 Briefing on behalf of the Deputy Chief of Staff for the operations Lieutenant General Joseph Gastille Jr. will be the Division Chief Ward Planning Policy Headquarters Air Force. Attending virtual will be Colonel Matthew Hunn. Give him a round of applause please. I appreciate the applause. I am not gonna be able to meet with the ability of Lieutenant General Costella to brief you today but wanted to say thanks for having us. General Costella had an unfortunate change of plans and uncontrollable change of plans so he couldn't hear but he wanted to one congratulate you on your selection to Chief Master Sergeant as leaders of our Air Force and you know it doesn't you know when you look at the globe right now right from an A3 perspective you look at what's going on in Ukraine you look what's going on in you know PCOM there is a lot going on and we need leaders like all of you to be ready for the next fight to be ready for the future and so that's an exciting time that's a big challenge for you all as well and for all of us but I you know congrats because that responsibility you know you're gonna be the ones executing and leading our Air Force in the future so that's great. As the Reaper just mentioned my name is Colonel Matthew Hunt I'm the Division Chief of the War Dogs here within the Pentagon in A3. The War Dogs are responsible for global force management or GFM which is the allocation of forces across the globe as well as the assignment of forces so you can think PCSs, Vice Deployments we work that on behalf of General Costella and for the Chief of Staff of the Air Force and so what we wanted to do is really kind of highlight some of the you know ongoing operations and give you a flair of what the A3 what the future holds now or excuse me what you know what we have now and what we see in the future coming and how we're gonna tackle that as an enterprise and so a next slide please should be a really a thermograph here in reality this is the highlight this slide that you see is to highlight that the Air Force is in demand if you look to the past we've been deployed for over 30 years we never left Iraq right in the last 20 years we've had an all-in mentality supporting the CTVO slight head of the fight but that's that's changed a little bit right we're out of Afghanistan there's some different movements the National Defense Strategy is highlighting how we need to face pure competition and so this slide that you see highlighted with all the different colors isn't the past it's actually the future and it really shows that there's an insatiable demand for air power across not only the spectrum of conflict either we're anywhere from CTVO all the way down the peacetime or to major war and day to day competition but also across and through the different combat commands and so I don't want to highlight them all that you can see this but General Mustafa uses this to demonstrate the Air Force being in demand whether it's strategic nuclear deterrence from a conus-based locations here in Northumb or cyber attacks homeland defense a strategic lift CTVO is ongoing space the Indo Pecan with Chinese expansion deterring day-to-day competition and then you can say day-to-day competition with Russia or potentially crisis response and so this highlights you know the Air Force is the strategic edge for the joint force and we're going to be in demand and excuse me in the future a lot of these challenges are going to be really resting on you guys to solve and so while a percent Air Force force generation and Air Force press presentation really it's going to be you affecting it in executing and so let's move on to the next slide you'll say today and tomorrow when you look at the strategic competition across the globe from the previous slide you know from all the way from peace timing to major war as well as across the combat commands there's a temporal element that's there as well and we've heard the Chief talk about it today with strategic competition there's a demand and there's really you know a fight between combat and commands who need the Air Force now right you think near term one to two years and there's also the demand for the Air Force to be that strategic edge to be ready for that future fight five ten fifteen years out into the future and so this creates a significant pull right with the combat commands the station will demand for them now and how do we give airmen the time to train and be ready for that future fight for highlighting and so it really is going to take two efforts within Air Force that Air Force force generation or after gin that we're going to talk about today there's really two significant challenges I wanted to highlight requiring the Air Force to change and and let me say that again because you all have been in the Air Force for quite some time as we implement after gin the Air Force is going to change it is not going to be the Air Force that we've seen for the last 20 years with the all in mentality and so as an airman has been around for significant amount of years right you and me both it requires us to look at the changes and implement them and changes hard so I highlight that ultimately Air Force for gin and force presentation are going to make two challenges hopefully enable airmen to execute the future the first challenge will be how we present forces how do we present forces to combat commanders because we can't fight the high-end fight of the future they can end up a calm or a you come fight with how we've been executing in the past or think more of a cent com model right you have on the left a crowdsourced team and EW or wing team that meet on the battlefield they meet at the IUDs they meet at the PSAPs for the first time they don't train together there's