 This week on Fan Service, we discuss No gun's life Our first bad anime The first time we considered the fact that Something that we loved was created by a team of people And Godzilla's Roar! Welcome to Fan Service, Christie's official anime podcast I am one of your hosts, Cole, and I am joined by these lovely people around me Who are? I'm, uh, Miles Luna Chris Cocchino Tori Crawford And, uh, yeah, we're gonna We're not gonna talk about Hentai For the first time, we are, at some point But you said we were at Hentai Every fucking time with this So, this is a pretty momentous occasion This is the first time we're recording an episode with a plan Oh my god I thought you were gonna, I thought you were gonna say Literally anything else We kinda circled the wagons I didn't anticipate what we were doing We were so excited, there's some stuff that we're gonna cover today That I'm really looking forward to talking about And, uh, Barry and the lead, we are going to have our first post-show ever For Roosheeth first members, we'll give you more details about that later in the show Cool But, since we got so much to get through Let's jump into it Yeah Torian It's been a while, Torian Yeah, welcome back Handsome Torian How was your holidays? It was pretty uneventful, which is great That's perfect I didn't do nothing I sat around, it's not anime But, so I won't dab into it But I sat around and I binged a show called You Okay Ooh, I've heard a lot about, like, my roommate's watching that right now Yeah, I'm such a voice-favorite show Both seasons In, like, a couple days You dig it? So we're talking, I'm talking about staying up to eight o'clock in the morning Damn Did you like Dexter? I didn't watch Dexter Okay And a lot of people were, like, making that comparison That's what I've heard a lot But, um Oh, Dexter was great I'm, like, a sucker for, like, love stories Oh But this is, like, we'll just, like, romantic comedies or whatever Whatever This is different, which is why it was super interesting Cool Did you watch any anime? I did I watched the gun one The gun head I don't even remember Uh, Asi McGee? Not Asi McGee Oh Uh, gun This is not good We're not remembering the one We'll use the thing, right? Gun head No gun life No gun life, thank you I started watching it It kind of was dragging me along for a while But then I just, I just, I don't know It wasn't, it was grabbing me So Yes Oh, this way Look at that Oh my Oh no Hello, my honey No Um Listen And yeah, baby I'm always a scared to touch other people's equipment Is that better? It just wasn't grabbing me No, same Oh yeah Yeah So, like, yeah So, and you know And it was very And it was, and we were going to get to another thing That I kind of feel the same way about It was very disappointing Oh, really? Because it, first of all Intro Not film the intro It's so cool I like the intro more every time I watched it So wait So it went down for me Oh no What's the basic premise of this show? Because I looked at Oh, you haven't heard No, no, I've seen that it's about a guy who's got a gun For a face I'll try That's me, it looks like an all-guns life I'll try to explain the premise of it Okay Like, so Teach me It's like, so It's a world And you know Is this going? Where people There's other people in this world called extended Right? And they're like weapons of war You know, like kind of It's kind of, if I may Yeah, sure Imagine the world of ghosts in the shell Yeah And Deus Ex Human Revolution Yeah Which I love It's a post-war setting Yeah Due to this war There's a lot of cyborg weaponized people now Okay Left over in the world Like vet, like you know Just war veterans That aren't being taken care of That have to reintegrate Except Push it much more in the absurd Yeah As you have a man with a gun for a head Maybe were they humans before? Yes, they're all They're all augmented humans And like Ryan said They're now called extended They were modified to become weapons of war Kind of setting is them having to reintegrate Into society Which I think is a really cool Like, we've all shared a million stories You know, you got your Blade Runners You have all this Like the big evil corporation That supplies the enhancements But also like Sells the drugs to help you Keep your enhancements working And all this shit Like everyone's at the mercy Of this big corporation But what I really liked Was this focus on the sort of like Forgotten veterans of a war That like Yeah, you did this horrible thing To your body In order to fight for your country And now Not only do people not really care about you They're kind of scared of you Because of what you did To save them Sure It's like a light version Of what I wanted them to do Because it You think it is They're gonna like explore Like these veterans Or this lost time Or anything like that And they do But for whatever reason It seemed like contained on a few Like key people that they introduced you to And they don't really like Get more They don't really dramatize it more Which is whatever But my main reason why I don't like this show Or I was like Just disappointed Or I just kind of fell off of it Is that it did not turn as cool As it appeared to be Huh Were you Was it perhaps Because of the absurdity Of the character design You were expecting some trigger level Yeah Sort of wildness Yeah, but so it has like The absurdity of the character design But it feels like It wants a cowboy bebop tone Oh, okay Who is the studio that worked on it? Oh, that's a good question Because I feel like That probably will dictate Kind of the history It is very much like Madhouse Which Madhouse is What have they done historically? I believe that Madhouse did That's one punch man Madhouse? Yeah I mean it could be It could be a different team I feel like I don't like the animation either Interesting Death Note, one punch man No game, no life Hunter, hunter Wow It feels like The B team that did One punch man You know what punch man One punch man was before Yeah, yeah, yeah And I think season was like Yeah, yeah, yeah It feels like The B team That was a completely new studio For one punch man But I thought that was A decision made To match this try This sort of noir Type feel They wanted to go Kind of like real deep low key The show does focus On a single detective Yeah A veteran of the war Who has decided that Like his Yeah, the way he's going to Reintegrate back into society Or won't Is that he's going to work As a private eye I see And make money And use the fact that He's scary to like Intimidate And get jobs taken care of And stuff The biggest thing I can see That this director worked on Was Overlord Which I'm not To me It is a Completely serviceable Fine And there's nothing There's nothing that I would say is really Wrong with it I don't think it necessarily Has Major pacing issues To me There's just so much other stuff Out there right now We're in this time Where so many things Are competing for your time What were you all Watching for We all watching for mystery Watching for like action I was intrigued I was intrigued by The premise And the character design Sure I went in for the character Design And I thought that would Lead to like Equal, absurd Like action Or tone And when I Seen that it was Kind of like detective And it was kind of like Being a little bit More tourist drama But that's fine I like drama But it It wasn't like Interesting drama Like there's drama That can be interesting And be exciting Yeah I mean you'd expect that From like a noir setting Right Yeah Has noir been like A popular theme In anime before Have we ever seen that It's been done for sure Yeah Have we ever seen it Like I mean I guess you could Technically had the film noir Yeah The film noir Yeah Parts of it But like outside of that I don't I mean With my vast Knowledge of anime Sure I mean I feel like It kind of a lot of times Gets blood into More like Cyberpunk type stories It's more like Cyberpunk noir Like even like In something like Psychopaths Or Darker than black Darker than black Darker than black It's been too long I don't know Yeah It's something like Ever Even like What was it the Blood blockade Battlefront Like that even You know They're solving crimes And stuff like that Yeah And they can Maintain a very Interesting drama And every now Obviously they Hype it up Which I Like in Yeah That had Probably some noir I always Like in Blood blockade Battlefront Which I think Why you would Like it so much Is it's very Giving the main What I And I think like The second half Of Blood blockade Battlefront Kind of messed up Where it started Focusing on one story For the second half The main character Of that story Is the city Oh It's like You are pointing out More about the city Through the eyes Of the main character Which that's upon If you Watch it Okay He has the Eyes of God But The last thing I'll say about It seemed like They were starting to focus On like one story Yeah Oh interesting Oh You do Because I felt as though The story seemed to be focusing on The first episode Kind of has this Stinger revelation of There is a boy That Is essentially like The next evolution of extended That the big evil corporation Has been Experimenting on And over the course Of the first few episodes The first episode Is kind of establishing This idea of That can do X thing That's a big fucking deal Which essentially Since the first episode I'll talk about it He has an extended ability That allows him to control Other extenders That's crazy And that's crazy No one should be able to do that Curious But in order to get there They had to experiment The fuck out of this kid And he's essentially been Tortured his whole life Oh wow Second episode Then you start to learn Who supposedly This kid is And like Why It's not just important But bizarre That this kid is Who He's been claimed to be And it seemed like He was kind of the main focus And you start to introduce Just from the intro I