you've lost Abbas, you've lost Hussain but Allah says in the Quran la'in shakartum la'zid anakum be thankful to me I'll give you more don't worry I'll make sure that you're not ever forgotten who gave us martyrdom and who gave us blessings and all I ask from Allah is to recompense those martyrs at Karbala those who have lost their lives Ya Allah reward them for what they've done Yazid has no reply and can you imagine Imam Zayn al-Abideen now Imam of Al-Muhammed what's his eloquence going to be like and Imam Zayn al-Abideen up to this point some don't even know who he is he killed Ali bin Hussain at Karbala no that was Akbar, this is another one so now there's a double a double combo about to attack Yazid that Imam Zayn al-Abideen now is going to say to him you think that my aunt Zaynab could speak you're not ready for what you're going to hear and Imam Zayn al-Abideen begins Allah has granted us six and given us excellence in seven He has granted us knowledge and patience and eloquence and generosity and the believers affection for us knowledge requires patience and the eloquence to deliver it but generosity from the human being to give away but also all of this will not be complete without the believers and their affection for us and he has given us excellence excellence in seven from us as the Holy Prophet from us as Ali from us as Ja'far from us as Hamza from us as who Fatim, Hassan and Hussain and the Mehdi, yes I believe we have a call online insha'Allah we'll get through this time Salamu alaykum Salamu alaykum do apologize for that I believe we have some more technical difficulties but please keep trying to call in and insha'Allah we'll get your question on to the show we've had some callers already before and the technical staff are telling me now that all lines are clear and are working so please try calling again and we'll get you on to the show insha'Allah Allah has given us excellence in seven yes and he mentions them from us, not from a random person from us as the Rasulallah from us as Ali from us as Ja'far al-Tayyar from us as Shohadah from us as Imam Hassan and Imam Hussain then he looks around at everyone and says those of you who know me know me those of you who don't, let me tell you who I am do you know what he's doing at that moment I'm going to kill off all the propaganda I'm going to kill it off I am the son of Mecca and Mina you claim to all be Muslims I'm the son of Mecca and Mina I'm the great grandson of the Prophet Muhammad I'm the son of Mecca and Mina I'm the son of Zem Zem and Safa you don't Safa and Marwa Zem Zem water I'm the son of that meaning that all of that you know it because of my grandfather I am the son of the man who was the greatest to circumambulate the Ka'bah and the man who held the black stone within his aba I am the son of the man who was taken by Buraq through the air I am the son of the man who led the angels in prayer I am the son of the man who was taken to Sidrat al-Muntah I am the son of Muhammad al-Mustafa sallallahu alaihi wa sallam I am the son of Ali al-Murtabah the man who fought the disbelievers until they said it's always interesting when you forget your phone I am the son of the man who fought the disbelievers until they said la ilaha illallah now he begins with the merits of Imam Ali what did I say at the beginning of the show at the beginning of the show I said that in Sham there was the hatred of Ali yes the umayyid aim was to remove Ali from the history yes listen to the way he describes Imam Ali I am the son of Ali al-Murtabah the man who fought the disbelievers until they said la ilaha illallah I am the son of the man who fought with two swords and with two spears and went on two migrations and fought at Badr and at Hunay I am the son of the believers pious one the descendant of the prophets annihilator of the polytheists commander of the faithful glory of the worshipers honorable of the cryers that description he is shaking umayyid he is shaking them you know who Ali al-Murtabah is believers pious one descendant of the prophets annihilator of the polytheists commander of the faithful glory of the worshipers honorable of the cryers the best of them in prayer I am the son of the man who was the arrow of God targeting the hypocrites and the gardens of the treasures of his wisdom the best amongst the people in prayer I am the son of the man who was assisted by Jibra'il and Meekahil I am the son of the man who was a Mecki I'm a Madani, I'm a Khayfi, I'm a Aqabi I'm a Muhajiri, I'm an Ansari the inheritor of the Mash'alai the father of Hassan and Hussein that's my grandfather Ali ibn Abi Ta'al then he says I'm the son of the woman who was deemed pure on the father then he says I'm the son of the man whose body lies on the ground in Qadabana at that moment Yazid knows that this sermon has not just included the things that Umayyid always used to make fun of such as the Me'raj has also included the fad'ail of Ibn Ali Ibn Abi Ta'al Ibn Ali and no medjilist can be complete without fad'ail of Ibn Ali Yazid knows now he's got to stop this what does Yazid do? let the adhan be recited cut the sermon let the adhan be recited was actually time for Salah at that time if his father can make Salah to Juma on a Wednesday who cares