from 20 to 40 different wings I'll you need is a great example there's over 40 different wings of airmen that show up at IUD and they execute it's a very efficient model and it's good if we don't have to move round or if we have a airfield that we can defend but the future isn't going to be the same and how do we train airmen not only to be ready to move very rapidly as you see on the right the ace for actual combat employment but also to be against a near peer being able to disperse being able to quickly react and being able to know the airmen on their left or right now trained together and certified so they could do these more difficult concepts of employment and so we're going to change the way we present forces and I'll highlight that here in a bit you know not only from the wing level but we're going to also change how we give them the the white space in order to train let's go ahead and move on to the next slide please the second challenge is to build a credible team like I mentioned ready for the strategic competition of the future and how do we give airmen and unit in units the white space they need what you're taking a look at here is the Air Force Force generation model it's actually on the right side but I'll first go on to the left in in the national defense strategy published in 2018 and in the interim national defense strategy there is no change we need to be able to balance that and the way the set deaf directs that is through the point of dwell and mobilization dwell or the set deaf readiness framework that you see on the left and his goal across all joint forces of one to three deployed well so if you're out for a six month period of time you have 18 months where you're back home in order to train for the future and equally for our reserve component a mobilization to all of one to one to five that you see highlighted that joint staff the requirement of the one to three the actual red line is one to two and so the joint staff immediately our partners downstairs they're trying to squeeze as much as they can out of the Air Force and out of the other services in order to compete for the readiness of the now and so they're looking for a one to two model what we're and that's what you see there the joint staff on there on the left we're going to move to the right and so it's going to be a 24-month cycle six months per face that you can see highlighted and I'll run you through it very quickly I'm hoping most of you have seen this before but in this cycle in the available to commit which is from the midnight three position are those airmen that are one already in theater think maybe deployed through the CTV if I deploy it into cent com but we're also going to have airmen that are ready to go and they're part of the earth you can see they're the immediate response force airmen that are highly trained to the highest end of in the escape abilities national defense strategy the highest in think near peer or peer competition once they achieve that readiness whether they're employed in theater or not they're going to reset and move into a phase where they get back to the basics that's going to require maintenance on aircraft or it's going to require a unit basic training or airmen individual training in the next six-month period that you see there from the three o'clock to the six o'clock position our goal is to use that space and time and assure that is free of any other tasking so that white space is cleared and you can start to build and prepare for the next phase which is which is just that the prepare phase where you start to see full spectrum training come on online collective training unit or our eyes and the like in order to be moved into the ready phase and in the ready phase while we don't plan in a day-to-day competition where we're at you know think six months ago where we didn't expect that any crisis was going to respond we weren't going to utilize you and it is still give you and your units time to spin up to the high end in spin part of that would be ready for dynamic force employment for immediate response force by doing certification exercises bringing those back but the idea would be to spin you up and not use you until you get back ready for the available to commit again 24 month cycle six months per phase and it needs both the low end the fight or think rotational concern current contingency operations or all the way to full spectrum combat training what that does though is if we stick to this and it's gonna be difficult to do that but if we stick to this ultimately we're offering slightly less capability to the joint force now in order to build capability and readiness for the high end fight of the future it's a not an easy fight there's all you know air force like you highlighted on the previous couple slides is in demand and so we need to make sure the joint staff is disciplined in their use of scarce resources LDHD low density high-demand assets in order to build that way next slide please and I should have asked in the beginning I'll plan on just going through it's a big audience on that side listening so I'll plan on going through the slides here the next few slides and then we can stop and hopefully take some questions that you go have so I'm on the forces we present to co-cons this is a little bit of a busy slide but as I mentioned we're changing what we present to the joint force and this is what I'm gonna go over here a little bit on the slide but we're also changing how we rotate or how we generate that force through the 24 month cycle right the four phases that I just highlighted they go hand in hand when we present forces we need to make sure we present not only for the low end of the fight right we've done that pretty well over the