 Welcome back to the breakfast and plus TV Africa will take you through the pages of a national dailies We call it off the press and as always we'll have a guest join the conversation But I'd like to set up with the leadership newspaper the emphasis this morning will be on the top stories Let's look at the banner caption for the leadership newspaper 2023 presidency Sanos he makes case for competence merit as politicians review zoning argument or Orhanese opposes zoning arrangements and wants PDP will collapse a party's own ticket to North says Jonathan lost 2015 election for not respecting zoning agreement Stakeholders push for lower borrowing to foreign budget What was talking about the 2022 budget here and Senate traces defunct? PHCN's hidden 14 billion era in banks APC crisis bonita mid-gomba stakeholders over party structure and You also find vice-president gml. Sheeban joined ganna for echo was submit Mati Allah replies or Tom over terrorist tags We won't forget sacrifices of our armed forces the governor of reverse status quoted. Yes, I'm wiki I mean, this is some of the headlines on the leadership this morning. All right, so the Nigerian Tribune Biggest story that says APC may adopt consensus ahead of February convention Half of the government spent about 50 in a 6.9 billion naira on women and youths in 2021 fiscal year Bandits release additional 30 students in Kirby after six months a man 76 fake security agents in NDLE a net of our imported drug chocolates cookies and others and Process to authenticate the next old Lou Badon continues tomorrow Still on the Tribune five years after a budget airport closure federal government fails to construct second runway DSS invitation plots to silence Bishop coca and that's from so Kapu Two years after deadline more than 50% of Nigerians private school teachers still unqualified says the TRC and Those are big stories on the Tribune this morning Away from the Tribune. Let's quickly check out the punch newspaper and on the punch the caption reads and Fast compulsory vaccination for local government state workers federal government tells governors You also have the NPHC da Urges states to set up mass vaccination sites in markets others vaccination grounds at 4.2% 38 deaths recorded first week January This the board headline and the banner. I mean the ride as you find underneath the board caption Capital importation falls by 1.68 trillion error says CBN and federal government issues Lassa fever alert debt toll hits 102 cases now 4,632 You also have Senate probe 14.7 billion error PHC and privatization fund in secret account federal government excessive borrowing from CBN Threatens exchange rate orders. That's according to a report and just before we move away You also find commercial boss driver staffs Lovers husband to death in Ogun and Grandpa Brazil returning on the graduate arrested with cocaine and tramadol and cannabis Now this is some of the headlines on the punch newspaper this morning Staff lovers husband to death. Yes, I think I saw that story yesterday Sad one so we don't know their place Moving on to the daily independent newspapers Let's see what we can find over there the big story, of course is on your screen It says here 2022 budget on show revenue raises a risk of higher fiscal deficit Nigeria's debt burden widens a more amid the poor budget funding say analysts Say the country's debt service to revenue ratio highest in Africa It will be a grave mistake not to release Kanu says IPOB 14.7 billion hour defunct PHC and funds hidden in banks Uncovered Stakeholders doubts rebirth of national carrier in three months. I am sure it will come on board says a league being and also Nigeria in need of comprehensive youth policy On convention APC governors divided shift meeting with Buhari and also Buhari should back the APC to zone Presidency to Southeast says VON Director-General Before we I mean guess George is just to quickly mention that Once again, I wanted things are gonna be talking about today is the killing of about 200 people in Zampara State a few days ago And it is not even in the headlines this morning. And that basically is telling you how Nigerians and the Nigerian government has moved on, you know after 200 of his citizens were killed And I'm not sure how that makes anybody feel because yes, it may not have happened in Lagos or in Abuja Oh, and you know poor target, you know, wherever you might be watching us from this morning but it happened in Nigeria and these are Nigerian citizens and The Nigerian government simply has or seemingly has moved on After about 200 of its citizens were killed by bandits or terrorists or whichever name that you you know You choose to give them It didn't even make the papers and I saw someone share of his thoughts yesterday asking What country really does this type of you know thing happen in what nation across the world? Do you hear of 200 deaths in 48 hours 96 hours and everybody just moves on it doesn't even make headlines 48 hours later And it's not a country that is necessarily, you know has agreed that it is at war You know, if you're hearing about this in Ethiopia, you know when where there's a tigering forces fighting government and the likes and you can say okay Well, you know casualties of the war going on over there if it is if it is a war-torn country, maybe in the Middle East But even in those countries you do not hear of 200 people dead in Two days or three days even in the worst Situations that you can imagine in the last couple of years four five six ten years that there has been an actual war in a country You still do not hear that 200 people were killed So this is no longer Nigeria dealing with a banditry issue This is no longer, you know, Nigeria Having bandits or terrorists or whatever whichever name that you try to call them We are at war with people that we've not been able to identify With people that the Nigerian government has not been able to properly explain who they are and Victims of this war and citizens in Zamfara and Kaduna and the Northwest and the Northeast