 Talk one-on-one. Yeah, we gonna talk. We gonna have fun. We be on fire. We'll be lately It's a unique hustle big shit big shit big shit big shit It's a unique hustle nigga big shit big shit big shit big shit Name another podcast like this. Check it. Check it. Check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy ECO And I'm here with the lovely amazing official miss Jamaica. What's going on? Man, hey, man, I'd be excited man when I get these type of guys in here, man This guy here, man, y'all don't know it but hey the newest and the hottest man to be honest with you I've been checking him out man. Hey, man, I you know, I used to be a Bubba Sparks fan But man ain't gonna lie. He was lyrical. You know what I'm saying? I liked him and him to be honest with you I was like, okay, you know and so when I looked at y'all vanilla ice all that different stuff the white rappers Dallas P Post Malone when you do his lyrics. I say man what it's got fit in But man yellow wolf up down the wall with me You know I'm saying machine gun Kelly that I met at the at the palms hotel where we was checking in together, man It's going down, baby. Oh, baby. My boy Moolah is in the building What's up, man that introduction was cold What's up with you she you know just this working man putting as much work as possible You just flew in from Miami. You just come on in this thing man Got on this boss talk level man. Just hop off the plane at 10 with Thomas at 11 So yeah, yeah, 45 minute drive. Yeah, so so Oh, you gonna get all in his business shit on the cool we flew it like so my little schedule was we came down to Dallas On Tuesday last week. I did the little interview with Jerry Sparry in their real life I appreciate y'all and we shot the music video with one of my artists out here drill a baby He's okay. Yeah, he from Hammond, Louisiana, but he stayed out here in Dallas now So we shot that little music video. It's gonna be hard and then woke up the next morning shot straight out to Miami That was on we's out here for like three-fold a shot out here shot straight to Miami then we Shot a music video out there Did a little show got a couple features in you know what I mean? I'm just fucked around for a little bit and we really ain't do no fucking around like having no fun Enough work fucked around at work. I didn't even get to see the beach I'm pissed off about it too. I'm the coolest first time ever been on the floor You know what we didn't then kill a No, because we go we go to LA all the time and we see that we didn't go when I tell you LA beaches I don't really like LA Beach. I like San Diego Beach. Yeah, San Diego nice. You see what I mean? So it's like nowadays. It's like Exactly exactly. Well, you know, mr. Maker from Jamaica, so she really down playing all the beaches Trying to go out there No, but I love San Diego Beach San Diego Beach nice I will jump in San Diego waters, but not LA water San Diego got them big-ass waves. Oh, you feel me they'd be surfing their ass off But it's not as cold though. Oh my god, that water is cold. Definitely. I learned how to scuba dive out in the LA Yeah, it's like it's mad cold out there. Yeah, let boy say scuba dive. He really white When he say scuba diving like they just scuba dive shoot in Jamaica a lot of black folks scuba You niggas ain't regular I was on the only white dude there on the cool A couple of black dudes it was more Indian people. Okay. Okay. Yeah, the people that are like people want to swim with the dolphins and swim with The sharks and all of that stuff. No, I'm cool. It's hard cuz you can breathe though. You feel me It's like you ain't got it's just like we talking we can breathe the same way. You just down in the water I'm not doing Oh Say man, so let's get into it man. Let's do it how we do it on boss talk man We like to go back in way back When you were growing up who you're growing up with your environment all of that Did you want to rap when you were younger? You wanted to inspire to be somebody else for sure? Uh, I Always was around hip-hop. You know to me growing up as a kid Like I remember I went to the school and hot springs Arkansas to start it's called Langston and Langston was like I don't know what the school would be like here because I'm not from here But like it's like the lower poverty all the little baby kids go there You feel me, but it's set up that way You know what I mean because of the credit situation and how they got the world set up No, like if you have low credit and shit you go to that's you know, I mean you can live on that side of town Type shit majority white black. No, it's a majority black people. It was like probably like 80 90% black people And then it was like five percent Latino and then five percent other. Okay, it was like white people was in with the Yeah, the Asian people with others But it was cool man. It was a I always wanted to I always wanted to be in music for show Like I knew I was gonna be in music and then when they had like the you know And on the playground where people would just rap and freestyle and shit Like I was always like the kid who would rap the white boy and they'd be like Yeah, you are but you just go too fast and shit And you feel me it was like just a little little critiquing things and shit and I Really developed into a I wish I could go back and rap with them now and see who the hottest So what did your parents say about you wanting to pursue a rap at a young age? They always supported it like They just they knew I was musically inclined because I always play guitar and piano Did you get it from your mom and daddy or somebody? No, I honestly neither one of them played any music I kind of just learn like I got a guitar when I was like six years old and I started teaching myself how to play And I started watching other people and then I learned about chord progression. I learned about melody I learned about how to read sheet and sheet you feel me so I can like write and sheet music So they didn't have that in school like for music like music classes kind of choir choir help me a little bit Okay, like I was a choir boy instead of so you can sing yeah I was an all-states ten or two in Arkansas, which is like out of the whole ten or two I was number two for three years in a row. Yeah, I went to college for like a semester. I got a little fool, right? Oh And I've seen you a real musician too We don't get into that but just to be able to say I'm from Arkansas where you know Not only Bill Clinton, but Jerry Jones. Let's get it. I like that money I'll fuck with Jerry Jones is from down in Arkansas. Yeah, and not only them that don't leave out See James. Yeah, no, no, wait a minute. See James. He don't know who the hell is see James in a Todd Jesse McDonald. All right, Sam Walton, though That's a bad bar right there. His kid doesn't move his daughter over there in Fort Worth She worth about 40 bill on me. Hey, I was a I was at the Arkansas Razorback games I mean a little sweets and some lady bumped into me and we was just talking shit And she ended up being a she was a like a head. She was a Walton She was like one of the little daughters and shit. She was but I knew it from her Louis Vuitton I was really low-key You didn't get to plug it in did you? No, it was like a first time and she got to see my face next time if I see It's going down So she was the younger younger she's probably like 40 you feel me? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's young because young enough you feel me I mean she could have been old They can try to get it together when you get out and get around in billions But my baby mom would have been in my ass until she got that new McLean She'd been like, oh, you need to go see Sarah So how is it like being raised in an era where it's predominantly black? It's different, but I feel like When I when I see when I hear about racism and shit like I don't want to say it like I understand it But I feel like I kind of get an idea, you know The meaning like how it feels to walk in a room and be the only person and have people looking at you because of the Color of your skin and judging you because of the color in your skin and shit So like I get it and I mean I wasn't nothing like the African community went through you feel me like it wasn't even close But like I kind of get a little sliver of how that feels and it makes me use empathy like I understand more You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I understand how you could feel Yeah, I mean like it's Empathizing about how like if something crazy happened and it wasn't like that tons of million, you know to me Not 100 did you ever had people looking at you and be like man, you're trying to be black man Of course, of course, but like especially not not in my city because everybody kind of is like that in my city Right, everybody get it from both sides white people telling you that black people Why people look at me and they're like and black people look at me and they're like you feel me So it's just like I don't really get the fit in but it's cool because I know I'm not a friendly type of dude I don't hang out with a bunch of people you feel me I just kind of kick it with my family and myself and my team Yeah, so it's cool. I gotta get to isolate the people behind me, but like speaking on that subject I remember black history month I was the only white kid and we were watching the show about you know the way that black people were treated and shit And they were gonna whip this shit on the TV and this one girl Katrina Evans you fucking bitch, and I'm playing with you She walked up and punched me in my shit She was like, this is for your grandpa. Yeah, I think my shit. No No, okay. Wow, that's crazy On me though. So you really you really you really get that No, she was embarrassed you feel me because it was like I was the only white dude there So what am I supposed to say? Yeah, you couldn't do that. I was like damn I like it man. At the end of the day, that's a part of life, man You go through this stuff man. This is life life steps up and do things that you don't expect And that's the part that you got to be willing to be able to you know Transform and conform to to be able to understand. Hey Things gonna happen, you know, I imagine how it feels to get so angry is somebody like because of something that you see something that your ancestors went through That you last shout at somebody that because of their answers at ancestry for me So it's like I understand that like not think on it now and I'm like Damn, she must have really been hurting or some shit. You feel me like I must have Yeah, she might have just been being petty I Y'all young man, I'll be man. Come on man. How do you 25? See y'all I'm saying y'all know You know, I met Harriet Tubman No, but but the thing you got to understand is we we living in a new day, man I I had this questionnaire and I asked people was I think it was and it wasn't that Charlemagne gave Joe Rogan a pass for Using the n-word, but it was like hey, man, you know, you know, he shouldn't have said it and I felt it But it wasn't under where he said hey, man, you know That was wrong for him to do that or whatever it was like. Yeah Well, you got to watch what you say cuz it'll come back on you and all that but you do Understand that our history is gonna play part in different situations when you run around here acting as if it didn't really just You know don't matter if you have another race and you know, you know, I have worked with people and they They they we have odds because their grandfather Was in the Civil War and they trying to uplift the fact that they grandfather was in the Civil War to me But I'm just saying this is what we live in in the south where I feel sure the rebel flags are still flying high in certain Yeah, and so now you get people that's working with you to say my granddaddy was in there and all that It's like I don't care My grandpa my great-grandparents actually to be real with you my grandparents my ancestry come from France Okay, we came over in the like the 1940s Yeah, and we came to Louisiana and we we Creole you feel me? That's why I kind of got a weird little accent but like my grandmother only spoke French and Creole So like she ain't even speak English and So we my ancestors never owned any slaves Because your people Emmanuel and John do it all them people the Frenchman's and all of them that was dealing with yeah, all of them Yeah, and then a lot of people don't understand European the white people it wasn't just black and white people is poor people slaves in the Europe you feel me and then that's what they were breaking away from they were my Ancestries with slaves on their time. It wasn't like whooping them slaves here in the Americas We got we actually fucked up over here. No, it's crazy that yeah, you know, it's just crazy It's crazy because it's such a it's such a Thin line that you have to walk when you deal with all this It's a very touchy. I got friends who say the n-word and shit. I just like our Refuse like I've just been in such a sentence certain situations where it's like, you know It's just never cool. Have you ever been around a situation where you are around all white people? And they were talking bad about blacks. Of course. Hell yeah. What did you do in that situation? Did you just sit there and be quiet or did you speak out? My bestest friends have always been black ever forever you feel me as long as I can grow up My bestest friends was black, you know what I mean? So it wasn't like so it was always like my brother's friends would come over and I'd be like yo like My homie Kimo isn't here right now. Like why are you talking like that? You don't think that make him uncomfortable gang like what's up, you know what I mean? So I was always that person trying to be like, oh Think about what you saying, bro. Yeah, think about how you feel how you making other people's feel because you may just be talking Out your ass right now. I really offended somebody because I know people who are like that who will actually speak out But and I know people who you know have black friends and cool with them And then you know be one way in front of you and then when they go around their other friends They just like them. I feel like that's what every not not in that way I feel like white people click up and talk shit about every race Black people click up and talk shit Jamaicans Make us click up and act like they better than all of Americans a lot of time when they hear Africans they do it too. So And then our people a lot of time the American black people sometimes get lazy So we need to all step our game up and try to be better humans for this universe Period We have something come but but