 Good evening, good morning, wherever you are. Maybe it's the middle of the night. I am not sure. I hope everyone is doing great. We have, I guess a smaller crowd than we usually do this evening. So we have myself, Sarah and Julie and Aowyn who are Wikitree team members. Then we have Christine who is our team captain for Thomas's week. And then we have Mindy over there who is the overall Wikitree challenge coordinator. And that is all we have right now. For those of you, Thomas probably won't be here. He might pop in the end. We're not sure. We had a prior engagement, but we got answers for you though. We got answers. But for those of you who maybe have popped in and don't know what Wikitree even is, what is Wikitree? Well, Julie will tell you. I will be happy to tell you. Wikitree is a community of genealogists and we work together on a single family tree. Unlike a lot of other genealogy sites where you might build your tree and I build my tree and we never talk to each other, even though we have the same ancestor up here on Wikitree when we get to that ancestor, we work together on them to find information, share sources and resolve discrepancies. In other words, we collaborate. It's a key word on Wikitree. We work together to grow an accurate single family tree and that connects all of us. And the best part, it's free. We love Wikitree. It's great. Now, maybe you know what Wikitree is but you don't know what the Wikitree challenge is. Well, I will tell you. The Wikitree challenge is our year long event where each week we take a team of Wikitree years, takes on a genealogy guest star tree. For instance, this week, we're gonna be starting Thomas McKenzie's tree and our goal is to make it more accurate and complete than it is anywhere else. And this challenge is part of our year of accuracy and our goal is to improve our accuracy on Wikitree, make more connections and more friends. And that is the Wikitree challenge. And if anybody has any questions throughout our livecast, please post them in the chat and we will answer them. And I guess we will just go on from there. So there you are. Sarah, can I give one shout out before you keep going? Yes, what is the shout out? I saw in the chat that Melissa Lamaster Barker is here. She's known as the Archive Lady and she is gonna be one of our guest stars coming up. Yay! Oh, welcome, Melissa. Thanks for watching. She's gonna see a sneak peek of what will happen when she's on here. It's very scary. Yes, we will get in. We'll get in on your tree, tear it apart, put it back together. No, kind of, but. Sort of. Sort of, more or less. Just make it better. That's our goal, to make it accurate. Like, all right. So Mindy, are you gonna move on to some stats in collaboration for us? We can't hear you, Mindy. You're muted. Unmute. Gotcha. Okay, let's talk about collaboration since that's one of our favorite wiki tree words. The different ways we collaborate during this challenge. Now, we have a spreadsheet that you have your name on if you're signed up and registered. You can put the profile that you're working on. Now, normally we don't have a problem very often with two people working on a profile, but this is such a big event. We don't want five people jumping in there and trying to edit it once. So you just put the profile down you're working on when you're ready to take a break for a day, you go ahead and delete it out of there so somebody else gets a shot at it. We have on the right hand side, you see the G2G post. That's where you can put, you'll definitely wanna put any bounty points, a brick wall you broke down. That's a 10 point gain, really nice. But also other discoveries or questions that you have about somebody on that particular great-grandfather's line. Now, this is Discord and sometimes Discord really gets hoppin. We get a lot of people in there. You can go in and say, hey, I need help finding this record, where do I find it? Or will somebody look at this document and see if it really does prove the relationship? I think it does. Sometimes you just wanna go in there and cheer people on and say, hey, great job, nice profile and keep everybody motivated. So we all, we work together and we chat in there and that's all real-time chat. Keeps everybody going. Different forms of participation. Now, for people that don't wanna research and we see people say this from time to time, oh, I'm not gonna help that week. I don't know anything about German records or I don't know anything about French records. Well, there's different ways you can participate. If you're not researching, you can be adding the children that somebody has listed in a biography. You can go in, take the sources that are added to the profile that somebody else put there and write a narrative. So write a story out that brings that person to life. You can do newspaper lookups if you have a subscription for people. We