 Okay, start recording. I should start. Let's try this. Do I need this? This is for people that are dialing. It's just for the room, so if you don't mind. I'm probably fine, no? Yeah, you're good. All right. Welcome everybody. This is our public board meeting. We don't have the whole board present right now, which is okay. Some people had to leave already. Other people are sick, unfortunately. So you can Google us on the Drupal Association page. There's little photos with little bios if you want to know more about who we are. But I wanted to just kick it off today. The agenda is pretty simple. We're going to talk about a few topics, give you kind of an operational update. And then we really want to make this a Q&A. If you have questions, please by all means ask us questions and hopefully things can quickly become a conversation. The factor here is exciting. If you ever have an interest in becoming a part of our board, there's two ways to join the board. One is to be nominated by the nomination committee and then be approved or elected by the existing board members. If that's of interest, you should come and talk to the nomination committee. That's Sameer Christoph van Toma as well as myself. Feel free to email me or tackle me or whatever approach you prefer. The other is to be nominated. Or you can also get on the board through the community at large role. That is also documented on our website. Thanks for having an interest in what we do and being here. I wanted to say a few words. As you can see, there's a couple of different faces or people that were here. We've had some changes since New Orleans. Some of these changes are obviously hard but they're also needed or good changes. I wanted to give a shout out to Megan and the staff because they've done an incredible job managing through some of these changes as an organization. I've spent a little bit of time with Megan and then a little bit of time with other people. I don't think there's a more passionate, loyal, heart-working staff than the people at the Drupal Association. With fewer resources they pulled off DrupalCon which to me at least from where I'm sitting is being executed flawlessly. In other areas we've even managed to get some real breakthroughs. Tim will talk a little bit about these things. Thanks guys. Thank you. That's it really. I'm going to give the floor to Megan. Sure, great. I'll stand and pretend to talk into the mic. We have an operational update that we give to the board. I actually do it every two weeks just to keep them abreast of our progress. We're trying to be agile and moving things forward. It will go public after this just so everyone can see. Go and scrolling and scrolling and scrolling. Here we are. We just give updates on financials and on DrupalCon, initiatives on Drupal.org of course, membership, global training days, and DrupalCon Dublin sponsorship. Most of those topics I've asked staff to present on so you can get a little deeper dive. We also provide the board with a dashboard of our different goals that we're focusing on for our execution plan and progress towards those goals. We have this whole dashboard where green is obviously on track, yellow is at something slipping, but we're getting it back on track. If you see red, that means something changed. It didn't work out, but we always have contingency and we're happy to say that it's mostly green. So I'll be making this public after the board meeting along with the video, the recording as well. So you can take a closer look and then we can have more questions online through the blog post that I'll be doing. Or you can always email me too. I'm pretty accessible. So just in terms of operational procedure, I'm asking the board, even though we talked about this for two days in a retreat, but any chance, do you have any questions on our progress? Crickets. How are you guys so awesome? All right. So I'm just going to move on and let me give the floor to our first presentation and that is Rachel. Let me get your presentation up there for you. Do you want to just come over here? You can drive. Much easier. I'm going to eat your food too. All right. All righty. So we're going to give an update on DrupalCon New Orleans. We did a longer version of this a few weeks ago, maybe a month or so ago that's available on the Drupal Association's YouTube channel. So if there's something here where you're a little bit curious, there's a lot more data in those slides in that webcast, so you're welcome to go look that up. In general, we ended DrupalCon New Orleans basically about the same size as Los Angeles. We saw a slight dip in our training attendance. But we also saw an increase in our summit attendance, so it kind of balanced out a bit there. Nothing very notable changed as far as job attendees job titles and roles over previous years. There's clearly quite a few developers at this conference, so Full Stack Developers are our number one job title, and then coming in second is Frontend Developer. Our experience breakdown didn't really change year to year, so we kind of have a good estimate on what that, or good prediction, I guess, on what that will be for Baltimore. And as far as the industries go, we did allow people to select multiple industries, but clearly education, nonprofit, government, and media are the biggest industries that we're working with, which isn't particularly surprising, I think. As far as financials go, we actually exceeded our goal as far as a net income goal, so we exceeded that by about $124,000, which is great. Comparing New Orleans to Los Angeles, we were about even. The one thing that