 cover this this little deal with regards to now myself and young Don and really just about anyone else that might want to pick a side I think I've been pretty clear as a matter of fact I know I've been pretty clear on what salvation is by the way we're gonna we're gonna talk about the foundation of salvation later on this evening as well so I would ask you to stay tuned for that I think it's very important matter of fact vitally important for us to get an understanding of what salvation is too many people hear something and run with it without investigating it now I'm gonna have this conversation I kind of wrestle with it because truth be told I didn't feel the need to have this conversation about this particular topic except for the fact I don't want it to seem as though that there is this issue this clash between me and young Don there really is not as a matter of fact I've stayed before even with people who are who I vehemently disagree with I don't have a clash with any of them I don't have an issue with them you need to understand I'm not necessarily moved emotionally because someone disagrees what had a lot plenty of people called me wolves and in the devil and this and that and so forth so I'm not bothered by that I really am not I think I can comport myself and handle the scriptures fairly well to where I can stand on what I believe and try to back it up what you're gonna see and I wanted to cover this I want to show how if you go back to the original video that I did concerning him young Don and Alan Parr I stated that there may not be that much disagreement after all maybe you need to flesh out what it is just saying what you're thinking I'll tell you why especially in this case someone like a young Don why I think that he came to the conclusion that he came to why he may still be there I don't have an issue with him was where so he told young brother if you hear me and yes I did call you young you are young there's nothing wrong with that someone older calling you young is not a put down as a matter of fact I wish they would call me young I wish I was still young can I give you all young folks and I mean young adults a piece of wisdom here's the wisdom embrace being young embrace it once you embrace where you are in life it'll be a lot easier for you when someone calls you young it's because you are that's not a put down it's just a statement of fact when someone call my my youngest daughter calls me old man what am I gonna say hey well I am it is what it is and I know what it is now there are certain things that are expected of us in our walk as believers if you're young you're expected not to be a young worldly person you're expected to be a young Christian person you're expected to give other young people a reason to see Christ they'll look at you and oftentimes they're gonna judge young Christian folk by looking at you something wrong with that at all as a matter of fact I wish when I was younger that I had as much one understanding but also them and vigor and determination now when I was when I was 20 I started off in ministry when I was 20 or 21 22 21 22 I forget been a minute as a matter of fact I still remember the very first day that I went out on the street witnessing it was July the 6th 1992 that was that that was the very first day that I hit the street sharing the gospel with any and everybody as a matter of fact can I give you all a quick little miraculous story I bought my friend's car you know you sometimes look at the car you can look at the gas gauge and see how much how many miles are left and this this little four tours was pretty accurate close to it at least and it said that I had about 12 miles worth of gas left well that was something to get to where I want to go to and then drive back and then maybe to the gas station hopefully I can find a few dollars when gas wasn't very high and as I was driving and I was driving to share the gospel I was sharing trying to go with a young lady who I thought was actually pretty cute too not the story the gas gauge started going up it went from 6 to 12 to 18 to 28 to 30 to 60 to 70 when I get back after now I'm out there sharing a gospel with a few different people I get back and my buddy time said you put in gas and card no he said well why is there he said not only does the does the deal say that there's 67 something worth of miles left it's close to the needle has gone up further I haven't done anything I haven't done now you all know me I'm not one of these guys that miracle and the Lord came down and put gas in the tank that's not me I'm just saying with what the deal said and now it could have been the needle was broken or what I don't know but my point is that I had a zeal to share the gospel what all that's familiar with or even really care too much about doctor which is a good thing for somebody like a young guy who's concerned about it at a young age I was not but let me say this you're gonna find out that some of our disagreements really on disagreement I don't disagree with a lot of what you said now I do disagree with some of the things you say and some of the points that you've made would have not I'll cover that but they really aren't that big deal because I understand this one thing that as long as the Lord stays the same does not come back and take any of us back and you can you got 10 20 30 40 50 years ahead of you I believe you are going to grow and develop that's what a young person does now you're gonna develop no matter what either for the good or for the bad but if you're a believer you should develop in a godly fashion I want to play a couple of clips to illustrate one how maybe we are probably saying the same thing and then two I am gonna I am gonna touch on your youth there's nothing wrong with that it's not a put down young folks stop thinking that when someone calls you young he's he's he's son in him he's put no he's not no he's not if I think in his case he's 28 he would be my third oldest child so that's not a it's not a put down guys it is it's just not as I mean I get to treat him like a child and I'm not treating like a child I'm treating like a grown man and I expect him to respond like a grown man I do think he's got some issues with some of his friends we'll talk about that in a little bit but I want to play a clip couple clip as a matter of fact and let's just see if