get that quite a bit, which is really nice. You can go in and fix the errors or suggestions that are on that particular line because we do wanna keep this as accurate as possible. So, Mindy, how would one, because I know we're getting points for this challenge, how would, how does the points work? I know we're tracking everything, but what gets points? Right, and once again, the biggest points are breaking down a brick wall. So the first time you break a brick wall down on a line, you get 10 points for the new ancestors and that's generally the father and mother. So if I have John Smith and I find his parents and the guests didn't know about him, that's 20 points, 10 points for each. Now, the other way that you can get points, and this adds up quicker than you would think, is adding the profiles for those nuclear family members. So siblings, children, adding a spouse, those things each get you one point and that the system keeps track of. Alish pulls a report and we get those numbers automatically. And then he said the bounty hunters get 10 points, right? They each get 10 points and then, but we are tracking all of the edits. And then there's one, we have more. And that one was showing another way that you can contribute. Now, we had a laying leather roll that had a power outage during the storms and everybody was just trying to make it through the severe storms. And since she couldn't get on and do the research, she asked if she could do drawings of any of the buildings. You know, perhaps a picture of a building that's copyright protected. And I just happened to have found a church that this man, ancestor was married in, but also his children were all baptized and he had up to nine children. They were all baptized in the same church. And she drew this beautiful sketch out and that's when the church was new before. It's all landscape now. You can hardly see the building now in modern times, but that's what it looked like when it first went up and just really an incredible gift to that guest. And then the free space pages too, I don't know. Yes, and each one of the guests week has a free space page. That way, if say we get permission from them to use their pictures from the other site or they have something at home already scanned up, they wanna donate. That's another way that you can help is offer to go ahead and get those attached to that free space page uploaded and then, you know, try and start linking them to the profiles that they belong to. There's a lot of ways to participate that aren't research. And then these are different free space pages that somebody made for a paper mill and then also an engagement party where they linked everybody who attended, which I thought was pretty cool, I think. And I think I saw some questions in the chat. I'm not sure. I think somebody was asking, what are bounty hunters? Karen kind of answered, but do you wanna go over? Bounty hunters? The bounty hunters, now once again, we keep track of those bounty points and your regular points, but for the bounty points specifically, that would be the person during that week that earned the most bounty points. They get the bounty hunter badge on their profile. Cool. And actually, surprisingly enough, we have had a different bounty hunter and an MVP every week. So a most valuable player, the one with the most points, has been different. It hasn't been one person getting it two or three weeks in a row. So I thought that was kind of cool. Because everybody has their strengths for each week because there's different countries where each of our genealogy guest stars have been in, I guess. And yes, Nancy, we are getting, who is Thomas? Who is this person that- We'll get there soon. We'll get there soon. And then I also saw, I think somebody was asking, how do they get their list on this wiki tree challenge to get their brick walls busted? Well, this is more for, how do I phrase this? Well, we're focusing, right now, we're focusing on genealogy stars within the genealogy community. So a couple weeks ago, we had Dr. Henry Lewis Gates Jr. We've had Judy Russell. Thomas is a pretty well-known figure in genealogy. And so we invited him. And at this point, that's what we're focusing on because we figure if we're working on their families, it's gonna expand. And because we're a single family tree, it's gonna end up working on, it's gonna end up affecting everybody else's branches as well. And like Lucy says, influencers. So if they're talking about wiki tree, because we did such a great job on their tree, then more people will be like, hey, this wiki tree is kind of great. So let's get on here. And so that's what we're doing. That's the main goal of the wiki tree challenge, working on these stars, influencers, and the genealogy community to get our name out there. So, so far. So far, this is what we've done so far. We actually took a rest week this past