 Next question is from Fabris too, what do you think of straps and grips? I've used them for years, but wonder if I should just build my forearm strength and only lift what I can without them. All right, so this depends who I'm talking to. If you are going to compete in a sport that allows you to use straps, like you're a strong man, and strong men oftentimes will do like these crazy lifts and the competition will allow for straps. Then I'd say you can use them obviously because you need to get good at using them, but for the average person this is my advice. If you can't hold the weight, that means you can't lift it. That's all. So if you can't hold it, then that's your weakest link, and that means you can't lift it. And so people would say to me, well then that's because my back is too strong. My back is too strong for my hands. Okay, our hands are freaking, we evolved to have really strong hands. I mean, we were primates for goodness sakes. If you allow your hands to get stronger, believe me, they will be strong enough to support 99% of the people who are listening right now. Now in the extreme cases where you're like super power, incredible strength or whatever, maybe, but I mean, I've pulled 600 pounds bare hands. Power lifters aren't allowed to use wrist straps. They use alternate grips or hook grips, and they can do it. I say let your hands get strong. I don't know why we're so afraid of this. Yeah, I don't know. Again, I'm probably the most extreme on this. I don't know when it happened. I think it was after training for football for so long, and trying to get numbers and trying to get PRs and things to put on the board and be the strongest guy in the gym and all this, and that meant a lot to me. And I would use a belt and I would use wrist wraps for poles, and at some point, I went to go grip just maybe half the weight in dumbbells, and I could barely even hold on to it for very long. I had no endurance. I had no grip strength, and then just started to work on that specifically, and just basically made it so no aids were at all involved in any one of my lifts. No belts, no straps, no special shoes, no shirts, none of that stuff. What I'm doing is eliminating a component of training that now I don't have to really focus on as much because I'm really, in a sense, I'm just being lazy. At the end of the day, I'm cutting out a portion of important things to work on that my body's sending me feedback and signal on that I'm being arrogant and I'm avoiding it because I think that this stuff is more fun and cool and is going to fucking make me look cool on Instagram, and I'm going to get numbers and praise for it. That's ego. And so, I've just been challenging myself. What can I really do? You're not going to know what you can really do unless you address all those things that you're by telling you. So since the beginning of the podcast, I've challenged this the most. So of the three of us, I have probably used the straps the most. I don't right now because I don't see the value in them for where I'm currently at. Where I found value in them was when I was competing. And because a lot of my training was very similar to like Maps Aesthetic where we have foundational days and then we have these focus days where I would be working on specific body parts or even like small muscles in the back, right? And I'm doing a lot of like isolation type exercises. And when I would do that after heavy deadlifting or maybe did something the day before and my arms are weak or sore and that would become a limiting factor to where that would start to give out before the muscle that I was trying to target, I would strap up. And the reason why I would is because the opposite of everything that Sal and Justin just said, I didn't care about strength. I didn't care about having, you know, my forearms matching my back strength. I cared about developing an area that I needed to work on till I could present my physique on stage. And if my forearms were the limiting factor, I don't care. I didn't care about what I should be doing for like overall functional and what makes the most sense for the average person. I cared about not letting my forearms fatigue at all while I could really focus on squeezing and pumping and driving home this muscle that I was trying to work. So I found a lot of value in using straps when training like that. So I do agree with everything that the boys are saying that if you're just a person who's trying to build strength, trying to build, you know, muscle, burn body fat, not a lot of value there, but I do see it for somebody who is that's the 1% right sculpting a physique and has a plan going into that workout and they do not want the forearms to be a limiting factor. They don't give a shit if they're weaker or not. They are targeting a specific area that they want to completely feel it there. That's different. And so I can justify somebody using that. And that's not to say that that person still wouldn't benefit from working on forearm strength. I just didn't care. It took me a year. I used to use wrist straps all the time. And then one day I said, I'm not going to use them anymore. And I could not lift what I lifted. It took me a year, but I did get back to the point where I could then go back to the previous lifts. It took me literally a year of focus. And the other thing is, like, I come from a blue collar family. And in the summers, I would go and work with my dad. And the thing that separated the strong guys from the guys that couldn't handle it was hands. The guys with the strong hands, they could carry the two by fours. They could swing the hammer. They could throw the cement up on the wall or whatever. And the guys with the weak hands, I don't care how big and strong their shoulders and backs and chest and everything else were, if their hands were weak, it was like, doesn't matter. You can't connect to anything. It doesn't matter at all. Then when I got into judo and wrestling and jiu-jitsu, I'm going to tell you right now, you tangle with a guy who's got really strong hands. You can be stronger everywhere else. You're in trouble. He's going to get a coldia and you know it. You feel it. They grab you. And my dad was like that. My dad came and did jiu-jitsu at almost 50. And everybody called him iron grip because if you got a whole day, you're fucked. Do you think his hands were so strong? So then I started to really value that and I got rid of the trap. I think you have to be honest with yourself and just, you know, if you are somebody who can't lift over, you know, 300 pounds without any strap for like deadlift, but you can do 500-something pounds with the straps. That's a huge discrepancy from that. I was never like that. I could still overhand 550 and pull it up bare-handed without straps. I would use it like, for example, one of the areas that I really focused on when I was competing was my rear delts. It was one of the things that separated me. I felt from a lot of my peers. I was really good at training them. And the mechanics on a rear delt fly, for example, is it's really easy to allow traps or other muscles to kick in to overcompensate for the movement. And when I worked myself up to where I could control very controlled rear delt fly with 50-pound dumbbells. Now, you do that controlled as a rear delt fly after your forearms get trashed from that. And then the next thing I know, I'm fighting it with my forearms and I'm not feeling it in my rear delts. So you'd see me strap up on something like that, which is an unusual exercise to do it. But there was logic behind why I was doing it. It wasn't an ego thing of, I need to just show everybody I can do 50-pound dumbbells. No, I worked my rear delt strength up to that. But then if I got that heavy of weight to control that with my forearms, really, really tough, and then I would lose the purpose of why I was doing that exercise. So there's all about the intention.