is not included in the New Orleans numbers is staff wages and benefits. We pulled that overhead number out for the last year's budget, so that's the one reason why it may look like there's a big increase. It's really about the same. Kind of diving into the more details of how we generated our revenue, we have obviously a lot of different tickets that we sold, and sponsors subsidize about almost 50% of the event, which we really, really appreciate. It helps us keep the tickets prices low. And as far as events go, or expenses go, our number one expense is catering, which is not surprising. We do a lot event production, AV, internet, Wi-Fi, that type of thing. And merchant fees is another big line item for us. So some of the financial lessons that we learned that we're kind of taking forward into Baltimore is that training demand is easing slightly. It's kind of balancing out. The summits are more in demand. We're hearing a lot of people saying that those gatherings resonate for them, being able to talk to other people in their industry. We've seen hotel rooms pick up in North America, which is really great. So even though the number of attendees has been kind of average over the past couple years, the hotel room is going up, which is great because we are able to receive incentives and help apply that to the budget and keep our expenses low. The events team was able to manage expenses based on the changing projections. So we came in a little bit less than where we were at for Los Angeles, but we were able to normalize some of those costs across various expenses that could be adjusted. So that was really great. We were able to kind of shift some catering orders and optimize our hotel blocks so that we could put staff in different hotels and kind of recoup some money there. As far as marketing goes, we obviously use Twitter quite a bit to communicate with attendees and potential attendees. We also used an org banner and received a little bit of pushback from some active community members, and we are kind of evaluating how to use that going forward. So it's something we're experimenting with. And we want to say a big thank you to Paul Johnson. Paul Johnson and our social media volunteers who do a tremendous amount of work for us throughout both Group upon Europe and Group upon North America. So thank you. Emails asking large groups to spend money tend to trend a little bit lower as far as open and click through rates, but we do have quite a few people visiting the website, which is great. We had a smaller team this year, which affected a bit of how much we were able to produce, and we may need to find additional ways to kind of amplify that voice. And we also learned that just hitting publish doesn't give us our best chance at success. So spending a bit more time on accounting for time zones and when people are going to be seeing the messages as well as various platforms that they will see the message on. I mentioned earlier that we had a lot of success with our summits, so we had three existing summits that we brought forward, the Business Summit, the Hair Ed Summit, and the Community Summit. There's a lot of information on those slides, which I will let you read at your leisure. We also had two new summits, the Government Summit and the Media and Publishing Summit, which both went really well. We got a lot of really great feedback on, and we're hoping to bring forward some more. Obviously, a big part of Drupal Con is attending sessions. We had a lot of attendance at sessions. We had a couple of rooms overflow that it was not expected, which is great. So attendees noted that they really valued the honesty and enthusiasm in presenters, and they also requested that speakers rehearse more, which often we hear the speakers are working on slides at the last minute. And so rehearsals may need a little bit more of a higher priority. And people that are loving the demos, particularly if they're recorded so that there isn't any catches if the Wi-Fi cuts out. One thing that we're constantly asked for is making sure that the experience level sticks to the sessions. That's something that we're working on, making sure that the descriptions really match the sessions, and just making sure that people are getting what they're expecting. On Sprints, we had a great turnout, 517, which is wonderful. We had 60% of the people there find it useful or very useful. And we had a ton of Sprint mentors, so thank you to the Sprint mentors who came and brought people up to speed on how they can contribute to the code. As far as our general attendee survey, we got lots of great feedback in the comments, but some of the higher level information, we got a lot of good feedback about session content, networking opportunities, and then another reason where people come is their friends or colleagues are attending. So it's great to invite people to come to DrupalCon. 