week. So we didn't have a special guest. We kind of cut everybody loose and let them go back and work on things that they found interesting from our past guests or maybe their own families or maybe get caught up on their email. But we wanna just give you a rundown of what we've done so far over the past five weeks, six weeks. Seven, seven? I don't know, I can't, it's the worst day to me. Thank you. Seven weeks, six guest stars. So we've had six guest stars. We've had 171 wiki treeers registered for working on the challenge so far. And with all of that, they've created 36 ancestors for our guests. They've created 823 new relatives for them on wiki tree with a total of 3,485 profiles being edited, meaning they've been touched in some way, improved, cleaned up, had sources added, errors corrected, so on and so forth. So that's pretty good. There's a little teeny typo. I think it's supposed to be 326 ancestors created. Oops, I was gonna say 36 didn't sound enough, like enough. Darn. 326 sounds a whole lot better. Close, yes. Yes, I like 326 better. That's the number of, at least some of those were brick walls that were knocked down. So that was exciting. We've been doing great and all those profiles edited also don't include like the free space pages that people have worked on separately. They don't, and all the things that people are doing on the side. So a lot of work has gone into these trees and these guest stars. So it's great and we'll fix that typo later. That's what we're all about, fixing mistakes, right? Yeah. If there was a suggestion, this would be a suggestion. On this slide. So now you want to know who Thomas is and we will tell you who is Thomas. Well, Thomas McKinty, whose name I've just, I can, I almost butcher it every time I say it, but it is McKinty. Was he, he may pop in later, but he had a previous engagement that he couldn't get out of. So we're gonna just kind of fill in for him and let you know a little bit about him. He has done so much in the genealogy community. He has, he's a genealogy professional. He's a social media connector, a marketer, a blogger, a network builder, and I can't even tell you how much more. He's very well known in the genealogy community. He got started with all of this after being laid off from a 25 year long career in information technology. So when that happened, he started his own business called High Definition Genealogy. And then he also started a website called genealogybargans.com where he shares a lot of really cool deals that you might benefit from and, you know, subscriptions to different websites and other thrifty things like that. And kind of to sum up Thomas in his own words, he says, I see things differently than most in the genealogy field. I'm almost never content with the status quo. That doesn't mean I chase after change just for the sake of change, but when I see an opportunity to improve something and to bring more people into the genealogy sphere, that's where you'll find me. And now Sarah and Mindy are going to conduct an interview with Thomas in absentia. And I just wanted to point out for people who might not know and he says, he's never content with the status quo. He is always, you know, he always has different color, hair, mohawk. And a Hawaiian shirt. Yes. Hawaiian shirt. I was hoping that maybe one of us could be that, but that didn't happen. We thought it was gonna be you, Sarah. I would have, you know, I could have did my hair in a mohawk. I could have. None of us were willing to get our hair cut. So. So A-O-N is going to embody Thomas at this moment. She was there. I'm ready. Okay. So, Thomas. Oh wait, this is. Next slide. Oh, this is little, this is little, just so you guys can see. It's to start with all of his great grandparents history. So. What got you interested in genealogy? I was a 14 year old boy staying with my great grandparents and the mini series Roots came on television in February 1977. We would watch each episode and then talk about our own family history afterwards. And the next question is, who is your favorite ancestor? Anna T. McPhillips. She's a mystery wrapped in an enigma. I started with a photograph and was able to research her short and sad life. Side note, she is not on wiki tree yet, but we did find her elsewhere. So she does actually exist. I guess we gotta add her, Thomas. Gotta add her to wiki tree. That's what we're here for, right? So do you have any interesting stories to share with us, Thomas, with your long history? After over 40 years of researching, nothing surprises me. Here's what I've learned. The second child and all subsequent children arrive at nine months. The first child can come at any time. Marriage records usually contain the most lies of any vital records. Family history without sources is mythology. Knowledge is to be shared and not hoarded. Not everything is free, including genealogy