 So I've had an opportunity today to Go over a job. We're kind of in the middle of even though we only started yesterday I didn't have any time to film it But we get a lot of progress done really quick and this is a new office build and we're using the bridal rings to do all The wiring now. I can't show you absolutely everything today Because I just don't have the time to film all of it and my crews working diligently because this was a interesting job that Well, whatever happened to cause this It was like an afterthought to get us here. So we got all the wires rain up here Let me see if I can get that looked up there a little bit Well, thank you. So that's how they look when you run them through the proper bridal rings and we have from ceiling I mean ideally you do not want to just run the wires on top of the drop ceiling now normally and the right reason I see this jobs a little bit of Backwards so we started with the bid we're getting the schematics But what turned into a real problem for us was we thought this was going to be a raw construction when we got through here We're like the drywall is almost up and the customer after we did the approval They were loading the drywall in the building, but they hadn't finished all the walls Well, now they've got all the walls finished and then they approved our bid and even a general contractor is kind of like You guys usually come in beforehand like yeah, we do we don't really know the this is one of the out-of-state jobs that Well, we're in-state they're out-of-state. So they contracts do this work So some things aren't here yet So we're building out as fast as we can and we've got a lot of the wires ran But as you notice I'm standing in the server room with absolutely nothing it so the Anti-static floor and everything actually been installed if you look just these little copper pieces down here So they put this in it's a nice large the server room But because we just started the job yesterday when we got an approval We ordered all the parts and well we can only get here They didn't want any of the racks that we had they wanted us to specifically order them from a specific vendor a Specific model and the fastest that vendor even with expedited shipping isn't going to be here till Friday. So this is kind of Become we're gonna have all the wiring ran before then the customer They wouldn't deviate on that specifics But we were able to get here before the furniture people because this is another aspect of the wiring you have to consider when you're doing these wiring jobs is They wanted whisker boxes not cat five on the wall Normally our preference would be to pour it to the wall and then pour it in here But instead they wanted these will refer to as whisker boxes and I'll show you closer with those look like So this just kind of comes through here And then we're running them into the cubicles directly before the furniture's built So they're gonna have them all in here. We coordinate with the furniture people in the GC so we can make Make all that happen. So that's getting all done. Everything's kind of getting done as fast We're actually my crew was here till 2 a.m. Yesterday And we'll be here all night tonight again running all these cables and wires until every single wire is pulled punched and ready Now because this building was being remodeled all this is new construction and a new construction actually ends here And this is some of the craziest stuff I ever seen So this is all live this runs another office and they haven't moved it yet So this company's also moving to this office and this is still here and yes They took cut cable and that's only dangling. I don't want to touch anything because it literally kind of moves a little bit So this is all running server equipment. That's just Balanced here. So they have some rope holding that To this so it doesn't topple over It's ridiculous. I uh, I don't know We were we're trying to find out that way this needs to be redone We no one knows who's doing it currently we we're not sure exactly what floor this belongs to because it all goes up into a Ceiling and no one's been really clear about that to us because we just got in here started working So we're working that because someone needs to do something about that. That's that's clearly not supposed to be that way But I want to take a second talk about wiring jobs in general So a lot of the questions that come up with them is how do we bid them? How do we put them together and a lot of it starts with some schematics and normally a lot of careful planning But then I don't understand this industry as well as far as construction in the way these goes Sometimes low voltage cabling isn't afterthought so and I kind of feel that's how we were We don't know any of the history that led up to this company calling us We expect it to be like any other project until we got here and realized that We were like the last to know about this building build out and obviously a large construction project like this Is a fairly sizable office and I'm probably 3,000 square feet here build out with about 150 drops going in That's a lot of equipment they have coming in here for a lot of tech stuff They need but we just now started after the drywalls already up and everything else So this makes bidding a little bit different. So there's like a new construction type of bid versus a We're gonna do an existing because existing means we cut holes and place things So we're literally here cutting holes and brand-new drywall that should have been placed as part of the plan But that's all part of the job when we do some of these bids and it's it's a tricky thing in business to do but what we try to do is come up with a really a Market price for this and the pricing in dollars isn't really what's important That's gonna vary by whatever city-state you're in because of codes and regulations and cost But to give you an idea we put them a price per drop So once we look at the building and realize the average distance of them We're gonna average it all out and we're gonna say it's this much per drop And the reason we do that is because it makes it a lot easier for the client when there's changes like this I'm actually standing at what a schematic shows to be one two three four cubicles But there's more there's actually six all together here That was not in a plan. That's not in a bid. That's not in the design But because we gave them a per drop rate breakdown it made it really easy for us just to see how the How this was already in here we messaged them It's this much per drop and so here's four more drops copy added and we're done We they give me a price so there's no more recalculating the bid There's no more rethinking any of it and that's you know the if you're into cabling at all This is a really important aspect to think about is come up with okay for all the TVs I'm gonna come up with this much to mount each TV because we're gonna do the TV mounts each TV needs a jack each TV Needs an H minus so you break down a price per unit multiply it out And whether or not you share those prices directly with the client or you keep them in a spreadsheet as job notes The important part is that if something changes you can very quickly go You