93% of attendees found the sessions were somewhat or very useful, which is great and a ringing endorsement of not only our volunteer program team that selects the sessions, but also the quality of the speakers that are willing to donate their time to presenting at DrupalCon. And people enjoyed networking and meeting up with friends and colleagues. So 87% of attendees felt that that was helpful. Our net promoter score is 53, which is an increase over last year. So that's really exciting. And overall, people really came to hear sessions and learn new skills. We can continue to round out our programming by providing more ways for people to connect on different topics. And we see that people are really enjoying the conversations that they're having. So again, that's the hallway track and finding ways to kind of create extra places for them to connect on whatever it is that's pressing for them. As far as sponsorships go, our sales team worked very, very hard and they were able to meet their goal, which is fabulous. The sponsors are still really happy to give back. So that was a primary motivator for a lot of our sponsors, but they're also wanting a bit of a deeper engagement with the community. So they're looking for different things that may be able to help them connect one-on-one with community members. And they also appreciated the efforts that we took towards making them more comfortable and feel appreciated. Tim Constine on our team works with our sponsor, uh, sponsor contacts and we put a bunch of his recommendations into place and people really liked that. We created a little lounge for them to hang out in when they were a little bit slow at the exhibit hall or when they were tired from setting up their booth and I think that that went over pretty well. So overall, in general, we're providing what attendees want, which is solid sessions and opportunities to interact with each other, but we can keep building on that and keep providing those opportunities for people to connect with other people and be able to collaborate on various ideas and project aspects. We were able to relatively maintain attendee counts with a halved marketing team, so we had a little bit of turnover on the marketing team and we were able to keep getting the word out and keep people excited to come to the con, which was great. We also understand that the city impacts the con, so people were really excited about New Orleans and we were glad to hear that. People came and had a great time exploring the food and the culture and the music and they really appreciated being able to go out after the con and kind of walk around the city being inside the center of the city. So going forward, what our team is going to focus on is continuing to improve programming, finding ways to add more content for the non-developer audience, so again about 50, a little over 50% are kind of more of the straightforward developers, but we also have a lot of people there that are not developers, so particularly more of the end users of Drupal and finding ways to widen the appeal and the audience through summits and trainings and things like that. We're going to continue to find ways to engage with the attendees in meaningful ways, so finding things that people are asking for and also finding ways that we can engage our sponsors in those conversations so that the relationship continues to be a healthy one. Again, we're also going to create more value for the sponsors and kind of simplify the process, so as we continue to grow the Drupal cons and the sponsorship offerings there's been a lot of different ways that people can participate and so we're going to find ways to make that even easier for them not only in picking their sponsorship but then once they get ready for the con and show up on site. And I think as a team, we're working on choosing the strategic changes that we can implement for Baltimore but also looking beyond that, so we're working with a bit of a smaller team now and so we have to be really thoughtful about what we really afford to take on and we'll have the biggest impact for us and for the community. So does anyone have any questions? There's a lot of words. I don't know if this could be addressed but I've heard smaller teams a few times that do that big and a lot better for one of the teams. I did? So how it applies for Drupalcon, we had Tina Kraus who is an active member of the events team and focused on Drupalcons who's no longer with us and we also had some marketing team members that were pretty involved in helping us produce content and so overall we're working with a smaller team but from the events team perspective we're down one percent. It was a part of the staff reductions that happened at the beginning of summer as a part of kind of refining the focus for the association. Are we looking to have any more trying to increase our business with the businessmen coming? Like people who are evaluating Drupal? Yeah. Yeah, I think that's something that we're looking at right now and that kind of falls under that last bullet point of finding things that we can do strategically so I think that one thing that will be key for us is our partnerships so working really closely with people who know the customers they're trying to woo in and working with them to help not only build something at the event that speaks to them but helping having them help us get those people on site, right? Personal invitations so that they feel really connected and like there's something there for them. Yeah, so I know something that we're starting to look into is kind of like basically if there's a major event coming up it's actually say three months before we start to run a monthly kind of awareness within that location to try to Yeah. So I'm just wondering if that might be something we can talk about it. Any other questions? All right. I just want to say a big thank you to Rachel. So this is her third Drupal Con this year. Right? So we had one in Mumbai, India and then we had one in New Orleans in states and now here in Dublin three very different cultures, three very different events and it takes them with a really strategic mind and great time management skills and people leadership skills and amazing budget skills to pull that off, right? With the team that's shrinking and now it's, you know, obviously it's