records, access, educational content and stuff found on the internet. In order to receive the next good thing coming your way, you must have an open hand palm up. You can't get there if you're constantly holding on to what you have. Wise, very wise. 40 years, not for nothing. Okay, and when did you first discover wiki tree? I think it was back in 2009 or 2010. The concept of a global family tree intrigued me, especially when wiki tree tricked it out with the unique features such as asking permission to merge profiles and the genealogy honor code. Side note, Thomas was actually very helpful for us back around that time period. He did a lot to promote us. And if you look at our blog, some of the very earliest blog posts are by Thomas. He's a, so he's a big fan of wiki tree. He's a fan. He's a fan. I'm a fan. So who are your current, what are your current brick walls? Gustav Hennemburg, my third great-grandfather who arrived in Germany in 1891 and settled on the Lower East Side of Manhattan, New York. That's his profile. It doesn't look like it's unsourced. Oh man. Oh man. It's not sourced. Oh goodness. Well, that's another one we'll need to work on. Yeah. Okay. And so what do you hope to see in participating in the wiki tree challenge? I'm always curious about how genealogists come together, especially now in a virtual world due to the COVID pandemic. And when coming together, what are the best dynamics to encourage sharing and collaboration? Are there any mysteries in your family that you have not been able to solve? Yes. How and when did my third great-grandfather, Edward McKinty, McKinty arrive from Ireland and settle in Ooster County, New York? McKinty line. Wow. That was not much there. Nope. Well, thank you, Thomas, for doing this interview with us. Yeah. Happy to be here. So I think someone was saying that we can date his photos by his air color. I saw that in the... That's probably true. Okay. I think it's red right now. Now when we... I only could have done it orange. When we were showing the eight great-grandparents, which is where we start working on our guest tree and work our way out, that's just the beginning for us, but it's not the beginning for Thomas's story. And he already has a lot of lines, as you can see, built out. These are all surnames. He's already found on his branches, but if you're participating in the challenge, don't let that scare you off, because when you start climbing through the branches and looking at them, there are a lot of places that can be worked on. So I think Christine is the team captain and she's got some things to share. I am so excited for this week. I know I've been watching everybody get through all of these first weeks and everybody kind of saying, oh, I don't know how to work on stuff and I don't know what to do. This is the week. If you want to work on one of these challenges, this is it, because we have everything. We have lots of different countries. We have not... I wouldn't say a lot of variety in the States. Everything seems to be New England, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and then the province of New York and province of New Jersey in those very early days. A lot of his lines go back into pre-1700s, pre-1500s if anybody wanted to work on any of that. Of course, once you get across into Europe, we have Germany profiles, we have Austria, we have Ireland, we have Scotland, we have England. We're going to need translations, I'm sure. We're going to need all sorts of things. A lot, I would say most of the profiles that I have looked at so far are all GEDCOM import. So we need GEDCOM cleanups. We need sources that are not just random ancestry links. We need tons of stuff, tons of stuff. We need bios, I need people who to write up awesome biographies. I expect that everybody's going to find lots of different newspaper articles and just tons of things. We have a lot of women in the tree that are unknown last day of their birth. So that would be great to find out. I don't expect a lot of adding up again as far as back in time because some of his lines, one of his lines goes back, what was it, to 1194. So I don't think we're going to be doing a lot of that kind of work. There are definitely closer brick walls that we need to work on, but a lot of the couples only have the one child. There's no siblings and then no spouses. So there's a lot of nuclear families that have to be created and put onto Lucky Tree, including Anna Phillips, who is in the Austin line, if anybody has looked at that. I have created a bunch of maintenance categories. So if anybody wants to use the maintenance categories for needs of birth record, death record, needs a biography, please feel free to use those. They're under the Lucky Tree challenge maintenance categories. Free space pages I need. I need a lot of Dutch help. I have a lot of New Netherlands and Dutch Roots project profiles. A