if I said this or someone else had said the exact same thing would they be called someone who's kind of on the Lordship salvation side the heaven now when you go to heaven you will be judged on your good works that will determine your rewards see heaven is not the finish line heaven heaven is a starting line and I want to stop this as we go but heaven is not the heaven is the finish line heaven is our ultimate destination it's not the starting line right now the Bible says that if we believe which we all believe if we believe then guess what we have right now that same very light that will live in heaven we have it beginning now life into eternity we all agree with that but I'm not a stickler for that for that I'm not gonna make a big issue out of it I just want to make that part clear and based on how you lived your life here on earth it will determine your life for the rest of eternity think about that and so we should all be doing good works but your works don't mean anything if you're not saved and where have we heard that before I know I've said it thousand other Christians have said the same thing your works don't determine your salvation we should be doing works but they don't determine your salvation said it a billion times we're not talking about a works based salvation we're talking about a salvation based works big difference afterwards say what are we gonna do well the Bible tells us that we are going to have some works to show for it and you're not saved if you still believe that the reason you're going to heaven is because you've repented of your sins it's because you're trying to live a Christian life now I've said the same thing I've said the same thing now here's what and I'm kind of keeping an eye on the chats I see one particularly on what did you say I you think I'm jealous of Don cord respectfully I just heard of Don about a month ago I haven't changed my opinions about about the doctrine whatsoever it's a childish thing to say with all due respect young lady it really is say that I'm jealous of someone because I have a difference of opinion then are you jealous of me because you have a different opinion about me who would say that well I know who would say that someone young and I'm trying to get young people to not show their youth the Bible says this and let me let me just let me just put it on on the screen because I think it's I think it's vitally important he says to Paul I'm from Paul to Timothy he says let no one look down on your youthfulness but rather in speech conduct love faith purity show yourself an example to those who believe let's do that young people now the same thing to be held held or said about an older person because a person's older does not mean that we're supposed to just go off of what they say Benny Hinn is much older than I am that didn't mean I'm gonna listen to what he has to say he's proved himself to be a wolf of the highest category but the point is the point is I'm making my stance I'm making a statement I didn't go at I didn't I didn't attack young Don I'm not attacking young Don I love the young brother I really do so maybe sometimes that you know what I found out what I would help me a whole lot as I was really growing up as a matter of fact and older folks will tell you this now the funny thing is that when you talk to younger people they we tend not to listen to older people I listen I was I was in my teens before I was in my 20s before I was in my 30s before and you know what I what I thought at 20 thought I knew a whole lot thought I didn't couldn't tell me anything then when I got in my 30s oh I'm still young body still move well but I felt like I've gotten older and you couldn't tell me even more as I grew and mature and that's the issue maturing do you know what I learned to do more so not when I'm asked a question if you ask a question and people want to hear you say something that's different but when no one asks you you know what I've learned to do this very thing be quiet sometimes a response it necessary sometimes saying certain things and obviously I see people in the chassay say some things like okay well alright hopefully we can all be an example to each other and so the point of this is to show how close we are and you're gonna hear him say something that's like wait a second we have literally said just that if you think that's why you're going to heaven then you're not going to heaven you have to know you're going to heaven because Jesus Christ paid for your sins so if you don't know why you're going to heaven then you're not going you can believe have faith in Christ but then there's some some uncertainty you're kind of worried you're kind of wondering then that means you're not going to heaven wait a second I thought though we have to simply believe first well if I believe but now I'm just wondering I'm just worrying well that happens as a matter of fact we've got a book in the New Testament dedicated to people who are wondering who are concerned about their salvation who is that the book of Hebrews because their lineage their tradition their history tells them to so the point is the point is this guys if we say we believe well then fine I believe the issues two things one do you believe and believe in what and if what you believe in is that Christ who is the son of God who is God and flesh who died for our sins if you believe that that was a payment that God required for salvation the Bible says you shall be saved man the next question is did you actually believe what does mean by believe what what faith what does mean by faith and that's the issue make it very clear abundantly clear on this channel the difference between this this head knowledge in terms of faith who have this who have this what we call this mental ascension where they know it's true but they don't trust it with me I know this chair I use the same example over and over I know this chair can hold me but I trust it I demonstrated by sitting down that is my faith with me so let's go ahead and continue now I want to play up a part of a video clip that again when you listen to it tell me does that not sound like most people most of your understanding as it relates to salvation and how works work age I'm not implying that I changed because the Holy Spirit dwells inside me and did now by the way what this is this is a clip of him making a