stabilized and she's prepared to go do this again next year. So I just want to say big thank you. Yeah. All right. And now Tim Prine. Cool. So I'm now managing the engineering team at the Drupal Association and I'm going to talk a little bit about what we've been doing recently and in particular some new changes that you've seen and some more changes that are coming up and some of this has been previewed to the board already. A little bit of it is new but for the community at large I want to show you guys this as well. Before I jump into this there are other details that are part of the operational update in the dashboard that gets publicized in the board packet that will come out and so we have other metrics that we're tracking as stability and uptime on Drupal.org and about keeping services like the update system, Drupal CI, Composer all running well to keep the development side working so for information about how all that's going the answer is very well check the board packet. So but what I'm really excited about is just before Drupal Con, pretty much the week before we got some changes to the front page pushed out and some new tools that will let us do some interesting new kinds of marketing and positioning Drupal to the evaluator audience in particular. The kind of principle when we're thinking about what we're doing next is trying to close the deal for users who are choosing Drupal. These are technical evaluators largely but people who've put Drupal on a short list for a solution they may not need but come to Drupal.org and are trying to make that final decision and so this is part of our pivot towards supporting the adoption journey and to do that we're creating better editorial tools that it's easier for our smaller team to create the content that will support this effort. We want the ability to experiment with our campaigns and how we organize this content and we're looking forward we want to use this for focused industry oriented solution pages that provide the content that tells an evaluator in a particular market how Drupal can be built into the appropriate solution for them. So just a quick history because I thought it would be fun. Here's what Drupal.org has looked like over the past about two years or so. So this was December 2014 a little bit after I came into the association and evolved a little bit in April of that year and evolved again in October of that year. That was November, we had a bit of a change that was around the release of Drupal 8 around December we started promoting things like that central promotion for membership campaigns or for Drupal Con and then we decided to make a more drastic change which some of you have seen but I'll talk a little bit about how we got there and where we had it first. These are some wireframes that are a little bit messy but our older home page we wanted to evolve into something that more prominently promoted Drupal Con and that was iteration and it became an editable and flexible version of the home page and then from there we want to evolve further to provide this promotion for those vertical markets and to help those evaluators understand why Drupal is the right choice for them. And so the editorials we used to build that are fieldable panel panes with styles and things that the our content editors can can totally define these pages without engineering effort just to give them tools to tell the stories. So those tools let us do things like this, create these more designed regions with Skype notifications that are used can be used flexibly throughout the site. So for those who like to get into the gory details our content editors can come in define our CCAs, define our body content choose the images, choose the graphics select styles and there's no real engineering effort required to get those up and running. We used this first on the membership campaign that ran just before Drupal Con and it's going to be continuing to run it's running right now and we used it as well for the new home page that's up on Drupal.org So this is going to evolve further but as you've probably already seen that is beautiful and modern and I would like to especially thank Emily Nouveau over here for helping us with the design and really kind of taking off this effort. It was extremely helpful and tomorrow we're going to start and these are non-final mock-ups but we're going to start looking at Drupal for Industries and using these same tools to develop content targeted to the specific verticals and we've already started sort of mocking things up and we need to get a little bit more of a design eye to it but just through some things together. So we're looking at partnering with the creators of key modules in certain areas with people who are experts in those particular industries to generate that content and help us really promote those verticals. Any questions? That is a really good question so we are I don't know if you saw around the Drupal 8 release when we started we had that whole sort of sub-site section and that was a multi-lingual area so we that was only for the Drupal 8 release area so right now we don't have formal plans around doing multi-lingual for say new pages or for something like the front page but we have more multi-lingual tools available and so for example we're looking at making that available for the Drupal 8 user guide in the new documentation section that's coming online so we're doing some more multi-lingual efforts but at the moment these initial changes are in English. Could we imagine tools for example to create content on the Drupal 4 multi-lingual then deploy it to countries