lot of them are project protected. There's also pedigree collapse. I have a lot of repeat ancestors. So one of my questions to myself, and I don't think I'm going to answer it, was how many different ways is Thomas related to himself? Because he has similar ancestors on multiple different lines. So yeah, I'm really excited and I know everybody is fantastic and I just know that we're going to really do an amazing, amazing job. And if anybody has any questions or comments or needs help, please reach out to me on Discord or send me a message through Lucky Tree. I am here for you and I will ignore everything else in my life almost to the point that you're creating. So Christine, for people who are watching, they might not be familiar with some of the terms that you use. What are maintenance categories? Maintenance category are my favorite categories too. I love maintenance categories because a lot of times, especially when we're working on people who move around and a lot of us tend to focus on one geographical area or one portion of research, we can use those maintenance categories to sort of flag a profile that needs a record. So you can use it to put in a needs birth record, needs death record, needs marriage record, needs a GEDCOM cleanup, needs a biography written. There's all sorts of, those are the main ones that I used and that I set up and when you're creating lots of extra profiles and you want to move on to another family and you can put those maintenance categories on and somebody else afterwards can come and pick up on where you've left off if you want to move on to the next generation or the next family. So it's great and if you want to adopt or create a profile and then you want to orphan it because you're not going to keep it, please put those maintenance categories on and then somebody else can come in and work on it. There's another one also for needs profiles created, which is great for if you need parents, spouses or children created and then we can go in there and work away. It's a great way to instead of if, especially because everybody's everywhere and we're not all talking to each other at the same time. We don't want to keep England awake till six o'clock in the morning, although I know they like to. Yeah, so it's great to, it's a great place marker for putting onto your profile and then coming back to your stuff later. And then Mags asks a general question which would just categories kind of just lump things to get there in a nice thing. So, you know, you can have, you can have a category for a place. So like, you know, have a category for maybe a certain city in Rhode Island and everybody who had lived there, put that category, they'll be there. And the same thing for the maintenance category kind of just lumps everybody. And we have categories for cemeteries so that everybody in a cemetery can be in the one cemetery category and then you can see everybody who's buried in the same cemetery. Yeah, I love it. It's helps my organizational mind. It really does. If anybody, I know a lot of us that they're have OCD, it really helps. Nanette Pasoudi was asking if Thomas would be have any interest in military service of his ancestors. I am fully anticipating that with the breath of time that we're looking at, that we're definitely gonna find the military records somewhere. So I am eagerly anticipating lots of, lots of interesting finds which you could please post on the free space page that we have. The link for that is on the G2G post, I believe, and also on the Discord channel if you need it. And if you can't find it, just message me and I will send the link to you. And I am sure that he would be very interested in that. I think he'll be interested in it. Of course. Which I think we find. We all want the stories. It's true. We all want the stories of our people that we've never met before. And this is what we're gonna do. This is what Weakie Tree kind of gives. I'm so excited. Weakie Tree gives ancestor profiles over some other family tree sites that will create pictures and all that. So, and then I also saw when we were talking about GEDCOMs and then there was a mention of the AGC extension, which is the automatic GEDCOM cleanup extension, which basically kind of automatically cleans up all of the, I can actually show you, I guess, what GEDCOM junk, I guess all this stuff that's kind of populates from when you upload. Well, I'm not even sure. I always forget that sometimes I don't show the screen. All the stuff that auto-populates. When we import a GEDCOM, it just creates this like super long list of nothing. And this is a new thing for me too, this GEDCOM cleanup tool. So teach us all. We have some very clever Weakie Treeers who have put together extensions for mostly the Chrome browser, but also some other apps that will go in and examine profiles for us and show us things that could be improved. I don't