gathered that The story was going to revolve Around gunman This boy The kind of Kooky scientist Medical doctor person And then like Another character that I'd yet to be introduced to But now that I think about it It's mild spoiler questions I dropped off on the episode Where they revealed The cool spider girl And the young boy Better you say The young boy Took over A gun dude's body Which was like That was honestly The thing that kept me going Was I did enjoy The protagonist That's That's only like episode three Or something Yeah, no, no, no I dropped off three Yeah, yeah, yeah I was using I was using What am I talking about I was at Ten, I believe Okay So pretty much Without spoiling it Other people from the war Sure You know A political figure Right And he's like Hey Gunman's like Yo, they're out here Taking down extended I'm gonna protect you He was just coming to Warn him Or whatever So then That whole situation happens I won't really say what happened So, but after that Then they start Just more Like Case of the week Oh, interesting But They like Hint at more people Being involved And I'm like Here's my thing And I'll just wrap this up So we can move on If it had More action And it was cooler Wow So it can't like It can't be Like noir and drama and detective And not Like every now and then It's gotta have It'll be Space battles It'll be something cool It'll be something slick Even with like Dynamic It's got ups and downs I realize the thing now What knocked me off of it Was As I said The enemy was just fine enough And I realized All it took was one Kind of okay episode For it to knock me off To me The protagonist was the rock That was holding me there And then the whole third episode This young boy Takes control Of a protagonist And I I really hate him And obviously he has His character arc is just starting He has a long way to go But I was just so Frustrated with him The whole episode That I just I wasn't really into it But even later The main character He gets He does the cool thing Where it's like He's a special extended He's got secret powers And all those other stuff And that's cool When it When it turns off of him The boy comes back Like come on man Just show me the gun guy Like But yeah Maybe you guys will still Enjoy at home Feel free to check it out Enjoying it Stay tuned for spring this year Cause second season Wow Oh awesome Maybe it picks up So if y'all feel like Finishing it And can tell us Why they got a second season Um And you also Watched Something else What you're saying You watch We're watching some Cells at work Yeah A quick hit That's such an interesting Looking show About a while ago Did you Did you watch in English Or in Japanese I watched it in English Yeah cause I saw a snippet of it And they were saying Like the microdermafusion Blah blah blah Etc. Etc. All these other Science technical medical terms Etc. I'm like I don't think I could watch Some Japanese My problem with I feel like Man I'm missing out By not knowing the language Because even though It's dubbed in English There's a lot of text On screen Yeah Which I Um Here's the thing It's goofy Okay It is It is goofy But it's Also super annoying Oh It's like It's one of those Animations I was like Okay I see where this is going I thought it was going to be It feels like comedy And then Yeah Obviously like Everything is like You know Exaggerated Based on the body And stuff like that But I guess My only comparison Is like an osmosis Jones Yeah It's essentially anime osmosis Jones About the relationship Between a red blood cell And a white blood Minus a storyline Yes That's where I kind of Like Like Singular life It's It's almost like Some of the best Educational Programming I've seen It goes back to What we were talking about I think Last week Last week It means I feel like More I think it does A better job Like All these You know cells And part of the body Are personified Like Thank you The platelets Are like adorable Little kindergarteners That come And like help prepare And all this stuff Like It's such a great job Of making me Want to know About these Aspects of the human body As opposed to Having like A storyline Not to dunk on On Uh No Not osmosis Jones Magic school bus And while we're on this adventure We're going to learn about this In this show Arnold should have fucking died Should have fucking died in Pluto Um But in this show In this show The That child should be dead That child should be dead You leasers should have her You leasers should be in jail But Rather than Adventure With education The education Is the adventure And in that regard I do think It is very much I feel like What Americans want Out of that like Culture Touching That culture where it's like Oh We want to see that Blood cell Uh Care Like personified We want to see Oh like Oh yeah The white blood cell would do that Yeah No it's cool I think maybe the first episode Just came in Be fast It was a lot of It's a lot of taking If you're going in with the expectation Of a storyline That's not what You're going to get from this It's much more the comedy Of how your body Works You know what I just fucking realized I think this is the closest thing An anime has come to What I would imagine a Pixar adaptation Of a human body storyline Would look like Like Pixar Pixar does a great job Of personifying emotions Inside out Like Pixar's That's a good way to explain that Pixar's like Formula is the Secret life of blank Yeah Like what happens if Gatorade has feelings Like What happens if your body Has feelings I think I'm going to stick with it I'm going to give it a Good old four episode Shot It was fine I enjoyed it Didn't finish it But I still liked it It's not one of those shows That I think you're going to One season, two seasons in on it One season I think there's Probably another season That's going to come Because it was pretty successful There's also a spin-off Darker version of the Manga That's like What if What's the story of The body of somebody Who smokes cigarettes It's like How are all of the characters In the body That's interesting And it's like Violent battle Like That's cool Yeah, let's see Because anime ain't afraid To just do shit like that I feel like Like we're just now Starting to see Liberties with The characters that they have Like with the new Harley Quinn Animated show I can't believe there's a show That has Superman And Lois Lane And in the same show People are getting Decapitated and saying Ah fuck Like eat my dick I want to say something The West is just now Starting to catch up To that fucking Freedom of the East I want to say something Interesting So I think My anime I watched The gun anime I watched The cells that work Anime And I watched This one you guys told me And I kind of realized Personally I think it's starting to Change again Interesting I think I want more Stakes Like higher stakes I can't get into Like higher stakes Or just like You know I can't really Get into the cells that work Because it's goofy And it's like I don't feel there's Any stakes there Right They're trying to teach us So nothing's really gonna Yeah I feel like No one could possibly Die I feel like I always need to balance it out Like I need to watch Something with high stakes Something heavy Then when I'm like I can go to something Like cells that work Or I can go to a slice of life Here it is They're more cute And like The stakes are much lower Because For me if like The stakes are always raising Sure Then the next time I go Watch one it's like Well the stakes in this show Were higher You're not getting My heart pumping as hard I think my current Mow right now is Stakes And you have to know You're in danger Well Have we talked about I can make a kill Dorian Yeah I've watched it Okay You're about to So Talk about educational entertainment Hopefully there will be more Higher stakes in this new season Of anime Which I think we're going to Start talking about now So Alright We're going to kick it off With something I think Could be an interesting conversation Because Chris Is a new baby anime fan for us Oh This is baby side of the table This is a baby side of the table This is a baby side of the table Kiss table I'm a casual So it's okay Come on outside Alright And so Chris was explaining to me earlier All the shows he was Excited to see Oh yeah And so we were going through We go to my anime list Go to Annie chart Look up what's coming up this season And we're like Oh this looks cool What about this And We landed on a show called Darwin's Game Which is the first episode of Cell Before I really fully grasped It Or before we talk about it I should say My initial impression of it Was that it was going to be Kind of in the realm of Like an honorary And that was what I talked to you about Kind of quickly corrected that We talked about it last year I believe So Darwin's Game Is definitely not that It's very much more Should we dive right in It's a battle anime It's like Battle Royale Give us the elevator pitch It is People download an app And the app tells you To fight each other And kill each other And it happens all As you're not getting teleported To another fantastical world You're not getting dropped On an island It's essentially Twitter And a few more decades It's Battle Royale meets Twitter I like this Why Who's The people who sign up So effectively as you play the game You get these points And if you get these points You can buy these things And you can kill people Et cetera et cetera If you get a certain amount of points They'll mail you a gun And now you have an advantage Or a fine You buy stuff in the game It's like the purge And it's like a leader system There's like a So this is just part of their world It's our world And there's a secret underground It's like Fight Club exactly Nice Okay cool cool That sounds awesome Yeah I agree It sounds awesome But you know what it doesn't sound It also doesn't sound awesome Literally It