 Welcome back to the breakfast in plus TV Africa's time for what the process always would take you through the pages of a national dailies and the Essences of detail with what's making the rounds in different parts of the country I like to set up with the punch newspaper this morning. We do have a guest who would join in no time Open up on Kottariya. He's a public affairs analyst. It's good to have you join us this morning open up on Kottariya It's my pleasure messy. I'm the good morning. Thank you. All right. Thank you so much Let's take a look at the page or the front page to be precise and the focus will be on the top caption on the front page Of the punch newspaper this morning. You have World Bank projects for trillion narrow 2022 fuel subsidy Asparts predicts more loans Underneath Nigeria could spend 360 billion Naira monthly on subsidy says World Bank and Federal government will borrow multi-finance the rising fuel subsidy payment These are some statement or the statement quoted or credited to as part and in piece it releases additional 381.8 million liters of fuel and cues lesson Vice President Yamio Sibon draw others in charge during my United Kingdom checkup That's what the president is good at to say you remember that at some point in our country I mean there's been a back-and-forth Whether if the president should be absent and who he should transfer powers to Of course it should be the vice president But usually there's always a clause of the president would not exceed the two weeks and that's you're there But right now the president is saying that the vice president and others will be in charge and is absent The question that a lot of Nigerians are asking is is there you know this letter that has communicated This particular instruction or is it just a verbal statement that's been put out We find that more as we talk with our analysts this morning implement 2009 agreement Fund or short vacities says ASU ASU is asking the government to implement the 2009 agreement Fund or short the vacities that's what ASU is saying APC chairman meet today on certainty surrounds zonal congresses And court workers threaten first strike over judicial autonomy Nineteen doctors to appear before the MDCN for misconduct That's also on the punch and just before we move away Arrested Randy husband six forgiveness for ripping in law for three years really sad And BRT abduction victims 70 72 year old mother six governments help and suspects arrested And the LEA seizes 294,440 trauma door tablets Others arrested in 41 41 in nationwide raids Legos driver crushes four siblings others as you have the youth protest Fail politicians plotting come back to destroy choir That's what you find on Okay, so that's what you find on the punch newspaper this morning Away from the punch would take a look at the nation newspaper APC zoning panel summits report amid disagreement Leader split over key national working committee position Buhari we will overcome crisis I mean just as everyone is waiting for the convention to happen Looking at the 26 we're hoping that the APC will not have another shift Or shouldn't 2023 PDP balls over primaries delegate list 1.5 million flea Ukraine to escape Russians bombing And that's what you find and 1076 Nigerians are back home You still have orders that are stranded And we're hoping that the government would intensify effort to evacuate this young Nigerians You be a poster 153 billion Naira for your profits And that's what also on the punch this morning just a bigger part of the nation And just before we move away you have the CBN's Naira dollar policy Not working says presidential advisor Accept my leadership or quit Or basically tells it do people a do PDP leadership That's on the punch donation The nation newspaper to be very precise None away from the nation and the punch Let's check out the Guardian this morning On the front page of the Guardian you have the new national carrier Midtake of the second quarter as bead opens this week Quite interesting No request for AOC ATL yet You have the NCAA insisting That's underneath the board caption On non gunmen comb unnumbered communities for weapons and others PDP ABC trade tackles over more destructive party to Nigerians WHO releases first malaria vaccine And a recommendation guideline Really interesting I mean if we are being plagued with malaria Especially if you look at Nigeria We would be thinking at this point in time Which probably would have come out with a vaccine That can actually solve the problem No matter why you weren't against political conspiracy on fuels Cursity that's it And you be opposed 153 billion profits And gross balance sheet by 2% If I'm not mistaken Well that's it this morning on the Guardian newspaper That's as much we can take on our national dailies We do have a guest joining the conversation And Okunabe on Kotaria Who's a public affairs analyst And we will have you join us this morning And we really appreciate your time on the breakfast Good morning Good morning Okunabe So let's start off with the punch newspaper And on the punch you look at the World Bank projection For trillionaire 2022 fuel subsidy That's what the World Bank is projecting for Nigeria Sorry I didn't get that to be It proved Can you please take that again I said it proved so I didn't get that So I would like to share your thoughts On the projection of World Bank Saying that Nigeria might be spending Or we'll spend a 4 trillionaire For 2022 in terms of fuel subsidy Now on SBAT are saying that We might just be at the error of borrowing more funds Well that is World Bank projection I am not In any position to contradict it Because I am not an economist That is number one And I have not done any research on that I believe that is the function of the research That World Bank has done And you said analysts are also saying The point is analysts are also saying We are going to borrow more To fund this fuel land Oil subsidy we talked about I am not surprised when it comes to borrowing For more Because this is a government That has this penchant for borrowing So it's religious in borrowing Rather than looking in wars to direct funds And they borrow The president probably