last 20 years when we need to make sure it's ready and ace capable we're going to present multiple capable airmen they could execute easily disperse so that's a change right there's a change coming there also we need to be able to sustainably generate how many airmen we can supply and so that's where I'll go into the lake the Lego model here that you see in the in the middle the generate the mission is actually the easiest part of that fortune it's already in execution in FY 23 will be completely IOC with all our mission gen force elements and you can think the mission gen force elements as fighter squadrons bombers ISR any of the tip of the spear that is touching the you know the other end will be highlighted in here but we're an old you'd have a fighter squadron ordered but and then a maintenance squadron be ordered separately as a different UTC and then the Intel that goes associated with that the ACS that is associated with those that squadron they're all gonna be tied into one but again very easy problem to solve and we've already built it if you had 48 fighter squadrons you know this is just an example you divide those up amongst the four phases and you'd have 12 squadrons in each phase that would be a sustainable capacity moving around again those are done now but established the airbase and the operate the airbase are a little bit more difficult and it's really for two reasons one we want to build a capability that we provide the joint force so take the established airbase that established the airbase is going to come from one wing it into the max extent possible and if it comes from one wing and it's married up with the command control force element from that same wing you can think that you're gonna have the leadership potentially from a generate a mission generation from the same wing you're gonna have all the requirements needed to quickly disperse for one location from your home station and move into theater and you're able to train together so for the first time we're hoping by building the established the airbase the ACS airmen as well convests or from one wing that we're gonna be able to train and be able to have units ready to execute ace and we're gonna talk about that here more in a second you can see what's highlighted it's really what the joint force calls boss I but it's you know anything that you need to operate one to two missions in force elements for for 30 to 60 days from a civilian location as we move and again established the airbase will be from one conus wing ideally or it could be a pay-com or indo the Yukon assigned as we move into the operate the airbase that's where you're gonna see that as we get make make wings toy downrange bigger we can't shut down shaw air force base if we took 600 airmen from shaw air force base it wouldn't be able to execute this mission at home station and so you see we'll still crowd source some airmen in order to fulfill the operate in the robust the airbase but that core of the established airbase will be ready to go I highlight this and maybe one more thing just to highlight real quick we we as an Air Force if I'm gonna talk to the joint force and say hey I have in my example 48 fighter squadrons it's really easy to say hey you need 12 in that ready phase and you need 12 in the available to commit when I look at our ACS airmen across the spectrum it's much more difficult to communicate how many security forces airmen we have because we need some security force airmen that are from home stations we need some that are guarding missile fields out in my not we need some that are deploying to out you deed what is that sustainable capacity for security forces it's a very difficult puzzle and it's really hard to communicate so the joint staff again moving if we can set hey and establish the airbase there's 69 68 rather security forces in that establish the airbase force element I can clearly define how many established air bases I can build and I can communicate that to the joint staff next slide please so as we you know kind of went through a piece of this and I already covered this a little bit as we look into the future you know General Gustav continues to highlight here to the inside the building and to the joint force team that we need to one be able to generate air power across the globe and we need to drive a cost imposing strategy to our competitors right those two things are critical and how are we going to do that if you look in PSAB in 1991 it's efficient right if you can give a bunch of airmen on one locale it's a very efficient way to execute airpower but it's not very survival it worked in the PSAB example right where we had complete air dominance but in the future with different missiles that could target the base and the light it's not necessarily survival and so on the right you can see the hub and spoke concepts of ace and ace is definitely still a nascent concept it's being developed all the way out and pack up to your safety as well as the absent and ACC the light but it's still nascent the idea behind this is we need to be able to change the way we posture forces across the globe and we need leaders like you to inform you know how we most effectively execute ace right so again like I highlighted where there's ongoing efforts with multiple capable airmen where they're no longer dis-trained to one AFSC's worth of the missions that midi mission says that they're gonna perform whether they're a maintainer and they can will do security force duties as well across the spectrum right that will make us lighter and leader and able to disperse much faster very similarly we're examining AFIs and you guys are going to be at the tip of the spear on on that making sure that we have instructions to our airmen