for example for example you know I've had several conversations with people from I say I had a conversation with the Hungarian community and Ukrainian community all of whom also operate their own sort of Drupal association within their country style websites if you actually if you'd like to come to our panel the D.oPanel that's happening tomorrow around lunchtime we could talk more there's some ideas about how to integrate those communities better with what happens on Drupal.org itself it's a session we'll do an update from the Drupal.org engineering team and then a Q&A the simplest thing we could do is probably license the content using creative comments almost certainly that import tool could be copy paste that's true yes so you mentioned some sectors or the verticals that you mentioned how much consideration has been based on what they are no it should be the same yeah that's a very good question and it's something that we've been talking about a little bit internally because we do want to I mean Drupal is so flexible and so available for potentially anything that we don't want to pigeonhole the software into those markets but so we're trying to figure out how to walk that balance and how we message these at the same time we're looking at the most popular our initial data gathering has been the most popular searches in the marketplace by market what it seems to be people are looking for and trying to figure out how to build as well as talking to shops and service providers about who their customers are and who it is that's around that's looking for this Megan has done a series of interviews with people to say you know when you're going to Drupal.org are you finding what you're looking for to tell you how to do what you need so we're doing the data gathering we haven't come up with the shortlist quite yet but we're still working on it yeah it's a good question we talked a little bit about it over the last couple of days with emerging verticals the challenge is going to be content creation so we have to find partners to be able to create content for a vertical that might not have a lot of content that already exists yeah and that's going to be a partnership between the association and shops or end users who are the experts because our team doesn't have all that expertise in those markets so yes that's a really good question as well it's something we've thought about in the past and are starting to think about a little bit again there's some discussions going on about Drupal.org tooling in general and some recommendations that a committee with the board are working on and thinking about we don't have any decisions yet but that's a related topic so yeah I don't have an immediate answer about whether it's absolutely on the list but it's something that may come yes we're certainly looking to include case study content, specific content that would make sense yeah thanks Tim so awesome so we've got you some changes the engineering team has gotten smaller although we still have our friends that come support us and when you go through those changes you really have to rely on someone with strong leadership skills and Tim has certainly demonstrated that and has pulled everyone together and helped them kind of reframe their priorities and trying to figure out where to get everyone focused and the other thing too he's just been someone I can really lean on, I am not an engineer and so we go we just went to the Jura board and I actually understood it so he's done a great job just bridging that gap for me too and also I think building new relationships for the community so just thank you for your wonderful work all right come on up Brad and now you'll hear from Brad Fields you know SmartCom and overseas membership that Liz drives and I'll tell you a little bit about that sure will we and okay I need one of those eyes in the back of the head upgrades but I'll come in another time so just because people are always more important than the specific work sometimes that happens Liz is a big part of the membership work that happens for us she's downstairs running the booth so I want to make sure that her name is mentioned in terms of coordinating so much of the work that we're about to talk about also want to be sure that we give nods to Tim and to Drum specifically for a lot of the roll out of the campaign that's going on right now for membership but we do want to talk a little bit about the campaign that happened earlier this year during Q2 so like any good story we're going to start with the end and the end of this story is that thanks to a lot of the really great work that Liz did the annual goal has already been exceeded in terms of the forecast we're at 100% right now of what the forecast goal was and who knows maybe there's still room to grow we'll see the campaign itself so it didn't actually run for all of the second quarter which also makes it pretty impressive that we were able to exceed what the forecast was so it actually only ran for about two months through May and June the heart of the story for this membership campaign was that if you sign up or renew your membership while the campaign is running you get a personal life certificate this was true for organizations this was true for people as individuals and we talked about the campaign actually exclusively on own channels so to the extent that we did advertising was advertising on our own channels this wasn't paid social media nothing like that results everything's looking green in terms of new memberships in terms of renewals in terms of the overall membership count during the same time period