statement someone says wait a second you change it seems like you're kind of moving to the side a little bit and so I want to play this over he says no I'm not change and now he does make a pretty big error in one thing again not not destroying him because this but I want you all to understand why we have these these these these works coming out of us did a magical yeah of course I changed because the Bible tells us to change I'm not implying that I changed because the Holy Spirit dwells inside me and did a magical spell or whatever and and transform me I read my Bible and the Bible tells you how to live okay two things couple things first of all it's not the Holy Spirit some magical spelling you know the Holy Spirit is more than magical Holy Spirit is is exactly who moves you the Holy Spirit the Holy Spirit is just not some spirit just some some some Joe it's the Spirit of God who is in us who and I keep going I keep going back to this particular passage and it says what it says it's as straightforward as it gets I will put my spirit that's a Holy Spirit within you and cause you to walk in my take in my teachings my statue my ordinance depending upon your your your version and you will be careful to observe my ordinances so what's moving you is the Holy Spirit that's why that's where the work come from it's not it's not so much the reading because anyone can read the Bible and still not do or perform or behave in the way that God wants them to it is literally the Spirit that has changed us we've got a new disposition it's not these works that we do that make us save or keep us safe but as he's going to say I'm telling you and guess what he's gonna say the same thing that these works give some proof that we're saved no free gracer tells you not to do works no free gracer tells you not to obey God man it's so sad man it really is so sad anyway JD rocks whatever when a fiber says can you explain and by the way we all agree that one saved always a what keeps you safe well do you have to remain in him do you have to endure do you have to bear fruit well the Bible is clear on that too we know we don't disagree with that we we just believe that every single person who is a true believer will abide in him forever we'll follow him we'll keep believing we'll bear we'll bear fruit why because Jesus literally tells us that he literally tells us that that's how you that the issue is and I want you all to pay it into the to the study this evening the issue is not that we can temporarily believe it's this continual belief that is what's describing the Bible how the Bible describes an actual Christian just go back to it playing Hebrews 11 hell hath faith hell of faith hall of faith it seems to encourage faith through our work similar to James 2 at face value yeah I mean it probably does listen this is what people don't understand it's so frustrating it is incredibly frustrating nobody is telling you not to do works no one is telling you not to change your life no one is telling you not to to try and be more Christ like this is not what we preach in the free grace camp what we say is that these things do nothing in regards to your salvation you're we agree we agree so far we sound like your salvation is contingent on none of it when you want to think about ask yourself why am I saved you think of the cross and you think of Jesus on the cross and the fact that you believe that he's the Messiah that is what saves you but we are if you read the Bible it tells you how you're supposed to carry yourself as a Christian and guess what how am I going to display my faith to you without works how do how would I so he says how am I gonna display my faith to you without works that's what we've been saying there are people who call themselves Christians who are not Christian there are some people who call themselves Christians who are concerned about whether they are not those people who are concerned about whether they are Christian or not either they are or they're not how do they verify this well I do believe there are people who do believe in a mental ascent fashion but are not how do they know what I do that it's a stupid it's a stupid out concept is a stupid question how can I show you something that is invisible my faith is immaterial it is invisible it is in my mind it is in my heart it's it's it's not something I can pull out and show you look this is my faith right here can you you can tell by the cross on it that I believe in Jesus you can't that's not how it works the only way I can show you it's just like how do I show someone I love them how do I show someone I love them it's not what we've been saying this is literally and I think what happens is the more you have time to grow and this is what I would say this also one I would not latch on to a particular doctrinal stance that I'm of this I'm of that I'm a Calvinist I'm an Armenian I'm a provisionist I'm at this I would not do that because you behold you now behold into these set of views and they must be perfect or else if they're wrong you're gonna find yourself trying to defend a wrong or erroneous aspect of it because this is who I am that I'm part of this club I'm part of this group with Paul says that's that's that's being carnal that is a sin guys if you say I'm this you're not you're not supposed to be I'm this are you with me I can't I can't be on my works that's it and so the Bible tells you of course that that is the only way you can display your faith right and you know it is necessary to display your faith in multiple contexts and I agree but that kind of seems like you're going against what you said now wouldn't say this I he says that dying is a false teacher point blank no one say that first of all dying is not a teacher and if he is you ought to be careful he's trying to be teaching you ought to be careful because let let not many of us be teachers there is a stricter kind of nation he's now let's just say this he is in mind if you're listening entirely too young in the faith to be teaching anything entirely too young there's a long way to go does he have a decent grasp of it he does are there some things that he that he's gonna grow in and mature and sure even in the way he displays these things without without question without question and so let me just do this sweetheart we're not you're not you're not listening you seem