what time it is so clearly Yazid was shaken by all of this he's shaken and he's now said that let the adhan be recited and that's one of my theories for why they haven't stayed in the prison for a year because I believe that those sermons have shaken him that he's got to let go of them and he's done and he keeps them in prison for a year that means those sermons didn't do anything but those sermons shook the crowd people would begin to ask questions and the adhan is recited Allahu Akbar Imam Zainab Ibn Sayyid truly the Lord is the greatest Ashhadu an la ilaha illallah my tongue and my skin and my flesh all testify that there is no God but Allah Ashhadu anna Muhammadan Rasulullah he asked him Yazid is he your grandfather or is he mine if you say he's yours you're a liar if you say he's mine then why have you done this to the family Yazid's finished now finished in which sense Yazid al-Muawiyah stays in power for two years after Karbala Waqaaat al-Hurrah which is mentioned when he pillages Medina and Mecca that happens after Karbala but he wanted to embarrass al-Muhammad at the end he himself is embarrassed and he tells Sayyid al-Zaynab alaihi salam okay what do you want she said what you took from me you can never give back she said let us return back to Medina via Karbala Sayyid al-Zaynab and Imam Zainab in two sermons rock the foundation of the Umayyids in Shah the Umayyids ruled after Karbala for over 60 years but never in a comfortable position they either had to have blood-thirsty governors took well any movement of an uprising your internal battles and struggles your later Abbasid uprising but that was the beginning of when people noticed that you know what you can speak out and from there the family went towards Karbala and the narrations mention that as they went towards Karbala on the 20th of Safar Jabir bin Abdullah al-Ansari with Atiyah al-Awfi came towards Karbala so what was it like for them returning to Karbala I mean you've already stated that they weren't in prison for a year most likely so if you could you know how would they release then and what was the journey like so we said that they weren't in prison for a year they were allowed to be released and they went towards Karbala this time much easier for them to go to towards Karbala but definitely not emotionally easy you've got to bury the heads back with the bodies it's a difficult moment and you know for the likes of Seda Zayn Rabah the children going back to those holy bodies but Subhanallah the Zawar continued to honor the 20th of Safar every year when we go for 40 that people flock in their millions indeed because they wanted to honor that lady and the way she made sure that Karbala was not to be forgotten you see when Imam Ali died people put the blame on Ibn Muljam when Imam Al-Hassan died people put the blame on his wife Juhda nobody said Mu'awiyah had anything to do with it with Imam Ali Mu'awiyah said I was also a victim of an assassination attempt when Imam Al-Hassan died no one said Mu'awiyah sent poison to Juhda to kill Imam Al-Hassan with Imam Al-Hussain Yazeed would have got away with killing Imam would have got away with killing Imam Hussain because he would say I was in Sham Hussain was killing Karbala were it not for Zaynab facing him I sent we can never ever appreciate what Zaynab done alayhi salam for the religion of Islam but one way we could show is by going on the Arba'een on the 40th to go and visit her holy grave if not her grave the grave of Aba'ab Abdullah Al-Hussain where we can all go and you see now over 20 million people we'll be going to Karbala in the first week of November and I tell all the viewers out there if you haven't been to Karbala then you haven't lived Imam Al-Saleq says Iqfir li wal iqwani wa zuwar qabri abiyab Abdullah Al-Hussain alayhi salam O Allah forgive me and my brothers and the visitors to the grave of Imam Al-Hussain alayhi salam aladina anfaqoo amwalahum those who spend their money to go see him wa ashaasoo abdanahum they put their bodies in danger Ziyara can be dangerous yeah I I believe I was with you when I went to Samara I think a day after the bomb exploded yes raghbatan feebarina wa rajaan lima aandaka fee wa saltana wa sororan atkhaloohu ala nabiyaq sallallahu alayhi walayhi they come because they want to maintain their relation with us and they want to put a smile on the face of Rasulallah someone wants to come to visit Imam Al-Hussain alayhi salam Imam al-Sadiq continues by saying farham tilkal khudood alati taqalabata ala zariha abiyab Abdullah wa ala qabri abiyab Abdullah have mercy on the cheeks that rubbed themselves on the grave of Abba Abdullah warham tilkal aayun alati jarad dumu'aha lana have mercy on those eyes that shed tears for us warham tilkal quloob alati have mercy on those hearts that burn for us warham tilkal ujooh alati ghayrat al shams have mercy on those faces that the sun burned hot weather but they walk to Karbala just to honor that journey Imam al-Sadiq tells Muawiyah at the end of that dua'a Allahumma anni astawdaaka tilkal anfus wa tilkal abdan hatta turawiyahum min al-hawth ya Allah these zuar of Hussain I leave them in your hands on the day of judgment that you quench their thirst from the pool of qawthah on the day