 Wao, Tashline continue this particular afternoon. Right now we discuss about African Cup of Nations currently in Cameroon and we give preview of what is expected to happen tonight. Of course at 7 pm East African Cup time, Gambia taking on the host Cameroon in a do or die fixture. There are reports coming in that you know five players from Gambia national team have tested positive. But of course the team is insisting that they have done their independent testing and the players are fit to play. Eric Aganya is joining us but still of course still with us Eric. What's happening whereas African Cup of Nations is concerned. Before we get to that game there has been upsets, some favourites who are tipped to win the championship have all been eliminated from the competition. We saw what happened with Ivor Kosti, Eric Baili, a player that plays for your favourite club Manchester United. Mispar in during penalty shootouts and you know the likes of Senegal, though favourites but not convincing. What's the way for one? I think everybody was really disappointed or everybody was really shocked when the likes of Algeria were being eliminated. Because bearing in mind we are defending champions. We saw what happened to Nigeria also. They were knocked out and also we've seen recently we saw what happened to Ivor Kosti. I think there is some sluggishness in the big team. They don't know what happened. Is it that their professional footballers really want to go back to Europe or what is it? Because I couldn't understand what you just mentioned Eric, but I couldn't understand what he was doing. Because you have an opportunity, the shoulders you have everything, the team is depending on you to take that penalty. It's not a place where you now want to try some funny tricks and not look penalty seriously. When you are qualifying to the quarter finals, I think that was a joke. That was a joke and most of all I had to score the winning penalty. You know it had to be reserved for him so that he converts it as the last taker of the penalty. And he did it very well and Egypt are through to the quarters. I suspect Egypt also are saving the best for the last time and when they get to such a stage they become very serious and focused. It's not surprising that Mohammad Salat took the last penalty. He's confident. I don't remember if he's ever lost a decisive penalty. So Egypt are through. So now we wait for Cameroon Gambia to win. Cameroon Gambia this particular evening. Can it be a fixed example of what happened when Cameroon the hosts played against Comorros. One of their players was getting regarded at the earlier stage but still they did very well. I remember the game everybody was saying that Cameroon won the game but Comorros won the hearts of everybody. Yes. They gave it all and we can see Cameroon is fluking through because you look at the game against Comorros. 11 vs 11 Comorros could have brought in an upset and we've seen Gambia and nobody expected Gambia to make it to the quarter finals. So Cameroon have not really been convincing. I think there is only one game that they won by four goals. I think it was against Ethiopia or some convincing win. They have not really been convincing as a team and we've seen accusations and counter accusations of a player. None of their players has tested positive throughout the tournament. This is the tournament kicked off. We have five players who have tested positive although Gambia have come out and said they did their independent test and none of their players has tested positive. So we have that game of musical chairs and Cameroon are fluking through and maybe today it may be an upset. So it's a strategy because my producer Fadil Atman is telling me that every time Cameroon is about to face an opponent, it happens that most of the opponent players are testing positive while Cameroon's players are intact. So it's a strategy but that is not sportsmanship. Exactly. They want to win it through hook and crook. Yes. Already they have the home ground advantage. They have the fans on their side and I think on a fair table. They could have lost against Komoros because look at Komoros their players out. That confusion of players testing positive and negative. It destabilizes the team and eventually throws the coach into panic and that is what Cameroon is doing to the opponents. Bari Tunisia up against Bukina Faso at 10 pm East African time. Tunisia has also advanced through not really convincing the struggle. Remember they went to the round of screen from group stages one of the third best finishers. And they didn't finish us first and two in their respective group. Do they have an age over their opponents this particular evening? Yes Tunisia has an age what they need to do is bury their chances. I don't think they have been very effective up front. Yes. Yes I'm not even considered many goals but Bukina Faso to me they remind me of Malawi or Sierra Leone. These are tournament underdogs and they can cause upsets so Tunisia must be very cautious. Otherwise Bukina Faso might pull a first and might pull a surprise but Tunisia have to be hungry especially the likes of Jaziri and they have to bury the game as early as possible. Otherwise if you allow for example Bukina Faso to settle in then Tunisia might have a problem. But I see Tunisia going through. What is shocking me in 2004 African Cup of Nations when Kenya polified and while we were at the group stage I remember them facing Bukina Faso and beating them 3-0 during their last group clash. Denis