doesn't have like that Netflix Your sound engineering and design Is showing what has happened Does it have like that general Netflix Sound design No not even Oh Bar's way lower I have a theory I have a theory Cole and I were talking about it Because the audio director is like Highly reputable He's worked on a lot of amazing things Including you know RE0 Which season 2 is coming out So maybe he and his team Are just focusing on some of the bigger Bigger things in the world But Okay so I'll start off with my technical Right down So the show in and of itself Was really disappointing to me because Sound wise It was as if they went to No offense to my editor friends To an editor and were like Hey editor Give us a bunch of temporary sound effects And then it never went to anyone else after Yeah yeah yeah It went from there out And I'm not talking about like I have a pretty high bar For like Like a threshold bar Where I'm like This doesn't sound good But I can appreciate it Like there are anime out there That just they're okay They sound fine But then there are things out there That just like sound Off Or wrong And to greater expand upon your example Like temp sound effects that editorial Tends to lay in like The idea is not that Not just that it would be final sound It's literally almost more often than not Just to be a placeholder To tell an anime Or like this clang Needs to be when the door shuts To help for timing It's to help us with pacing It's more of just a signal Like something that will elicit change Or convey information And then that gets passed off to audio And audio make it sound sex Well they just give it to us And we take all the sound effects out And we say okay this is what they wanted to hear This is an idea of the thing Yeah yeah Hey it's a dog bark But it's like Every sword hit will probably use The exact same sound Precisely So it's an indicator Yeah So an example you set a clang At one point One of the antagonists If you will And that's one of the enemies Picks up a knife off the ground And it sounds like he's clanging pots and pans As he's picking it up I kid you not It sounds like he's banging on like an anvil Which was really really bizarre to me Because it's just It's rough You could even lean into the trope Of like Every time you see the knife You hear shing You could have done that And it probably would have still been better But throughout the whole thing It was just a lot of instances where Where it was really disappointing to me And I can't I have a hard time watching things When they sound bad Me too Sure It's your entire life That's like that And it's 50% of the experience Right Yeah So yeah My threshold is typically fairly high For this one It definitely overstepped it Which you know I'm sad about because As a premise I was like excited for this anime So to add insult to injury Uh oh So I'm watching the anime And Cole and I Funny enough We both were on the opposite side Before watching it Like I was interested And he was less interested I thought it was gonna be dog shit Because he talked about Oh God There was a preview show A couple of seasons ago King's Game that came out And I put the correlation Or Darwin's Game King's Game King's Game is like In the realm of school days For me It's like dog shit anime That no one should ever touch Oh God It's not worth Harsh I watched all of it Just to make sure to the end That I was actually Confident with those opinions Okay Wow Fuck those shows Whoa So The idea Of this mobile app That's effectively like Future Or Current age Fight club Where you get to like Oh you know me and Miles Are gonna fight to the death Etc. Etc. That sounds so fucking cool Right sounds cool But it's not cool When your protagonist Is a Utter complete Fucking dunce Oh man I hate to Don't Protagonist It's like one of those things Where it's like So the show opens up With this one guy And he's running Cause he's in the game He's running away from this panda Character Outfit And Okay so let me Give you a quick setup So when you're in this game When you sign up to be in the game This hallucination Of the snake Comes out of that Of the phone And bites you in it And codes you With some kind of special power Cool Everybody has a special power That plays this game You can figure out what it is So So this panda guy He can basically Turn himself invisible That's his special power So dude's running Running Running And he's like Oh shit I need to call The police And he says Hey I need help He sends an invite To play the game Is basically what he sends Okay So Dude dies Panda fucking Cuts his head off And you hear a waterfall Sound coming from his neck Which is really bizarre It's fucking weird And And so The next day Kids sitting in class And they're like Hey have you seen So-and-so He's like no You know But he sent me this Message to play This free to play game And the guy's like Oh no He says don't open the game Whatever you do And he's like Oh but it's free to play Boop And he's like Why have you done this It's like Oh I'm just gonna keep clicking things It's like What the fuck are you doing So he's being this More I think he does Like he clicks into the game And then he joins the game Or whatever It's almost convenient IDSE to get the story going Well it's like Moving at the speed of plot I'm giving you I'm giving you this Dumbass character So that he can keep moving Man I said I was Gonna be tactful about this But I definitely Let my anger show Well you said something On here today About this show Which is It was probably the first time That you realized Which that's the other thing It's not a bad anime I'm sorry Chris It's not a bad anime So first off Chris said The bar for anime Is so much lower It's the first time That Chris realized He watched something That in his opinion Was a bad anime This is my first time Like I've watched And like I was like Recalling a lot of the anime That I've seen That like I didn't like Like I didn't like Drifters But I didn't know If it was bad See So like I get it And like for me Like I never really experienced What I would consider Like bad And for me I think Unfortunately I would disagree I don't think it's good I would disagree with you Only because I think The sound put me over the top Yes Well that's also Which we brought up Like being an editor I'm used about Bad sound effects So I have a much So I like My threshold for hearing Bad sound effects is Much higher So let me I'll just really Quickly hit the rest of this So in this whole First episode Yeah but we got We got I'm really quick about it We need to start getting to the next Okay really quick about it So dudes and idiot throughout The whole thing He has the Mightiest of all superpowers That he was bitten with So now he's like The biggest best Best class Idiot with a big gun Yeah And at the very end of it He He gets the girl He gets the girl And I mean he wakes up The next morning And she's naked And she's like How can I Be to your service What can I do for you See I would like that Because I do like I don't Not this guy I don't deserve it I don't deserve it Y'all watching it It's on Funimation It'll be interesting Y'all watching it In giving your take I don't think it's good Maybe we can talk more about it In the post-show Perhaps But that brought up a good point And we're going to start To have to pick an up pace But what was the first Bad anime You ever watched That's for me Darwin's game for me Freezing Freezing Yeah I got tricked That's a hard Beat and switch Boy I don't know Funnily enough Because I feel as though There's anime that I don't like And there's anime that I thought was bad Yeah Because the first show that I like got pitched to me That like People like I think you'll really dig this That I hated was fairy tale I hated it really I did not like fairy tale I thought all the characters Were insufferable And I just didn't care For it Good until later But But I don't think it's a bad anime Clearly it's not Because it's overwhelming success I think it's just my personal taste As to where I was At the time it was shown to me I think Just to keep it short Honestly The first like Oh this is bad Was the one that we watched Assassin's pride Really I did not think that was good Because most Because I don't watch a ton of anime Most anime that I consume Is recommended to be By friends who do watch Quite a bit of it What to go for I'm glad you didn't say roka Because I felt like that was the Mystery one That we watched Oh no That one again Not good Not like horrible The ending was fucking stupid But that's just My opinion Cowgirl There was Real quick There was one that you mentioned Before our show I'll make that kill I think that's a bad anime We're gonna have words We're gonna have words You are not gonna have words For the fists We're gonna fly across the table No no no please don't beat me up I'm small Dude It sucks Well do we want Do we want to Well we have Yes And we have a very positive Yeah Positive I don't have as much time To go into it I have a couple of recommendations For stuff people should watch If you like Psycho Pass Go watch It Invaded Okay It is The legally distinguishable Version of Psycho Pass They just changed one character No okay One character One background I love Psycho Pass It is People solving crimes By using people's intent to murder Gotcha And the only people who are able To sense that intent to murder Are murderers themselves And devices that allow you To read the murder in the air Got it What else You like Psycho Pass? I need Madoka got me excited midway through But it was a little boring The new Madoka Yeah I'm hoping it gets exciting But I think the show that We wanted to talk about And we'll probably be talking about For the rest of this episode Is Keep your hands off the Iso-ken Iso-ken ni wa te wo dasonea Quick elevator pitch I think we've talked about it before But for those maybe just now Hearing about it Elevator