that most officially use the resources highlighted we're changing the mission essential task list of units to make sure they're trained for ace so there's a lot coming within the next two years that you guys are to be again at the at the leading edge of that Europeans and next slide so you know that in the previous slide you saw the breakdown of Japan look at the hub and spoke and that's what you see there on the left you know the traditional classic definition of posture it's what the joint force sees us now right you have Indo-pecom and Indo-pecom forces being used in that AOR but we need to change the way the joint force in the air force thinks about local posture which is with you move to the right you can see the main operating locations or the hubs and this is a notional example plus the multiple ready and warm bases across the globe there that are the spokes but we also have forces from other combat commands that can execute moving rapidly from sent common to Indo-pecom this example plus we have forces that are going to be highly trained and ready with their boss I in ECS to move into theater to different locations so think the immediate response force again that a new concept developed in the 2018 national defense strategy as well as dynamic force employment a more dynamic presence vice-a-static presence that allows airmen the white space to train as well I highlight that you know she best highlighted hope when I when I cut off a five and so you know this is where we see the future going for the future fight in in that's not only to support the now the readiness and the fight that the now right right in front of us but to go deep into the future and so I'll stop there on the the brief and in why we open up questions then and then if there's time at the end while I'm not general bestella giving his views on leadership I'm happy to share a few of my thoughts on leadership so so over you all go on me for a second if there's any questions we can go from there Sir Chief Slatt from soccer quick question on as you talk about the the Air Force Force Jen and going through the cycles and the lead wing concept for the support is there any or what's the vision or the look I guess on are we how are we gonna have to change the force lay down on in the conus bases to set up that support to make it seamless across what what wing is the lead wing over yeah so I mean that's a really good question and we're working through so those specific items right now so ultimately as we define and take units or capability mission in capability we we bring them into the different phases we're gonna find some gaps and seams where we need to change the amount of maintenance airmen supporting those mission Jen on that cycle you know that we're gonna have to change and so we're gonna work with our a1 partners here in the building and there's gonna be two to three years of change gonna occur you know with with you I don't want to get too much of the weeds but with our program element codes pack and then how we align those whether they're thick one or two for those of you in the room that are familiar there's gonna be changes that occur in order to enable after Jen but in reality I think more of those changes are gonna be enabling the high-end fight of East ace really that answer that question I hope good afternoon sir it's chief Simeon from 773 logistics readiness squadron as we mentioned an effort Jen and the packages that's going forward the question I asked is that are we also considering the logistics and mobility piece of it when we activate a base and remove X amount of fires fighter squadrons and every there'll be a large logistics packages that goes with that with the logistics packages also be activated simultaneously or sat in consideration during development of this plan yeah that's a also really good question I appreciate it so really two pieces to that in like I highlighted when we move and establish the air base the airmen that come from one wing whether it's shot or Scott right we cannot close down Scott Air Force Base and shut down one of our hubs right our logistics clubs equally we can't shut down Scott and so we divide as we're afpc is working on this right now and that's not an easy it's an elegant solution I guess is the right word we need to make sure that we enable the ability to move logistics packages forward very rapidly but we cannot shut down our main operating hubs here in the U.S. thanks Scott right Travis in the like so that's one piece of it the second piece is if we're going to have warm bases and I don't want to get too much into a five to eight slain but if we're going to have ready bases warm bases that are ace capable right if we're going to be able to disperse very very quickly between hugs and spokes there has to be some level of equipment preposition right preposition stock preposition k-loaders fuelers gas munitions at those locations that that takes money right and that takes investment in order to have that but that will enable us also to move very very rapidly there's host nation considerations posture that we're working through right now across the globe but we're focusing a lot on endopic arms a war to enable that so it's really kind of a two-fold answer to your question but the highlight want to say is when we built these force elements and this has been tried before in the past right it was very not similar but it was akin to AF next if you remember that and that really failed uh we've built an elegant solution here to make sure we don't close down our conus base in our you know our permanent bases right lake and heat and light to enable this structure we are not going to shut down like the army if you look at an army brigade when they leave you know