not for any Sinister motive But it's lieutenant Definitely for Sinister motive Because that's how they make a lot of money So we are going to borrow Rather than turn around the refineries Rather than put The turn around maintenance in the refineries And also to ascertain Why the refineries are not working That's why the billions When invested in turn around maintenance The government is not interested It's a completely listless When it comes to turning around the refineries There is no sincerity of hope They just believe Because we have the cabal A microscopic view That benefits tremendously From the issue of Important refining these products outside Can you imagine you take our products out It is unheard of, ridiculous Refine them over there And import them and pay At the same time you are You claim to be turning around the refineries You are spending more money on importation How do you reconcile this madness So this is the government That has the penchant Religious, it enjoys Borrowing money And it will continue to borrow On the issue of the World Bank production It must have been based on the analysis That was an implant on analysis of the World Bank They must have done their own investigations I would have gladly come up with that So I was able to say That the federal government will not borrow No, no, we need to talk of borrowing Even if it means to borrow to import sand This federal government will borrow to import sand Even if it means to borrow To import water This government will borrow to import water So when it comes to borrowing That is very flagrable No doubt about that That cannot be contradicted But now the reasonableness in the borrowing Is what Nigerians are questioning So when they say The analysts are saying The federal government will leave Borrow extra miles for them for later It's not as if they are commanding the government They are not being sardonic They are not being... They are mocking the government Mocking the system That we live in a country Where food is It's not no longer a virtue It is profligacy That is not a virtue And that is what the government wants There is nothing much to share about Because whether it is like this or not The government will... Even if it means borrowing To buy nettles Injection nettles The government will borrow to buy nettles So let's... Let's just stay with this I understand the fact that you say That you are not an economist But looking at the amount of money is involved If this is anything to go by I mean we have not had The figures being put out by the Nigerian government Talking about how much we Probably would be spending for subsidy And if World Bank is saying We are looking at 4 trillion Naira 360 billion Naira annually That's monthly I beg your pardon That's what you are saying Maybe... Don't you think that we should have A turn around Maybe we should Reconceive that the issue of A few subsidies If we are going to be spending 360 billion Naira Mercy Mercy I don't know if you will make Change that to the government The questions you just asked now I addressed all Obviously I said the government I spent so much With the turnaround maintenance Of our refineries And not so much Put into the system And nothing has come out I mentioned that I said and that is because The whole process is being Steamed by a microscopic cube That are fraudulent And they enjoy The fruits of this corruption That is why Then again I went as I also said That we are spending so much On turnaround maintenance Why the federal government Is simultaneously boring money Or the same purpose And I said the government Have the penchant And that is the result Of people enjoying The fruits of this crime They are beneficiary Of the fruits of this crime And I don't know Whether you like it or not Try to take any effort To turn around So the turnaround maintenance Is also another way Of satisfying conics That is to sincerity of people I said all this So then I told you that It will be difficult to stop Especially under this administration That has that love Religious boring So what else do you want to say To the government In boring and important work To have the refineries there Who are strongly good And importantly refined product Is that not madness? So I've particularly addressed All the questions That is madness And it is simply because In microscopy You are benefiting tremendously From this problem And the court The government Before it came into office Said there was nothing like substance And vilified On the issue of substance Now it came into office And said it must continue With the substance It has this schizophrenic personality On the issue of substance In another place You said it cannot continue Initially it said no substance Later I said it has to continue Now later you are telling Nigeria That you cannot continue with the substance Because it's having a toll On the initial penalty What do you want me to say? I just told you again I said you need to be boring To import water The government will bore it to import sand It is boring to import sand The government will bore it to import sand It is boring Not the boring is not planned It's not promised unnecessary It is just promised On what line Ecosensitivity Based on To feather our land Sand the pockets of sand in corn That's the point the government will bore it And that is why the refineries Will never ever ever They properly maintain Otherwise you've been in government You promise To seed in your Swearing it That If you do not take your mother Six months, eight months Or they are about to turn around Your final You are now in the twilight Of the administration Where you bore it To import What are the explanations you Other than And if you talk of their mouth Yes Their mouth Must be used and attracted For the boring And the potential to continue Because it is a problem And men To feather Online the pockets Of sand Ecosensitivity So the boring Will come And the potential Will come All right Open up on Qatari Let's also Look at another caption So you're staying with the punch This morning Asso is saying to the government Adher to the Agreement of 2009 Or short the universities Or fund them Or you just move away This seems