but y'all It don't matter if you're black or white, you know what I'm saying y'all pissed off and he said it was another song He made right after that. So at the end of the day, everybody go through racial different situations ever to and it's every It's just personal everybody I just wanted will there ever be a day when you know We all just learn how to love each other and accept each other I pray for it man. It's like I pray for those days that like we can just all get together and be like You know What in my mind? I always say, you know what cuz it's gonna be a point where all of these Interracial marriages end up being everybody's so mixed. There's no pure Right so like how are you gonna be racist against? Yeah, but it's always gonna be the vision But you know what it's gonna be deficient about You're a little bit like although everybody's mixed you're a little bit lighter. You're darker It's gonna be something that's gonna cause division because that's what a devil does it comes to steal kill and destroy And it's always gonna be the haters hate on you cuz you're rich or poor Rich or poor light what you wear with your shoes Well, let's sit on these lyrics though man How you end up being so so lyrical and and he didn't get it from nobody Yeah, and you didn't ain't nobody in your family your cousin them probably work over that They probably got a car dealership On the phone over here So so how did you end up like like what when you first knew that you was gonna be a musician I know you went to all those you started younger you started young But when you first really when did you started really taking serious? I started taking shit serious I kind of like not always took it serious I started doing like little talent shows and I win them like, you know what I mean and people would be like Oh, you're on the cool when I was like 14 I'll go to church with my little guitar. I get all the little girls you feel me I'm like, oh shit like they like this shit. You feel me like That's what he did it for for the girl First you feel me cuz I was like man, I kind of I sound good You feel me and it's like oh they're telling me I sound good But then like I said I got I went through like a little injury couldn't play guitar piano like you broke a window So what happened with that entry? He broke someone to let him tell it one of my partners One of my partners brothers, he was bad on some of that, you know that shit That's coming our communities right now. You know me so I thought that Thought that he might have stole something that my brother had loaned me So I went over to his house to get it But they was ducking me you feel me like I was knocking on the door and I seen a moving in the window And they wasn't trying to open the door so I like put my arm through that window But with some shoes I was knocking on the window with the shoes afterwards I was like, I see y'all here and my shit went straight through and then dude came out trying to fight me And I was like, oh, it's over now gang like I'm about to die My arm so bad I had to get 37 stitches to sew my arm back together and then 18 dissolvable ones to sew my muscle back together Did anybody hit you like why you did he try to hit you? No, he like came out I was like, oh, it's over gang. What you doing? Did the Injury cause any harm it caused nerve damage. I can't really feel these two fingers anymore I had to I had to relearn how to use my left hand and like and as a pianist or I can't do it like that. Oh, so it kind of put me like a little spiraling depression for like two Three years went and really got as much money as I could and then I realized You know, there's still other ways to make music out here But is there a way you can relearn how to play the piano? Yeah, you know without using those two fingers. Yeah, I've been practicing like I've been really practicing and getting better at like And it's they're not gone forever like they're gonna reattach themselves They just said it's like 10 years 15 years for me to gain and therapy Are you still going through a lot of therapy for like the first two and a half years Just don't learn how to like do that But now that I'm good they were like all your straight years just gonna come back But the fucked up thing about nerve damage is a nerve sensor when it gets cut it's sending a signal It's like out of shit hurts out of shit hurts But it can't go through because there's nothing to connect it So when it finally reconnects it sends that signal so like five years later, I'll be like Wow, it's trash, but it's like it's something I go through all the time every day Well, at least you know that it's working. Yeah, you're getting the signal now. It's coming back I'm gonna be a problem in a couple years Wait, so I get you better be glad you got your arm cut that day for you get whooped up Bob. I mean What's them cats man? It was it was like my brother, bro. It's like my brother. Are y'all friends now? Yeah, we still cool. It was like my brother's brother though You feel me it was like him, but he was bad on that shit. You feel me? So it's like it wasn't even really him, but yeah, come to find out. He ain't even still it I Name some people when we first started up I named a yellow wolf, of course he up on the wall and I didn't get to take pictures with machine gun Kelly, but I definitely We be tall. Is he falling perfect? We yeah, he not really dead. He bought six foot. Maybe he looked like he'd be tall No, he ain't that tall. He ain't that tall, but he he cool we was at the look the counter talking and He he he's definitely lyrical to when he had that little run in with him and him I thought it was good for me to get out there and swing. He wouldn't I mean, of course the eminem Yeah, he's got but still he got some punches in and and and so when I seen that and just talking about it Just thinking about it Where do you think you fall when it comes to lyrics dealing with with the with that situation even even with the Dallas peas and just all the people the post Malone Where do where do moolah fall in the midst of this? How do you get in the door and say Nick? I'm here It's just gonna take consistency. It's just gonna take keep putting out that hard work lyricist wise like yeah I want I gotta get better though on lyrics like you don't feel yet. You're not even pushing like I freestyle my shit You feel me like all my words I get and I just hit it and then punch it So it's like if I could sit down and actually write it and stuff, but sometimes I'm great ones are Off the dome like I mean most all of my good music is off the dome when I sit down and write I feel like I do too much so that's why I had to stop doing it But what I need to do what I'm learning how to do right now is I freestyle my song and I go back and I write bars in the flow you feel me so it's like I Makes them make more sense and it's more harder. You feel me? Okay, but what's fucked up is I made a song like that Made another song with harder bars the exact same song in a label was like I fucked that one We going with the original you feel me so it's like you can't wait for losing out here I always do too to give people an option because whoever especially if you're doing a feature or whatever That's something to choose from but what I'm like like when you think about it though, I asked you that because Yeah, you got to kick the dough