to be seen I don't know I don't know what the issue is with you and him and me I'm not sure what it is but throughout this whole conversation I'm sitting looking for epitech daughter of Zion you have not listened you don't care to listen which makes us wonder why did you show up and this isn't to put down this is for this is for people who need to understand first of all you guys understand me I want to do two things I want to help the body to grow in two ways I want us to grow in two ways one this way and also that way how does that happen this way numerically I want more and more people added to the body I want to grow this way in terms by understanding our deeper appreciation for the Lord that's what I want and then secondly I want us to fight off anything that's gonna harm that growth there are plenty of legitimate rules false teachers and false prophets out there who need no introduction that we need to be fighting and we cannot waste we cannot be stupid we cannot be silly we cannot be foolish and fight the wrong people here we are in a foxhole fighting the enemy and we turn our guns on each other shoot him no you shoot him no I'll shoot you if you don't that's not how that goes people ask me why don't why don't you go after this person go after that person go after that person I'm never going to treat a believer like a non-believer and I'm not going to treat a person who is trying to get an understanding who unintentionally may say something wrong I'm not going to be that person I'm not going to treat that person like an intentional wolf an intentional heritage that's not gonna happen and I'm gonna have an issue with you and and again you I think the issue though guys I think the issue is and I listen I appreciate what young Donna's doing you go to this channel and what you're gonna notice is there are a lot of young people there a lot of young people there I hope that because I don't watch I don't watch all of this stuff I really don't I really don't I hope they're getting a true picture of a gospel not saying that he's giving a bad picture bad presentation with everybody a lot of young folks I like to see I like to see young people growing in the gospel one of my other earlier ministries I was a I was a youth pastor for several years dealing with not just children and junior high students and high school but also the college and young adults folks like these people age dealing with them and having and I was not condemning you know you got this earring you got fish you got that what I know you're going to hell no I'm not doing that no I understand people are young people are young now I'm also the point to where I believe that a stern review can come comes about from time and time the Bible says again see what I'm supposed to do is this urge the young men to be sensible that's the that's the job and all things show yourself to be an example of good deeds with purity and doctrine dignified sound and speech which is beyond reproach so that the opponent will not be I mean will be put to shame having nothing to say about us I do my best to try to live that way and act that way I do I do and so the redeeming the best the best part about is that he's a Christian and that he's young and see here here's why I've got to let you go because you don't you all you're here young fellow all you're here for is just to cause problems so when you call a Calvinist a fool and that he's not a Christian then you clearly indicate that you have no idea what the gospel is about you tell me that he has to believe and then he gets to the point where he believes he believes but now he's trying to figure out how we come to salvation y'all do realize that's the crux of Calvinism how we come to salvation not in salvation and afterwards but how we get there he believes and you're gonna say that he's not a Christian because of do you know we've got and this is the biggest problem that we have with some of you guys is who your friends are some of you guys need to figure out who your friends are now I did hear something that that young Don said and he gave a shout out to a couple people that that supported me said I you know it's good to have support he mentioned one guy who I've never heard of but I guess he's got a channel I guess he's a fairly new Christian as well someone was telling the guy cast Cassidy Campbell oh I said right Cassidy Campbell who also I understand is young and faith amen amen we want more of you guys then you got another guy who who is a kjv Pharisee sniffing out Pharisees is go to I hate to even mention the guy's name because when you go to his channel I just want to see who was this guy who was this guy because I did a video on this he did a video on me which is how I knew about him and everybody on his channel got a 666 of horns a 666 across their head or horns guys I don't care if you're young Don or if you're old me or anyone in between you need to be careful with who your friends are you need to be careful with who you align yourselves with fine line yourselves up with people who have no mental or spiritual ability to discern they will do you harm they will do you harm is that is that true I are let me ask this by the way you guys that are that are that are making me say but I hope you guys I hope you all are in a local church I hope you all are part of a body by the way thank you all for the Super Chat so far thank you thank you Art Goon I like that name though Art Goon but I hope you guys are a part of a local body I hope that you all have older men and women and other Christians as well to look up to me I and you're right I believe I I believe just going off of what I see and what I hear I believe he is safe I really do I really I really do but there's a reason why God ordered things this way I want to get to something first and then come back to this to something that that keeps getting brought up y'all do realize that once we're saved once a person has placed their faith in Christ you only get there I don't know how many times you have to save or something before someone starts to realize hey is that what you believe you do you do realize that you can't become a Christian unless you believe in I've been saying for the last 40 years for the last 30 years I've been in ministry for 32 33 years been saying the same thing I've been saying the same thing and so you're right