to be very, very A drastic statement If you ask me Well, as you Tondri I am Yes As A drastic As you might see I also don't have confidence In asking As you Like NLC Of course It's a part of NLC You know Most times They come out Clamor Shout But tension And when they get Their tension And some of them Are giving envelopes Envelopes Of course You know Signifies Private I give them money They go back and keep quiet And when they're just Then their pockets are exhausted They make another noise Because I know I have always said Even on this station That look We all know This is a government That cannot be trusted It's a government That is devoid of revenue It's a government That speaks From both sides of the map Not for its government's people If the government You well don't strike in this time The first time You had an agreement With the government The government reneged You did it a second time You reached an accommodation With the government The government reneged There was a bridge On the path of the government The fourth time The fourth time As you You also have a government We agree We need an overhaul of the Academic service Especially with the special It's not just the special Even with the The primary schools And primary schools Because I can tell this My story Into a national school And the government will approve Into a primary school And the government will approve How ridiculous it is Now you reached an agreement And this is the government That has reneged How many times By the time the government Reneges Two to three times You no longer Go back to work Until The times are met You don't go back to work You don't do that So there is going to be Once and for all I listened to the liberal minister On a sister challenge Was just blabbing gibberish Talking about food mountains That is a medical doctor Who is well educated A former government Saying as such When you reached the agreement You did not know That there were certain hiccups There are certain hiccups Until you decided So you went into an agreement Without preparation In other words I've been issued Because of the disease It was just to ensure That the actual members Go back to work That was the whole effort And now you want to renege the shit Meanwhile You are spending X amount Why would you give Is it a hundred million dollars To Afghanistan Or what this country That depends on just Is it a hundred million dollars To your last name For what When were your institutions Here are dying Starving of course They are giving a hundred million dollars To your country What kind of Horalist system do we have Insensitive system do we have But I don't blame the government They are known for that I blame Asu You don't go back to the classroom Until the demands are met So it's going to be a worse And for our situation Not when they give me a bribe To give me money When you go broke You go inside the game They bribe you When they go broke So the Asu members I call you for off If they are not for off They should not go back to the classroom Let us address this issue Once and for all It's as simple as that Parents are suffering You're a triple-legit parent Who are suffering to train these children You go back to school You pay Now if all you have cost You spend eight years in university You students pay rent Every year it has to do the land The landline is even happy They pay rent every year But don't go out on campus You don't let them know When you're going to graduate Most of these parents Don't leave me out Now, okay, you can imagine We are Probably you are going to graduate in 2019 And because of the Asu strategy Of graduating in 2022 or 2023 Your father dies in 2020 Back for the strike You would have graduated Before the death of your father Now your father dies Because of the death of your father There's nobody to train you To drop out of school In your final year A lot of things A lot of things happen As a result of respect Lots of tribulations Lots of suffering These things are not considered Let it be once and for all You see that the federal government Is addressing it Or Asu should go on strike Even if it's for two years That has to go on strike If they go on strike for two years Students will not go back To renew their rents Because they will not even know when You renew your rents Three months after Asu has gone on strike They'll go on strike for eight months The rent will expire They're going back to renewing again Open up Are you saying that It is the corruption of Asu That has made the agreement From 2009 The government not, you know Implementing the agreement Are you saying that corruption From Asu members could be Responsible for the delay Of the implementation On the hand of the government That is my submission One that could vocally That is my submission That is my submission Actually a simple question I came up with an analysis The last Actually Asu, yes she's smiling Actually a simple question Now If I come to you every day To say Asu give me ten naira I'll pay you tomorrow You give to me It took me one year To pay that ten naira Or to even give you five naira Half of it I come again Asu give me twenty naira You give it to me You took me another Twenty years to come To pay you another To pay you got two naira Out of the twenty naira Ever come the third time You give it to me If you keep giving to me It's because you're using that As a substitute to collect money Openable once money Give me They give to you You're benefiting from it Otherwise you will not give to me Because I no longer have credibility I want to deal with them Without credibility Because if you continue There's definitely There's something you're benefiting from it You're benefiting from it Otherwise you will not And that is the issue Between Asu and me For me I don't know They are corrupt Actually they are corrupt That's the phenomenon As corrupt as they are It's not more corrupt When they are broke They're going to strike When they are broke They're going to strike For what? Go and strike Once I'm gone I will know that you're going to strike Okay Because don't go and strike again That's simple as that Let's just look at this one quickly Before we move away from The Punch