 Boom howdy fam Anthony dream Johnson here today. We'll be your hosts for the red man group episode 174 Founder 21 studios the 21 convention the 22 convention 20 University the Patriarch convention 21 summit Co-founder of the red man group and 10,000 other things on the internet Appreciate you guys tuning in. I know it's been a few weeks since I've done the show been very busy preparing for the upcoming 21 summit in Orlando Coming to Orlando, Florida October 14th to 17th. That's a Friday through Monday Magical Super Bowl the Manisphere four-day event. It's gonna be amazing. 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It's amazing best event in the world for men. It's awesome You should get a ticket you should be there take action get off your ass get off the internet Stop scrolling and fucking tick tock or whatever the fuck and come eat us face-to-face shake our hands and Don't be a beta male be an alpha male now without further ado and this five minute ad campaign to promote our events and Apps and all kinds of fun stuff. Please let me welcome to the show. Mr. Noah Revoy. How you doing? No, thank you Thanks for having me on and thanks for having me on so close to the conventions I know this is a super busy time of the year for you. So you're working hard for this I don't think people realize how much hard work goes into one of these events It's not rent a place and then invite some people. It's a lot of hard work and really do good work Anthony. Yeah, thanks, man. I appreciate it. And yeah, it is crunch time. We got about 41 41 days to go to the event Let's see here Yeah, 40 days and 22 hours 41 days So, yeah, it is crunch time. It's a lot of work. It's kind of like I'm thinking about lately And I think you'll understand this you're an online entrepreneur mostly But then you'd also do some public speaking engagements and stuff like that My business is kind of this weird hybrid where most of the year it's like online business But then for a certain window of the year about 60 days a little bit over that Before the event and then a little bit after it's very physical like brick-and-mortar There's a lot of shit to do a lot of logistics out of people to hire a lot of people to buy flights for we're often buying like You know 15 to 25 even more flights hotel logistics, you know meeting people in person Renting gear like it's a huge, you know six-figure operation that is not like launching an e-book So throughout the year, I feel like I'm in like online entrepreneur world But then his event closes in it's very much like let's get this shit going like physically open the door Well, I don't think people realize how hard it is to get dozens of highly successful men Who have their own lives and their own schedules and their own plans to all get together in one place at one time? To do something it is really tough. It's like, you know, it's like organising an invasion pretty much. Yeah, yeah Yeah, and the speakers too, you know We're all a high testosterone pure-blooded alpha males and you know managing all these different personalities There's some females too at the 22, but that's pretty new phenomenon mostly just men obviously At our men's events. I only allow men to speak to men, for example I don't allow women to give presentations to men There can be a little exception here and there like a red man group panel or something but Anyway managing all your personalities like on my own bombastic abrasive personality And even the most mature alpha men are also going to be, you know, have their own Very strong wills that I have to kind of manage and mediate and negotiate And uh Just make everything work out and yeah, it's difficult. It's difficult to be that But working, you know working with you guys makes it easy a lot of you are All of you at basically this point that stick around that are not the predators like the jesse lee's Uh pretty awesome to work with and you guys make my life a lot easier and you help promote the events and set things up So I appreciate it Think about the predators I think that's so important the work you do to push those kind of people out and to make it clear What they really are because most people aren't capable of seeing that and very few get to see the behind the scenes That you get to see and there's a huge difference between And you've noticed this when you invite people they're public persona You invite them and then you realize they're not what they're saying in public because you get a chance to spend time with them But your average youtube watcher they don't get to see that And so they they're they're hearing this message from professional manipulators essentially And if you don't know what to look for and if you don't see them in person You don't get to craft that exterior, but they can't keep it up, you know 24 7 when they're in person Yeah, that's a really good point and I've actually thought about writing kind of a Manifers slash conference organizers slash youtuber insider books someday Just about all the fucking crazy shit that I've seen over the years and it's not just You know, well people see the memes or the hit videos expose videos That's like the tip of the iceberg or kind of the end result Leading up to that. There's a big smorgasbord big buffet of bullshit Where you learn something a clue here or someone asks you to like keep you know They tip you off about something and you're like, oh fuck. This is not good like another, you know effing predator So Good, I see you each time to give these guys the chance to come forward and nobody's done it on their own Like you you're not just hanging them out to dry. You're saying hey be honest or I'm going to say what's happening