chess champ it's not my fault if you don't listen I can I can say it I can't make you listen so we are to do works without question can I can I just give you some basic straightforward scriptures because that's what we do here at the smart Christians channel we look at the Bible because that's what a smart Christian would do is actually look at the Bible so let's go and see what Jesus says but we already said what we already saw what God said God literally says that when he puts his spirit in us he's going to cause and the word cause you can have a problem with it I didn't write it I didn't choose that word but the word cause I saw means to do to make to make you walk because that was the issue prior to the cross was we would be in sin and and and we won't do anything about it left to our own devices hey Starboy Smith left to our own devices but let's leave with see what the Bible says the Bible says Jesus says this in John 14 12 truly truly I say to you that he who believes that is the high pistol on the bleeding one high pistol on ice aiming Ty ergot the reason why I said that the one believing in me Ty ergot the work ha ergot ergo I mean a go the work which I am doing that person Kakenas which is that person he will do poison that is the work that I do Jesus says the work that I am doing you will do the work that I do the switch Jesus says the work that I am doing or I do you will do also Benny says even much more more works more works you will do you will do works you just give yourself a big hug grab your shoulders just hold on you will do works if you are a Christian not you will do works to become a Christian not you will do works to stay a Christian if anyone tries to be justified by working by doing the law that person is cut off we're not saying that we are saying that you will do works Jesus says so God says so he says also this Jesus says in Matthew 5 12 rejoice and be glad for your reward is in heaven is great and in the same way they persecute the prophets I'm sorry I'm wearing the wrong one oh I'm sorry I'm right I'm sorry verse 13 you are the salt of the earth but if salt has become tasteless how can it become salty again it is no longer good for nothing except to be thrown out and trapped on the foot he says you're good for nothing look what he says now you are the light of the world a city on a hill cannot be hidden nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket I've always wondered that if you're saved and you don't have works or want to do works what it has that look like I'm saved and what do you stay in a cocoon because how do you walk how do you talk how do you go to work how do you drive how do you go to a girls store how do you interact with people without the infusion of the Holy Spirit showing up the love of him showing up how does that happen he says this let your light verse 16 shine before men in such a way that they may see what that they may see that you believe no they may see your works they may see your good words as a matter of fact let's pull this up I want you to see the word for works the word for works is ta kalai erga which is the good works your works the very same thing that Jesus the very same word that Jesus used was works you are going to he says you're going to cause him by the way by the way by the way now this is why I'm getting ready to get accused of being a Calvinist right here Ephesians 2 8 he says for grace you have been saved through faith and that not of yourself it is a gift of God salvation and the very faith that you have according to this passage I won't go through the grammatical grammatical uh stands of this is that both of those are from God a gift the salvation that you have and the faith that brought it about now let's continue verse 9 not as a result of works we get that not as a result of your works but we just told us as as per God gifting it to you so that nobody can boast for we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus huh problem created in Christ Jesus for good works and there's that word again ergoice good works which God prepared beforehand so that we walk in them he prepared what beforehand these good works so that we can walk in what what's at sea of walking them those very same work he created us to walk in those works now we are saved that's done now go do some stuff go get some other folks say how does how does anyone how did young Don how did Corey how did uh Elmo how did Tyra how did truth of talks how did Daryl King how did any of you guys how did Scott how did how did you guys come to Christ tell me how did you come to Christ someone shared the gospel that's the work by the way we don't how can they hear without a preacher how can they how can they want to preach without unless the preacher be sent he's got to go to them this isn't difficult guys this isn't a hard thing this is not a reason for us to fight do you understand this I hope I'm being clear now I'm so clear and so much on this that I'm to the point to where y'all saw me say it again if the young folk don't want to listen that's fine if the young folk want to come after look oh man you better back off for you get hurt oh man yeah so I got to be a whole man up uh um what show you what I got what you want some of this well I want a lot of that what look at your father getting ready to take you down but when I was in prison y'all know what I used to do can I tell you what I used to do now I don't recommend doing this you just gotta first of all being older helps when you when you're in prison I'll never forget this I'll never forget this I used to I'd work out in prison we do cross fit so we're gonna lift weights and we're gonna run and we're gonna jump and we're gonna move our body weight we're gonna move weights and I'm on the pull-up bar and there's this younger guy comes to me and says uh uh look your og you almost finished and I said I'm almost through it and I paused in the middle pull up I said wait a second what you called me what you mean you called me og yeah yeah what what's wrong with that ma'am you called me og og og now when I say og they don't really mean like it used to be original gangsters they mean like you know you're old guy then he said my bad school I just I didn't mean no offense he turned around and called me school which is short for old school hurt my heart but guess what I was old enough