know if, I don't think K-Night is in the chat. I didn't notice, but she did a, a BioCheck app for us. You run that against a profile and it tells you, you know, you're missing this header. This inline source is not formatted correctly. You just all kinds of things that will make it easier for you to go in and clean up a profile. We have all kinds of stuff. Yeah, it's generally invaluable. You know, and... There's cave. It shows you things that you can't find elsewhere. So like, when we do the source-a-thon and we're looking for profiles that have been tagged and sourced, those are things that us as Weakie Treeers add as we go along. Oh, that profile's unsourced. Somebody will go back to it later. But what K-Night's app will do, the BioCheck, is you can go in and look for stuff that most likely doesn't have a source, but nobody's tagged it. So it's looking in that source section to see, oh, there's no sources. Or, you know, if you wanna go in and look and see how many of them have inline citations, which one don't, doesn't. Then you can go in and, you know, and work on whatever your particular skill is. And then, of course, the other app that we're using a lot during this challenge is the fan chart. I was gonna show the BioCheck app real quick. Okay. I can show the, because we were talking about it. Oh, that's a login. Everybody just saw my email. You're welcome. So the BioCheck, they kind of talked about, just kind of tells you, based on what's in the biography, if there's a source, if there's any kind of errors in formatting. And K built this beautiful, extend this app for us. That's the, which I'm gonna call it, the BioCheck. She's done a nice job with that. She worked really hard on that. Yes. And then- You wanna show our fan chart? Yes. Which we kind of saw that I put in the slide, but there's a whole way to just create all a whole bunch of different stuff with this wonderful fan chart that Greg created. He's, I haven't seen him unless he's gonna pop in when I say his name. So basically you can do as many generations as you want. You can go up. What's the max? I feel like maybe 12 is the max, but you can do a lot, but the more generations- And I don't really use over 10. The more you're- The more eight you can seems to work well. So this is eight generations. Doesn't really zoom out. But you also can choose what color palette you want. Like let's say I wanna color the different great grandparents. So then that kind of sorts them out like that. And you can choose your color palette. And how you want them to show, what dates to show. There's a whole bunch of different options. And if you're logged in, you can save your settings. That's pretty cool. We love to use this. It's a beautiful way to show wiki tree stuff. That looks like Thomas themed colors right there. And it's shaped like a mohawk. He should have a mohawk that goes like this, if it has his ancestors on it. I think that'd be super cool. He could make a fan chart mohawk. We kind of just get a print out and we can put it on each side and he can walk around like that. When we all come together at Roots Tech next time, we'll bring in one. Did we, so this is our fan chart app. Did we have any other questions for us? Or for the, I guess if you had a question for Thomas, we can ask later if you had something for him. He'll be on next week when we wrap things up too. So if you do have any questions for him, we'll make sure to. Okay, so Sarah, I have a question for you. And this ties into Thomas because he said that elsewhere that the ancestor he would most like to chat with is his ninth great grandfather, Johannes Putman, who arrived in New York in 1661 and was killed during the Schenectady Massacre. So if you could go back in your branches, who's the one ancestor you would wanna go back and say, hey, I have these questions, let's chat. I guess a few of my brick wall ancestors from Virginia, definitely. Maybe one, maybe my Italian William Gamalero, probably I would ask him, because I was actually talking to my mom about him today because I got a whole bunch of photos in the mail of him. Apparently he was a strange guy and my mom was calling him. He had a whole bunch of different jobs and doing a whole bunch of stuff. So just kind of asking him and about his family because he came over from Ellis Island by himself. So that's probably what I would do, get my brick walls and probably my Italian ancestor, ask him some questions, that's for sure. Does anybody else wanna answer that question? Yeah, I'll let A1 go first. Well, my first thought, not to be like the downer, but my first thought was my grandma because she just died in October. But no, it's a good thing, like it's a happy thought. But on my Langhoff line, we've only gotten back to my great, great, great grandfather because his wife brought all of their children, there were 12. They all came to the States together