Yeah, I'm going to tell people what's really going on Every time that I've seen you've given them a chance to come forward You've given them a reasonable amount of time And nobody's even made the smallest effort To to clear up the situation or even respond to it Yeah, they're very they tend to be You know, this has been my experience with business and even outside of that in personal relationships when you find someone My you know medusa story from many years ago the wife thing That was a a personal example, but in business. It's very similar People who are committed to living a lie who are committed to living this fake facade and manipulating lots of people Social circles family friends business relationships Entire online communities of hundreds of thousands of men and another and some women too I mean it's sick and you realize how embedded they are with it and committed in their their teeth or in claws Are so deeply woven into it They'll do nothing to get out of it. You're right like every every fucking case It's like it's like an 80s action movie or like some judge dread shit I'm going to give you one chance. I'm clean. They never come clean They're married to it in a way. They're married to the lie and they're married to the manipulation And they're married to the illusion that they have to make money So they're financially invested in it too and then emotionally Psychologically all these kind of I mean you probably speak to it better than I could but I'm just kind of This is why their manipulation is so effective and I talk about this in my book that all manipulation starts with your own internal manipulation And the best liar convinces himself at least while he's speaking the lie that he's telling the truth This way you can do it with this kind of authenticity That a person who knows they're lying is very easy to spot I mean my kid can tell you you can tell the kids lying when they lie because if they're transparent Yeah, when a professional liar or professional manipulator lies, they first convince themselves It's almost impossible even if that's your job And I talk about becoming immune to manipulation But I also talk about not having so much hubris to believe That you can spot every single manipulator a mile away. It takes some time sometimes To see through this and most people don't have the time to go and examine it And we have all of these public figures going washing through Society and some of them wash out like jordan peterson. Um, you know, he's self-destructed tailored self-destructed Um, but very Sam Harris Sam Harris does think there's a recent one too. He's in the middle of it right now Yeah, and and that's great because that it's obvious But how many years did people follow these people? Yeah And maybe some of what they said is true, but they mix in some manipulation and with it And it's so very rare to come across someone that's actually has a chance to see them in Face-to-face and go hey, he's not who he said he was I better warn people and you get a lot of flak for warning people Um, but like you're almost the only one doing that Yeah, thanks man. I appreciate it And that's important and I know like I hey, I don't want to be there You know punching celebrities and telling them to you know to smarten up So what you're doing is really important for the Manisphere itself. We have to Um push out our manipulators because if we don't it's a contagion. It affects everything I talk about manipulation creating low trust societies. Well, we are a sub-communist sub-society within the Manisphere And would you say would you say manipulations like a cancer like it just grows and grows? Absolutely Absolutely, and it's it brings us it deep causes us to deviate from reality And eventually we deviate so far that we whatever organization gets saturated with it crashes and burns We see, you know, American society's got so saturated with manipulation. It's crashing and burning Um, the church is people ask think that it's because people aren't interested in god or religion No, they're not interested in the church Because they've seen how much manipulation is there the church suicided itself. It didn't just die It it manipulated people when it didn't have to And created this situation where people don't trust it and that's why it's dying That's why all our institutions are dying Yeah, let's let's pause on the church one because I've been thinking I watched a couple movie trailers this morning They're kind of comedic poking fun at like, uh, and I think it was good You know the mega church pastors who are always like, you know, Joel Alistine and these mega frauds that are always like You know closet in the closet and they come out and these sexual allegations, which are like true 80 of the time or 90 Um, you know stealing money, whatever It's just you know, I need my fourth private jet You know because jesus told me I needed five jets and I got to get four and then we're going to get five And I need a 10 million dollar house because jesus wants me to live in a 10 million dollar house Not you but me I mean this shit is like Some of that stuff you have to deal we so there's like you got the catholic pedo priest sometimes You got the predator pastors jesse lee, you know number one building a cult out of it So you got the Protestants you got the catholic stuff. I don't know about the orthodox priests I haven't investigated that yet then you got the mega church pastors. So there is you're right They suicided across denominations. They like blew up their own their own thing And it just got I guess because no one is willing to call it out I know church militant called in the catholic church. They called it spineless Effectless