Oliyech was on the score alongside the likes of John Baraza, former Sovapaka tactician and you know Sovapaka had a diafkan while Kenya is not. Bukina Faso I mean. That speaks a volume about how we take the seriousness we take the sport in Kenya with because you look at countries like Bukina Faso, countries like Komoros. Look at what Komoros has been able to do. That's a very small country but they manage their sports or the football properly so that comes to our management and preparation for these tournaments because this is a year that we expected will make it to the afkans. Look at what happens in the qualifier. We fire and hire coaches at will. We destabilize the team. Eventually there is no continuity. When a coach wants to get that continuity, he is discontinued. There are rumors that he is likely to come back again. So you see such kind of things are destabilizing our football and we are seeing as he said Bukina Faso. I am putting my money on Bukina Faso today. Bukina Faso have a youthful team and if you look at the previous matches they are able to knock the ball around. They have the confidence and if they are able to take the chances they will get then Tunisia is in trouble. Tunisia have not been on form and these have gone. But is there a likelihood that Minos can pull a surprise and lift the title because most of the heavyweights have already been eliminated from the competition, the likes of Nigeria, Gana getting eliminated at the group stage and the coach was fired. I think now it's time to be serious. So when people are looking at quotas I'm afraid Gambia Bukina Faso unless a mystery, magic happens but if they are confident like I said they can pull through but also it's only Gambia Bukina Faso remaining. The rest of the big boys. I was talking to somebody if you allow at least two North African countries to get into this stage. One of them will lift it. And it's a North African dabi to Morocco against Morocco. Big clash. The good thing one of them will go home. So that neutralizes. Senegal Cameroon I see them going through I don't really think the Minos will manage especially once you go to... There is no possibility. Cameroon at the home team maybe they can be favored. Senegal looks strong now. One of Egypt and Morocco one of them is going through. Sadio Manu was doubtful now is fit to start and that is a big announcement coming from the Konanga Lions. It's confirmed to start although they have been misfiring you look at the expectations and you look at the squad that they have the caliber of players that they have you expect them to be scoring so many goals but they have been winning one nil, one one and they've not scored a lot of goals. But him now talking about him I think also it reflects negatively on us as Africa because the player welfare look at when he got the injury look at the response of the medical team. Very immediate. We need to invest more in player welfare because you see that was a life threatening injury. He fell in a very awkward manner and it's miraculous that he was able to to wake up and his feet to play. But him playing it's a big boost to the Senegalese team because he's a player who can bring in the individual brilliance when the team is not doing very well that one chance takes it and scores and you've seen the likes of him and Mo Salah they can withstand that pressure I saw the first game they were almost drawing got a penalty in the last minute many players may not take that chance and he took the chance and scored the penalty faultlessly so I think him coming back it's a big win for Senegal. Big win for Senegal you saying you know the dabby we looking forward to tomorrow beating Egypt and Morocco one of them obviously will be eliminated but where do we place our man? I think it's going to be tight and first of all how come ZH was not called up? No that's interesting because I think also because ZH is not really a regular they all expected him to be regular maybe that's why the coach decided him to stay out but apart from that Morocco have very quality even without ZH out same to Egypt have individual talent like Mo Salah I think that's going to be very tight it might be decided by a sport kicks or 2-1 or 1-0 win I think I had fever I did to go through The end I wrote to assessment about African cup of nations 2021 edition I have been disappointed with Kamerun as the host in terms of working well on their ground apart from that officiating has been terrible to say the least we have had very questionable calls by the referee and I think this is one of the tournaments we have seen a lot of red cuts yes some of them are genuine but we have seen also very fast equal officiating you remember that Zambian referee but also we have seen talent coming up talent showing in that stage so it's been a tournament of mixed issues coming through what else can we talk about I think to add on what you said about officiating officiating has been terrible has been terrible and also for me came getting ended before full time before full time 3 minutes later 89 there were reports that came in that the center referee the man was presiding over that came was undergoing some tribulations health issues related to heat stroke but you see there is a fourth official who can step in in case of such kind of cases and the same referee in the same game was contradicting the VAR that one you cannot put it on the heat stroke and then if you look at this African cup of nations you find that in my opinion the big players did not live up to