to be this fellas you know what was old to be his father I'm not sure if I was or not I'm not sure old enough to be his uncle how about that but then I would look at me on the on the on the weight pile that's what we call it in prison the we go to lift weights that I used to talk trash to the young folks I used to pick on them because I needed some motivation so I'd go and mess with them and and hey come on everybody in my look we call it a car little workout car they were all young except for no except for two guys two guys were older everyone else was younger and our goal was anytime these young pups want to step up let's go ahead and give it to them I wanted to be the baddest guy on the yard when it came to working out I wasn't as strong as every guys who could bench press a house and a car but hey I about pick on and mess with them and we were all cool they understood because the point is what we're trying to do is the the the old folks didn't want the young folks to do and go through and make the same mistakes as we did for some reasons just what it is in human nature we don't like to listen to older people I didn't I didn't and then when you get older what do you say matter of fact you get older you find yourself saying the same thing that your mother and father said in the same way I would love to know what is he correct on and that I'm incorrect on I said he said we both say that you come to Christ I think you guys are not listening I'm almost to that conclusion you come to Christ by faith only when you get to Christ what is Christ going to have you do sit there no he's going to move you and so God says Paul says Jesus says we're told to examine yourself find out make sure where's the disagreement at give me give me the passage because I haven't gotten one yet the passage that disagrees with me now whether you do a lot of works or very little works what have you that's not that's not the determination if if you're saved I don't even I don't see you enough to know what works you're doing that's for you to determine for yourself let every man examine himself not let every man examine everyone else let every man examine himself you know if you're only saying claiming Christ just for the sake of it excellent point chris because you're missing young brother talk about perseverance of the saints the p in tulip you hold to the perseverance of the saints is if you're a free gracer you better hold to it you better hold to it if you think that the holy spirit comes in you and doesn't keep you what does Ephesians 1 13 14 tell you sealed secure can I just let me just since I'm already in Ephesians let's just pull it up and you tell me I want you to tell me and the rest you guys and I'm gonna get to something about the company that we keep verse 13 he says in him you also after listening to the message of truth the gospel of your salvation having also believed you were sealed with him that is a holy spirit with a holy spirit of promise okay so a believer is sealed with the holy spirit I'm talking about it seal secure pay attention stop typing and pay attention young fella now now now uh old man is talking to the young fella listen for a second and hear the word I'm not making I'm literally reading the scriptures so he says that once you believe after having believed and what's the word for believe this is the word that I've told you guys is the issue when we determine what I what believe and believe is believe is the the way you believe that's not salvific way of believing versus the salvific way the one that the bible describes us as believers hop is to on the believing ones the believing thank you thank that's all I need to hear old fellow don't mind that the old fellow don't mind that after you have after you are the believing ones you are sealed as you're believing ones what keeps you sealed and the sealing is not a I'm gonna make you this that's not what that word means now we're gonna see what it does though the word sealed is like a like the roman seal around the temp around the tune says that if anyone breaks this now you've got the ire of the roman government you are you are sealed this is your protection from who from god none other than heaven itself verse 14 he says who is given as a pledge of our inheritance with a view of redemption of god's own possession of the praise in other words you cannot you're given the holy spirit as a and the word that's used here let's put on the screen the word that's used here in verse 14 is our bone haestine our bone now that is a down payment an early and earnest money deposit he's you've been given the holy spirit until and to bring you to salvation that's literally what the p is you are going to persevere do we have to endure yes it's those very enduring ones who are also the overcomings the overcomers are the ones who believe the ones who believe who believe are the ones who are born of god I covered that just recently watch those videos as well and I'm saying this because I don't want you I don't want you guys to run amuck of bad doctrine I don't want you because you can get off and so I just wish that and you can be correct matter of fact if you were if half of us were a little bit more humble in the way we approach the text and deal with folks it would be a whole lot better and you wouldn't have to come back and say I apologize or I'm now I believe this now and I believe this now and now when you this is how you know someone is young when every time you turn around they're changing their view on certain positions now that you shouldn't change you should but if every other week you've changed this you've changed that and so when when you say that you're for free grace what does that mean because well I'm for free grace and I'm I'm I'm explaining it are you with me but now there's an issue because when you get comfort and congratulations and kudos it's easy to go to the head and make you want to play to that particular audience there's one guy on his channel that I happen to see now I did see the guy cat castley campbell castley campbell don't know who much about this guy other than he's he's fairly new and he's more than welcome to have a conversation with me more than welcome more than welcome to this other guy the sniffing out Pharisee he's got Dom on this whole King James version thing listen to King James version is fine have