in you can't be like the regular. What make you different? I mean you got now Bubba Sparks will kick it Bubba side of Bubba Sparks He came with the whole just I don't give a damn. I'm letting it all hang out I like the reference with Bubba Sparks Then I started looking into him and I was like, okay You look like him now. I'm just talking about the lyrics. He could be hard. Yeah, like ain't nobody People the other day even I'm gonna get him on the show. He did the grill for me Yeah That nigga right there boy go hard too boy. He sound black though. See that's the difference between you sound like a brother Yeah, he's sound like a brother Like a real song to come off and it smile. Oh, that's the best one up But man when him and Camille was going they think man. Oh man Camilla Terry man in him They I don't think even though they came off different like a part. I still don't think nothing nothing beats them together He would like it's crazy because like it's I feel like that with money bagging only and be a young boy Isn't that crazy? Yeah, how they made that album. It was so hard and then they just don't fuck with each other. It's sad When I when I think about those guys and then I put, you know, like I said I'm looking to see where you gonna fall in that whole that whole algorithm So that's what I'm gonna be trying to figure out. You know what I'm trying to do I'm trying to bring authenticity though I try to bring like Sensuality of like what I really did you feel me and it's like or like what what I've seen Arkansas though, baby, they ain't from Arkansas. You got to run with that on me You got Jerry Jones. Like I said earlier. You got Bill Clinton. You got the Waltons We got a little man. You got to start putting something in your lyrics. Let's be real That's why they moved me up to Fayetteville was because like I got touched in with a shout out to Nick Smith He coming to play for the hogs next year. Okay number one player in the whole country high school and like Couple different law high school recruits so we can get tapped in with the Arkansas Razorback basketball team and the football team That's dope. You know coach Muscleman. He already he's trying to give us like floor seats and stuff You feel me for the events. That's dope. And I'm really not say I'm gonna be real with you when you think about The one to like here you got the row you got you got the row you got He that's it that deal with the sports. Yeah, exactly. He linked in with the Cowboys Yeah, he get plugged in with the Cowboys. No, he's he's with them like they got a deal with him no where he can Many people got there. So if you make something like that happen, that'd be dope Yeah, I'm trying to just get it to her like because you know I'm from Arkansas Like it's a big community the Razorbacks is big in me. It's the big in the state biggest shit in the state So if I can get them I was at the show with the Arkansas Auburn game and I was there and I was thinking like damn There's 20,000 people here. What if they played my song right now? You feel me like shit like that and it started getting me to where I was like damn We need to figure out how we can get involved with the Razorbacks and put that shit up together. Yeah, Jerry Jones can come He played for the Hawks actually seen him on campus. Did you driving around a brand-new Lamborghini shit? I was like damn You know, he get all the girls out there. I'll be like, he don't even play though So he's he won't gotta play fourth straight quarterback, but he's still he don't care He don't care about Straight and all right go play for the Cowboys. They never touched the field. Hey, man Go ahead. I know you um, we were listening to an interview earlier and you were talking about since you talked about Arkansas You were talking about is it Bill Clinton? Mm-hmm. That he had a black son You know this guy You know that's Bill Clinton son. Yes, it's been did they do a DNA test, bro? You have to look into it because it's like hold on look I'm trying to tell you Bill Clinton is a shiesty. He's a he's a he's a he does look just like him even as a He doesn't bright skin. I'm trying to tell you he his mama No, no disrespect his mama was a working lady. You feel me and Bill Clinton invested in her and she got pregnant and You know, he actually was sin. It's like a known thing He would send presents to her house through the police would show up and send presents for Christmas to his house every Christmas for like 10 years 15 years He like does he take care of him? None of it. He lives in the fucking projects in the city like it's terrible. It's like it's really wrong The mama needs to put him on child support. They won't they won't take a DNA test. It's the president. You feel me? It ain't they ain't giving him a DNA test take him to court that they've been trying to Come on, they take him to court. You think a bill clean can't go ahead. He's not gonna That's what I'm saying. He's screwed. He is Bro, but he looked just like him and his like it's a known thing in my city like everybody knew it when it happened So you telling me Bill Clinton has this boy will black kid. Yeah Man follow that to my number. You got my number. Send that to me, man. I just want that same one right there Hey, there's a thing that they say in Arkansas like don't play with Bill Clinton. You're gonna kill yourself So I can't post it on here But if you look in the you look into people who cross Bill Clinton, they all commit suicide. You feel me Look into it. He's a gangster like Bill Clinton. He came from the bottom really did his shit was really moving business doing everything He became the fucking president, bro. That's a killer move But I can't believe that this boy ain't ain't uh came out in the media Go to YouTube he's got millions of views on his shit people just been and nobody know because he's just he's already went through all The things and they've already told him now you can't do shit about it. So it's like, you know But that's YouTube has he been on all these news channels news. He's been on everything when Hillary Clinton ran again He was like Hillary. Why are you denying my access to finding out if this is my father or not? He asked her and she said next question online like he like asked her and he was in the fucking so you tell him So you telling me that basically is nothing he can do But he should have done a YouTube channel or something and just may make it about that So he could capitalize off of it because he looked just like him, bro He he is that's what I'm saying. It's it's legitimately. He needs to get up and run for president His name is Danny Williams, man. Danny Williams. He needs to go to school get his stuff together and Try to and he's a friend of yours. Yeah, I'm about to show you Like this is your can I get him on the show? I mean, I was trying to put him in a music video to you bro. Can I get this dude on this show? You probably could bro like, you know, I'm in yeah, I'll fly that dude in That's what I'm saying. What does he do? Nothing. Just be worse. He works at window mark. Yeah, he had the window mark. He come From the window mark. Yeah, he like here Yeah, give me that nigga Me and Danny been talking for a good minute. There's some shit on there. You probably know. Oh, yeah, that's your boy right there Yeah, you and him y'all be doing business. He lives with his mama