pitch it is For those of you who watch Shirobako It is the opening up Shirobako at the donut club But instead the characters Are Ed Ednetti It is a High school club That's such a Holy fucking shit hole Oh my god So yeah High school Ed Ednetti But girls That all just want to make anime Oh my god that just changed That changed everything for me So it's funny too I I did not know that the main Girl was a girl Until the end of the episode When we were talking last week I was like talking about Just the tall girl Tall girl's best Kanamori Kanamori's best girl And I was sitting here Just talking about her Being the only I didn't realize that Asakusa It was It was a girl It's awesome And she's fucking awesome She's an awesome character All great I think I believe the creator was saying That they wanted To give the feel Like all the characters Have a feel of Non-binary Like androgyny Yeah Like they wanted to be a story That can be told to everyone But also still It was Definitely I mean yeah like At no point so far does like The gender Or anything about these characters Have an impact It's their backgrounds And what drives them Which is great Like one's rich And is obsessed with Character art One's Kind of a dork like Spaz That's interested in Concept and environment art And then one is a tall Gloomy con artist Yeah Just wants to make money Dude I I'm sure we'll make a great producer It's so funny cause I thought Yeah Absolutely I thought for sure Like I wasn't going to like Her character Kanamori because Because she's just kind of like Like I'm like Worried about her as a character But as soon as you said Ed Ednetti I'm like She's constantly talking like this Oh She constantly has her up a row Oh I know She Sol Like She wants to just make money Yes But she is finding ways To make money by making people happy She's a She's a business woman Yeah Like at the very Her introduction is Talking about how Like hey I ran this errand For you to get you milk I'm keeping your change though As a transaction And delivery fee I can You know We can make another deal If you want And like the other kids Just like I just want fucking milk Yeah She's totally a producer I didn't even think about it I like that What I think I think you're the one That brought it up Is interesting Is the character design Is fantastic Oh yeah They do not look Like your standard Copy-paste Anime schoolgirl They look So unique And have so many Identifying characteristics That tell you so much About them As people Like I think The most Anime schoolgirl Looking one out of all of them Is like the rich girl They'd be friend Who is supposed to be The pretty perfect girl And that's like How all anime girls Is really well With who she is As an individual And Beyond just the character art What I think This show has done Really fascinatingly And I know you'll want To talk about this Is the show Kind of exists In two planes of existence The real world And what these kids see When they let their imagination Go wild And they start brainstorming Ideas for a ship What is this ship What is its purpose What is the world That the ships exists in So that it would need To exist What are all the features The ship needs Yes And they're transported When they get into this Just like frenzy Of a brainstorming session They're suddenly in the world And everything is done Everything almost looks like A sketch, animatic, rough draft Just like not even mood piece Because it's lacking Like lighting and color It's just the sketch It's the rough sketch Of what they see And those Even when it transitions Every now and then Into a 3D environment They are using that sketch As the texture on The 3D model of the setting And it just feels great But what I'm going to let Chris Talk about Is what seals the deal And when I heard this My heart fucking left So it's exactly what you're saying It's being a kid It's your imagination running wild It's picturing yourself In this jet Flying through the sky And what do you do That's exactly what it was They did such a delicate balance Of both real sound effects And mouth sounds For this whole thing Studio Ghibli did a wonderful movie Called The Wind Rises Which was the first time I'd ever seen A movie use mouth sounds In such a way And so seeing this It made my heart I was just smiling Like an idiot the whole time And the worst thing for me Is that I feel like I have to go back And rewatch the entire first episode Because I missed Almost all the dialogue Because my eyes were so peeled Like glued to everything Actually happening I was just so I was smiling I was tearing up I was excited What did you guys think? Absolutely loved it This is A new anime from Masaki Yuka The guy who directed Devilman Crybaby I just don't need to watch that He's done a bunch of Like the Tommy Galaxy Night is long Walk on girl He's like brilliant Wow, I didn't see Devilman For myself It's funny that you said He's the same guy Who did Devilman Crybaby Because I like that way more than this You are not as big on this There's no stakes You said that you were going to Yeah That's what it kind of wanted to do Maybe you need to put a pause And come back to it Probably Because I feel like it's So and I felt weird about it I was like man This is kind of like everything That I like Has cool animation It's you know Obviously when they go through their mind They do all the imagination stuff It's crazy cool action It looks dope But I was just like Not feeling it Like I just did not feel like Listening to this kid These kids ramble on About the process And animation and stuff like that And that could be Because of the watching The anime mode I'm in right now Yeah So maybe I'll let it rock For a few episodes Pick it back up But I freaking love Devilman Crybaby Because like That was stakes Like you could It was Sounds like you're looking for some darkness Like dark anime in your life You look for You want some conflict And right now this very much seems That Check out that It invaded Tell me what you think I guess everything I did mention today Doesn't have conflict Yeah So does that work You're legitimately It sounds like you're looking for All those like dark scary anime That just has death flags everywhere Yeah Cole, how are we doing on time right now? Because I think there's two things That we could potentially talk about With this show And I don't know which one We should save for Potentially the post show What are the two things? There's something I want to talk about Just more on a technical level Of like what this show is What I liked about it And what I am kind of Concerned Interested in moving forward Just from like The show And the other one is A very Interesting philosophical point That the show makes In its first few minutes Which is it opens with Our lead character When she's younger Her mom leaves her at home To watch Just watch anime While she runs some errands Which I thought Something bad was about to happen I did too They made a big deal about it Like oh no This is anime Mom's gonna die I was hoping something I thought a monster Was gonna reach in And this could get it And this is more to the Dammit Earlier I have some theories About where things might go Because they did Really go out of the way To talk about how Big of a storm there was That night And we haven't really Come back on anything To do with that character's Family or what's going on Interesting The point The statement that is made Is this young girl is watching Anime And she says It was the first time I realized That someone made this thing That I loved And that immediately Grabbed my heart And did not let go Until the end of the episode And that's just something That I think could be Interesting to talk about Which is the first time You had that sort of moment Which it may not Necessarily be for an anime But I wasn't sure if we Want to talk about now Maybe in the post-show You want to do that now? Let's do a post-show Let's do a bit more Deep diving into the Content of the show But I think like this Yeah, like What was the first time Y'all realized something was Made by a person For me, I was I must have been Tenor When did Star Wars Attack of the Clones come out? It's not that movie 2000 and like I guess I should ask When this came out Early 2000 She doesn't want to believe 3000 Okay, so I was 13 The show you're going to talk about The first time I really Actually like thought about So yeah Spoiler alert So Gendi Tartakovsky's Star Wars The Clone Wars Animated miniseries My bad I You're fine So I Gendi Tartakovsky Is one of my fucking heroes He was probably the first Director That I as a Child was like Oh Him I like everything He makes At least I did When I was younger I have mixed feelings About Hotel Transylvania Which I think Is a tremendous Financial success And I understand why Like he has so many other Dream projects And getting that I'm not going to get into that Right now What got me was It was the first time I'd seen Star Wars Represented in a different way But was still Something that I Recognized I recognized Tartakovsky's Teams art style From Dexter's lab From you know Samurai Jack And I was like You know there's a Jedi Walking around that has The perfectly square Angular jaw It looks like Fucking I always thought that Samurai Jack looked like Badass Professor Utonium's ancestor Oh my god Wait Wait No No No No Tartakovsky Okay I'm getting Something confused I'm getting my Wires crossed now Jesus Christ My entire life Who am I thinking of right now Why is Craig McCracken For a while What did Craig McCracken do I'm thinking of Craig McCracken No Craig McCracken Was the program director Or program creator For Powerpuff Girls Okay Maybe it was Anyways Because It was A style that I recognized That I had seen before And it was A property that I was familiar with Star Wars And these two things Had meshed I was like Oh Like someone had Going to work on Star Wars Which in my mind