and he stayed behind because he was fighting in the war and everyone just sort of assumed he died over there, but we don't know. And so it's a major brick wall. On my name, like on Langhoff, which is really annoying. And so yeah, I would like to talk to Johan Peter Langhoff and be like, dude, like who are your parents? What happened? Where are you born? And yes, Lizzie, ask us anything, ask away. Turning the tables onto us. Fire away, we have a little extra time tonight, so. Julie, are you taking your term, which ancestor? Oh, sure, why not? It's always the same. It's my maternal great grandmother who it's kind of an interesting story to me. I hope I don't bore everybody. She lived in Sweden, she was 40 years old and she was working in the household of a family as a cook. And somehow, she wasn't married, somehow she gave birth to twins when she was 40 years old. Turns out, the husband of that family was the father of those twins. So those twins were my grandmother and my great aunt. And I would love to be able to go back and talk to her and learn more about her because after the twins were born, she ended up giving one to her sister to raise and the other she put up for adoption, that was my grandmother. And that was my grandmother. I think they knew the family, but there was just a lot that went on that I want to know more about. I wanna know how things came about. It was just an awkward situation for her, I'm sure. And I think that would be a very, it's a mysterious part of my history that I would like to know about. Have you talked to your great aunt about it, I guess? And she kind of stayed in the family? Or not. No, my great aunt and my grandmother, the twins, they did stay in touch. And it was a weird thing. We can't get a lot of information. Some of the people in Sweden still stayed in touch with everybody and I could probably get more information if I could go over there and talk to people, but most everybody has passed away in that generation. So it's kind of hard. But actually our Swedish project, our Swedish project members have helped a great deal to trace my lineage back into Sweden. So they've shed a lot of light on things. Yeah. Who's next? Christine, how about you? Yeah, I have a third great-grandparent, a grandfather and he apparently came from Ireland in 1817 and settled here in Ontario. And he apparently had brothers who went elsewhere. And I have no idea who those brothers were. And I have no males in my tree that have done DNA. So it's just this huge mystery of like, is this just a family story and what's the basis for it? It got handed down orally, obviously, because it was documented by a cousin of mine who did the family tree in 1989. So, but I just don't have any, I don't have that source. I don't have that. So, yeah. I think it's Mindy's turn now. I think Mindy follows. Oh, no, Mindy's turn now. Are you there, Mindy? Oh, no, she's here. I'm not sure. Mindy's turn now. Come back, Mindy. We miss you. It's your turn to answer. Oh, she's gone. She does not want to talk about her family. No, that was fine. There was a question for Aylen in the chat I saw. I saw that, I'll pop it up here. No, I saw the question and my mind like, totally has drawn a blink. But I will look and I will message you, Eve, because if you have any idea, I'd love to know. Mindy's back. I have the name of a war stuck in my brain, but I know it's the wrong one. So I need to go and make sure what the right one is. Mindy, tell us about your ancestors. Yes, we can. Okay, can you guys hear me? Okay, it, you know, and it's hard to pick. And like, if you asked me last month, I'd probably say somebody else or next month. There's a lot I'd like to go back and whisper in their ear, write it down. Family Bible. And then the pen and paper. I know, right? But I think for right now, I would pick my great Aunt Ella. And her and I, she's one of my maternal great aunts. She was one of 10 children. Her and I were pen pals for years before I ever got to talk to her on the phone once. And boy, did she like to talk more than she liked to write letters. You know, and I wish I was so young though. I wish I could go back and ask her more stuff about the family. We always have those regrets, I'm afraid. I think based on what I've seen of Thomas, he has done a great job of unearthing information about his lines though. So some people are smarter. They actually ask for stories and write them down. Yeah. It's, especially I guess you don't, when you're starting genealogy, you're not thinking about, I guess, oh, let me talk to somebody who's still living, who probably has knowledge. You're like, oh, let me look at the records. And then. Yeah. So especially, I know there are younger people. Some people started different ages, but if you start when you're younger, you have more of a chance to speak to your older relatives. But if you start your genealogy