He stayed he got three kids now. He's staying in the same apartment. I cut my arm in Really? No cap the same. So so you go so so all you need to do is this on the Instagram or this is the phone number That's my that's my Facebook. We personal person like that. All right, see them. See me. I'm gonna get his info I'm gonna try to get that ball in the show Cuz we need to understand if this be your son or not. I really am interested in that Yeah, I'm gonna try to sneak some DNA for him So let me ask you something man Okay, when you when you think about just being in the music industry, you got a song with a sensei Molly Sensei Molly, I've hit her up a couple of times to come on my show and she didn't come I had a little bro You know little bro little bro. She's been on here. Nice, but I ain't had since it And I hit her up. I hit her up and she ain't say nothing back in the Yeah, so, you know, yeah, maybe you can't smoke in here. This is this little clothing store But we'd like to have you out here. We got your boy here today mula Yeah, I'm gonna have to come through and rock with boss talk in Dallas, Texas man. Yeah, I gotta tell you But but no man, thank you for even coming on here and doing the show So how was it the process in that song with her and and just a whole just give me the spill on how y'all made that happen So like I made this song, uh, I was linked up a gutter TV. Shall I go to TV Arkansas? He lit out in Little Rock. I linked up a gutter and we did some business, whatever He locked me in flew out the LA and we was just going through You know our plan what we was gonna do and he was like, yo, I got you know, I'm managing sensei So like it would be hard for you to get on the track and my manager was like, oh We we do a lot of statistics like we doing a lot of numbers and seeing how many percentage of men and girls And all that following me and checking my shit out and we know this and I was having a lower percentage of females And then it was like 80 20 you feel me more men was checking me out So he went and was like it would make sense for me to get a song with a female so I can get more female Artists you feel me or more female fans So I listened to her whole catalog and he sent me two beats and he was like one of these beats Make it make some shit to her beats I listened to her whole little catalog and opera music right into the studio and I made that one So I had to buy a block for the shoot because I was like I was like damn I'm gonna have a shot. I'll have this shoot. I don't got a glock on me like damn I was like just what LA all my shit's a little rock And I was like damn I have to buy a block for the shoot And then I was like just went off that and just went in there and freestyle the whole little song and then Since he Molly came out like 10 days later shit Cuz I was out living at LA at the time because I was out there like 250 days last year Wow So did that increase or that increase your The viewers for female show for show since he and then like it showed me that like I have a I have a mainstream appeal to like I did the song and I and everybody's telling me like oh since he did awesome You did awesome y'all look like superstars. I'm thinking like damn all the females I got mad girls trying to hit me up like oh mother mother you're so far and then But the next step is to tame when he does you gonna get a month. We're gonna tame when he does over you already You working on they've already got the touch and we've already touched in got the feature price locked in and all that shit You feel me so it's like be careful them cameras, man. We got the peace pulling up nigga. We got the peace pulling up Yeah, yeah, we got the peace pulling up. It's a problem Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got these rappers in here see I know how to do it I do boss talk man. You never know what you're gonna see man. This family right here, man Yeah, you know, I had the When I see you on my intro video when I'll be doing the exo thing I said I got my boy piece man. He gonna pop up and pull it through. How you been? I've been chillin. Yeah, you've been chillin Doing my business shit. Hey, man. So this right here is mula, man. He got some of the sensei He got so yeah So man now but so that's one of them man, so give me a little spill on the The the NLE chop the chopper deal. How was that the tour with him and only chopper cool man He a real cool here kid. So it's like it was cool to see a young in like, you know I mean he like real young because I thought he was like 22-23 dude was like 18 17 19 years old and I was like damn. Yeah when you went on Right before COVID happened. We was on a I was doing a college show tour So it's like I was hitting all the universities University, Arkansas LSU. Yeah, Miss Alabama like all them And he was he was the main artist and I was just opening for him like matter of fact lead the first COVID case was in Louisiana and Baton Rouge the first one in the south and we had just did a show at LSU the day before that came out Yeah, and I was like in the crowd touching motherfuckers and shit You feel me like out there like turning up. You ain't have a dude. I came home and I felt fucked up for like three days First popped off so I'm scared to get the motherfucking test to see if I have When you really when it first hit nigga, I will come home and I didn't like neck it outside I take all my clothes off Yeah, yeah, I go in there and take a shower. I'm like, I don't want to mess my family up You like they didn't educate us on COVID at all Way bad like I got that shit. I never I never tested positive for it, but I'm pretty sure I got The mask on nigga I would run around croak with early in the morning for everybody get out Before everybody When it first started happening in China I had the motherfucking mask I was so anti-mayor so fucked it man. We are gonna catch it wasn't that People like it's just it's just a new common code. We got new generations coming out. So they got a Yeah, yeah, it's fucked though. They got the morphin like it's like fucking mutating Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but no So so how did you make the so how did you make the tour happen? Did you how did that somebody called you my cousin? Shout out cam and I never said Cam he might I came on the thing this one dude named Joe was his partner He was like, yo my cousin he he doing it like yeah, he's hard and it was before I was even like now Now if I had that shit, I'll go crazy It was like premature for me like I wish I could have waited until this part of my career now Because back then I wasn't even ready now. I could walk up and be like Turn up turn up with my shit like back then it was younger style mula They still was like damn you five Let's let's book you for these little five shows right here And we did the first five shows and there was like everybody loves you, bro We got 20 of them for you now. So we went on to 20 of them I did I need to perform with Roscoe dash to change money bag. Yo Italy chopper we did Roscoe or we did who's do chain Trinidad James. Mm-hmm. Yeah Gold all in my watch So when you so when you when you done it, I mean How did you feel you feel like okay now? I'm ready I'm gonna take this thing to the next level after that event I already knew that I want all that shit happened like when it happens, bro You there was a