newspaper this morning It talks about the vice president And others being in charge When Mr. President will be absent For his medical checkup And you know that Sometime during this administration This has actually cost A lot of, you know, conversation There was a certain time Where the president was away And people queried Why he did not transfer power According to the Constitution But the issue of, you know, the time If you exceeded a particular time limit Which he never, according to You know, the president He had a time that He would stay within the two weeks But now the president is leaving And he's saying The vice president would be in charge And others Excuse me, excuse me Excuse me, Nigeria This shouldn't be an issue It should not be a user item at all It is a user item because It is novel In Nigeria Normally if the president is traveling And is going to have seen The Constitutional provisions Is expected by law To transmit A letter to the National Assembly To that address Well, we've seen situations Since situations where the president Travelled For months Without transmitting a letter To that address And there was this control To say as to who was in charge As at that time It could well be described As a period of interregnum Because there was no gift In fact from it Because there was no transmission Procedural obligations were breached Otherwise it ought not to be news If you are traveling As simple as that You transmit And it's automatic Because the constitutional provisions It's automatic That the vice president Asked me instead So he takes orders And we saw that When the first letter was transmitted Excuse me Acting president then did When again was appointed As a substitute to John CDN And so on We saw the strategy too Which Nigeria has commanded That was when He had done himself To the heart of Nigeria Because it was somewhere You know Because if you are just a vice president And you're the acting president There are constitutional limits To certain things you do And that is why the law Requires that They are not with that transmission Of letter It's ordinary Not to be news It's simple Hey, my friend Besides this He's going to act in my stead But just because of Some very funny Litten hands around the president Oh, if you do this Oh, he's going to do that Oh, don't do this You're going to give me too much power And so he's so ridiculous I would tell you The kind of characters We have in office But I can't even have An attorney general of the tradition A minister was just He should advise the president You can't travel for so few months Without transmitting These are the constitutional provisions Please sir, do this He will not He will not And it's so funny That the president will travel And you have an acting president And the acting president presides it Over the Executive Consummit Who will still be sitting in his own chair Rather than sitting in the chair of the president What do we take away? That is our The kind of destructive mentality Actually Watch abroad Just a second Watch When the American president Is addressing the nation Or a group To have just one lecture There Now, you see Of the United States Of America You see there Or United States Or whatever That same lecture Without their removing Not seeing Is viewed By whoever is with us If it's not of that Of that But we are so power drunk Here That even when a governor is to speak Oh no, the governor's like That is a special Don't transmit the letter No It will give him so much power To do what you want But They didn't want an agent To imagine the CDL It was the vice president who was Acting there That ensured who was running that People didn't like it And we are so high-willed So these are the issues What's the thing to cut off minds And it's so sad that Mr. President Is our president Let me not say such a thing Alright Basically somebody come to you To say they want to Slice the ear of your son Will you allow it Or your daughter will you allow it Will you allow it Because that is what you do As old as it is The former head of As old as it is Why would you submit yourself to All kinds of stupid advices That is what it is But age Age doesn't necessarily mean anything We already know that age is just a number Age is not the exact thing I said the former You are indirectly Bustering my ass off You are indirectly supporting me No, I'm not supporting you I'm just only saying that If you were making I said former military head of state Who is the man that was the governor At my time The former minister of Petrion Impressive credential Former head of state He should have overcome Some of this effectiveness But I think that Open up on Kotaria For those who always make an excuse For all of this You can't compare Maybe that's where the problem lies Maybe the problem lies in the fact That we're having a former military Head of state And coupled with personality And what a view With having to be in a democratic dispensary It's not the same thing The experiences are different And age also As we always say Age is just a number I will not disagree with you My dear message I will not disagree Open up on Kotaria We need to move away from that headline So we can check out more There will say you have an ambition So the minister will not suggest Let's leave that alone Let's open up on Kotaria We need to move away now Let's move away from the punch Let's take a quick look At the Guardian newspaper this morning I'd like to share your thoughts on this one The fact that the new National Carrier May take off in the second quarter That's of 2022 The beat opens this week And this might just be Another good news for Nigerians In the midst of all of the confusion And the hardship that's ongoing Oh God What is that What is that This I'm going to call Help me now Help me now I have no idea what you're thinking at the time Aviation whatever Has doubted it Because certain things are not being done So it has doubted it The minister said Before they leave the box Later he said June next year Now they are saying Second quarter What are we going to believe So the situation is like this Sit down look If it keeps on fighting But you'll be very much surprised That they are