 And I'd previously asked you how the presence of the U.P. and D. passing through Kavushi made you feel, and obviously in your own way you've explained your stance. But let me ask you this. Based on the patriotic front manifesto, what's your message to the people of Zambia? You've spoken about what you have done and what you will do. But let me read this message to collaborate with this question I have. Good evening, Honorable Usambo. I'm reading from my message pad here. This is William listening in from Kansanshin in Dola. My question is, Honorable, what measures will government put in place to reduce the high cost of commodities, like cooking oil, the one that you talked about that people always find in shops, sugar, and if you are voted for back in office? And is the government aware of how citizens are failing to afford the high cost of living? How do you respond to those questions? Thank you very much, Kaosun. You know, economy, chintu chimocha, very easy to talk about. That is to say, oh, guys, if I'm not mistaken, if I'm not mistaken, I'm not mistaken. If I'm not mistaken, I'm not mistaken. If I'm not mistaken, I'm not mistaken. I remember very well, in 2009-2008, Zambia, who were even buying medium, if I'm not mistaken, at the Shifftekwacha, Skistekwacha also. But economy, or for Ywomba, for example, Mnom Zambia. Mnom Zambia, if I'm not mistaken, it's for X, Sarn, so that to change the dollar and exchange rate, it's mining. It's mining that is not for me. But if I'm not mistaken, I'm not mistaken, but it's for the Shifftekwacha. And if you are a woman, you know, you are foreigners, or foreign investors. That is to say, if I'm not mistaken, if I'm not mistaken, it's for the Shifftekwacha. If I'm not mistaken, I'm not mistaken, I'm not mistaken. I'm not mistaken, I'm not mistaken. I'm not mistaken. How do you expect the dollar to calm down? But President Edgar Tagualungu has vowed. He has told all of us, including the person who has sent this message, that me, I want my minds to go back to the people of Zambia. If these minds go back to the people of Zambia, we are going to sell our copper, we are going to mine our copper, we are going to sell our copper and we will put, if the money, it's 100 million dollars. This 100 million dollars will go in our commercial banks. Definitely, when we have 100 million dollars in our commercial banks, the dollar exchange rate will calm down automatically because we have a lot of dollars on the market and people that would want to use our currency- Wait a minute, I missed something. Are you saying that now we are going to start determining our own price for copper is no longer going to be determined by the London's metal exchange? Is that what you're saying? I'm saying we are going to have our own money and this money is going to be in our commercial banks and immediately we have millions of dollars in our commercial banks. Where is this money going to come from? Definitely, it is not, it is not a locket service. Where is the money going to come from? Locket service? What? Locket. Where is the money going to come from? Who will be selling our copper? We are selling our copper. We are not selling our copper. The investors, they are selling the copper and the copper money is going in their accounts and these accounts, they are not in Zambia. Okay. So let's just understand something here. So what I'm saying is- You are aware that- For example, we have- The Zambian government has got shares in every mine. You are aware that. That is under the IDC, the industrial development. You are aware of that, right? Under the IDC, the Zambian government has got shares in all of the mines. The shares differ. So all of the transactions, even when the copper is sold, the Zambian government ascends to that because it has shares in those mines and even when the export is happening, the Zambian government is okay with that. So I need you to explain properly what you mean by we will sell our own copper and we are not doing it ourselves right now. I thank you very much, Carlson. Carlson, I've been in government and I'm still in government. I'm just on leave. We are on leave. We will leave for 90 days and by today we are running into 68 or 67 days for our leave to come to an end. I understand the government system more than you do. I can assure you that I know the government share in Mupani. I know government share in KCM. I know government share in Kansanshi and I know government share in Kallumbila. So for me to say what I'm talking about today, I can assure you that I know what I'm saying. Let's be clear. Let's be clear. What I am saying, the question that I've asked you here with all due respect regarding your knowledge of government, my question is very specific. Government owns shares in mine companies and mine companies send the copper, which is Zambia's mainstay for the economy abroad as the major export and the price for that is determined at the London Metal Exchange. Government agrees with that. You're saying we will sell our own copper. I want you to explain the difference between what is happening now and what you're claiming will happen when you say we will sell our own copper. Thank you very much Kalsun. For example, we are now