couple times in my career before this that like like enforcement Arkansas for a specific example I went into their perform with a dude named T. E. Okay still don't know who the fuck T is Enforcement's no disrespect to you T. E. We tap in you we could work you feel me But like I'm performing enforcement at this club and I got a Versace robot and I'm in here and they're both focus is booing me We're like Like in my face bro, because it was no stage I'm standing out here in the middle of everybody like a old school first-off concert There's like 30 people around and people are booing me in my face like boo, and I'll never forget that memory That was just that was just a bro. No, we're broke city There was a time. You don't say we don't know they're gonna know him now No, but on the cool I just did the little interviewing for Smith and like people know how I am there now you feel me So it's like so I come back in the city and like now I go to that same club. That's dope man That's dope. It's a cool turn around. So so I Guess I could ask you a top three artists of all time dead or alive. Dead or alive Number one Got no specific order They had Number three Yeah, let's get it popping man. I gotta figure out what what type of beat on the gear, you know, let me see You know, I you know me. I'm gonna try to find some. What do you like those? Like trappies brah like I like ESTG type shit right now. That's the shit the survive. I'm on the new ESTG shit Okay, I Detroit's how shit. Yeah, Detroit kind of I fuck with a side of baby out there I was fucking him in Miami recently I want them alley niggas than be filing off. They get so big they get the filing off this shit It was weird man It was weird hanging out It's weird because different artists are different levels and different times in the career You feel me so it's just weird hanging out with people in specific situations like, you know Chop was on the way up then he blew up and then I seen him it running loud and he was just a different person You feel me? So it's like but he's still you know, he's he's growing up forever. He is bro. He was wildin Don't need to pop out high springs is jumping come out on the fourth of the alternate You're that good You got more than a go crazy Go with every way you feel me the first one he on come he say you take you take them down to the It's our freestyle I Take it man take it man my boy mula in the building man body go down I'm gonna break the pop baby. She know where they stop baby. She giving me top knowing that she gonna slot Baby, she's switching the lane. I've been giving the brain baby. She know what I'm made knowing that she gonna change switch I got a bitch and I'm going on how do you rock in the starter? I'm the daddy. She fucking me. No, she's no I'm the daughter I'm switching the game. I got a brick and I'm making it pain. She's switching the lane I got a jack in the coach. You're going to say in the culture. I get it and they pitch in the ninth and in the closure Hey kind of switching the game Okay, right here. Yeah, I slowed it down for you now. We don't see what you got You don't say a check it man my boy move about to turn up It's on the building Yes, let's go Spice City in the game safe talking shit, but you ain't gonna pay for I'm gonna hit you ass with the taser Talking shit, then you can get the laser. I just got a pinch part the front side talking out of shit, but you can't fry mine Okay, I just got a brick and I'm gonna take that talking out of shit, but you can't fake that hey I got Margiela all on my Gucci the slots. Hey, they talking that shit when they know that that mula gonna ride I'll go community cuz you know that we going outside. Hey, I got a brick and I'm telling them doing a lie Hey Apple and coke when she mixing that coke with a jack people they know that we never go back I got a brick and make 20 off snap Hey Baby, she know when she on I got that Louis Vuitton. She's not chairman She on in the green like a crouton. Okay, I'm chipping off of him cuz he bring it is just free He was in the studio he punchin It's all about the melody and the pitch in the tone you feel me for me So do you you have to be how to wrap in the studio don't lie nigga I don't think I ever not behind the studio Honestly, I feel like I rap better when I'm not high ten minutes. Do you do you still write you still writing shit? I don't write right now I write I write if I have like so like I'll write if I get a if I'm like, yo This song has to mean something like I got a song coming out coming home Right and the song about when I was living in LA and I just had a baby out here in Arkansas Okay, how it felt like I was on the moon You feel me like if something ever happened to my kid It was like a fucking 12-hour ordeal to get home because you can't just fly straight from LA to little rise You got to stop over and sit for six hours and then you type shit So it's like I felt like I was on a fucking astronaut type shit You feel me so I had to write the song it's called coming home about coming home to my son You feel me it was like and then I based the video off that shit too like I'm an astronaut and I'm like coming home I get stuck on the moon. You feel me. I had jumped off the moon and flew to the house You feel me because yeah, that's dope cuz it was like right over there. Yeah, I got it I told him I was like yo, I'm getting home regardless. I say that all the time I'm like y'all I promise you I'm coming home Well, tell me about this I seen somewhere the feds or something that came at you about your kid Yeah, so some hating eyes lame as dude I don't know who it was man made a report to the FBI saying that I keep drugs and guns and shit around my kid You feel me and it's like nothing. That's the far. That's the farthest truth from the narrative It could be you feel me cuz it's like I'd never for my son. I'm a daddy You feel me like I love my kid I only thing I ever care for is making sure his brain develops properly and that he's safe You feel me? So it's like why would I ever put him in a dangerous environment? You know what I mean? So how did they run down on you? They call you and say you at home right now. I was in Miami They pulled up to my house. They pulled up to my house on her strings I was in Miami my little brother and my pops was there at the time Like and it's a whole weird story like so okay. I got time to say so when the pandemic happened So like the pandemic happened before the pandemic house happened I paid two years up front on some rent for like a little five year Or like a little five bedroom three bath house for me and my baby mom's I'm like kid You feel me so it's like I paid that then I went instantly on like like gone. Never there 200 I was going 230 days last year. So when she had the baby. I was like yo mom's She gonna be needing help. We all move into the crib and take care of shit I pay all y'all bills you feel me like y'all gotta worry about rent. We going through a pandemic I'm like working like save y'all's money type shit So they're there at the house and I'm in Miami working and they call me and they're like that the FBI is here and I'm like Stop playing I just recorded a song too and I was like with the artist and I was like man Stop playing and they're like no for real the FBI is here right now and my stomach just That a fuck me you're too. Hit me Yeah, hit me