 Nigel, what a win against world number two Fabi, you must be absolutely delighted. Yeah, ecstatic. I think I played a really good game today. I was quite focused and there was just one bit in the game that I was not so sure about. I think when I had an overwhelming position, I'm not entirely sure I should have gone for this ending, but it was good enough. Maybe he could set up a different defence. I'm not 100% sure, but obviously I was pressing more or less the whole game. Probably a different defence, but it never seemed like the defence could be good enough in that ending. I mean, I would have to analyse it. He suggested something after the game as being an improvement, but it didn't seem to work as far as I could tell. So yeah, I was just on the ball today. There were certain moments, small things. There was a moment when I played Bishop takes d5, which was like an anti-positional move, but it's followed up because I'm attacking his bishop. There's some tactical reason why it's working, and then his bishop is driven into a passive position. So there were certain things like that, which you've got to be alert to. Even after having a better position, you have to look at his pawn. I got a very nice position. I don't know what the theory is at all in this line. I decided to sacrifice a pawn, and he seemed very surprised by this, and I think he has to take it. Instead, he was taken aback when he saw this, and he played a different option. I don't think it's the sort of position that you can play bailout moves. Maybe he misjudged it because it looked very unpleasant for him, the opening, and then he decided to sacrifice a pawn. It's actually a horrible decision, but I understood it. I was thinking about it myself, that this was maybe his best try, but it's ugly, very, very ugly. But sometimes these guys, they hang tough. They feel that they've got great resilience, and he's probably waiting. Every resource? Yeah, that's right. Waiting for an old man to blunder later on, but it didn't come. It absolutely did not happen. Just going back to the opening, e4, c6, the caro con, it's not something that he employs usually, but we've seen Tabiano do it a couple of times. Were you expecting it today? No, I wasn't expecting it at all. I mean, my preparation was basically trying to decide which my first move was going to be, so I hadn't really thought too much about what he... I actually expected some Sicilian, to be honest. He plays e5 as well quite often, but I thought he would be looking for... In open tournaments, without taking great risk, you're looking to try and win and not be ultra-solid, so it's a different style from playing in these absolute elite events. I don't think one should blame that. He got a bad opening. You shouldn't blame the opening in itself. I think he just didn't respond well to the new situation. I play something he was unfamiliar with, and I think he... There's very often that phase when you go from memory to having to think for yourself, and this is a very, very dangerous phase for all players, even for the absolute elite. Quite often people don't get the intensity of concentration that they need when they're going from routine, rote memory to thinking for themselves. I think he didn't respond well, and I got some advantage. There were some little subtleties, actually. I did quite nicely some A3, H3 as well. You were very pleased with the way you played. Yeah, there were some points to these moves. I was quite deep into the position, understanding the finesses, I think. In fact, with Fabi, we've often noticed that he does employ the caracan when he wants to create an unbalanced position, trying to create chances to, of course, win with Black as well sometimes, which did not go very well for him today. We've seen Nikita do the same thing employing... Yeah, sure. I mean, I've been playing the caracan here in Gibraltar myself, and have had reasonable results up to a point with it. So, yeah, I mean, you can win with absolutely any opening. It depends. You just don't want a symmetrical position. Right, but now I do not have to say you say that you were not expecting it, but you went with second move Knight C3, and that's also not the most topical way. You would normally go E4 C6 D4 in your own games. So was that just something that you decided over the board, or something you had in mind that in case the caracan came up, you wanted to go for Knight C3? Look, I've been around for a thousand years, so I've played all systems. And this is, you know, this sort of two-night system is one that I play from time to time, and in fact, I beat Max Rothstein last year, and that's not on the database, by the way, so in this Checkmate TV tournament. So, you know, that is not known. So he wouldn't have prepared. He probably wasn't expecting it to go this way. I don't know. I mean, I think he probably thought it was one of the things I could do, but I play various systems. Right, now this seems to be the first checking the database. It was your first win against the 2800-plus player since 1993, since your match against Gary. Since before your mother was born, anyway. That is not exactly correct, but yeah, it's been a while. I mean, this makes it more special, but of course just beating the world number two is... Yeah, I mean, the numbers are really pretty relevant to me, but the fact that it's the world number two, a fantastically strong player, and I've had my chances against him previously. I actually had a tragic last round, a number of years ago in Vaikanzai in the B tournament. Yeah, can you imagine? He was playing in the B tournament. We were both there. And I outplayed him and I was winning, and I saw a winning combination, and I somehow failed to play it because of some oversight of mine. Actually, I couldn't count the pieces. And, you know, I lost that game quite tragically. And I just sort of felt that I missed chances against him. Yeah, he's a very difficult guy to beat in general. He is world number two for a reason. Yeah, there is... And I was okay about it, but you suddenly start thinking that, you know, here's the guy who started with seven out of seven in St. Louis, you know, beating Carlson and everything. Oh, my God, you know, I'm up against him here. But it's all right. And actually, in fact, he hasn't... He's had a pretty good run, not losing a single game in over 50 games as well. This is his first loss in a really long time. Yeah. Well, it's got to happen sometime, and I'm glad it was me. In fact, one of the first people to congratulate you was none other than Gary Kaspro with his tweets, so that felt good as well. Yeah, that's right. The old is sticking together, so... Rooting for each other? Yeah, no, it's very funny. Right, and now how are you going to celebrate? I'm actually pretty tired because it was a long game, and that's all right. I don't mind being tired if I win. So I think I'll have a fairly quiet evening. I'll have a glass of wine, but early to bed, and I think there are plenty more very tough games. I find that very hard to believe. No, well, I need to catch up. I actually felt a little bit tired today, but it was a long game. But I think I was just in a good place psychologically. Right, well, congratulations once again. Long tournament to go, and we hope to have you back in our studio soon. Thanks, Tanya. Thanks, Nigel.