this year relative to the same period last year and certainly from a revenue standpoint as well everything is smelling like roses if you're doing the math the certificate number is a little bit higher than the new members and renewals just because some people renewed maybe outside of the exact period but we didn't have the heart to say no you can't be thanked in terms of bringing a lot of the different pieces together for the campaign one of the core aspects of it was a landing page on association.ruple.org and then as I briefly mentioned a few moments ago there was advertising as well but again on our channels not sort of just spread across the internet broadly there was a banner on druple.org letting people know that there was a certificate we would love to put their name on and the proof is that during the period that the banner was actually running on druple.org we saw that it was driving an absolutely astounding percentage of the traffic to the landing page and materials for the campaign and also represented a really good percentage of the people who reported where they heard about the membership campaign in some ways it's not surprising right things like social media can be pretty temporal if you're not looking at your screen you don't see a retweet or a share things get past you but just the semi-permanence of the banner sort of proved itself and it's good to see the numbers reflect that but especially for a membership campaign it wasn't all about what the revenue campaigns were we thought there was just good public goodwill and thanking people who referred more than five people for the campaign so they were thanked publicly on our channels we certainly reminded organizations that there's just a feel of having this kind of representation within your office space somehow in one way or another and definitely encourage people to take lots and lots of selfies and share them as often as they could pictures of themselves with a certificate and so what you're seeing right now is an example of when Liz storified some of the selfies that we collected over a little bit of time comparing performance over the last three years again things are looking green in terms of the member number in terms of the revenue number and what you see in that bottom right hand corner is just a reminder again that each one of those things exceeded what the goal was set out to be and so right now there is another membership campaign running Tim talked a little bit about this in terms of the tools that are available to help that be possible but the community cultivation grants campaign is what's running for Q3 right now you will see a banner on Drupal.org if you haven't already seen it it's back up as of today and it's just been really exciting to see this kind of thing come together this quickly to be very honest and it's also sort of soft represents the beginning of another project that's on the roadmap which is thinking about ways to get the Drupal Association's programs more representation on D.org proper and so this membership page itself actually lives on D.org at slash association slash membership as opposed to on the separate subdomain and that is everything at least about Q2 questions questions so do we wait for the new certificate campaign if you were new before the next certificate campaign we will send you six certificates what does the membership look like the overall percentage of the association revenue you mean I'm actually not sure what percentage of overall yeah like back at the envelope membership brings in $200,000 in overall revenue is $5 million it kind of counts 5% did you have a percentage of people that actually did a membership with the conferences it's not a fixed percentage it actually ranges it's all of a sudden it's really clear in the mic it sort of ranges based on conferences and location so for instance we are here in Dublin this week but we're not doing membership transactions in the booth on site for international transaction reasons right so it sort of depends there are so many things that changes conditions that we don't see a fixed line always true across conferences do you just mean if people identify that that's new so we had probably about 40 people sign up for either individual or organization memberships through the commerce transaction of buying their ticket we have a lot of people who are coming to the cons that are already existing members so they may just not be their time or they may already be on an auto renewal too so they might not know they might not know yeah that's true well the restitial page should tell you if you are still an active member but not when they're standing at the booth no yeah then they don't know that's the real reason why when they go up there they don't remember in their minds they think they're but that was like two years ago and we actually still encounter the confusion of well I have an account on Drupal at Org well we put it on their badge so if you look at your badge you can see that trees is a member of the Drupal association yes we can do reprints I'll pause this one I'll take care of this I know because Liz did it for me last year last year? could be expired within a year any other questions? thank you for the mention we just have a slider which we've abandoned and we've now got checkboxes how are we going if people feel like they're going to keep this one is that improved at all? it's improved a little bit but it's still sort of trending towards what would have been the left side of that slider yeah this is a really true example I'm kind of suspecting the slider I'm not saying that