and it was like my stomach just hit me and it was fucked up because I was I was talking to big X I know who big X is out here. Yeah, I was fucking with big X and I was on the phone with him And like and I switched over and we it's because we did a song together and we was shooting the video out here in Dallas And I was gonna leave Miami come to Dallas and shoot it with her So I was like, yeah, we blaze a blaze. I got we we shooting it who we shouldn't we end up shooting it with half pints You feel me? So I was like, you know, we are talking about that conversation switched over my brother And then I had to switch back over and be like matter of fact gang I got to cancel this shit for like a week or two. I got to get back to the house and take care of some business So now I went back to the house and uh You know call my lawyer and had them set up the little interview with me And it was really I'm not gonna catch it was intimidating because with the police you can lie. Yeah Yeah, you can lie to the police, but you lie to the feds. They're gonna get your ass So what did what did how did you how did you they just had to go through my finances? They went through my phone. They went through like not my phone, but they went through my home They went to make sure that there was no like drugs or guns at the house when I wasn't there You know what I mean? Yeah, so like they didn't give me an opportunity to come home They like went in and I told them to because I knew I was like y'all just going there look around I mean, I got my gun, you know what I mean? I got a little P90, you know what I mean? I got a little Glock and a P90 and I was like, you know, that's just registered It's in the bedroom, you know me but besides that there is shit in there So they went through and went through everything went through my bank accounts Kept coming back like two or three times and after that they just was like all right Well, we're gonna close the case on you. So they they definitely are they understood that it wasn't nothing Yeah, I mean it was it was definitely it was just you know Just the as far as from the truth as it could be filming and I'm not dumb as fuck like like boozey said Yeah, just the BG real though Nigga nigga had to do some all hating that bitch that shit cuz who niggas naturally now just saw some G shit niggas naturally Got a strap there's some weed or something on the table in front of that guy Yeah, I mean, we're not finna play like niggas don't do that normally Like bitch who who playing on my top like they said I was a drug dealer drug dealer. They were like You Yeah, and that's the thing is like I had I had to move like I moved out of high strings because of that shit I can't even get up to you. I moved straight up that hole I was like you supposed to lead them off. I had to yes, that's pretty It's just crazy that you would have to be pushed into a situation like that But so so when you think about like your name, I pull it up and you remember the great they got moola Yeah, and I thought I used to call him the great but your name and his name so similar when I pull up y'all stuff It'd be mixing him. You know that though. Yeah, yeah for sure. So I'm gonna go top soon. Don't worry. I'm about to be no Well, he did Yeah, but when when you was down there, who was the guy from? South Carolina that was what you the white guy that was rapping free stuff. I know a million Yeah, is he rocking with y'all y'all the team know when we had him signed to the to the production company It was kind of a How can I say this without being dissing and shit? It was like Milan know it's up with me man. He knows give me Fuck with me little heavy. I discovered do like on the cool. He had no followers. No nothing. I've reached out I was like, yo, this was before I was somebody I was like, yo, if I'm ever somebody you gonna be on my team game Cuz I believe in you I ended up getting with Bushwick Productions and getting a little power to be like oh We can sign you bro. Let's do this and I reached out to him and we did that but some people like I Don't know bro. It's like I put him on the show with House of Blues in mode 3 Like he opened up for me at the house of blues I let him come out and do one song on my set and he never tagged me and shit You feel me like just little hoe ass shit like that. I don't like that You know what I mean like instead of being like how you watch your car For life though, bro, it's like when you put somebody on and you do something for somebody It's not like I want that it's like I I don't want him to it's I don't want him to keep capping like oh Mo3 booked me for the show. You feel me and it's like so are you heard him say that He was like, yo, this is when I got booked for Mo3 show and it was like he never mentioned me or the production company That really hired him. He never did a show week for does yeah Bushwick productions when we booked him for that show when we booked in for the Ole Miss show We booked in for the tours that I was booked for I let him come on open that and it was it was never like I never hit him was like yo start doing this like start hitting me out because I felt like that was on some haters shit Like don't don't post me out, but then I had a conversation with him and a man I was like, yo, you really think that it's fair for you to like I'm bringing you up off my juice And I want you to help me on mine like it's a teen thing because I wasn't doing shit at the time Either like we was just making music and putting it out and it was like So it was weird bro, and then he he's you know, he's a child at the same time. He's he's a little young He's like 21. He ain't got no money. So it's like it's just hard if you ain't got no so he really so you don't see Really don't like on some G shit because I done been in this situation twice. I read in as long as I've been rapping since I've been out Bro like man these niggas will co-tail and dick ride whoever the fuck can get to the top But don't look for no no tag no none of this shit because you know what the fuck you did if you ain't got the nigga in black And white under contract you ain't no money. Oh, so if you making the money off of them fuck They're gonna be you regardless. That's just by shit But was it but but still he was wrong for coming down here to Dallas and not giving his man his props We don't look for props. Yeah, I mean that's at the end of the day I really give a fuck about that will really bother me what really came to the tip of the head was I got a bunch of bread at one Time you feel me like I got a good amount of money really like legally legally I got a good amount of money pay taxes on that shit That's how you probably got you know y'all got trust white folk got trust My mom and daddy live off of me don't play with me And you invested in what I did was I got this money He got mad at me for not because I told him I was like if we ever get a deal Then I'm gonna We're gonna help you out with your deal and improve your shit Well, I got money on something completely separate and he wanted me to give him like 20 bands or 10 bands and I was like gang You ain't making no money. What am I gonna invest in you if you ain't gonna just won't you just give him He wanted me to just give him money off his career. So I was like That's what I told him I was like I'm sorry gang you got it and then he