trying to expedite action on this Of the money they are going to make for this Then when it gets close to the second quarter They come up with another excuse It will not take off Right there You can go to bank with this It will not take off Because the man had said Before the new office that's the minister Then later he said June next year So what has changed What has changed How is it to make money So if we get this It can be done If we get this It can be done I'm not saying they will not commission They might commission after all We believe in the country where generator was used To commission to buy If you didn't have the president Left Generator went off and out And the president called the governor Only you should know Who is fond of saying this kind of thing The president at that time He said holy It happened Generator was used to commission to buy So anything can happen They can throw in an aircraft Because money must change hands They need the cash If they don't start now The president might say well let my successor continue I'm not interested in that So how can then we are stupid No we must tell him that if we do this Then we can start We must be need money The ones who called are renewed They tell you oh the partners are brought That came up with this excuse Oh there are some legal problems Oh there are this It will not become It's not even a problem It's not even a problem So it will not become The man who has the right now is in health The country can burn He's not praying to get out He's tired That's his problem That's the truth We really didn't say When I did it officially or not He didn't say that the ambassador will continue To accompany All right let's also Let's also look at another one Because We're almost out of time now And I'd like to share your thoughts on this one Because following the constitutional review That's ongoing of the 1999 Constitution Certain recommendations that were put out 68 of them and one of them is the judicial autonomy I mean for the Autonomy for the judiciary Now you have the court workers Threatening that's under the Edges of the judicial Staff union of Nigeria Threatening to embark on an industrial Industrial action Indefinite industrial action Following the failure Of some states in Nigeria To implement Or pass you know the law at the state level Granting financial Autonomy to the judiciary Now these was also You know some of the things that some political Pundit actually thought about The fact that yes it's good but what would happen At the state level Now we're looking at 36 states Out of 36 states we have just 8 states And these workers are saying we're going To embark on an indefinite Industrial action You know what that means for us You understand that the court Is A hope for a common man And now if you have the court Because if you have this part of workers Going and strike it means that to some extent It would actually hamper on Judicial proceedings And what have you and that would Not really be good for us as a country But what are your thoughts on this 36 states You just have only 8 states Granting judicial autonomy If the court Go and strike it could be a constitutional Plan Because Nigerians would take the most Of the Nigerians Nobody's going to witness When it's rights and in charge Of nobody Nobody with that position Never the less You know Our government has something From narcissistic personality They have this Bigurals Capricious Out of control Drive And they want to be in charge Of going to judiciary And the legislation I'll tell you That I am 100% in support If I'm going juicy called Of that strike I was upset And it was on this station On the super station I pleaded with you to not call The government Most Like now the supreme court Some said It was a win-win situation Because the governor said They must be refunded If at all the judiciary To get the capital From the federal government And since the court said no That the supreme court said no And I also am disappointed That the supreme court said no That which the government also They did not lose Because they actually Won because if you are going to grant The autonomy then we need the key Because of the condition In other words, they don't want you To grant the autonomy While the supreme court Is simply relying on the constitution They say no We are not going to refund the money However, the government should ensure If the government We are actually doing what The constitution said they should do They don't have been discused They don't have any implication To respect it Even if it was so stealthy That is what you call Traditional activity And that is the whole issue Because what the supreme court says Is the law that is the law That is why you have them there Now I Quickly I talk of legalism Legalism is about the letter But the law, if it goes beyond the letter You look at the letter and the spirit The interest If you talk of autonomy Today, most judges Even the CJs Go cap in hand You see a governor Telling an ugly to call a CJ To his office An ugly How did he even solve it The governor He works for one or two hours To see the governor Tell me why justice Will not become Thank you so much Direct funding I want you to go and try And if you don't go and try Or if it is not, let your cost Shut down And you know the elections We are going to have the election We will take a break We will take a break Thank you so much We have to let you go at this point in time We do appreciate your thoughts It is always a delight to listen to you Share your thoughts on these issues We look forward to talking extensively On some of them, thank you so much Have a great day Okonobon Kotariya Is a public affairs analyst Good to have him share his thoughts once again We look forward to having more of him On the show this morning On the press And when we return It will be time for us to be looking at our first major conversation The issue of evacuation Of Nigerian students and all that is happening With Nigerians outside The war torn zone If you would like to see But just before we take that break We would like to let you know what happened today In history, been the seventh day In the month of March Please stay with us