the government and the Mupani. For example, if we invest in Mupani as a major stake order in Mupani and our shares, for example, is 90% share holding in Mupani, whatever things which will mine in Mupani and the market which will take to and sell this commodity of copper, I can assure you that the entire money will come in our commercial banks here because the owners of this copper are Zambians and if the hundred million dollars will come to Zambia, I can assure you that the dollar rate will definitely be sorted out. So the difference is the owners of the mines today, for example, we have NFCA, the owners they are in China and when they mine their copper, the money goes straight in their banks in China. But for us as a country, when we start mining our own copper, when we start mining our own emeralds, the money will be coming back in our commercial banks here in Zambia and that is the difference. Let's talk about some of the questions that are coming through via our WhatsApp platform, I'll read this one. Good evening is President Lungu, the only person that has worked in the PF government because only he is mentioned concerning good about government. So maybe we should vote for him only and leave out the rest of you guys. Kylie, you don't feature in works, just praises. And how would you rate development in western province because mostly the attention is up north. Thank you. That's message number one. This one says good evening Kausa, lost that one briefly, let me, okay, we get there. Good evening Kausa, please by all means try to uphold journalism ethics whenever you can. Most of them like Boman have nothing right to tell the people but in south innocent people who are not on the show. So somebody is claiming that you pretty much are not saying anything except insulting the people who are not here. Your guest is lying, says this one, the UPND did not attack anyone, liar, this is according to Chanda. Thank you very much Chanda who gets to more messages on our Facebook platform. How do you respond to those ones so far? I thank you very much to the Kausa listeners out there and viewers. That was the message concerning that President Edgar Chagolungo is the only one who has performed and we can only vote for President Edgar Chagolungo. The people of Zander they vote for President Edgar Chagolungo and President Edgar Chagolungo invites us to work with him. For example, the people of Kawushikon, I am asking for their vote on the 12th of August and immediately I am voted in as a member of parliament I work with the government I work with the government and the head of government is the president. So whatever things which we do it stops at the presidency door. Okay, I have several more questions so if you allow me and I will implore you to answer the questions as quickly as possible so that we can you know go through as many questions as possible. I will read five text messages so please take note. Number one, ask him how one of us in RB were running the dollar at 3,500 kW each that's 3,500 kW now. After mines were privatized what has changed now only for PF to accuse someone, okay. The other one say why didn't you do that before too late and that is talking about also you know ensuring that the mines are owned by locals. This one says seven years, you are feeling the pressure, okay. This one says, okay why didn't you do that. Another person says that does not make sense and Bob Bowman just admit that you have failed to control the dollar. Don't say HH sold the mine. Tell me how did one of us manage the dollar, okay and one more time, okay this one is talking about our picture on Topstar. So please respond to those as quickly as possible then we will get to more messages on our Facebook platform. Thank you very much Kaos. What I was saying is the person who was talking about President Edgar Chagallungu, yes all of us we work under the leadership of President Edgar Chagallungu and President Edgar Chagallungu is the head of government is the head of our party and all credit goes to President Edgar Chagallungu because he is an initiator for us, we help him to implement. So for me I can assure you that President Edgar Chagallungu has performed and is the best president I have seen so far who has invested in all sectors of our economy and all sectors of our economy they are fighting now, they are fighting the injectors, the pistons, they are fighting and that's why the economy of our country we are going to recover and we are recovering at a very fast rate and for those people who are saying the dollar compared to Manawasa, in a soloist and a former president, I can only assure them that time will tell because President Edgar Chagallungu has invested and very soon the people of Zambia they will bear witness that this president is a chosen one. For those people who would want to say Mouadiquis seven years, sure seven years we are doing a lot of things, we are investing, we are maintaining the investment in agriculture, we were doing a lot of things in other sectors, we are constructing roads, we are constructing hospitals, we are equipping hospitals with nice equipment, we are buying medicine for our people, we have been doing a lot of things, we have been doing a lot of