when all are thirsty so Ahl al-Bayt give great value that in the same way Jaber bin Abdullah al-Ansari went to visit the grave of Imam al-Hussain on the 20th of Safar likewise we should undertake the same definitely to the brothers and sisters watching we've only got about 10-12 minutes of the show left and if you'd like to call in with a question to Sayyed Ahmad please call us on 0203-515-0199 we were talking about the journey coming into the people there and the atrocities and what's happened to Ali Muhammad what about those in Medina for them I mean, for example, Umm al-Baneen how did she get how did they get news? it's devastating when you hear Umm al-Baneen the mother of Aba al-Fadl al-Abbas and his three brothers, so four sons killed at Karbala Bishar bin Hadlam is the one who calls out that there is news from Karbala and when she comes to wanting to hear the news she's got the child of Aba al-Fadl in her hand now can you imagine a mum who doesn't know about what's happened to her sons and then all of a sudden someone comes and says, I've got news about the people's sons who wants to know she says, tell us about Karbala and he says, who is that lady and they tell him, you don't know her, that's Umm al-Baneen so he says to me, Allah reward you over the death of your son, Abdullah she says, tell me about Aba al-Abbas who's mother is she? Aba al-Fadl al-Abbas who does she say, tell me about? Aba al-Abbas she's got that unbelievable level of Iman your son is Aba, no, no tell me about Hussain, he's the Imam of my time may Allah reward you over the death of your son, Ja'far tell me about Aba Abdullah may Allah reward you over the death of your son, Uthman may Allah, she says, tell me about Aba Abdullah then he says to her, may Allah reward you over the death of your son, Abbas she drops the child but she still stands up and says and that's why one of the poets says it quite beautifully that it's as if Umm al-Baneen is saying if you gave me the heavens and the earth and you gave me 70 Abbas I'll swap all of them to see Imam al-Hussain's head in peace that's the love, Ja'far devastating, but she goes to console Sayda Zaynah with Sayda Fidla all of them are sitting together there consoling one another and then you've got a daughter of Imam al-Hussain waiting for news, you've got Abdullah bin Ja'far waiting to meet Sayda Zaynah so that period is an extremely tragic period it's sad, it's for Rabab, the mother of the six month old baby she doesn't even want a roof on top of her head she cannot bear the idea that she's being covered from sunlight and her husband Imam al-Hussain was burnt by the sun in Karbala yeah, it's difficult Sayda, will your permission can we take some questions? a lot are asking for the topics and the discussion we've had today in regards to the journey back and what's happened in the court of Yazid any good English literature to go alongside the discussion that's all I think Ansarian Publications and Qom published a work about seven, eight years ago called The Tragic Saga of Karbala The Tragic Saga of Karbala I think it's a good narrative which includes all of this journey another question I've heard that historians say that Imam al-Hussain had a combined army of 5,000 is it true, if yes then why do we always talk about the 72 so more on how many people were actually with Imam al-Hussain I'd say maximum numbers companions plus family members plus those who joined his side on the 10th of Muharram and the women and the children with all of them to about 120 let's say maybe on you know coming into Karbala some figures go up to 600 but coming into Karbala but then those who leave those who go back and so on ends up with maximum 120 on the 10th of Muharram a lot of questions are asking about your personal email or some way they can contact you do you actually have a website or anything that the viewers can actually come and send direct personal questions well I think if any of the viewers want to contact Imam al-Hussain TV the admin team here you just on the email right for the live live show and then we can try and answer as many as possible the email is actually info at imamhussain.tv that's info at imamhussain.tv we're more than happy to fold your questions on to say that Ammar a question here a little bit of topic about what are the other schools under the Shia community other than the Jafri school of thought you have the Zaid school which goes up to Imam Zain al-Abideen then goes to his son Zaid and then you have the Ismaili school which goes to Imam al-Sadaq and then from there to his son Ismail onwards this is a very good question very relevant according to your research my question is when did Lady Zainab introduce Latam as soon as some people say she did it to encourage the remembrance of Karbala so I want to know how she introduced and incorporated such things if there are merits of doing these or is it just tradition so a question in regards to the azah and forms of azah Latam were in black I mean was this actually introduced by the Ahlul Bey to himself or not well in Ziyarat al-Nahya we have the lines that the woman of al-Muhammad upon seeing what happened to Imam al-Hussain and the horse with no horse rider some of them slapped their cheeks and within