you should do it that was a bad idea anyway this is the lowest price like you could pay $15 or I think $500 is the top is the top four you can choose to pick your membership fee and we've sort of got $35 is the top one and $50 is what this is what generous people pay but even say $15 is just prohibitive in India like a trivial in the United States or if you're paying euros but in some parts of the world it's going to change but the flip side is people who are coming from wealthy countries still just begin their forum once I think I don't know if we can help this one maybe have like a big the Big Mac guy the Big Mac has this in your country you should be paying at least three Big Macs some of those things are definitely things that we've thought about I want to make sure you get credit for that the math definitely supports it fair enough any other questions anyone else all right well Brad thank you very much I also want to just acknowledge you so he has a nickname called Batman but I decided he's also the superhero stretch because he has the only person in marcom and he is stretched between Drupalcon and membership and merchandise and content strategy on Drupal.org and so many things and that's a really hard role to play and it takes a lot of not just skill and talent and time management as well but it requires passion and care for the people and putting the people first to really kind of work through those kinds of capacity challenges so I just want to thank you so much Brad you've made a real impact okay well that is it in terms of the updates and just look in the time actually we're right on time we have a few more minutes to ask the board you know it could be a free-for-all you know anything you want would the board like that audience questions? I was just wondering if we should develop a connection to other big events we did for example we went in San Francisco and they are here so because I think we have to drive people who don't know Drupal maybe say go to other events I think it's a great idea and we've done some of it in the past where we would have a booth at Oskon or we would have the kind of stuff you mean of co-locating you mean exchanging we have a booth at Drupal well we've done some of that with some conferences I think we can do more of that and I am maybe interesting to think about I think it's a great idea obviously we can have a presence at those co-hosts like PHV World some other conferences I don't know what you've thought about yeah we tried to go to events and try to talk about Drupal sessions but I think it's it's a great idea it's a great idea we've done them I would probably say I don't want to speak for the staff but it's been more like one-offs I would say versus sort of a programmatic approach where we have a budget and a plan and might somebody really driving it in general the local user groups have been doing it so we did we've done OSC on a lot not only flaws in association staff we did it's important but then when they moved to Austin a bunch of people from Austin user groups done that there's PHV World where I don't think we didn't do it officially but other user groups have gone I know Larry has been a representative there a bunch of times but in general I think the majority of it has been working with Liz to say hey User Group X wants to go to Event Y can the association like give us swag or any other material like that it's been a decent partnership because it doesn't cost the association much money to do that and it engages local users to organize Is there a conference on content management system? Yeah so we also attended CMS Expo one time in Chicago there was CMS garden was it seeded? I think it was in France CMS and CMS garden was several CMSs they share the same rules they speak about CMSs open source I can issue the conference also Any other questions? Do I want? I don't need to see the question I'm going to share I'm going to So we worked with the local community extensively to develop a brand that they felt represented the city and they really wanted to focus on blues and so we picked different blue tones that kind of went with the watercolor theme so unfortunately it is very similar to Barcelona's color but we thought it was red It's true but we don't have blue We're blue-prone here What are you referring to? I mentioned this a bit on stage and I think it was also in Tim's blog post we have a technical advisory committee that is picking up a very long conversation within the community of what to do with tooling and we're just looking at you realizing you should probably be answering this but anyhow it's a committee that's making up a board member Steve Francia and Moe Schweitzman and Angie Byron and they are starting to look at our different options and what the community had said they like in terms of tooling talking to GitLab, they're talking to GitHub they're going to pull all this together and their process is that they want to bring it back to the community to re-engage the discussion and have this in a public forum so everyone has a chance to hear the pros and cons and have a discussion and then a decision can be made and then we decide how we implement obviously that requires like scoping of resources and understanding funding requirements so there's no timetable of that implementation but right now we're in the fact gathering timeframe so the September is kind of like no real September timeframe we're in the fact gathering so what we're going to do after Dublin because we'll be coming out of that fact gathering phase and it's kind of understanding what that process will look like we're