 I don't know how long you've been at... I don't... Most of my time is on the Kaneohe campus, so... I don't... I haven't noticed much of a change. What are you studying? Environmental studies. Ah, what are you going to do with that? I have no idea. I wanted to work in the federal government, but... Man, that may not be so easy anymore. Okay, are you an undergraduate or graduate? Undergraduate. You plan to take graduate degrees? I'm thinking about it, but I would like to take some time off in between. You can travel if you can. Yeah, I actually am going to go spend a whole summer in France because my sister is in a graduate program and I'm going to take care of her kids and just live in France with her. Oh, that's great. In Paris. Ah, no, in Angers. It's in like central France. It's just to the west of Paris. Yeah, a little bit, yeah. Yeah. So, talk to me about immigration policy and globalism. It seems to have changed this country in the past, okay? Oh, yeah, a little bit. You know, a lot of people agree, even here, with what Donald Trump has done. I know that's hard to believe. Oh, really? But, yeah, we have major changes at the foot, and I wonder how you feel about that. Well, I'm pretty upset about it because one of my close friends, her dad is Syrian, so since we were in high school, they've been going to Turkey to visit their Syrian family who will have to come across the border and now there's just no chance of them leaving Syria and coming to live with them in, you know, a relatively stable environment. How about on a larger scale? I don't have a question of whether this is consistent with American values. Absolutely not. I don't think so. You know, America is entirely built on immigrants. It's with the exception of Native Americans, and immigrants came in and killed most of them, so, like, the whole policy, in fact, is very flawed because even if we had immigrants coming in and, like, killing a bunch of Americans, it would still be consistent with American history. Interesting. Well, what about the notion of globalism? You know, we've had Thomas Friedman book in the 90s about globalism, the flat world, you know, and so many things have gone global, many, you know, phenomena are now global phenomena, business and so forth, and diplomacy have changed. How do you feel about this administration's approach to the question of global development? I mean, in terms of energy used alone, because I'm an environmental student, I would say we definitely are putting ourselves on a path of losing out in terms of a global scale, denying a lot of science that has to do with green technology. I mean, even if we lived in an area that relies heavily on, like, the coal industry, there's no denying that the industry itself is dying, so trying to prop it up on our own is going to be ineffective, and by separating ourselves so much, we're really losing out on potential economic growth, social development, you know, environmental prosperity, I guess you could say. What about climate change? This administration apparently takes a position. That it doesn't really exist? Yeah, that there is no climate change happening, and that's overroost. Is it a roost, and how do you feel about the administration's position? Well, I think that even if it were made up, let's just say entirely it was made up, if your doctor is telling you, like, you are going to get diabetes with the next donut that you eat, that's what all the scientists are telling us about the climate, like, the next barrel of gasoline is going to tank us, so maybe we should stop. You would listen to your doctor, so it's kind of ridiculous that we're just ignoring all the scientists, and if they're wrong, I mean, is there really anything bad about having a cleaner environment? Like, do you really not like clean air or water? So, yeah. Now, President Trump is about to appoint a few minutes away, I think, a new Supreme Court judge, because the Hispanic appointee was blocked for almost a year for the Republicans and Congresses. Now he's going to appoint one, or nominate one today in minutes, and I wonder, and that appointee is very likely to be against Roe v. Wade, swan to abandon Roe v. Wade and, you know, right to the choice, and I wonder how you feel about that, as the Supreme Court is appointing Roe v. Wade. So this is a little bit more touchy. I think that a lot of people will tell you that they personally don't want an abortion or anything, but it still is not consistent with American values to deny other people a choice to be able to do that. Like, I'm not allowed to tell you that you can't eat candy. Like, those bills have been proposed and they've been shut down. Like, junk food taxes have been shut down consistently because America is supposed to have the freedom to make choices. So, you know, they're saying you can't have an abortion and they are just totally going against every core American value that they say that they defend. Well put. Yeah.