and spineless are bishops and stuff because they don't have the balls to call stuff out usually until it's like They can't because the way that the church is structured is that you can't um, it's a kind of hierarchy where you can't call out Anybody because it ends up affecting you if they're downstream of you in the hierarchy And you call them out. Why didn't you fix this problem before it got this bad? And if they're up above you you can't call them out because they're your boss technically And they can they can cause trouble for you take you out of your position Then you have no no room to speak I know here in portugal that uh, I know someone who was hired by the catholic church To go after these people that are that are predators and stuff in the church And he's specifically they picked someone that is not A priest or part of the hierarchy because he's outside of it And so he's not subjected to the same church law and he's able to be more effective but it's There is a desire by many in the churches to purge them of manipulation But they don't know how and it's so deeply embedded in things Where do you start and part of the reason I wrote this book is to give people the tools to D to remove the manipulation from their organizations Whatever it is if it's government if it's the church if it's your family Is to get the manipulation out so that you can restore the health Let's uh, let's pause on this real quick. I should have entered the book sooner So Noah revoy recently wrote and published become immune to manipulation How they are manipulating you and how to resist it. It's a great book I've skimmed it myself. I haven't read it yet, but I will be reading it I'm excited to read it pretty thick pretty meaty. It's a good design too. I like it I care about the way books are designed when people pick shitty fonts and colors and the material it annoys the crap out of me I need to do the text all the way to the edges. I like white space It's great for taking notes, you know it give you a chance to oh, I got to apply this and really that's the way the book is to be read You read something through it. You see oh man. I'm going to go apply this right now in my life Don't finish the book till you go apply that then come back work on that next thing and work through it as Think of it as a A book with things for you to do exercises for you to do to remove manipulation for your life from your life Rather than some sort of a self-help book or for entertainment Most self-help books fail because they don't really give you they tell you what to do They don't tell you how to do it. And so I focused on the how how do you get manipulation out of your life? Yeah, we don't want it. How do you get it out? And it's it's harder than we think because if we were to Simply eliminate all the people in our life who manipulate us there'd be nobody left We'd be all alone And that's that is a manipulation of itself the more alone you are The less people you're networked with the easier you are to push around And manipulate and the the better your network the harder it is to push you around So we have to walk this tight line between not allowing people to manipulate us But not also burning every single relationship that we have Yeah, I I have to walk this line a lot and I think about these issues a lot I talk with them with close friends too like tony bruto and others but You know walking this line in the manosphere and with 21 summit and the 21 convention and all these different relationships That i'm in the middle of current past present future like you know in the works basically And it's very difficult to walk this line and to call out You know eventually frauds when they're when there's a problem or an issue becomes It becomes apparent that this person is a huge fraud and a fake and a hypocrite Um while also not burning a thousand bridges and looking like some I mean optics are important. I don't particularly care people view me, but i'm also not I might be immune to social pressure, but i'm not invincible to consequences So I have to pick my battles wisely basically And this is why when people see me fight with someone, you know in some big battle like the hypergamy wars of 2019 I call them with the fraud father himself Rollery people were like, you know, oh, anthony's a bridge burner anthony attack did this and this is all the opposite of reality This is a manipulation by him as a defensive position Once he started attacking me and you know defaming me is actually the one who started it and since then Yeah, whenever I call someone out. It's funny. You mentioned that um People get really annoyed like, oh, why didn't you see this sooner? Why didn't you call it sooner? Oh my god? This and that and the reality is these people are not uh sufficiently red pilled enough yet to understand that At least 80 of the the content creators they watch on youtube and on twitter and all this bullshit These people are fake to different degrees not everyone is like a predator You know pastor or something like that You have different degrees of hypocrisy and impredation and fraud And people lying to themselves too. They they eventually buy their own bullshit I think jesse lee man. He's been preying on dudes young men for like 30 years So that lie is so deep in his psychology I think in you know with rollery too like rollo has built himself up into this godfather fraud father And he actually buys his crap and he's just like some never had never was loser guitar guy Who hasn't had a same at lay in 30 years and his wife treats him like shit And it's it's it's just embarrassing. This guy gives people dating advice to it's you know embarrassing to watch and then you have