their tents some of them let their hair out not in front of the men and within their tents doesn't mean they went out running in front of the men rather within their tents so it's a sign of their grief one form of jaza for Imam al-Hussain there's a hadith Muawiyah there's a hadith of Jabr where he asks Imam al-Baqir what is the meaning of jaza and he says jaza is an extreme form of grief and one of the things he mentions is the slapping on the cheek or the slapping on the chest because we have the hadith from Imam al-Sada he says jaza is an extreme form of grief except for Imam al-Hussain that's all forms of extreme grief are not recommended in Islam except for Imam al-Hussain but what's extreme grief what's jaza that for example some may slap their chest in honor of the chest that was trampled on by the horses others may slap their cheeks yes this is of the definitions of jaza jaza so you find that there are people today when you see the Shi'a beating their chest it's in honor of the chest of Imam al-Hussain which the horses trampled on after they killed him however with Sayyid al-Zaynab if people are only going to focus on this then they've missed the bigger picture of Sayyid al-Zaynab Sayyid al-Zaynab is a lesson on how you remain attached to the Quran on how you remain attached to your Salah on how you maintain your dignity in the face of humiliation how brave and how honorable you can be in front of the worst and most barbaric of God's creations these are the lessons to learn but for a person to come and say that what I learned from Zaynab is to slap my cheek this is the lowest of the law and really shows that they haven't understood the essence of what Zaynab means a question here from well there's no need to mention the name or where from because it's quite personal but in regards to maintaining a relationship with their family member who seems to be quite nice with other family members however he has habits such as we could say that relate to those or the polytheists but those who are on the other side of the camp of Imam al-Hussain for example maybe some drinking involved maybe some merry making maybe not serious enough or practicing enough how to maintain relationships with someone like that what would you suggest we're still very general but if for example you're in a relationship with someone let's say you're a wife your husband is someone who let's say drinks alcohol that seems to be prohibited in Islam you know you have to pray for their guidance inshallah hopefully that Allah swt guides them you try and see someone of wisdom someone he respects who's a scholar who could possibly sit with him try and advise him in a friend circle and tell them to remind him and we hope that you know the relationship is something that is built and not something that is broken it's a shame when we hear that there are people out there who love Imam al-Hussain but at the same time he doesn't mind having the odd drink as if his love for Imam al-Hussain somehow means he can do that in Islamic law you can't a true love of Imam al-Hussain will not act like Yazid or have the principles of Yazid so such reminders inshallah will help them inshallah we pray for that family as well inshallah they could improve their their relationship final question say Dizayna returns to Medina but she's buried in Sham also they say she's buried in Sham what's the story why is her grave not in Medina yeah there's two opinions three opinions as to where she's buried one is the very weak opinion of Medina then you have two stronger opinions one Cairo the other being Sham it seems like she's given Yazid so much trouble in Medina she's also giving sermons against Yazid and the governor writes to him to say that she's causing trouble here seemingly Yazid orders that she's made to live not near the palace because she doesn't want to see these people again but rather on the outskirts where her shrine is today others say that no that there was a governor who was in Cairo who had more love for the Ahl al-Bayd and she decides to go and live there near her cousin until she dies in Cairo but at the end of the day you know your intention is to go and visit Zaynab wallahu a'ala that's it thank you very much for this discussion God bless and we look forward inshallah before we leave a final note to the viewers something that you would like them to take away from this discussion well I think you know just looking at Zaynab sermon just you know try your hardest every once in a while to reflect on that sermon see what was the essence of Zaynab the essence it's a sermon full of profound wisdom like her mother's sermon known as the Khotba al-Fadakia both of these sermons like all the sermons of Ahl al-Muhammad you'll find the natural Balagh and other works try and reflect on them inshallah thank you very much brothers and sisters thank you very much for joining us for this discussion I hope it's been beneficial and I hope that you have learned that Muharram is not just the 10 days and it's not just the death of Aba'ab de laab but also the atrocities and the tragedies that occurred upon Ahl al-Muhammad especially Imam al-Sajjad and also say the Zaynab remember to join us again for live in London with a new discussion salamu alaikum