expectation we were expecting more seller to come and does all Africa nothing we were expecting Sadio Mani to do what he does we have not seen that we have not seen that some guitar he is an adding football fan and also one of the panelist on this particular short saying that ZH faked an injury last year opted to remain at Chelsea the coach got anger after that I had the coach saying that ZH when he was still at Ajax he had anger to play but when he went to Chelsea he got into a comfort zone he came out completely because that anger is no longer there he got a big club he got comfortable and we have seen his chances at Chelsea they have been slim apart from right now after he scored a wonder goal the other day when they were playing against I think Tottenham but basically he has been on the bench most of the time and you know a coach decision in the event that he does that he left him out of the squad and what happens to lift the title he will be vindicated he will say I did what is in the best interest of the team and ZH like what happened it was which edition when Cameroon Defender playing for Liverpool he was not called up I think this guy who plays for Liverpool as a defender he was not called up the team went ahead to do very well in that edition but you see that is the problem with African players look at right now you are seeing that the young players are really playing giving it all in the African cup but once they get those big clubs they become comfortable they don't want to play for their national team anymore it says a lot about our patriotism and our love for our countries we can also add by saying that I can also congratulate coaches for being bold some teams like Malawi and Zimbabwe decided to go 90% local players that means giving chance to even home based players it encourages this boys we have seen a lot of talent even Zimbabwe did well without their star Kamal Biliat so it means if you give them a platform they will show what they can do like even in Kenya we can try that qualify for continental football competition then use our local base talents rather than going for foreign the problem with star players is there is a lot of ego and they want to show but it has to be jail and blend you mix both local base and just playing professional football overseas away from matters afghan but still related to african football we saw the comments for Jan Infantino president of world football governing body FIFA saying that banyan world cup competition will help Africans not to risk crossing Mediterranean let Rony say that he was quoted out of context because it is something that has formed the base of discussion online with people now saying that how can Infantino talk that of Africans what did he mean? Infantino is just being realistic and saying that the banyan world cup will bring more resources maybe if Africa is given a chance to host will pump in more resources we develop our structures we strengthen our leagues so that these players to want to go out and you look at the Arab countries what they have done in Morocco they have increased salaries in their leagues we have had Egypt and you find that players who play for clubs like Alhany will not want to go to Europe and play because they have everything they will get in Europe and if we have everything that will get in Europe will not go to Europe and you see we should not take it negative we should take those points positively and develop our football structures in Africa because if our players let's just pick Kenya for example if our players are well paid they will not cross over to Tanzania they will not cross over to Zambia because you see our players crossing over to Zambia to South Africa within Africa now South African players want to cross over to to Europe to go and play but if we develop that and we have sponsors and we run our leagues properly because nobody would like to leave his family here and go chasing money if you give them the money here so you see we should take it positively however I disagree with him when we talk about now World Cup coming after 2 years that will be too harsh on the players World Cup after every 2 years it will water down the profile of the competition because they say that you know when that happens and teams happen to be increased from 32 to 48 African countries will get a chance even Kenya might qualify I think like you said it's going to water down neutralize the competition element first of all like Eric said 2 years is short we have other competitions in between we have Euro Cup when will they be played and AFKON, when will it be shared so we are looking at the situation so much football for players who don't have time to rest and it will definitely neutralize the competitive effect for clubs and also I think the president in Patina maybe was misquoted and it was a heavy political statement remember when you talk about crossing the Mediterranean it's not just about football if people going to look for alternatives to take care of their families so unless he probably also gets to clarify what he meant to me that statement wasn't related to football maybe needs to clear the head I've seen some press release indicating that Patrick Motepe president of confederation of African football has received a lot of responses from FA presidents in several countries in Africa saying that you know they were impressed by the speech of Gianni Fagtino it is something that is not going down well with a lot of football followers in this particular continent saying