these young guys who are like So sucked into these little miniature cults of personality cuck murphy was another one. Holy crap. That was an epic explosion That was awesome to watch and I was very happy to take a big part in that behind the scenes On the other hand, I've seen you have some pretty like serious arguments with honest men And then I've seen you guys make up a day or two later and everyone is friends again And it doesn't end the friendship and now that's the key is the honest men Come back and go. Yeah, I'm sorry. I made a mistake there. I was wrong I said something that was incorrect and you guys restore the relationship And I actually think that after that kind of a blow-up men have a stronger relationship than they had before they had a fight um Arguments and fights make men's relationships with each other stronger Because they they test the reasonableness of both parties and they test whether or not they're really gonna be honest Is this guy really one of my guys? Or is he a fake? Yeah, and you know that you don't know that until you have a fight. This is part of the reason why some of the Um some of the things that came up that you've exposed you didn't realize it until You have a fight and the guy shows who he really is Yeah, exactly until there's a test and in confrontation with uh with reality And with their spoken word or what they profess to believe I was thinking about this too because I've been thinking about more exposed videos I need to do there's actually I always have a list of like 10 to 15 I need to make and eventually get around to like one or two, you know And then slowly over time But I was thinking about doing some examples because in the past have been examples in my exposed videos about politicians And I focused on like a democrat Andrew Gillum one time The uh, he ran for governor in florida He you know alleged to be this, you know a strong family man and a good father and a good mayor And then he was actually banging gay hookers and Miami and doing crystal meth and Other drugs and vomiting all over the place all over the news I mean, it was it was a legendary, you know eff up politician After he lost of course and he presented himself to 20 million floridians as a good man and a good father and I love florida and blah, blah, blah But then I was thinking about republicans too like uh, john mccain who died a couple years ago He professed for many years as the most aggressive anti obamacare Of republican and then when it came to a vote He was the one the only one who fucked the whole thing up to repeal it So it's like you have it on both sides of the alleged political spectrum You have it in culture wars with the manisphere, for example And other content creators, you know, there's all kinds of frauds on youtube youtube has it There's like the manisphere, which is across different uh platforms, you know reddit You know twitter youtube, but then youtube has its own content creator network of And they're who are mostly frauds. They just pretend to be You might maybe you can comment on this I see a lot of youtubers and it really annoys the crap out of me They pretend to be like the friend of their viewers Like hey fans. Hey, you beautiful bastards. We're buddies today. It's like man, you know, very fake Yes, super fake but people fall for it because they're all like oblivious to manipulation. They need your effing book And they talk to them like the children They talk to them like their children, which is the worst part of it all And even my nine-year-old son, he'll come across some of those videos and he's like There's something wrong with this guy And I I I take him and I'll watch through some of these things and I'll see what's wrong with this guy What bothers you about him? Okay, because we're told most Children can recognize there's something wrong And the problem is we're trained out of it We're trained to ignore our instincts and to ignore that most kids. No, that's a bad man You get a little three-year-old kid somebody wants to come up and give the kid a hug and the kid cries about it Don't let that person hug your kid, you know, kid might be having a bad day But maybe the kid's got a better sense than you do of stranger You know, maybe that kid's right Yeah, well kids have that instinct and we train it out of them. No, I'm sorry You're not allowed to have your own personal space. No, you're not allowed to have your own opinions You got it. You got to follow the dominant narrative I say this all the time about especially young feminists that most of them aren't actually feminists They're just submissive women following the dominant narrative and right now the dominant narrative they hear is feminism Yes, you're told this is what a good girl believes. Okay I get like 18 20 year old girls that I coach sometimes and I ask them what do you want to do with your life? Well, my mom says I should go to college. Well, my teacher says I'd be a good engineer I'm like, well, what do you want? Well, I was told that It's all I was told. Well, what do you imagine if nobody told you anything and you just decided what you want Nine out of ten times they say I just want to get married and have babies Yep, and they say it so sheepishly and I'm like you feel that need inside of you. Yeah Why don't you tell anyone tell people that's how you feel inside your needs matter too? And that's what manipulation is about is saying your needs don't matter You need to do what I want you to do. Yeah I want to go ahead I just want to say I want to add that, you know, you mentioned that feminism is a dominant narrative for young women I think it's actually more than that It's risen to the level of a kind of baseline