Eastern region The Nigerian government on a Monday morning still has not put out any statement any word With regards to death of 200 citizens. I think it was on Friday that it was the report of 147 bodies had been found Some of the papers said 143 bodies had been found On Saturday the Nigerian government in the news, you know agreed that 58 people were killed according to government figures But those people who are on ground will say completely differ say otherwise. It's way more than 58 But even if it's seven even if it's three even if it's one even if it's one person, you know 200 Nigerian citizens past in the most gruesome way not in a pandemic Not because there was an Ebola outbreak in Zamfara. Not because there was an earthquake in Zamfara Not because there was some natural disaster or tsunami and The Nigerian government has moved on Doesn't even acknowledge the death of these 200 people doesn't even address the Nigerian citizens with regards how Disastrous this is This is the same Nigerian government and these are the same persons in government today That ran down the previous government because of its own failures with regards in security The persons today that you hear about that are currently in government and those who are maybe also quite as one of them that currently is now hosting Vlogs and interviewing persons every every week But those voices were extremely loud when they were in security challenges in the previous government And it's not saying you know that it's a it's a it's this is not a But how come we can lose 200 persons and we've moved on Just like I mentioned, you know, you have Governors I mean apart from the fact that you're expecting to hear a statement from the federal government You're also asking yourself, you know the governors in this region and 19 of them No statement whatsoever and this killings are, you know steel. It's really sad, you know that number Very unfortunate it continues to just shows that we do not have regard for human life and It shows, you know via, you know the actions that we have as a people I mean what we asked because what what you believe you become and of course you begin to act You know what you believe and this is really sad So at this point in time you begin to question yourself when you have, you know countries I mean others begin to treat you because sometimes you find the issue of police brutality outside of Nigeria, right? And we constantly will be screaming on top of our voices and saying oh that's unfair That's unfair But you see it just shows you that the way we regard ourselves the way we have, you know decided to treat ourselves I mean you want to ask say that the issue of why we've been docile at this point in time Why we've been dumb? Why is the government not speaking? I mean those who committed these crimes Can we not identify them? Did this, did these persons come from fall from the sky? This is some of the questions you want to begin to ask yourself Did this person fall from the sky? Because I feel that over time the fact that the body language of the government across board has not been in In such that it wants to address the issue has continued to embody in these persons these terrorists this bandit to Continue, you know to go on you know perpetrating all of this evil if you have a case where this has happened And you have people being arrested is it is a question of the fact that you have the infrastructure Not functional. Is it that the the structures are not there's no they don't have the capacity to ensure and enforce arrest This is some of the content Let's bring it up on a ball in Kottaria who's joining us via zoom Good morning, Mr. Inkotara If you can hear us, I'm not sure we can't hear you. Mr. Inkotara, can you hear us clearly while we try to Make that connection work You know, that's very likely one of the things it's not in the news this morning But I will bring it up first, you know and you know and ask what exactly You know we are doing you know as a country Where are we going, you know and at what level will it become too much because you know One of the things that you mentioned earlier was fatigue the Nigerians have heard these stories too many times We've dealt with death too many times And so it's no longer, you know a trending story. Miss Inkotara. Good morning. Once again. Can you hear us? Yes, we can loud and clear thanks for joining us so I want us to start with What we're currently discussing and that is The silence from the Nigerian government from the Nigerian people from the National Assembly everybody who really and of course includes governors in in in the north After the death of about 200 Persons in Zamfara a few days ago. It's Monday morning. No word. Anywhere Well, I'll start with this I think Nigerians are beginning to be in awe. They are getting accustomed To the concatenation of death mother such a nation taking place in this country But I don't think that is enough really for the media not to publish because the media have this responsibility to on earth and Natural issues issues of human interest and what are you on the issue on the side of the government? I don't expect anything Because we have a government like I still say it's almost Like a book record. We have a government that is in safety. We have a government that is Carlos we have a government that Does not care about The ordinary man the ordinary Nigerian tonight told me I said We have a system where you have capitalism for the poor socialism for the rich whatever happens to the poor is your bloody business Whatever happens to the market is your bloody business But if one minister dies today or loses everybody close to him You'll see all of them running around. So that is a situation Impactist situation. My hands are found themselves. So I think I'll enjoy Journalists, of course, I'm one of you. I'll end that journalist Not to play in their duty because they shall remiss should they not publish these issues Human life Yeah, it's not made headlines if you're with regards a journalist and the media and responsibility