that we just ask kisses that's a big problem if we can just celebrate because the father has spoken FIFA is the parent we are not looking at the details in how this will affect players this will affect leagues I'm wondering how leagues will they reschedule how leagues run for example they say tighten your leagues instead of 6 months play it in 4 months because for you to play World Cup every 2 years this FA bosses must understand the effects of fatigue injuries and all this stuff unless now they say every team has 35 players and with leagues like in Kenya for example where you can't afford to play 25 players how will that work so we have to look at the pros and cons of all this but I've seen it is something that is likely to be rejected by several players the colors of football in the world especially football players but you see here I don't think the player has the power because here are the sponsors the sponsors because there are people who are throwing money into it and thinking if World Cup comes after 2 years will make a killing every 2 years because they are able to do their marketing for their products after every 2 years but nobody cares about the players and that's where now we find that organizations that defend the players have slept on the job because but you have no choice for example if you are old by Nike you are dressed by Nike Nike will take away the sponsorship you have no choice and you have to show up for that because now the sponsors and the marketers and the betting companies have also come and they have invested a lot of money they are dressing these players if you are putting on Nike and Nike says we are going to have a World Cup after every 2 years you have no choice as a player if you are putting on Adidas and Adidas are saying we are going to do that you have no choice as a player but what we want to appeal to these people is that look at the human part look at like this year we are going to have we have had Mosalah playing African Cup of Nations we have had the same thing Mosalah wants to represent the Champions League and then should they qualify for the World Cup in December he has to play again the World Cup are you seeing that play and then again go back and start a season the longevity of that player is shortened because there will be injuries there will be fatigue there is no precision, there is no rest and that is not something that we would like to encourage and maybe max i can ask there is also the element of TV probably the FIFA let's say FIFA and pressure from let's say Broadcasters Broadcas raise money is too much FIFA wants that money so these guys have no choice but to do us as the players Sponsors want them to do Sponsors are key and Sponsors are the bosses let's talk about something else this weekend there is no football in Europe most Kenyans are kinfollowers kafa secretary general former friend Nicholas Mosalah Kenyans Kenyans sits in Nairobi West to take beer but they have forgotten Kenyans playing Kenyans return and it was extremely very right because we never follow what is close to our hearts whenever Kenyans playing during this formula assignments like African cup of nation qualifiers World cup qualifiers and asnol is playing against West Bromwich and someone would prefer going to the joint to catch a European clash and like you know going to the stadium playing again extremely but you see as they always say me have interviewed several fans not necessarily formally interviewed TV radio but just talking on the streets asking them Kenyan football nobody for my money I will go to Kenya playing against Botswana maybe dull or boring fixture nothing nothing to write home about are they justified? they are justified because again if you look at not only in the national team even our league the quality the quality sometimes is low and Kenyan would rather say let me sit in a bar spend my money rather than go and get bored because it's leisure it's on a Saturday he wants to entertain himself and that means we need to raise our game in terms of organization in terms of fielding of players players develop players were exciting and we have those players if we can put structures in place we will be home and dry and goals that are also there you saw what happened in the women's football one the FKF writing that we shall not field a team and the team is in camp it's preparing such kind of things they don't know gavel it's very unfortunate because these ladies have been in camp they have been training why don't you give them a chance to represent the country and you know the latest being that government has reiterated their commitment through the minister of sports I saw the letter the team is at the camp but more international sports center intensifying their preparation to play against Uganda so that they can make it to African women cup of nations happening in Morocco right? and that information circulating around the one that has gone viral should be treated as rumors and misinformation but you see this guy is wrote to calf you are writing to calf yet you are not in office there is a caretaker management committee taking over I don't think that is really fair to these girls because they have been in camp they have been training they need that opportunity and that exposure because we need games and during the caretaker committee we have Kenya play Rwanda the boys played Rwanda and there was no problem so I think it's only fair for these women to be given that chance to play against Uganda and they may make it sorry