Up until then Was always a live action thing Sure And this is what it looks like Because of the people That were chosen to work on it And I thought that Was the coolest fucking shit And then was like I couldn't stop thinking about Like what it must have been Like to work on that show Nice It was the first time That really hit me Yeah man How old were you then I must have been Like I guess 13 I never I consumed a lot Without thinking much about it When I was young Same I still do that Yeah Um Mine's gonna be a little weird Um It's every Those moments when I'm like Oh man dude Someone made this And it's crazy And I can't I like who are you Like who made these decisions It's whenever I won There's a few things I have to align Super Dope Like fun Action Uh Coupled with The greatest Insert song You could have found Oh man Where are we going with this And then lastly Just like Super cool art That I couldn't even imagine Like an alien made this Okay Like this is beyond Human ability Like who did that That all sounds radish And putting it all together I'm like trying to figure this out In my head So a few examples Is like Like I've said it before Cause I don't know You know But these guys know Killer kill is my Number one favorite Oh yeah And it has Every single last One of those things That's awesome One punch map One single last One of those things Yeah Like video games Like Final Fantasy More often than not Has every single one of those Devil May Cry Devil May Cry I love Nero He does love Devil May Cry People People Shout out my boy Nero And I was like That's the perfect He's caring And he's cool And he's like slick So what was the first one That made you go Fuck someone made this Killer kill Killer kill That was the first time You thought about it Yeah Like you watched a lot of shit When you were young But you didn't really think about it Yeah So I really So went Don't lose your way That came on I was like damn That is a moment Somebody made these decisions So I'm like Made these decisions And that So after that came One punch map And then I started I was like Man This is For me That's funny Not for you When did you When did you Cause I I watched those two Actually right back to back to Cause Jam Before that That was all new Like a whole new opening For me with anime Cause it was just So different In its style And how it carried itself But compared to the things That I had watched Previous to that So when did you When did you watch those Like when killer kill First came out 2014 It was 13 September 2014 Wow 2014 Yeah Cause I remember We were already working on Yeah And it's Just one of those things Where like I watched anime And I feel like I watched it And I never found my like What is my anime Like what's my style Like I love G Gundam I even love some of the more Knee stuff Like Guilty Crown And stuff like that But what's my anime Like what's made for me Sure And when that came out I was like Which killer kill is the most Video game anime Oh dude But it's still carrying And it still has a heart But it has stakes Like it does There's no stakes You said it doesn't have Stakes No no I'm saying There's no stakes And mine is also kind of Like Does it have to be anime No I've got a video game We skip it over to Chris We'll come back to you You go first We're ping pong Ping pong That's my turn So I I was a wee lad And I Was thoroughly A big fan of The Hit Mid 90s Wonderful movie Jurassic Park And this struck me Because like It's the opposite I feel like I was like Oh wow that's kind of Like you're a lot older When you like Been way younger than you Yeah we did Holy shit the first one Yeah the first movie Well you gotta think about it right So Jurassic Park I think it came out like 96 I think it's 94 96 Okay yeah That sounds about right It's in that realm 7 I may have made a face for I was a wee baby I was right 93 93 Okay So I was 5 when that came out I probably didn't see it For a couple years Until after that Because I was still watching A bunch of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Which was amazing Interesting to me Because of the fact that Up until this point I had never seen anything Like this That felt so Real And so like Visceral Like oh my god There's this theme park Where these things might exist Simply because of just the The way that they handled themselves With regards to like Not going over the top With like any CGI Really Very Very minimal It was all grounded in like Super careful To blend practical And CG And it hold Dude it holds up To this day It does fucking Ridiculous It holds up It's gonna be practical Just watch Tremors Again this weekend We fucking rule It's been years That's anime Anyways So you know I didn't really think about it Too deeply Until more recently But like You know The sounds for these dinosaurs Right That didn't exist Who knew what that sounded like And Gary Ryderstrom Was like I know what they sound like Or at least I have an idea Because I'm gonna make them Sound like a thing So he recorded all these different sources To create what we know now As dinosaurs And you know it had been done Many a year prior When we were working on Like the early Godzilla's And like A lot of those older like Dinosaur acclimation movies It was like Tiger Roars Exactly Is exactly what it was Yeah Whereas T-Rex is like A fucking Train gate Opening Terrible low Scraping Fucking All sorts of stuff It's perfect Is what it is What does Godzilla sound What makes that He has I hear a dolphin That's the sound Do you know what it What makes it No I don't Chris No okay so I don't have the exact answer Because I don't think I've been Why are you here I don't know Why are any of us here You can't answer my Godzilla question I had to use I had to use I used Eric Adol Which is the sound designer Who worked in the most recent Godzilla movies His sound design For the recent Godzilla I used his Like breakdown as inspiration for Shin Godzilla American Godzilla American Godzilla And His Godzilla's Fucking gnarly sound But I used that as my Inspiration for the kaiju The leviathan We had last season And I used a ton of stuff I used like Scraping like cabinetry I used like I had the sound of like Someone taking their finger On the top of like a tom Like drum And just like This is Fucking awesome Yeah It is made Godzilla's roar Is rubbing pine tar resin coated Glove along the string of a Contra base And then slowly And then slowing down the playback That's right That's a fuck yeah Gotta love Godzilla Jurassic Park Jurassic Park, that's me I love that movie Cole, fuck I love it Finish us out of here Might have two Kind of weird ones It was a combination Of the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Movie and Wow The behind the scenes Of the Backstreet Boys music video We're not talking about Ivan Ooze, are we? Yeah, Ivan Ooze Ivan Ooze baby I did not expect that second one Off the first one Like because I bought Like I was super into Backstreet Boys So like we bought VHSs And like Watched it and it was an entire one Of all of them like Well here's what we wanted to do I was like Oh You aren't actually a werewolf? You aren't actually a Frankenstein Monster? Interesting I thought It made you aware of the fact That decisions were made Decisions were made To the story that they tell And then like I started getting into BTSs And I watched the BTS for the Power Rangers And it was like Oh Okay so this is There's improv Like people can They wing it People decided multiple times What to say Interesting So That's cool That's awesome I just remember My soul I don't know why this memory Sticks with me so much From the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers movie But they have a fight Early on in like the first act Of that film Where I think it's the Pink Ranger trip Someone and says Has a nice trip Yes And I was just like Miles Miles Like Oh did you hear what she said? Because he Oh I kid you not Yeah When you said the one thing You remembered from that movie I immediately was like Having a nice trip to the next fold It was that And then in the horrible Horrible film Mortal Kombat Annihilation Jax blows up Syrax And says Ah Bobacute his ass And I was again just like Oh my fuck Because he was on fire Do you know Johnny Young Bosch Was the Black Ranger Just fucking killed me Oh my god Just fucking And so like So we're all kids zeroing out He's the kid And I'm over here like That was dumb Why did she say that mom? Get back to the karate I thought it was the coolest Thing ever I was like I'm gonna use that I'm gonna trip people and say I have a memory After seeing that movie With my parents Who loved it Be like Mom do you remember the part Cause I was I must have been I was like Oh you did the kid thing Where on the ride back From the movie You're like Hey do you remember the part Where this I remember my mom was like Homing her hair It was like the next day Cause we were staying at my aunt's house And we were like Getting ready to go And I just watched I was like Mom You remember that part When Jax said I barbecued his Butt And she was like Yeah And I was like Can't stop a video See you later Have a good day Have a nice trip See you next fall Snap Oh my god I tripped my mother God rest her soul Establish that power dynamic Right quick Well I think we're Now gonna Get ready to film Our first ever post show Hey y'all Cole here We Kind of jumped the gun A little bit this week And we're not quite Ready to have post shows Just yet But We don't want to leave you Hanging So what we're gonna do Is we're gonna Add the post show What would have been the post show This episode And Yeah You'll get it now We'll keep you informed As we Figure out What we're actually Gonna do with the post show Thank you so much for watching And Stay tuned and enjoy This is how we're gonna start it I'm sorry That wasn't good This is gonna do it This is the post show Wait let me see Let me try