that they should have It's not made headlines this morning. And that's that's the point most of the stories I joined journalists You're checking your accessibility to the society because that is what you owe the society any information of national interest of human interest Consequences I don't want to go into new determinants. You know that so it's our accessibility of journalists to be to fall these issues but what I said and as I'm enjoying that They didn't bother to make it headline you but if you don't make it headline you it should be reported But I didn't bother because I tell you today even if you publish that 500,000 of the massacre that will not sell your paper anymore It could take it could take the form of the bottom strip or whatever Well, it will not sell your paper anymore because people are not to eat the ducks cause they take place on daily business If not, I have a business in this country and we have an insensitive government So I don't even expect a step if by government will not want to say anything on that because they That would be further publicizing it So they want to the main news on the side of the government But that does not mean that the journalists will set his own accessibility It is not to leave me wrong. These are things that should be reported. That's why I joined them. I Decisive not to be discouraged not to be dismantled and we should not allow Financial gain. In other words, if the paper is going to sell a lot We should not allow financial gain, you know override the cloud our reasoning a sense of judgment We should not allow that. So that's why I joined them to please not repeat the obligations to the society But for the government, they are callous Accessities, they don't care. One people can die in the game. They don't care The only time they're interested is if somebody that belongs to a member only member of their family or a good friend died You see the government will come up to with all kinds of tundra statements Oh, we must do this. Oh, we are going to find this one. It's not it. It doesn't concern them. They are silent Your business We should be close in our mind This paper I use as you can defend myself From that Open up on cut area. Let's move away from that conversation for the want of time So we're able to you know, go through some of the headlines this morning on the papers now the issue of Zoning and competence and merit has actually surfaced again ahead of the 2023 elections And you have the fact that Sanos is making, you know, serious argument for competence and merit and why some politicians already begin to argue, you know, the issue of zoning and why In 2015 Jonathan actually lost the election Under the You know party of the people's democratic Under the leadership or the calendar of the people's democratic party for not respecting zoning. Let's show your thoughts on that Sorry, I think it's not Okay, so I'm saying that the issue of zoning I'm saying that the issue I'm saying that the issue of zoning has surfaced again And this time you have Sanosi making arguments for zoning Uh of making arguments for competence and merit as against the argument where politicians are saying Hey zoning has to be eaten. He's you know pushing for competence rather than we just zoning So I like to share your thoughts and some other proponents have said the reason why Good luck a billy jonathan lost the 2015 election was because the people's democratic party at the time Did not respect, you know the arrangement of zoning with Is it Sanosi who talked of Merrito Christie as against zoning Competence as against zoning. But you see we live in a sensitive society And in every zone you have competent hands. We are competent person So you must aggregate you must marry the issue of zoning Because like it is rightly pointed out good luck jonathan actually lost because he felt he was Going to take the Opportunity of the uh the notan there the notan zone. So I want credible persons. I want competent persons But we can not just dismiss zoning Because the essence of zoning is to ensure unity Is to ensure Participation because even without zoning there's only a particular section of the society will rule forever If you plant it on competence because democracy is all about numerical strength That's what is all about and so the north will have to do the numerical strength and will forever rule This is not democratic in that happen. Then it is not democratic And because other people like that will feel marginalized will feel sidelined Will feel discriminated against and if they so feel then of course you expect that there will be a For the system which might prescribe more which might respect right now look at what is going on even in the south in the south east What is happening in the south is because the beauty of the marginalized since 1999 to this So you cannot just wish away zoning and it is to take care of these issues that even in america you have the policy step The policy step is meant to address the nuances numerical nuances in the system Otherwise the particular person will never imagine the president of the United States of America So you find that if you have the numerical books you have the numerical strength Like a world deed like Hillary Clinton did but they never imagine president So these issues are considered in order to address most of these numerical imbalances Going on in the country but in every country you definitely have a particular section That has more passions than your last section in every country that is i've got as many But if you wish away zoning i tell you there'll be crisis if you're prescription for crisis In every zone you have competent hands So we can all just say no let's enjoy i'm talking about competent Now he's talking about competent because he knows that they have the numerical strength It's a special argument on the surface of me How to say you say yes there is sense in it but it has sinister plots that's the truth about it He knows that they have the numerical strength And i believe because you know it was one of