for bliss for bliss will shut down as the division moves out we can't do that air power doesn't work that way and so we have a you know i can set this three times now so i won't say it again well it's an elegant solution i think it's a very easy solution for our airmen to understand and they'll see that in execution some of this when we're talking about enabling established air base not operate the air base uh we're working through that now it's going to go into effect at fy 24 and so we have a little bit of breathing room and we're practicing that uh also with uh as i think you mentioned in the last question acc's the leadway so we'll see some of that in fy 23 as they practice and so there's going to be iterations you know there's going to be changes and i'll throw that back at you who better to know what those changes are than that our chiefs out there are working with our airmen uh and so uh i'll put the onus back on you so a little bit sir good afternoon this is senior castillo i'm a air advisor out of traverse air force base so the question of looking at your model looks like a lot of the same right well have you done in the past trying to get buckets and trying to get bins and trying to get timbal bands and all that my question to you sir is like how does a small team element fit into this model such as advisors going into a certain combatant command and standing up in airfield for whatever it is you would need to and have them do how does that fit into this model and has that been considered yeah and so if we have the if you don't mind put up the forces we present to go come slide uh and unfortunately this is a little bit of a uh it's not older slide but it doesn't have all the data on there there are uh some things we call them demand force teams or dfts and they are we're building those to go and be presented in the app origin model so if we build eight demand force teams of capability x they will also rotate around the model but they are really teams that can go out separate from the mission j in separate from the established air base and so think in e-meds a medical capability that could go uh to an austere location it could go to a navy base like these are demand force teams that can go outside we'll define the number of the e-meds that we can build uh which is underway right now right even the e-meds have a good example because we've been really using our medical capacity to support the public response but we'll define what that can you know what how many we can generate at a sustainable capacity in the model in order to execute very similarly air advisors we've actually just recently had that discussion on how do we build that how do we pull those because a lot of air advisors are coming directly from mission jim squadrons and the like depending on you know we're in in these other force elements how do we separate it i think mission for air advisors we don't have the answer yet uh to be blunt we just talked about it is for two weeks ago uh and so we are working with the fam currently uh in the team here in e3 tr in order to build that one out so i don't have specifics uh that's a gap that we're still working hey sir uh senior adragus from off at air force base so you mentioned the lead wing concepts and the it's a new way of doing business for a high-end fight of future and then you also talked about multi capable airman a little bit and uh so at off at you know we kind of from a cyber perspective we we've demonstrated that we're able to take a help desk technician and in less than three years turn them into a a cyber operator to defend the the terrain in support of the cyber train in support of our one of our is our platforms um so that's that's good news my question to you is um with the lead wing and everything you've discussed so far you know how we do business how we employ our forces um what new technology is going to come with that um because it from everything that i'm i've seen so far we're still using yesterday's technology the same stuff we use when we went to iraq and things like that so if we're going to use yesterday's technology to employ a new way employing a new way of business uh how how effective is that really thank you so that is a zinger of a question it's a really good question uh and i appreciate it so i'm gonna tap dance for a little bit and you know tell you from the e3 lens what we're looking at and then maybe i'll punch some of that to the a8 as we're looking at buying for the future right and so let's there's in the e3 we're gonna you know have execution how do we employ right what's the concept of employment and some of that goes to logistics under attack how do we make sure we have our supply lines that can go from location x to y uh be survivable right and that will drive new requirements uh and within those requirements is going to require new technical solutions right and so that's really the requirements driving the demand we see that very similarly as we're starting to peel back and look at ace right uh if we're going to execute ace and very quickly disperse what level of technology do we need in order to share a c2 network that's you know a take a what you think of as a traditional name it let's say fighter squadron right and you break it into four different pieces in a calm and denied environment one of the technical solutions and the new technology that'd be able to support the communication so they can continue to execute and aggregate and generate combat power with need right and so there's calm networks that are being looked at in kind of your example those are requirements deriving demand right but uh in driving the new technology there's also movement about what the technology that will enable future ways to uh