Let me give it I get three We all get three I don't want three Each is a son of a bitch Oh I see We're doing this so that We can start the post show I see Welcome to the post We go Fanservice first post show You were You were already You were so You were so And you can't You can't prove that wasn't the first time Yeah I totally only saw that once Totally We all did Don't super cut Don't edit Of all the film attempts It's the first It's the first ever Fanservice post show I was so impressed Where we are I would be too I would be too Where we talk about Some anime that we're watching A little more in depth This is our first time doing it This is our first post show Ever A few things today Yes Because we haven't officially decided On an anime that we all want to follow Every week But one anime that we did all watch this week We did tease it during the regular show Right Which hopefully you watched before this Is I can never remember the full title Keep your hands off Hands off the Isoken Which Isoken Translates to anime club Cool So As Cole so succinctly put it Ed and Nettie But girls Want to make an anime club That's such a good idea In your Japanese high school So It's so good No sentence pitch Loving Loving Everything about the character design I think the intro is super key With all of them doing their little dance Yeah It reminded me of Jamie Hewlett The guy who does all of the gorillas art The intro reminded me Of his style of like Art and animation I love the intro It was it Oh so I like that meets like Fully coolly Meets like Can't stand anime intros That show fights That are going to happen in the season Sure Yeah okay so I slowly In the casual watching anime career Have Went that path Cause I go Oh That's who's going to fight Cool I don't need to watch the rest of the season Cause I can just wait for those episodes to pop up Yeah But stuff like Kiz Naeva Where it was just like Oh here's a Two second silhouette of the character And you immediately know Who these characters are Yeah with just this Kaleidoscopic Imagery behind them Oh it's so good So we all gushed about this show In the proper Fanservice episode Especially about the cool like Imaginary world that they've gone into Yep Here is I have Do we want Curiosities and concerns Since it is a spoiler po-show Do we want to recap what happens in it Or are we just going to go Assume that people have watched it I think we should If this is the book club I think we should assume people have watched it Cool Yeah I think so But let us know in the comments If you think we should change that up If you guys need a recap For everything but For this episode we're going to assume That you guys have watched The show that we're going to talk about If not go watch it now Yeah or Yeah maybe Hit that Smash that pause button Smash that pause button For the first time We've been on long enough That I think the view counts Yeah that's good So um I have curiosities I don't know about Not concerns for the show in general But my viewing experience Of the show moving forward Okay sure Um Here I'm going to And I'm going to start with the latter I loved this episode I have Nothing is compelling me To watch another one I think that was a beautiful Standalone short story I think that was An incredible standalone Short story About three girls That all came together Through this love of creativity And desire to create something Or make money Through others creating something And at the end of this story They have become friends They run off And there's even like a cute little Wink in a nod With the fact that The rich girl Was so excited Ran off without her laundry Which was the entire reason They went to the laundromat In the first place I agree And it I would be 100% satisfied With this story as it is And I don't need to know anything That's because I can draw My own conclusions I agree That's so interesting Because for me The thing I was excited about Was seeing And this is just me Being very selfish Seeing where they go With getting more of the squad Like I can't wait for them To meet their Whoever else might join the team Oh you think that That team's gonna grow I think it's gonna grow I don't think it's gonna grow I don't think it's gonna grow I think it's I think it's Here's why I feel that way Right Is because I think it's Just gonna be like So I'll use another anime Because I love these enemies, like these super deconstructed, that's what I was kind of bummed out about me not really liking so as I work, because I really like over-exaggeration and deconstructions of like stuff. I like Dr. Stone because that reason, but Dr. Stone feels like an adventure. Whereas this is like, you know, it's talking about anime and animation and them being excited about it and created or whatever. I like, okay, I get it. I don't need- You're still looking for that conflict, am I right? Well, just like outside of that is like, I know what they're gonna talk about. See, I can watch, Dr. Stone does have conflict, but I'm more so looking forward to how he explains making this thing for society, or making this thing for society, which doesn't necessarily involve any conflict or anything like that. So I don't need that, even though I'm in a, I want conflict in a mode right now, I don't necessarily need that to push forward on the series. I know that this series is gonna be like, you know, animation, it's kind of like the one where, the one where they're making manga, or the one where they're making manga. Right, or the one where he's making calligraphy. Problem on. Like, I look forward to like, what's his next calligraphy adventure and stuff like that. But this is, this seems like it's living and it's hyper-expressing their creative journey from their point of view. But even then, the exciting thing to me there is just how many adventures that three girls can go on. Just by way of- I don't watch an adventure anime. I also think that what this is going to explore is creative differences. I think it's gonna start hitting on the, I could see there being arcs where it's like, hey, the producer, you guys have a deadline. If you guys want this thing to work, you have to finish point of point. When they have a compromise. It was so serendipitous that their art styles worked. Yeah. It's one time. What I'm hoping will happen. And you always, I think, have to be careful with what it is you're hoping a show will become and creating your own headcanon. Because then if you get, we've talked about this on the previous show. If you start to, if you get disappointed in the show just because it wasn't what you wanted, there's some versions of that where I think it's perfectly acceptable. And there's other versions where it's like, it's not that show's fault that it wasn't what you wanted. No, of course not. You can still dislike it, but that's not on the show. That's why I typically try not to watch too many trailers and try to drive my own thoughts before I see a thing because you want to experience it in a moment. There is a story conflict that I've been obsessed with pretty much almost since before I was working at Ruseeth that I still to this day, like I want to do a story about at some point, but this idea of can friends truly all get together and work together and survive what it is like being in a semi-working environment and still have those friendships intact by the end? I think because it is a difficult thing, not a difficult thing to do, but I think it's... I think you can come out as friends. I don't think you're the same friends who went into it. No, I was 100%. But it also depends on the challenges you have to overcome, right? Someone had mentioned Carolyn Tuesday, I think is when they have this anime, and it's basically these two characters who are going through and succeeding at all these things. They keep falling in love. The other thing is they also weren't friends before. But I guess they, yeah, sure. Oh, curious. But I'm more so just speaking in terms of like, if you have all of these successes, for every time they drew together and it always was perfect and they always came up with these cool adventures, then I could see it being a thing where they're not gonna ever challenge or there are no stakes. There's an anime that is very, it's about medium rare, creating called, it has a ridiculous name, The Pet Girl of Sakuroso. And it very much explores the, I mean, it's all about failure. It's like this kid is trying to become a game developer and he keeps submitting to these different publishers and early these contests and they're like, nah, sorry, you weren't good enough. And it's him living in a dorm with like a world-famous artist, a world-famous writer, like a world-famous, and he's just kind of like, oh, all these people. That's gotta be like defeating. Yeah, but it is also like pulling back and changing the scope of, well, they've been at this for a lot longer than you have. Yeah. So to jump back to a bit of theorizing as to why I'm kind of in yearbook calls, why I think this might be the sort of conflict that we can expect of creative differences and what happens when friends try to work on a project and end up butting heads with one another is other shows that have kind of come at this, Sherebako, and in a sense, Recreators, thank you, is you don't have to be friends with the people that you work with in the real world. Like that's sort of this like idealized like thing, even particularly for Rooster Teeth. It's like, everyone's best friends hang out all the time. No, we don't. Like some of us do. Like some of us hang out, but like, no, it's like it's a fucking job. And it's okay. And it's okay that you don't know who you are. You don't go to a job to like make your lifelong friends. You go to a job to do a job and be respectful and hopefully get along with one another, but like that's not a fucking requirement to like work on a project with other people. And I