journey, when you're later in life, that could be more difficult as well. Here's a good question. Luther says his second great-grandmother had 17 children. What was she thinking? We wonder that about our ancestors. What were they thinking? Why did they not? It takes two. It does. Yeah, Luther. What were they thinking? And Lucy says that her family thinks she's quiet, but really she's just memorizing what she's hearing so that she can get it written down later. Can we get someone saying that? I will, when I go to my mom and dads, I will sit with my computer. I'll pretend like I'm typing and I'm just recording everything that my dad is saying. That's fabulous. Every story that he's had when he was growing up, so gotta get it down. I need to start doing that with my parents, definitely. And look, somebody said they had just had a distant cousin reach out who's in her 90s. That's great. That's fantastic. That's great. And then also, because of this, I mean, in a couple of hours, if you guys are not for Roots Tech, you probably can find a whole bunch of new cousins from the app I've been finding. And I like that you can search from where they live in the country. I was like, have some people live in Kenya? I was like, what? Wow. Yeah, just because they moved there. But I thought that was pretty cool. You can find some new cousins this weekend. Do it, and then invite them to a wiki tree. Yes. And we can all be cousins. Sounds good. Do we have any other questions in the chat about the challenge, about Thomas, about us, about Christine's kids? Liz, he's talking about thinking, she finds somebody who was in a different country in her line, and she can always find somebody in wiki tree to help her. That's so true. We have country projects, and we have people who actually live in the country and can do local research for us. People who speak the language, German. We had, who was it, who was, Frank? Frank, that's Frank Judson. Yes, yes, he was helping a lot with German records. Week before last, I think we're gonna put him to work this week too, right, Christine? Get up to work. Yeah, Frank and Dieter. Dieter's done a lot of work on him too. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, I know Juha was a big team player in the first week. Okay, A-One, would you click that comment and take it down? No. I clicked it to take it off, she put it back up. That's because Judy and I share one brain, and so we do the same thing at the same time. It happens all the time. In other words, we each have half a brain. Yeah. When he shifts in the kitchen, sorry, he's too many hands. Oh, yeah, Sweden, Poland, France, Karen says. All over the place. We have people from all over the world. It's astounding to me the number of people that we have from across the globe that dive in to help. We've had a lot of people outside of the United States that are working on these lines that primarily started in the United States, or not started, but have become anchored in the United States. So it's been a lot of fun. I don't know. Do we have, I guess we're just trying to maybe hoping that Thomas will pop in at any moment. I don't think we can stall for 12 more minutes, guys. Oh man, but we just wanted some chatting. Okay. Well, unless there are some other questions in the chat, I want to do one of these on Saturday. Yes. So Saturday will be, I'm actually doing a kind of roots text special, kind of covering all of what we've been doing on the for the weekie tree challenge, kind of covering all of our finds and summarizing. So that's what we'll be doing on Saturday. And just keep an eye out for that. Oh, somebody from Miami. I am from Miami. Sorry. Just popped in. What was I saying? Okay. So Saturday, 10 a.m. Eastern time, pop in for that. We're not doing anything roots tech official, but we are, we'll be posting stuff on social media. So keep an eye out for that. And then Saturday, our normal live cast, not normal stuff we're talking about, but covering the weekie tree challenge. So I want to thank everybody for watching. I want to thank Thomas who has decided, you know, who has agreed to participate this week. So if he's watching this after the fact, thank you, Thomas. We will see you next week. And just for everybody, you can always look us up. It's weekly tree. W I K I TR ET. Com. Is great. It's free. Yes. We're all there. We don't, we don't do anything else besides Wiki tree. Christine's not going to sleep this week. Well, I gotta tell you, I worked nights last two nights and I haven't slept yet. So. then. Yeah thank you I'm used to it. So and then also don't forget to subscribe either if you're watching on YouTube subscribe to our channel and if you're on Facebook don't forget to like and share it with other people so they can follow us as well and we will see you next time. Get a move on working on Thomas's tree. Let's break some brick walls. Dive in.