 With these target events, it's not just about the competition cars. Obviously we have the target tour as well, which is not competitive, but around the event we have a lot of different people helping, without their help, we just wouldn't be able to do this. And Grant Cockrell, you drive what we call a double zero car, and that's all hooked up through VZ and Z. Behind you is the zero car with Dennis, again VZ and Z colors. What is the role of the double zero and the zero car on these type of events? Okay, basically on first on the road I go about five minutes before the first competitor. My role is to essentially warn people that competitor cars are coming, but we also have a role of looking for any issues like tapes that may have blown down. We've struck houses on the road, we've struck cattle, we've had buses coming the other way. You've struck, not literally struck houses on the road. In Taranaki we had a guy that was a bit upset about the whole thing, and he was moving his house and he decided to move it onto the road in place because he didn't want it to go. Even I haven't heard that story. School buses coming the other way, we also do a bit of escorting of school buses if people need to, so we're kind of, we're the first competitive car on the road, but we are looking for anything, any issues. We report slippery roads, or like yesterday we had somebody had run their cows across the road and there was about 50 metres of cow dung all over the road. We call that back and try and warn the competitors so that they can be aware of that 23k business. And then Dennis is behind me, he's doing the same thing, but he just basically confirms or denies what I'm saying. So both cars aren't standard road cars, they're actually, they're effectively both race cars, your rally car had the Evo would be competitive in this field. Yeah absolutely, mine's, this is a rally art built car, so essentially closest thing you can get to a factory built car, yeah it was a competitive car in its day in rally New Zealand. So yeah it's been around a long time and it's only ever been a rally car, never been a road car. And from a VTNZ point of view, I mean these cars now have become some of the most familiar cars in New Zealand motorsport from a target point of view because of the colours and the involvement with VTNZ. Yeah that's right and you know the colours look fantastic, they've done a really really good job and yeah it's, we just become part of the part of the whole thing and people expect to see us. So it's great. Well that's one of the things that I mean I've got to know you obviously through these events and you guys have a lot of fun, when we first started it was about how many bird strikes and have you struck any birds this weekend so far? No but we're trying, we're still trying yeah. And you've sacked the young fella? No, Brad went overseas so he's crewing for us at the moment so that's good. But yeah, I think it's one of the best jobs you could do in target. You know it's pretty relaxed but we've got to be serious on the road but it's an awful lot of fun. So it's not just about being in the competitor lineup or the target tour, you can have a lot of fun, probably not a motorsport volunteer Graham, but there are a lot of spots around these type of events with rally New Zealand, with the rally championships in target New Zealand, from a volunteer point of view, from timing, from going out there and helping out with the security and the park firm, so if you want to get involved just look up www.targar.co.nz, talk to the team and see how you can get involved.