 You have to do it more than once really you gotta keep your Rogan's been consistent That's why he got the hundred million dollar deal from Spotify. He damn sure did Shannons show up becoming a top interviewer because of this interview has went up past every interview With 40 some million, you know I'm using so like it's the second most viewed in under Joe Rogan But it Joe Rogan's gonna pass it. I mean he's gonna pass or because he's doing it fast. It's good. It's moving Does that set a staple for him, you know far as being a great interviewer in the field that he's dealing with now You have to do it more than once really you gotta keep your Rogan's been consistent That's why he got the hundred million dollar deal from Spotify. He damn sure did so, you know No, no not the Shannon. That's great But it you got to be consistent that dude again. Just do it once. Do you think you can do it again? Who knows man? I mean listen that that interview was lightning in a bottle And it's hard to capture lightning in a bottle consistently You know it depends on who you guess and cat was a great guest Again, I don't agree with it, but it's all about chemistry. Yeah, I Got to ask you about Also, Jason Whitlock Stephen a Smith you you see what's going on with them boys, man Yeah, like when you see this kind of this still the same goes back. It's the same thing color for color You know round for round like well, how do you feel about that? Well, you know, I know Jason Whitlock has always had this undertone of being a sellout or being viewed as a I don't want to say Uncle Tom because a lot of black people don't even know the true meaning of Uncle Tom When you get called an Uncle Tom, that's actually a compliment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you called a Sambo now You've been insulted. Yeah, that's what Uncle Tom is actually not a not a bad thing, but he's been Referred to as some sort of a Sambo So I don't know all the complete details about Steven anything. I don't even just came out Some people say he was coming behind Cat Williams and and Shannon Sharpe's interview to let him know, you know, like it's pressure over here At the end of the day, I just would like us to do better. I think it's just time Yeah, you know and so what are you gonna do to change the narrative because what What the hell is airy-spear is gonna do to change the narrative because you've been a like I told you before You've been a part of the situation that pretty much spewed up, you know Different things that cause people to feel away about pressure on this internet with comics, right? So what are you gonna do in 2024 to change the narrative anything I can, you know But I'm not as I'm not as powerfully based in Certain positions to make the kind of change that I would like to make So, you know my my my fit my platform or my mouthpiece can only do so much You know all the other changes that need to happen need to come with me being able to provide or you know Build some things so that's gonna take that's gonna take a little bit of time for me Because my hustle is a little bit different because I'm not I'm not ahead of the pack like a cat Williams or a Kevin Hart Like but it can happen. Well, that's the goal. I'm talking about on a dime. That's that's that's the goal You never know. Yeah, see and when you talking about stuff like that, you know, cuz I know Kevin Hart He talked about the fact that like cat Williams He's not really just helping the people around him to grow and so forth Do you think that is so detrimental? Especially when you become a celebrity you making money and you making moves that you need to help the people around you Come up and create like an organization like, you know, how Kevin has yeah You know, listen one thing about black people and and you know I don't know we don't like to be held accountable Which is why so many people are mad at me because anytime you hold niggas accountable. They go But one thing about I love about my people is when we get it together We're the best at so much shit than anybody else. We know how to dominate we we we life's hot sauce You know, if life is chicken we did Tabasco We know how to turn the volume up on everything And we we were some of the most imitated and copied and stolen from people on the planet So when you just look at the history of who we are where we've been what we've done Life wouldn't be without us. We got such a main ingredient to everything So I'm just going man if we could just get our heads right and utilize our powers and come together Avengers assemble It would be dangerous. What does it take? First of all, we got to change the mindset We got to change the mindset. We have such a Scrooge McDuck mind mind mind mind. I got mine You can get yours instead of going help me get mine. And if you help me get mine, I can help him get his yeah Yeah, I mean when you think about all these Black celebrities on Instagram Comedians actors, can you imagine if if we every time I got something popping you we it was like an automatic chain Oh, it was got something popping. I'm reposting Kevin Hart. Oh, Bill Bellamy got something popping I'm reposting cat Williams if everybody just took care of each other man It would be it would be it would be dangerous I know the funny thing about that what what I'm thinking is the fact that like because social media is a quick way of how to get out Information out to everybody on one time, right? So if you did a video showing that you're helping, you know your friends helping that everybody come up you show Unity and organization coming up some people be like, you know people always turn the good and make it bad We like oh why he got to put it out there like that it makes it seem like that person couldn't do it You know what I mean and turn people head around. That's a mindset. Yeah. Yeah, some I said Like Kevin got Over 300 million followers. Yeah. Yeah on Instagram. Yeah Whether it's me or whoever let's say it was a desi banks if he reposted Desi banks performing here at this day at this time, it'll be sold out. How many people are gonna see that? Mm-hmm You know if we did that for each other. Wow. Oh my god impactful powerful. Oh my god But we don't know I What do you think I gotta get you out of here, but he did he how will he end up on this situation if you had to guess Say if you had to guess What would you see him at in another two years? You know here, you know how I put that like in two years. Why do you see he did it, you know? He should just come up. He's gonna be all right. I said in two years in two years You get on my podcast two years and if he don't if he ain't facing no criminal charges and don't get arrested or nothing like that He's still got the money. So he's gonna still do what he do. He's gonna be who he is And if you get arrested you think they're gonna throw the book at him You know money money talks, you know, our Kelly had money and he's out, isn't he? Isn't he? Oh, no, he's still in jail. Yeah I thought he was released. He wasn't released. Where you hear that from? I think you tripping. Are you sure really? I can't it came out I was out But it'll go crazy. You know, you gotta follow you know, I seen you I seen you do a sketch on that Do you Can is not out what he was out. He would have been performing already Now he is not out That's why I was like he got money, but they threw the book at him and they is not letting him out I ain't playing with him either. Yeah, but he also was like really wild. Hmm. Yeah, you Did he P. Did he is being said to have with grown women, right? Maybe he'll be honest and come out and just come out Maybe you'll be honest in two years, you know Two years now, you're honest and that's why I don't come out Then what would happen? Do you think everybody turn their backs on him and he will just know cuz he got money So money is the cure to everything For people that need to be cured. Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one. Yeah, we gonna