no problem with King James version do I need to use the Greek of the King James version to prove the points let me just play a clip now this is the guy he's got I don't know if he's got I know he's got a 666 on my head so and you go to this channel that's all he has everybody he says 99% of people 99% of people don't know don't know the truth but he does all right tell you something about him already and then he's called out everybody with 666 on their heads fine but I just want to just show something a passage that he used now he's made a video about me which is why I I haven't seen the video I just saw it playing on on Don's video and so let me just cover this particular point look at the new king James because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life and there are few who find it the new king James is worse in this case it literally says salvation is difficult you don't have to know Greek to know whether a bible translation is good or not yeah I know he's speaking about me because right behind that here's a picture of me this is his video talking about me can I go to this particular passage that he's bringing up in the King James version he is getting on in this in this particular clip the new King James version of Matthew 17 13 and 14 broad is the way narrow is the way so forth and he says he doesn't like the fact that the new King James version says difficult and whereas the King James version says another word he likes the way that they matter of fact he actually likes the way that the NASB says he says that narrow is the way let's look at the word narrow not in the Greek of either the majority text or the critical text the NA 28 we're going to look at it in the received text the receptive Texas the text that is used for the King James version on this passage says and in this word that's right here this is the Greek word the word thlebo or thleba this word means to crush to compress to oppress to trouble to annoy bad or difficult that's literally what the word is he's complaining that the new King James version gives the definition that the Greek text that was used to translate the King James version what it actually means my suggestion is leave that kind of person alone not saying he's not a Christian or not I don't I don't know his heart well I'm I'm seeing his heart and the way he looks at everyone else who doesn't think the way he thinks he sounds like he's he's fairly new himself I don't know I don't know but let me see let me see if he says anything else worthwhile you look at the doctrine the Bible teaches this is clearly false doctrine this is damn double heresy heresy that'll send someone to hell if they so you mean to tell me if I believe you mean to me if I believe I place my faith in Christ let's say I believe your free gracer place my faith in Christ let's say I did it in North Korea didn't have a Bible heard the gospel and believed am I safe mr kjp Pharisee am I safe sure I am according to you but then I start reading in ESB or guess what yeah it's the most popular version on the planet the King James version it is not in every language on the earth and so what if I'm what if I'm somewhere where the King James version is not in my language or what if I got saved happens a bit before the King James version was even published what if what what if I actually read Greek if I'm if I'm if I spoke Greek and read Greek prior to six to the 1600s 1700s what what if then me tell you couldn't be saved but I believed I believed I know it's not difficult but it's difficult to accept for many people that's literally what the word says you're okay the the issue is the issue is the issue is what does the word mean he says you don't have to know the Greek you don't but you'd have but you know you have to know to get the King James version or the ESV or the ESV or any other version you know what you have to know you have to know Greek you have to know Hebrew that's what you have to know and so if you disagree only because you are ignorant of the facts not that you're an ignorant person but just simply ignorant of the facts and so and I'm not I'm not attacking the King James version I've never attacked the King James version it's not my favorite nor is ESV nor is in ESV nor are any versions I don't have a favorite version I don't and so when I look at them King James version new King James version matter of fact I can most of the passes that I quote will either be new King James or King James version from memory that that's that's what it is so I don't have a problem with either of those the issue is when you say that someone who quotes out of none of them that that person they're wrong and now we're talking about a damnable heresy how could it be a damnable heresy Mr. K. J. B. Pharisee if if they believe if they believe how could how could that be because all I have to do is believe but then they went a different direction and oh well did I saved huh which isn't what Alan Parr was saying there are a lot of people that profess to be Christian who are not and so if I decide to look at the Greek you punish me you upset with me you say so because you're ignorant of how the bible was put together that's all not a bad thing you can grow the one thing you can do is grow out of ignorance you really can it's not a terminal condition it really isn't they always believe that salvation is difficult the NASB is actually good on this passage specifically but let's look at another verse starting with the King James John chapter 3 verse 36 he that believed on the sun hath everlasting life and he that believed not the sun shall not seal it okay so his point is uh King James version only listen King James version for the rest of life I don't have a problem with you reading the King James version I have a problem with you saying the King James version is the version is the only version how do you know guys that your version isn't the version that came from heaven how do you know simply start comparing the numbers in first and second kings first and second sang on first and second chronicles and start start comparing the numbers was it 700 or 7000 chariots was his person 42 or 18 there are what we call copyist errors even in your translation in the King James version as well did that come from heaven the error no it came from a copyist the copyist the people who translated the