them who said the houses was ruined for everybody For the south america who said the houses were ruined they were poor and he was getting back under the numerical strength So you cannot go to future way zoning that would be a prescription for energy So the south east is a good example Even in the south east you have a competent house in the south west you have competent house in the south south you have in the north north east north center You have competent hands And that is why it's called a consensus That agreement accommodation would be reached would definitely be a prescription for energy So yes we are great competent hands You have Not all those in the north are competent Technically not all those in the north not everybody in the south is competent Well Jonathan was better being that competent enough If they got that a south south man i can tell you i wasn't happy with the system of administration i wasn't happy at all So i must but you have competent hands in every zone So i don't know where you have the consensus for example are you PDB or APC APC okay fine Let us look at who i'm going to take from the south south to placate the south south Hypothetically that's what i'm saying They're going to take the south south to placate the south east to placate the south east and the south east Who are those competent persons in the house east That's where competence comes in But that does not mean you're going to wish the way it's working No no that's completely unacceptable completely unacceptable All right, um also on the Oh the Nigerian tree view this morning That's a story that says dss invitation a plot to silence bishop kuka And that's from uh so capo quickly also share your thoughts on that Oh Kuka definitely has been a turn in the flesh of the federal government Because we have been too vocal Is is one man of gratitude that is highly respected And whatever he's saying Is giving the wish he deserves But you see the contradiction and irony we are talking about in this country Gumi has been talking all kinds of nonsense threatening President and the federal government If it's a president comes up this morning to say We are going to crush his bandit We will come in the morning in the afternoon to say you cannot crush their you must grant them a message What has happened to Gumi? Nothing Nothing has happened The moment he opens his mouth he is like a oh the inviting dss That is what we're talking about That is the discrimination we're talking about in this country And that's why i tell a lot of people i say look mr. President People say the president is the president I don't know what they do We're talking about the president is mr. President He's an embodiment of the president As the head of your home if they are talking of your home. They are referring to you That's what it sucks. No sentiment. Forget the rhetorics So that's why the mr. President knows what he is doing You know if you remember last year I said there is a deliberate attempt to silence Satisfactions of the society They think that the hegemony they are right To rule and whatever they do Must be accepted is blossoming No that hasn't must stop. They are gods And this is going on in this country What has Kuka done? What has Kuka said? That Gumi has not said or even worse Why would the president be inviting him Inviting the president to implement you He has not said anything that would threaten the leadership of this country Nothing He kept advising and advising But Gumi has been threatening to fire him during those two That really impressed him And he does not even feel it. He's not going to say anything That's the books of discrimination we're talking about in this country All right, let's quickly show your thoughts still on the leadership news we've heard this morning Senate traces defunct phc ends Hidden 14 billion are in accounts That is not on your screen It's on the leadership newspaper. Senate traces defunct phc ends hidden 14 billion in banks You talk about good news You know we are used to tracing We trace and trace and trace. We trace a lot. I believe most of them what have been Good as how did they call them? Is it those that draw very well at this time? Because we keep tracing tracing but the outcome of the traces are those with the issue Now they'll trace it. The next thing they'll say they put it into Piscale officer Project or they use it to a certain one that you can never get The real outcome is that we can't ascertain the veracity of how this money is recovered and used Talking about tracing, no problem. We keep tracing. Yeah, that's how we trace We've been tracing What of the money that that tracing after the treatment what have we been doing with the money? So now that they have traced thank you National Assembly, thank you Well, please Let Nigerians know what that money will be useful and all those involved in that world Must be brought to justice It is not just tracing name and shame them Procure them And let us also know what that money will be used for Then Nigerians will be satisfied. It is not enough to say you are traced We are used to tracing. We are used to seeing a sum of a billion. We are used to all kinds of things in this country We want to know go behind the pot Procure them And also tell us what you are going to use the recovered routes for We want you must be accountable. That is what will the Nigerians are interested in Thank you for tracing the money But we want to know how will the mastermind go behind They have to be prosecuted and how you intend to use the recovered routes All right, um Open up all in kotaire. Thank you so much for joining us We need to go thank you very much for your time this morning And of course we wish you a beautiful day ahead And of course uh moving away from tracing and uh tracy chapman and uh other similar words We'll take a short break while we come back. We'll be sharing with you what happened on this day in history in 2008 Not very long ago, but of course still made history and then right after that our president the conversation for today keeps off