religion for them Because it dominates their belief system so totally and so absolutely and they have that like you're saying It's shoved down their throat from everybody school teachers their mom their dad their church pastor or whatever Their friends their aunt their grandma Maybe not their grandma, but pretty much everybody but their grandma and their grandpa and even then who knows right 50 50 on that maybe I mean, it's a it's a disaster and my girlfriend was like this too, man She never went to college. Thankfully, uh, which would be terrible I think women should only go to college like 40 plus if ever But she Wanted, you know, like to build a family and these these things are important to her kind of family information and all that And everyone told her the opposite that's stupid blah blah blah. You need to go to college. You need to get educated Thankfully, she never did But otherwise she wouldn't you know be here with me But yes, it is a disaster. Don't tell women what to do because we're telling them what to do So you can't don't do it, man You and this is why I tell guys like you meet a feminist who's under 25 usually And if you're and if she hasn't ruined herself like, you know, she's not ballooned up to 400 pounds and destroyed her health Don't take too much stock in the fact. She says she's a feminist I'm like just be become the dominant narrative in her life. And if she follows along with that Wife her, you know, if she follows along with you, that's great And if she wants to if she doesn't want to follow your narrative, then fine That's that's not who you're going to marry and it's because otherwise There's all the only other women you find who don't follow that narrative are the aggressive someone anti-social high testosterone Ladies that and you know, some of these are great women in some ways But they're tough. They're they're difficult to deal with but they have the It's backbone to say no to feminism On the other hand, they also have the backbone to say no to all the betas And there just isn't enough alphas to go around for these women. Yeah Yeah, most men by far are betas. That's why men have to we got to make men alpha again They got to be fucking alpha I've been thinking uh Go ahead I think the real difference in that whether you're out for a beta is To a large extent is did you grow up? Are you are you done growing up? And most men haven't grown up. We you know, sometimes we talk about we live in an effeminate society That's not really true. There's nothing wrong with femaleness It's that we live in an immature society. We live in a childish society And so men are childish and they stay children And that's that's what a beta is the beta is there to be told what to do like a like a kid What do I do? And he's looking to to be told what to do And when you grow up, you don't need to be told what to do you become high agency self-sufficient and capable of managing your own life What is that? That's an alpha Yeah, yeah, you lead your own life. You're the author of your own life. You make your own decisions You're constantly leading you're constantly pushing in a certain direction even if you end up changing later You're aggressive and assertive Yeah, people get so butthurt about the alpha thing they go, you know The scientists who made it up about the wolves the waiters even like it. There's the theory anymore. There's no alpha wolves I'm like, I don't give a shit It's a useful. It's a useful binary system To push guys in a masculine healthy mature direction and to make fun of beta males and shame them for being beta males For being ignorant and not knowing better. I mean to some degree, right? It's not infinite I'm gonna make fun of them enough to roast them and to kind of challenge them To get them to feel you know something negative so that they do something feel some pain Feel some emotional pain you stupid beta and become an alpha male What about guys you say that go ahead? So our woman told me yesterday. She says women see three types of men There's alphas. That's who they want to reproduce with There are betas. That's who they want to get stuff from and there are omegas and that's who they want to crush and punish Because they want to make sure they're out of the gene pool completely like there's no way they're going to reproduce And the revulsion women have to that That those those men on the bottom, you know and a lot of those men on the bottom They could do a lot to come out. Very few of us are living up to our potential Yeah, most of us are we've been manipulated into believing that the things we need to do to live up to our potential are somehow toxic and so we're not doing that and That you once you can identify that like reading this book is a bit dangerous Because once you figure out where you're being manipulated You're going to see it everywhere And the changes you're going to make are going to cause friction between you and the manipulators in your life And it's going to change you for the better But yeah, you're you're going to have to nut up after reading the book That that actually describes my own journey and the manisphere Just as an event organizer as a leader in a capacity that's always been central to like many different content creators and authors and speakers And over the many years I've become more mature a lot more alpha and a lot less beta And I've this friction that people see over the past couple years three four years. I've become much more aggressive and much more Conflict prone like oh, there's a fight to be had with some fraud who's trying to manipulate me Lie to their own fans, you know other cry, you know cross fans as well I just don't have any fucking tolerance