things. So for me I can assure the people out there that I know that the people are trying to come up with fun questions, they are just showing where they are coming from because we know that all these are the UPND because the UPND they don't reason what they do, they just talk without reasoning. Okay let's read more text messages, this one says all he knows is Edgar Chagallungu, Edgar Chagallungu, Edgar Chagallungu, okay, this one says you can die listening to this, okay, I can only hear President Edgar Chagallungu in this interview, this name has come more than a hundred times, okay, why is your focus on etch etch instead of selling your manifesto, so it's this question, people especially in Kabushi, let's vote wisely, Bowman has failed to manage Kabushi, how do you respond to you know questions, I mean to messages like this? Thank you very much, I'm mentioning Akai in the ITLM because it's an imbalancement in the political fraternity, it's an imbalancement in the political fraternity, it came in this fraternity first of all with a long message of tribalism, then violence and it has continued to exhibit ignorance when it comes to political issues in our country, Akai in the ITLM to me, I can't be compared with Akai in the ITLM, I don't even need to talk about them, I talk about Akai in the ITLM because of the things which they are doing, if Akai in the ITLM and today they did not assault the people in Buanakubua, the people in the boundary of Kabushi and Buanakubua as well, how do I not talk about them, but I'm talking about their stupidity actions, that's the reason why I'm talking about him, I'm not even obliged to talk about him, who is Akai in the ITLM, who is Akai in the ITLM, for me I'm a politician and I can assure you as a politician, I know my strength, they don't call me a bulldozer for nothing, that's why today Akai in the ITLM, he really wanted to be in Kabushi Constituency and he's in Kabushi Constituency, he has put very few people, plus the people he came with in Kabushi Constituency and the people today they are saying, where is Burma in Usambu, where is Burma in Usambu, and I'm here, I'm here, I'm saying, I'm very excited that the entire UPND, they have agreed today that Akai in the ITLM, the only person he can match with is the bulldozer, so those people want to ask me those questions, so those people who want to ask me those questions, I can only say that as a politician, when I'm faced with a topic which is related to opposition, political party leader, definitely I will talk about him. Let's read more text messages here. Let me read some more text messages, this one says, it's interesting, I just lost that one briefly, I hope to find it very very quickly, does it mean that the cost of living, oh my goodness, the messages are coming in fast and furious, and therefore disappearing on my screen. We are, oh my goodness, messages are just disappearing, but let me read this one, where here in Indola, roads are bad from Chifu to Buanamkuba, Aomondi, so I really don't know what he's talking about, somebody is accusing you regarding the roads, the highest notes in Zambia can't buy a simple bag of millimew, then you are busy talking about an opposition leader, I wish you passed in Kavushi regarding what's happening there, okay, there's one message that I want to read that is supporting you, but I can't find it because the messages are disappearing, it's anyhow talking about, yeah, so those who are complaining about the dollar must look at how it was in 2001 and should talk about what the MMD did, let's end with that, let's have your response to that, I can't read all the messages, there are two numers, but let's listen to your response to the few that I've read just now, in under a minute. I wish I was like that, I wish I was like that, but you know better, I have a question for example, sure, if we talk to them, he has caused misery to the people of Zambia, when he participated in privatization in this country, a lot of people, some of them lost their lives, some of them they are still stranded because of Aka'in the Ichilem, but it's very important to know history, so but the people who are sending these messages, we know how Aka'in the Ichilem and the UPND, the way they operate, so for me, we are not even bothered with the messages which are coming, the roads in Indola, we are constructing roads in Indola, the person who has talked about roads, go to Chippurukusu, go to Sinya, go to Lubuto, go to Buanamkubua, go to Chuala, take a road and come and tell me that we are not building roads in Indola, we are building roads in Indola and it's because of the good leadership of His Excellency, that's why we are achieving all this development which we are seeing in our country, but we know, we know that Aka'in the, but it's for, but it's for Queshaka, number of Chalungu Mr. Queshaka, Aka'in the, but President, Aka'in the, but President, Aka'in the, but President, Aka'in the, but President, Number, So, I can assure you, let me borrow from your words. So, let me borrow, let me borrow from your words. Let me borrow from your words. I can assure you that your time is up. Until next time, thank you very much for coming through to Sanofam Radio and TV, bye-bye.