Mark I just got some inside information from even some people at calf they are saying this is already this is public knowledge calf listens only to FKF they don't care whether FKF has been disbanded according to them caretaker committee was elected by nobody so it might be wrong for an individual who has been suspended to write to them but to them this individual that is legitimate so according to them it has already been decided that Kenya must forfeit this much so I don't know like I was telling you earlier either this water goes to Kass or minister send somebody or she goes herself to Egypt Kass meaning coat of arbitration for sports or because according to Kenya government our ladies are in camp according to caretaker committee the ladies are in camp if indeed calf decides to give Uganda that but to go to Morocco and Kenya had not given the walkover intentionally because they were ready to travel next month so even the issue of what is the rush it's February 17 why elected decision now so this matter might force the government to go to Kass or go and talk to Egypt to calf but calf doesn't recognize this this caretaker committee mea let the law takes it is cause I don't know now what will happen especially to that person who allegedly authored the letters and I've seen that it is from a CEO of FKK and I've seen some quote that I read it out of maliz I don't know how true is that because it is something that we keeping an eye on it may be malicious because why didn't he write when Kenya was playing Rwanda the national team We need to take a management control. Why didn't he write? Why write right now? It's really bad for the women football. The women league ran for a whole year. They gave them 350,000 prize money. Then how do we develop football in Kenya? We need to do something about football in Kenya. Frank Lampard has taken over at Everton. There are rumas that he is likely to take over at Everton. I think it's a good stage for him because he has a way of working with young players. Everton is a team that is in Shambos right now. They never bought to the ideas of Rafa Benitez after Carlo Ancelotti left. They never got over it. Rafa Benitez was living on borrowed time. He had to go. I looked at the candidates. There was Fagason, Duncan Fagason. Why couldn't they elevate him? He looked like a good coach during that time. He was there during the game against Aston Villa. They lost to Aston Villa one meal. But I think Everton are looking at longevity. They had approached Wayne Rooney. But Wayne Rooney chose to remain at Derby. My all time favorite. For the time being. Frank Lampard is a good choice. Dhoni Vandebik has left United for Crystal Palace on loan. The boy has been frustrated. At the Old Trafford not getting regular playing time. I blame his agent for making that blanda. He was doing well in Ajax. Now he is shipped to Manchester. He doesn't sometimes even make it to the bench. It was a whole lot of frustration. Can Patrick Vieira rebuild him? Patrick Vieira can do that because I think he believes in that idea. Of encouraging even these young players. What is done with Kona and Plaga, the former Chelsea man who is on loan. So maybe Dhoni Vandebik just has to be positive. Have a right attitude. And he can resurrect his career. Because for me his career died when he was in Manchester. I think it's the system of play. His system of play didn't click with Manchester United. He's a kind of play. Look at John Mata. When John Mata came to Manchester United. System of play. He has not done much. Because those are the kind of players who are one, two. Manchester doesn't play that kind of football. And you see that's the kind of football that was going play at Ajax. At one given time we're blaming. But that's the beautiful football style. I think we need, man United need to have a manager who has a philosophy. Yes. Because since Alex Fattus on left man United has never had a certain specific pattern of playing football. The only person who had a philosophy was Louis van Gaal. Louis van Gaal had a philosophy. That he believed in. But a philosophy requires time. And you see these big clubs because of competition now people are put in a lot of money. They don't give the manager time. You come in one season half a zon. You don't perform you go. And Olegana was even lucky. He had more time that he was not performing by the fact that he was a legend. So you see, there are rumors that we may have the Ajax coach coming into Manchester United. Eric Ten Haag. Yeah, if Ten Haag comes then Don Van Beek will be able to come back and have that. And if they bring in such kind of a manager he requires time. Give him a five year contract. Give him a four year contract. And results will be there. Wow, gentlemen. It's been a pleasure having you on board this particular afternoon to discuss about sports happening both locally and even internationally. It's an international break which means there is no match of European football leagues happening and Kenyan Premier League is also on a break but Stalets, the fact remains that they are in Kambat Kasalani preparing to take on Uganda to see whether they can qualify to Morocco for African Women Cup of Nations despite that misinformation circulating around that they are pulled out. And of course it's a development we will be keeping a keen eye on and see how it pans out. Erika Ganya, Bari Sila. Thank you for coming through and see. Let's do this again next time same place. My name is Max Obasike. Good afternoon and God bless.