employ right and so there's more to come on that and so i kind of hit a little bit of that question but i didn't answer that one fully that's a good question i think a8 probably is the better one to answer that one hey sir senior westling ramstein airbase given the tensions in ukraine and the european theater in general uh and the real world operations and exercises currently taking place i was just hoping you could share your opinion on the current state of ace concepts of operation what are we doing well what do we need to do better in your opinion over yeah so i mean there's a lot going on right now let me first highlight uh a4 gen and then i'll touch on the uh the eighth side of that question so if we're going to offer a sustainable capacity uh and i'm on the a4 gen slide if you don't mind going back to it if you're looking at the right there we have only so much in the available to commitment right and that's well where we want to execute as an air force we only want to offer whatever it is you name the mission gen force element or you name the amount of acs airman you you gotten you know established airbase that's what we can sustainably generate but we also are ready for a crisis response and so we're going to have the next phase in the hopper that's already trained for the high end there may not have trained with other units right with other mission gen force elements that are you know in that six month period think red flags or green flags but they're going to be fairly capable and ready and they may be a c3 or c2 state moving as they continue through that well we're right there at right now in this time space when we look at ukraine we're looking at options to pull things forward out of the ready and move them into the available if required and so that's our our model has to be flexible there also has to be very very disciplined and we only dip into that ready phase when it's a crisis response right which potentially ukraine could be an option as as we look at ace in different concepts of employment ace is actually developing different in the different aores right where you see the hub and spoke in pat calf you look at you know western basing network in sitcom or in ucom you look at you know our allies and partners it's going to be different for every aor depending on you know you know the atmospherics the what the competitor or competition looks like and so you know i wouldn't i don't want to go too much into ukraine and talking about specific operations because that's a higher classification than we're on right now but it affects how we're going to employ forces and how we can rapidly get them into theater if required i dodged a little bit of the last ace question but hopefully it put a little bit of perspective at least on the aft porch inside and how we're reacting to ukraine how you doing sir senior albers from a joint base for harbour you mentioned a few years the air forces can look different within the next 15 years with this whole mcu mca concept going in at the unit level we're being asked to develop the ttps to go in and to see make this concept work and try to bring it together is anything you're looking at as far as the afis to give us that leeway to go against some of the doctrines that we've been risk averse with the last 20 years i can't sign red x is unless you're this count downgrade red x can't pull parts because i need 2005 and stuff like that are we developing anything right now to give us that authority to be able to develop these ttps that we need to make mca work yeah so i absolutely love that question uh and and bottom line we're not there yet uh but we are moving out on that and so really there's two two things that are changing one the chief staff of the air force has highlighted he wants to look at every single unit in the air force and re assess their mission essential task list right we can't ask airmen and units to execute old ways of fighting and then ask them to do the new ways of fighting as well right to put it simply because generically for all the different units out there right we're all different but so we need to go through and review all our mission essential task lists and that's underway right now a three tr sister division here that we work with quite a bit to enable a virgin they're underway doing that review that's about a eight month effort for all and that's a lot of work on the match comes right so for for you all of you that are going to the match comes are already there you've probably already seen that if you're in the three t realm the second piece of that question right if you're looking at changing the mission essential task list at the unit level well we've had you know i wouldn't say a fight but we've had some pretty good heated battles with our components think africa afscent usafie where they're ordering up forces to be deployed to their aor and they're following our afis and our afis are the gold standard don't let anyone fool you if they want acs airmen or they want boss i or they want sector four they want the air force period dot and i'm saying they is the joint force of talking about because we have the gold standard in afis and we need to make sure every red x is dotted crossed and teed and we train our airmen very very well but our airmen are really adaptable too right and so we might be able to get a little more uh you know innovation out of them if you will and i'm not you know i don't like these networks too much but if we give them the ability uh to change or to go through those afis and say hey can we really need to do this in this location i know this is the gold standard but if we want to be able to be light and mean and disperse very very quickly sometimes we're not going to have the gold