bibles who wrote them down were not God ordained they did the best they could and there were mistakes as made I'm going to show you guys uh I'm I'm not picking on King James version I'm it's in the NIV as well it's in the uh new King James version it's in the ESV it's in the NASB and so as students of the Bible we should go and find out what the truth is the Bible is wonderful no errors in its original but if Joe Blow goes and copies it and makes a mistake I'm not going to impugn God or the writer's integrity because this guy 500 or a thousand years later wrote the wrong thing down now that's not on them that's on that's on guys on them the kjv was translated by 47 greek scholars who all in their annotations stated that there's much work to be done and needing more and needing more transcripts that's what makes you a kjv Pharisee not the folks I love the kjv but some of you guys are kjv Pharisees and then what happens is you guys begin to idolize it can I ask you guys a question can you go to can you go to heaven if you idolize something else if you idolize something else you can't be not you can't be an idol of anything else again I if you love the king james version fine if you love the ESV fine in if you look fine but what we cannot do is separate on the basis of translations we can't do that that that's not a very mature thing to do if you want to find fine I promise you I promise you you're not being a very good steward of the work can I ask a question not to be confused with ready for Christ can I ask a question now here's my question you said but it seems like you have over analyzed the word of God I believe you said that you spent 15 years in prison studying the bible well I wasn't there 15 years I was in 13 years I studied the bible and preached the bible preached the gospel what should I been doing I want you to think about what you just said with all the respect brother or sister with all the respect how do you how's it possible to study too much is can you can you possibly get too much of it too much of a good thing at what point do you study too much you know what I'm saying and all I've got is the word now I'm not over studying it it's just that if I say someone says well no this means that way second that word that you're talking about doesn't mean that what should I do if I happen to know that this word in the Hebrew means this and then you say it means that then what should I do when the man says that an elder or pastor should be the husband of the first wife like that's not what that word means that word me has to start being first what should I do I I studied enough don't let anyone else know no that's not how that works you know and so I'm going to I told you guys I'm also going to have a an actual an actual scholar Greek scholar the one who who kind of kind of infuse me with this desire to even learn the Greek even more so um he's an when I say a scholar I mean a scholar not not just some guy just an actual scholar I'm going to bring him on we're also going to do this a little a little uh example study on how that you can do how textual criticism done just a little basic little practice on how how textual critic is done you know too much dumb it down yeah I try to and I don't think see here's the thing though here's the thing and I know what you're saying you don't have to dumb the word of God down I think that we call people up to the higher standard of the scriptures that's what we do whether you are on the free grace side or the lordship side by side which by the way most of those people on both sides are saying a lot of the same thing but here's what I'm saying and this is the point I said it with the original video fighting Alan Parr is not the fight to have fighting uh young Don I'm not gonna fight with you that it ain't gonna happen there's a bigger fight to fight there's some people y'all y'all did see this movie that's coming out with these people who believe that the only way you can be delivered is if someone puts their hand on y'all y'all did see that right that's the fight work worth fighting got too much to have too much to do to spend too much time calling a brother who I disagree with a heretic or falsely no got too much time for that I mean not enough time for that and so no I don't I don't I don't I don't begrudge the young brother at all I love him to death want to see him do well I want I can't wait to see him in five years and 10 years in 30 years now will I be on YouTube in five or 10 years I'm more than sure I won't be not not in this capacity more than sure so and you're jealous of him I just I just learned about him a month or so ago not just a matter of fact I'm leaving this so but the point is guys we are on the same team we are on the same team somebody got dismissed we are on the same team let me do this real quick because I want I want the I want the theatrical effect for this we are on the let me just do that we are on the same team we're on the same team we're on the same team we're on the same team did I say it enough we're on the same team me young Don Allen par I'm sorry I'm sorry uh k deb true uh let's see Tyra chest champ truth of talks miss galloway dutch and dutch's mama I don't know if you're still here Carol perfectly imperfect we're on the same team I can really fight at each other because I disagree with how you said where you said at the table you didn't do dishes no on the same team and so I wanted to be clear I don't want you to hear this I want you in my heart we're not we're not enemies we're not gonna we're not gonna we're not gonna we're not gonna do this I think you're I think your overall assessment is wrong I think how you get there is correct because I'm listening to what you're saying I'm listening to what you're saying and you literally said a lot of the same things that we say so guys I got to get ready to go I got some things I need to do and then I've got to get ready for this next broadcast we are talking about the one topic that we do not talk enough about that is atonement it is the very foundation of our salvation so if you want to have an in-depth discussion studying the scriptures as we're supposed to not studying too much but going into what the scriptures are about how we get to the salvation what's about God didn't do a new thing he just gave a new new element for his plan of salvation amen