started, you know doing that Where he was like get on the internet and being like we were never friends. It was just business But he could rap I heard dude, I said, oh, you got lyrics You gotta be able to listen he got to be able to put his money with his mouth is to like you can't just think that this shit Gonna happen overnight. You can't think this shit gonna happen without an investment You can't think this shit without work or that somebody's just gonna put you on cuz you hard Yeah, yeah a million horror rappers out here. Well, let's talk about Bushwick Productions Well, how did that come about is that name because it's related to Bushwick Brooklyn Yeah, it was originated in Bushwick Brooklyn. Okay, the owner of it. His name is Victor Borgi He actually my manager personally, but okay, he owned it with another dude named Andrew And they were managing the 10 boys and ASAP Taiwai when I found them. So they were like with the ASAP mob and shit Then I reached out and I was like, yo like saw me whatever like I sent like 500 people I sound like Justin Bieber's manager my music everybody you feel me that I could and he finally hit me back I was like yo like you hard, but we ain't got time for you right now. So I was like damn like I'm a blow-up gang and you gonna be looking at this and he was like and I sent him one more song It was lettuce and I was like, you know, this is this is the shit like and it wasn't even now I'm looking back on it. The shit was wack as hell You see me, but it was like I was that cocky dude like you said earlier. You just got to be I'm gonna be the hottest dude out here and I told him I was like y'all about to be the hottest dude And he was like y'all right fly out and then I flew out to New York slept on dude's couch For like three days got all acquainted with his family and then he saw me a little management contract and then Shelfed me you feel me put me straight on the shelf for like six months Wasn't it because he was working working, but then him and Andrew got into some type of Financial argument where he Andrew couldn't pay for something that he had to and he was like fucking. I'm just gonna quit and I was like Here's your bread gang. Let me sign your paperwork over and he signed me over and then I became co-owner of Bushwick Productions Wow, so that's so instead of like me giving a company 20% now Investing my own money back into my own company to invest in myself. Exactly. That's dope man. It's beneficial for show Yeah, hey, that's dope man. I'm straight off the shelf you feel me instantly So man, how can people get a hold to yeah, you know, we've got to line it down How can people get a hold to you if they trying to link up what you get a feature or just trying to link up with you to say Hey, man, we love what you do. Yeah, any time anybody want to reach out to me man They can be me personally my Instagram mullin moh Underscore if you want to reach out to Bushwick Productions and DM they can handle all the future money and all that shit Or you can reach out to me I always try to advise the artist if they're trying to do a feature reach out to me first and then I'll send them To my management because like they got so much going on that like they may not you know what I mean Yeah, they may not be able to reach out to you directly But I'm so on my shit all the time every somebody every time somebody deems me I know I hope boss talk 101 did justice because we are the hottest podcast in the universe Shout out boss talk man I'm excited to be one of the one of the interviews that y'all get Breakfast club y'all charging well-focused 5,000 We killing them You can get on breakfast club too if you pay this one saying that's like is that something I mean my thing I do this from the heart You know I'm a hustler man. That's hard. I'm really just I'm out here sparring nigga. This ain't my But I get it somebody might come and say yeah, let's do it and we'll do this and do that then How would I get my little artists on here so they could do You went in the DM of my wife, right I was on my couch looking at my deals and I didn't even know you had did that and I just seen you and I start rocking with you like that I'm telling you it and that's how if it's something I want to do then I do it. I don't go by no rules Man, but then she'd say that's the same guy to try to get me up I'm like really I think I think I did and that matter of fact now that you're saying that I was coming down here And I was like damn. I'm gonna try to get at least another two or three interviews Yeah, and I was like damn. I reached out to rain water. Okay, I reached out to rain water and was like Oh, who's hot right now? I was like who's hot out here and Dallas with the podcast shit. He was one who's like boss talking Yeah, but but that's what I'm saying. That ain't how I picked you on the couch No, cuz I want to say something because when you hit us up, this is the thing that I can't stand with a lot of people What do you do, baby? You said on there you said what's popping with you guys is not What's popping with you guys normally? I ignored Because I'm like, okay, who are you? Why did you think about it? You know what I mean? The only reason I thought about it is because he mentioned Moolah and I'm like, but he wasn't Because when you say shit like what's popping with child like like you expecting us to know who the fuck you Know what's what's popping? I should have been like a when y'all free I mean like what's popping where I'm from is like what you doing with what's good with y'all Come off today like I just picked you because I ain't gonna lie I feel like diversity is important in what I'm doing I'm like anytime. I see somebody that's hot. There's rapping like that you your lyrics are dope and I like what you're doing Give me That's what balls talk about. Yeah for sure. That's what I'm saying. It's never Connecting So I'm gonna be real with you man. You always now your family see that's why that's that's why a lot of time like if I do charge It doesn't make it business, right? Yes, but when I do it like I do it is family That's a whole different ball game. That's love. So it's something money came by and when you come at me in a certain way If you if I if you if I pay you or you pay me or whatever the case may be it only goes so far I'm not even looking for you no more. So it's a different feel. I'm being real with you So we kind of like trying to fill it out the trip like one day. Maybe we will charge somebody but not today, man Yeah, that's when you got And I'm really trying to be on here you like Man, thank you so much for coming on the show You always welcome to come on boss talk 101 what a boss is talk man. That's what's up I'm gonna be back. We're gonna do a little follow-up interview in the next like six months to see how she's going if you with it That's it This is I feel like sometimes it's more it's more right to show up by yourself and be like I'm a man You feel me like I ain't gotta have a posse the next time you see me I'll tell you bring your people when you bring them they still can't get on the mic unless you say it I see it. You're a thank God. I get my dad. I'll be bringing my pops on me. Sometimes he'd be over here like He'd be driving this when we on tour and shit he be fucking with the whole Man it's been another great segment of boss talk 101 what a boss is talk