going to do a blog post for the community and say like here's what we're doing, here's our roadmap here's what you can expect and then I'm sure there'll be some feedback of maybe we forgot this or consider this or that so you'll start seeing a little bit more out there publicly now that we have a game plan anything you want to add Tim? no okay any updates on what's happening with groups? he has one in the chair board I do have an update it's probably not everything you'd be thrilled to hear but right now we basically are just working with one of the LTS support vendors so it's on the LTS system and it's just so it's receiving updates from one of the LTS vendors that's in terms of just basics just in terms of basic basic stuff in terms of future development it's not on the immediate roadmap so I wonder if you may not know whether or not, because I think that content going back a bit the content strategy people looked a little bit at it the reason I bring it up is it came up in the community some of them on Monday and it was really frankly quite embarrassing the state of groups to Drupal yep, it's the last Drupal 6 site but it's also that the community has kind of abandoned it as well, it's not just that we're sort of like as a DA don't have time to put presenting into it but it's kind of like it's just really old stuff there the search engine someone searched for Israel and it said did you mean Michael? someone else searched for Germany that said did you mean Germany? and there's this discussion about how a lot of people use meetup.com now instead we had a representative in a range of working communities and she said that one of the things WordPress have done is have a sort of business level account with meetup.com so they paid for meetup fees for all of WordPress and I know that individually lots of people are paying for the small sort of thing so just struck me as this is something that we may not have the time of resources to actually fix but I think we need to think about putting some time of resources into what we're going to do because it's I think it might be doing us damage I mean we've certainly thought about whether the option is to not sunset entirely but do it as an integration with something like meetup as an alternative but since it hasn't been on the like kind of forefront we haven't made a decision on that either and there's a variety of kinds of content because there's not just local user groups there's also interest groups there's also initiative organization actually still happens there and so there's we need to make sure that those things find a home before if what's left is just the local user groups and that kind of thing is perfectly sensitive one so yeah the great thing with the local user groups to meet up I mean we still will do a little discussion there but most of it we just mirror on meetup but yeah things like in the core group or different other groups I used to be a moderator on there and correctly I mean just became successful with family submissions it was hard to keep up with and so cutting it down kicking all the local user groups off and not supporting that like be a way to at least retain the content that's useful or the discussion people are having those discussions about issues I think are useful whereas if it's just meetup announcements that doesn't need to be there so probably whatever the solution will look like we'll wind up splitting off those different categories of conversation but yeah it definitely still makes a lot of okay one more question in the back there's nothing related to community is it possible for all regional events like Iron Crime on Drupal.org based on the location where currently it's for companies Eastern European countries that Drupal.org that is an interesting thought for some reason I've gotten like 10 different questions about geolocation related issues on Drupal.org to be honest I haven't thought about that before but it's definitely an interesting idea part of it though, I mean we want to invite most of those local communities to come to Drupal.org so we have an issue of how much content and how often when it would overlap so we have to think it through yeah I don't have an answer it's a good idea Tim do you want to talk about Drupal.org? yeah well and of course there's Drupal yeah we have that it doesn't get that specifically search for that and it's not so easy because a lot of community page that is for beginner users mostly and there are not more advanced users that are looking for information in Drupal.org right that's a good point okay now we'll think about it more great okay well that concludes our public board meeting I am going to be posting the recording and the board packet on the Drupal Association blog I'll do a little write up and so you can take a closer look at all the materials that we shared today and a special thanks to staff for presenting and for the board for all their guidance and advisory over the last couple of months so and thank you thank you very much for being here and being interested in what we're doing you're certainly an extension of us and we're here to support you so it's great to hear your questions and if you have more afterwards feel free to email me I know many of you in the room which is great and again if you have questions specifically on Drupal.org the Drupal.org panel is tomorrow for our lunchtime it's in schedule so please bring your questions it's mostly quick Q&A we're interested in hearing from you excellent ok well thank you very much if you didn't get lunch it's outside and please enjoy thanks Dries thank you that was nice