don't think that's necessarily expected in things like Sherebako and stuff like, Sherebako even gets into the fact that like, hey, you're gonna have to work with people that suck sometimes. And that's just part of the process by having the show taking place in a high school setting where friendship and that sort of communal like existence is it's much more important to you in your teenage years. That's where I am thinking this show can really get a big bang for its buck and exploring that like, hey, like it will become a job. And like, how is that going to affect you? And your relationship with your art as well as the people that you work with in creating that shared vision. I wonder if that's the case then because this definitely feels like a slice of life anime. It says adventure comedy school singing. Okay, so I mean, then that could very well be in the realm of possibility because if it was more a slice of life then I think it's gonna be all the positives of those things with some minor underlying negatives, right? But I'm so curious now because you've got my mind like going here on like what they could potentially do next with this show with the next episode. So because, yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, you get this full experience in one episode, right? And the episode, the kind of vibe that I got unlike Shirabako, which is another, we talked about it recently, of like shows that kind of educate. This show doesn't seem to be coming out the creation of like anime and art and storytelling from a necessarily like procedural educational. It is much more emotional and like the heart of it. And those are the things that you have to fight your hardest to protect over the course of working on a creative project, in my opinion. And I think it kind of, the educational part of this show is the you, if you wanna make something on a bigger scale you're gonna have to work with other people. Yeah. And like those other people might have the missing puzzle piece of what it's gonna take for you to elevate your artwork to the next level. That's why I think there's gonna be more. Literally for some of us, they're laying their artwork on top of one another and a new thing is made in that process. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's part of why I think there's gonna be more growth. There's gonna be more people that we meet. They may be all minor characters, might be sub characters. The only thing, and this is 100% projecting a storyline that could never happen. Them starting a new club. Okay. Oh, that definitely feels like it's gonna be a thing. But the whole thing with that is that sets up for story beats where what if a person threatens to leave. Most of anime clubs in shows, you have to have a minimum amount of members in order to still have a club. And the one girl's not allowed to be in an anime club, but according to her parents? Yeah. Maybe it turns into like they use the anime club at school and the show goes into like already talking about like the creative process between these kids, but also the creative process between like a both studio type of setting. I, to make a blind prediction again or like hope, I don't know, something that could be interesting that the show doesn't have to do, but I could see is you start off with, you know, everything's kind of going well. They're having to overcome some obstacles and hurdles together, then there starts to be breakdown among the team. Things start to get problematic. And then I think the thing that I am curious about is I feel as though this first episode did plant a lot of seeds for fucking tragic complicated backstories. Oh, yeah. I mean, why can't the rich girl, I forgot her name. Yeah, me too. There's familial issues going on at home. She can't join anime club. Her parents are going through some shit. Everybody knows her. Like there's tons of pressures, but also going back to something that we talked about in the episode is they make a really big point of the fact that there's like a big thunderstorm in like the cold open of this show. And like, I do think there could potentially be something. And again, this is a big shot in the dark, but to have a character that is obsessed with creating and living in worlds that aren't real, may be a form of escapism for this child that has a very dark and depressing home life. Because to me, that's how Asakusa and Misuzaki are bonding. Like they're talking about how, oh, you see the school. Do you ever set up like your own dungeons that have like traps and like. Did anyone else do that, by the way? Oh yeah. Also like the stick figure wars. We had two guys on either side. Like one pull out bazooka. The other one has a bazooka sword that deflects bazooka bullets. I get you. I know that's amazing. You know what it'd be cool? I love time skips in anime. Like when it happened in Gerelog, and I was like, whoa. I hate time skips. What? I love it. Cause it's like another like, okay, I get it. Your kids, you're going to save the day. But like, what is, what don't. So are you. The situation looks like that would be, this is another shot in the dark, but that would be cool if it went like through their whole career. That'd be wild. Like from beginning, we see them match together and match the two pictures. And then like at the end of this 13, 24 or whatever, they're running a department. They've battling industry stuff. And I don't know why I grabbed this pen. Yeah. Cause it's mightier in the sword. Like I like this. So we're kind of calling shots for this, for this first episode, we're not sure if we're going to follow this. We might have more structure going forward, but I like con, like I definitely think there's going to be some kind of arc of the two artists bonding and the other girl kind of feeling left out. Yeah. See, that's the thing that I'm, I'm really interested in too is right now our tall, a crafty girl is like an open book. And at the same time, extraordinarily, she's not reserved. As the audience, we don't know anything about her story. We get a lot of implied things from the other two artists, but like con girl, we have no idea what her deal is. And she's been portrayed as like a very comic relief, mastermind character. And a lot of times those can sometimes be the characters that have like the wildest stuff that they don't share for reasons. And I don't know, again, this is a whole lot of like guessing. I mean, her interacting with the kids can be her form of escape as well. Potentially. Yeah. Like she's like, I don't have the ability to do that stuff. So I've latched on to you guys. So there's a couple of anime that I've seen that do that. And I really like kind of that storyline of accepting that your friends will have friends that aren't, you guys don't have the same bonding thing. It's like, oh yeah, like, here's my anime friends. Here's my con friends. Here's my work friends. Here's my home friends. And it's like, it's okay if they don't all have the same interests. Right, exactly. We'll be dimensional. So yeah, I think I am definitely going to watch the second episode. I did find this extremely charming. But I'll see, we'll see how long that carries me through. Like I said, right now, there's not the strong pool, excuse me, to watch another episode. Cause I was, but it's just because I was so satisfied with the pilot as it's own self contains. Yeah. I mean, this is in no way shape or form like a knock on the show, but I'm probably not going to remember it over the weekend. Like when I'm like searching for something to watch. So I'll probably, and it's just like a creature habit. I'll probably search for something a little bit more familiar or something else. Sure. So are there other shows you guys are looking forward to watching over the course of the next few days? I don't know what's coming out. I want to jump back into Black Clover. There's a couple. Yeah, you have a couple. There's a cut. We'll see. Black Clover. Only because I'm just, I gotta see what's going to happen to this kid. Like it's, in my opinion, I don't know. It's not good anime. It's very, very tell. It's very, you know. Shonen, Shonen, Shonen. Yeah. But like I'm, I'm in it. I got sucked in like 60 episodes. So I'm like, There's that many already? There's like, I guess we, It's all right. For some reason Black Clover, I feel like I watched the pilots that show like six months ago. And I, You did? I must suck her. Because it was part of fan service. We watched it. Right. I almost suck her. Oh, there's 116 episodes right now. Yeah. I'm a sucker for the, I'm a sucker for the, no matter how bad it is, I'm a sucker for the tournament arcs. Yeah, you are. I got to see who's the secret strongest about the pop-up. Who's going to be Hakao? Like who's going to accept an arc. Sure. I know you do. Power friendship. We've been through that. All right. What are you stuck for? I don't know, baby. Stoked is a very. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Stoked is a very liberal term. Oh, okay. What are you interested in? Plunderer. Plunderer. Plunderer. Looks like we're talking about that. Kind of looks, people, it's apparently available in other places right now, like Canada and Japan. And people are kind of like, yeah, this is like going to be a fun trainwreck of a show. Trainwreck of a show. Oh, that's it. Post apocalyptic world. Okay. Let me just look at the poster we got. Let's see. Oops. I've seen her in the store. I've seen her in the store that. Holdin' a young child. They never realized that a show could be 90% thigh shots. Oh. Which I hate that. Super on more. 90% thigh shots? That's a very specific direction. Each human has their own number and count. And when your number reaches zero, you're supposed to die. You got a guy in police outfit. Yeah. And like this main character has a negative number. Oh. There is something about that that isn't. You got like Captain Guy, police outfit. That's like negative five, seven. You got Torn Cape. Her? No, yeah. Flip this around. Flip this around. Let me see what your world means to see this. It's like your basic B anime poster. There's like some, there's a lot of booby in that shot. Holy shit, that does look like a fucking parody of an anime poster. We can actually put up a trailer for this. Go ahead and put up a trailer for it. We won't be seeing the trailer. No, right. Like you will. Fucking military uniform saber. Yeah. You got the bag around the middle of the boobs. The Nazi in the background. Yeah. The bustier. You gotta have one of those. I can't have a man with that in the background. Kind of like a dark fire, embers. Did you say bustier? Oh my gosh. Oh, the Heya camp. The five minute shorts are out. Oh, that's the camping one. Camping. Then of course I'm going to talk about issues of the reviewers eventually when it starts airing. What are you just going to get? Did you talk about this one? Oh, yeah. Monster Girl brothels. Oh, that's the brothel. Monster Girl brothels. Oh, that's like a Korean wasn't here before. It's an anime for Cole. It is an anime about these adventurers who make a little bit of extra coin on the side by doing Yelp reviews for Monster Girl brothels. That's so specific. And like, it's like a human, an elf, an angel. They all get their tastes. They have a guest. It's like the elf is more concerned about like, the human's like, oh, look at the elf. She fine though. And the elf's like, yeah, but she's 500 and her mana sucks. And so then- I love that. Yeah. And then the human, the angel's like, I don't want any part of this, but he has to. She's 500 and her magic sucks. But then like the human's like, oh, that 58 year old human woman is nah. And the guy's like, what are you talking about? She's 58. Yeah. Think I love about 58 year olds is the older I get, the more they say the same. It tickles my soul. Yes. That's great. I read the manga this week. So I am so excited. I'm excited for it. I love stuff like that. I think it's safe to say, well, I'll be following my hero probably. Oh yeah, sure. Chris, that's right. I just started, okay. I'll get through it. You'll get through it faster than you think. I'm waiting. We're almost done with the best part. Yeah. The last few episodes though, entertaining and very cool. Don't worry, I'm not gonna get super spoily, but especially like the Lameleon episode was so choice. But now I feel like we've hit this weird loop of hero shows up to stop villain. Hero go pretty fucking balls to the wall. Villain look like villain gonna lose, but then villain do crazy thing. Oh no, hero gonna die. Hero B burst through wall to save. Next episode, hero B goes up against villain. Miles, you finally solved the shonen formula. I was gonna say, isn't that Dragon Ball Z? That's every shonen anime. Isn't that literally like, yeah. Here's my thing, because it was literally the same location, the same entrance of, oh no, this guy's about to die. We broke through the wall. Yeah, why anime another entrance? You got an entrance there. You know what? Come on in, the party's just starting. It's such a thing and my hero, even like when reading the manga, that was just the type of show it was. I thought it was like, it's very self aware of that. It's part of that show. Part of it. Like this is what we do. Because, so one punch man. We're trying to think back to all the fights right now. One punch man is a similar show, or even like World Trigger, where there's like multiple heroes and stuff like that, but it doesn't do it to that degree. Here's my thing. To where it's almost identical. Yes, the shonen thing of like, they showed up just in time to save the day like, yeah, I'll admit, yes, that's a thing. But there was something and it literally felt like one superhero went all out and then went, okay, tag out and then another superhero came in and was like, all right, now I'll do some work. That's every shonen anime. What about Dragon Ball Goku showing up to kill Frieza at the end every time? Every time. I've never really watched that. Well, so this is what I'm saying, like Miles is to the degree that Miles is describing, feels very unique to my hero. Because yeah, they do do that in other shonens, but not to this, it's almost identical, like copy paste, like if that's what the show is. You know, I think they're doing the same storyline for every character where it's like, hey, this is the strongest you are now. There's always people stronger than you and there's always people stronger than them. Cause I think, cause I feel like there's been a lot of, and maybe it's just because the fights leading up to this did feel varied because like Sun Eater's fight is not like that at all. Sun Eater fucking relies on himself and dominates three dudes and like, that was crazy. And then fucking Red Riot and Fat Gum, like there was more of a sort of like, We're now into the My Hero spoiler territory. I don't think he's gonna remember, I think we're fine. Yeah, Sun Eater dominates dudes. Exactly, yeah, that's all he's about. Like the Fat Gum Red Riot fight was fucking radish shit and there's like a huge transformation with Fat Gum after Red Riot. Like I just feel like, as I am thinking more about it, you are 100% right. There are a lot of times where hero's gonna lose and then other hero comes in to save the day at the last second, but there's just something like it felt as though Deku did that with Lameleon and then fucking, our favorite question, how are you watching this? Are you watching it week to week or bitching? I'm watching it week to week. But I'll give an example to where, you know what, we'll make it different. What's that? So your thing, after your thing, like eventually the hero prevails, right? Sometimes, there's been times in My Hero where shit gets wild. My Hero is like, the heroes are gonna win show. Like this is also, it has the illusion of things. We're starting to get to the end. I disagree 100%. You disagree 100%. We're getting to the point where the, in the manga, this is like the end of the beginning. Yes. This is like, hey, here's what the students are gonna deal with. Now the mantle's actually passed on and they're gonna have to start taking care of, this is that passing of the torch. Because like, yeah, a lot of the heroes, the pro heroes in this particular raid have been like, man, I thought I was the shit and these kids are making me look bad. Yeah. Which has been very fun. I think you're farther than me in the manga though. I could say things, I won't say them. Yeah. All of them say is, it was really frustrating for, Lumillian did all his work and then, I don't remember the bad guy's name, but the plague doctor dude, over her hall, essentially he went, reset, like reset the encounter. It feels like a weird, like grindy MMO. That's why I keep saying the show, it's the show. I disagree. We might have to do it. We might do, okay. Like one small example is like, in Dragon Ball, when they were fighting Boo, right? Gohan shows up. I hated that whole arc. Right, but like, it does the same thing, right? Another hero, they start off with Go-Things, gets washed. They show up with Gohan, right? He has the Kai powers now. You know, and he's like, wow, man, Gohan's really gonna beat him, this is it. Still loses, you know what I'm saying? So like, I think the difference is, is like the frequency in which they win when that happens. To me, I think here's, and I'll finally leave it at this. Sorry, sorry. I think, because I fell off Dragon Ball after the Namek arc, because that was the moment where I saw like, the gameplay loop. Yeah, for sure. We just get stronger? Yeah, yeah. The difference to me personally, for my hero, because there is this back and forth, like in Heroes of Parallel, because it's a heroic, like kid's hero. For sure. But I think the fact that Deku, Deku's strategy throughout the course of the show has like, sorry, microphone, like it's kind of gone all over the place. And yeah, there are moments where it's like, I just have to push through. Like that's absolutely a thing. That is 100% a Shonen thing. But like, as much as we make fun of it, the day Deku remembered he had legs was like kind of a cool change for his whole style. And like the way that he's having to control stuff, the fact that like characters have fucking scars, and scars is a huge theme for this show. Like, I feel as though they are characters are just learning to be stronger, but it's not just I'm gonna fucking scream louder, my hair is gonna get longer. It is like, I'm going to change my approach. I'm going to change the way I armor myself. I'm gonna change the way that I like communicate and like outwardly project how I'm feeling in a fight so as not to like show off that I'm terrified. Like it feels, I feel like these kids are learning and I'm actually watching them grow into something bigger as opposed to just saying, I'm hero level two now. And that to me is something that I've really appreciated about. All right, well, we have to start clearing set. We have another show. I guess that a lot to learn has to set up. So thank you so much for this first ever annual, not annual, post-show, annual, post-show. We're so much fun. I wanna talk more, my hero with you off camera, man. We're gonna have to, yeah. I have opinions about my hero. I know you do. The craziest is I like it, but I think. Ah! We'll get there another time. Thank you for watching. Thank you for being a first member. Oh, wow. Please share the main show with all of your friends, family, loved ones, hated ones. No, don't share it with them. No, do it, do it. Treat the enemies with love. If the enemy's taught me anything, it's the hated ones will be your friends eventually. We used to be bitter rivals. Yeah, we used to spit on each other. Yeah. I watched, I saw that. Not all on the middle. Bye. Ha ha ha ha ha. Gross. Sorry, my cast.