standard and sometimes we can use multiple capable airmen that are not trained all the way up to a hundred percent but they're at sixty percent and we're willing to take risk right i think the chip the chip the chief is willing to take risk it needs to be calculated methodical risk but we need to communicate it right and we're a peacetime right and we need to communicate it but there are ways to make sure we can execute the mission execute it better uh in in and change the afis and give the airmen the ability to change the afis and so we're that was a long winded dancer you got me excited there i don't know if you could tell that but you got me a little excited but we're working with fans here in the building to go and scrub our afis uh and it's going to take a while right this is not an overnight this is not a two month thing there's going to be back and forth as we build the sports elements the bago slide i showed you as we build those that will kind of be to snap the chalk line and go okay from this now let's look at ways to change those afis and build those multiple capable airmen right and move forward so really good question uh and hey sir senior master arm power from uh scott got a question uh we we uh recently see that uh with the covid-19 vaccine issues and the extended extending of people over in the aor that dav 80 ones became an issue how is that going to impact this new a4 gen model because we know it's it's almost breaking the model we already have now and and the ability to provide forces whether they're dfts or whatnot yeah so that's kind of a two-part question covid was very difficult on our current uh i'm gonna write dav 81 down so i don't forget to connect that but covid was a very difficult uh you know straight on our current model we had airmen both on the ac and the rc side that were stuck in theater for a long time and then the next wave of airmen on their p bands were coming in you know three months late right and now they only do a three month appointment it messed up the cycle for the next rotation so there's a lot of perturbations and you know where airmen felt the pain of covid so that was kind of one one end of it very similarly we have line remarks from our components saying hey we need this airmen to be x y z uh you know in a perfect fit right it kind of going back to the last question we need a master sergeant you know with this color hair in order to come do this job right we have too many of the line remarks very similarly now we have a lot of DAF codes that are restricting the pool of airmen that we have and so i i kind of highlight those because all three of those have the name the same net effect which is are you know our supply of airmen app or gym when we built that we did not look at the demand the chief uh and the sec app were very clear we're building a supply base model don't worry about combat commands demand build a supply base model we'll come back to what that commands demand is eventually but what do we have in our pool and let's define our pool let's make sure that we you know we get rid of all those line remarks let's find a hey here is an airmen that can execute that mission is trained to these mission essential tasks but it may not be the perfect line remark and so in that point 23 we have told the components that line remarks and they're not happy and i understand part of the reason why but line remarks are gone we're also equally going to the force providers at acc and amc and working on the DAF code so there's we need to define what our capacity is and then make sure we put in the force gen model to go out part of that if you will look uh in a you know take a week 100 percent of their acs airmen right the the think of the msg run on the basin line we're going to retain 20 percent of those airmen skyer force base 20 percent of those will always you know the billets relation say the faces but 20 percent of the airmen will be at skyer force base the remaining 80 percent 20 percent will go in each face right and we're working to see if you see it might be tweaked a little bit here and there but if you can envision 20 percent in the ready phase 20 percent available to commit 20 percent uh in the reset in the life and you'll always have 20 percent at home and so that will give wing commanders and senior enlisted leaders the ability to flex and so if there are DAF codes right there out there you're not gonna you'll be able to take the billet or the face that's in one of those billets and move them in uh for you know if someone got hurt or the liking kind of swap them out sir senior rinita from herbert field so for the aphrogen it seems like it's going to hit ops a lot differently than it's going to hit support and we're kind of seeing that a little bit in aphsoc right now so it's a lot easier when your main mission at home station is training and preparing and getting called for your downrange but for personnel for calm finance we have a huge home station mission that doesn't necessarily even translate to our down station mission or downrange mission so are you guys looking at at all how we get manpower credit and is that going to be adjusted because right now we get credit for the commit phase because prepare and ready we're actually doing our home station mission while we're doing that but under this model they're going to be away from their desk the majority if not all of the time for those 12 months leading up and they're not going to be available to update personnel pay records and promotion records and provide calm support so are we looking at how we're going to mitigate that home station mission or adjust manpower credit so we can keep our guys going because for us our weapons are our people and they can only be