know from the call we got of hey, there's more cubicles over in this area And there's actually a couple more in another area. It makes us very fast to go Oh, we know how much per drop we bid this job at so we right away get the client And because they'd already approved our rates From the time we sent them an email it was 20 minutes later. They said yeah, go ahead and add the drops on there We've already approved we told them what the price increase would be they already approved it and the drops are in It's as simple as that. That's one of the concepts I think a lot of people do is they try to calculate just how many hours it will take them and how long am I take them Job experience gives us, you know, all my guys have been doing this for a while So it gives us more of an experience to go. Okay, we can estimate that our head We treat we have a pretty standard rate per drop that we charge and I don't have to say the rate Not because I'm worried about sharing my prices at all But it's really it's wherever you are unless you're in my exact area. That rate may not be relevant I know in the UK. It's a lot more in the California can be more because there's more code issues as I understand And in Michigan is nice where we are here in Michigan Detroit area. There's no certifications necessary No, like electrical search or anything. So that actually makes the price per drop a little lower because really anyone can do this job Well, I say anyone can do it. There's not a lot of people that can do it, right? The mess as we see like what that little mess is back there and there's actually another wiring closet I'm not gonna go into because There's every no-no in there as far as passwords just out in the open It's a common comm room and the control systems the passwords are all taped to the monitors. I'm not walking in that room I'm just Not with a camera on I was like it's it's a ridiculous mess in there, too but so it's an important to do it all right and Make sure you have a common markup for all this and the common bid price and Make sure you go over a scope of work of what the client expects and that's something was really important his job Such as you because they're out of state. So everything's kind of been non You know, you can't really read people when you're not in front of them So with this we have a really detailed scope of work because they don't know what this building looks like They only see it from photos that we actually sent them of where it was at And it's caused some discrepancies in how they asked the GC to build it out So you you're three people deep in this so having a nice clear scope of work and also having references to that because back to the specifics of the job they had such detail this these IT Company that we're doing this for the IT who runs this company. They are extremely specific on Exactly the type of rack unit they want they color coded it and we want every piece every jack color coded Labeled in a certain order. There's a lot of specifics. And of course we told them no problem We're gonna add some hours in because of the level of detail matter of fact when we get the patch panels Then I'm gonna do a video about them because they're different than normal patch panels that we the ones we prefer they have patch panels that are Run with push-in jacks now I've seen these before we've we've done them But they're kind of a stranger design and I don't think they look as nice But they are specific that those exactly the type they want it's just like our preference would be to double jack So you bring it to the wall and then go into that furniture But their preference was not to do that we offered it and they said no that isn't how it goes So those are all important you know aspects and parts to think about it now You know some of the other things to think about there's some spots in here where underground flooring and that's cool But you have to learn clear out who's doing it Which it should be the general contractor because they have the core cement so you but they work with the flooring people The second part is you have to ask this because if they don't is there a pulse string in the tube once they do it You can get a pulse string in a tube when you're After it's already run. It's a lot harder to do use lesion air blower to get it through there Thankfully they put as they ran these they put in pulse strings before they cemented them all in The other part where there was a discrepancy as we had to double check they said there was a basement This is a poured concrete floor. There's no basement because they told us to drill up from run down through somewhere and come back up And we're like you can't drill down through the IT room and run back up. It's all sealing. It's no basement this is ground level and It's funny the out-of-state company leased it. They would seem insistent and had it in there So these are all important things when you're doing the bid process that you look through things really thoroughly And I I never understood like some people want us to give rates I can give Generalized rates, but I'll never submit to a bid that I haven't done a walk-through that I haven't popped a whole ceiling tile or two Looked inside look at my runs where I'm gonna go Confirm what exact cable they want and everything else and you know then we're gonna do it, right? They also we won't take shortcuts. You know if it the job on it like this We do everything to spec and follow it. It's not we don't do anything I'm just gonna use word half-ass that's important. So when we put all together That's a really important aspect when we're bidding this but I'll follow this job a little bit more We're gonna do some maybe time-lapse videos once the rack comes in But we're getting everything done because they they wanted all the wiring arm are doing as much as we can done But we know we're gonna be held up on at IT room because they said the company that we ordered it from is Not a company I'd heard of previously. It's not a rack I had seen previously and I'll do a video on it. I don't know why they like it so much I think they just have that rack in their office at their other offices out of state. So they wanted the exact same Rack here and it's just a two-post rack I don't see anything that special about it But they specifically said we had to order this one and they sent us the links to the one We wanted over there. So all right. Thanks for watching if you like the content here like described That's kind of a quick overview of one the project we're working on and I wanted to talk a little bit about you know The bidding process and how how we do that because a lot of times that comes up I see it come up in a lot of forums and things like that But we'll also if I can we're gonna do some detailed videos if I can't have a chance at this one So far because it's a new construction shouldn't be any issues with filming Everything but I know once it comes to any other IT equipment these people because it's medical It's not once any of the company names go up We have to stop filming because that's all privacy issues that they have concerns about So we always have to respect the privacy of our clients and things like that. So thanks again for watching