stretched so far hey that was a great input in question so so when you say credit I think I know what you're intending there let's first kind of look at a couple things let's take uh let's take Travis Air Force Base right or even better an example I already use is Minot Air Force Base and let's talk first security forces they have an employment mission so it's called Employed in Place EIP mission at Minot Air Force Base there are you know I'm making this number up but there's 300 cops that are guarding the nuclear fields that we cannot take right we got to continue to guard the nuclear field so we're not going to take them away and so it wouldn't be fair and again these are made up numbers that Minot Airport that has 500 cops and we take 400 of them and rotate and now we stress them out trying to do that Employed in Place mission right because 300 are needed to guard the fields so what we would do is say hey that 300 is offset we're not going to use those security forces that are guarding those fields but we are going to take the remaining 200 and put it in the phase right for example that would be similar to to personalists right I would I would argue that there is a home station mission for mission gen for airmen in individual training right so a personalist getting ready for a deployment in our current model still has individual training that he or she needs to get ready in the spin up cycle as they may move forward it may not be until very close to the end of right prior to their deployment but there are requirements but like you said there's also the home station mission so I think we'll need to clearly define where you know as we say we take 20 percent of personalists out and they deploy and then they need to spin up with their team for the EAB right because there's personalists in the EAB we're going to need to find you know as we we set those meters when we go this many airmen this many personnel list will be going down range and this is the mountain that need to come from that base we're going to have to define you know what that right thermometer gauge is over time because of the home station mission requirements and still meeting that but again there are some employed in place missions that we no need to occur that we've already accounted for in the model and either boring you to death or have answered all your questions I'm going to go with the latter I talked to Chief Vass a little bit today and you know if we go to the end slide you know views on leadership from General Gostela one don't suck but I can't get in his mind and give you know what would have been a really great perspective from a senior leader here in the building so I thought I'd give you what I saw I was a flu virus for the Air Force and you know from a a fire pilots perspective of you know what did I what did I like what did I see in our invested leaders in the fair you know from a fire squadron perspective I didn't have as many touch points with our listed personnel as I wish I would have had it with my career but what I would say for me is professional hunger and focus right we need that from our leaders and we need to instill that down and that should be based on merit right there's a lot of discussion going on on you know whether it's racism you know things with gender we should be basing it on merit and so I've always a professional focus and hunger based on merit the second thing would be an added attitude higher gratitude trained for skill right you can always train airmen that you hire for the attitude because that's what we need we need moral courage do what's right too many times airmen are not doing what's right and we need to go after them right if it's malicious as leaders we need to go on and change that they do equally if they make a mistake we need to protect those airmen because we need a culture where mistakes if we're going to take risks right talking about that we're going to take risks we are going to make mistakes and we need to protect our airmen that are parts in the right place trying to make change and make some mistake right and that's going to occur but when it's malicious you need to make sure you go after it and then a final thing I would say for leadership is be human and be transparent right and so there's too many times I've seen leaders where they don't have you know engage and and let airmen know what you think right and so when I was the commander making decisions I would be very transparent in my decisions and I would tell what and why I made the decisions show the rationale from A to Z of why I did that because I had time to do it and it helped leaders underneath me grow I hopefully built trust with them because when I needed to make a very very quick decision and I wasn't transparent your airmen will trust you and follow you right and then let's go I trust that person because I know how they think so just a couple I know you all been in our air force for a long time and you have great perspectives that's just coming from a kernel on kind of where I've been to my leadership and moving forward so let's there's any questions on that and I think I'm up out of time thank you for one having me again General Gustel would have liked to be here and so I apologize on his behalf he couldn't control the changes there hopefully that answers some questions if you have more on aphorjin and I hope you do and I hope you have spears to throw at aphorjin let us know right let your manage comms A3s know and we'll work it right because there's changes and and we're going to iterate on this to be better as an air force so without that I'll go on mute unless anyone else has anything for me if they put my mic back on thank you Conor Han for stepping in thank you so very much sir