for it anymore So now when there's a fight to be had and I think it's appropriate to fight and proper and healthy For the movement that I fucking execute and this like scares people Especially all the beta males, which is most of the manisphere It's even it's most of the most of the population and first of all But it's still that that number 80 percent whatever it's still pretty prevalent in the manisphere And it sucks, but it has to get done But anyway, it's been a personal journey for me to move in that direction Where I'm willing and able to fight and whereas when I was younger I didn't have the power yet to fight and I didn't understand how I was being manipulated personally How these different speakers and coaches and whatever how fake they really were people I looked up to Whether or not they ever spoke, you know, for example I used to look up to like Neil Strauss author of the game and it doesn't mean I don't like the game the book It was inspiring and entertaining But Neil is a huge beta. He's always been kind of a little weasel and Owen cook is another one Tyler from rst I used to look up to that guy I used to love reading his blog the guy's a huge liar a huge fraud and a huge beta And when I was 17 18 19 years old That was a guy who was kind of like a hero to me That I hoped would speak in my convention on that one day I would never let him see my convention now. He's a loser. I can run circles around I have more masculinity in my left fucking pinky and that guy does in his whole body He's a liar fraud and fake and it's disgusting And there's a lot of men like that that when I was younger, you know And the even in the manisphere a young manisphere and Now i'm a lot older manisphere and and now these people piss me off And now I have a lot more power and a lot more reach to actually to fight with them and cause them problems That they deserve because they're lying manipulative fake pieces of shit weasels and betas And yeah, I think it I think beta males too are very They find this very peculiar I'm saying that right. It's like they don't know how to comprehend it. It's like who's manipulating me How am I being manipulated? What the fuck's going on? Why are they fighting? Can't we all just get along and sing kumbaya? It's like this fake unity to keep move the manisphere forward that actually holds it back And then well and one of the things to do like the alphas don't need to lie Yeah, they don't need to show if they don't need to pretend to be someone they're not Because they're completely happy with the person they are But if you're a beta and you see these alphas and you want what they have see it's that If you're an alpha and you just Are a beta sorry and you're just like this is this is where I am. I got to work hard I had a client the other day. He's like, I guess I'm just I'm not an alpha like I thought I was And I'm like you you could be but you're gonna have to put some work in over the next few years to get your life in order And he's like, okay. I accept where I am and I accept what I could be I said good now You're gonna make progress Yeah, the problem is they don't accept it and they're short their shortcut to get there is to lie Yep, and the alphas don't need to do that That's you know, you want to find out the best guys to get along with is usually the most dangerous men The most dangerous men are the men that are easiest to get along with Because they don't need to show up. They don't need to pretend to be something. They're not they just show who they are And that's impressive enough. I told my my son this he's been exercising a lot He goes back to school and I said don't go to school and show them how strong you are Just let people observe. You don't need to show up Just let it be seen by how you live And most of these guys most of these betas they didn't have a father And if they did he wasn't a man and because of that they weren't taught how to behave Properly they weren't taught that You have to earn being You know getting to the top and then there are some men who just never will And you know, you got to you got to be comfortable with that. You're gonna keep struggling That's just what's gonna happen and that that dishonesty that's at the root cause of all of these problems Yes Now that brings me to an important question I have so one theory I've had as I continue this war on the frauds and For to make the manosphere great again as I think uh It's more inadvertent like I don't think it's Because you're saying and I agree that you know when there's manipulation going on it begins with the self It begins inside you you're lying to yourself in some capacity to cover up some pain or some trauma Or you know to avoid some difficult Inner work to become alpha to become more mature to become more masculine So one theory I've had though is that one of the reasons that frauds become popular in the first place is because they lie so much And therefore in a in a like attracts like Kind of capacity there's always that debate right? Does it you know the like attract like or to do pee with opposites attract whatever? I think there's probably elements of both of that at play throughout the world in our populate in our species But anyway with frauds when these dudes lie so much it actually attracts beta males who are lying to themselves Oh, I don't need to be alpha. There's no such thing as alpha. It's okay to be beta Oh, whatever woman or just hoes blah blah like all this dumb shit Anyway, so when I look at stuff like this, you know simpson hood these guys are three You know key frauds in my view shardy faking and frotty But they now one of them is not very popular at all and I'll get this shit about the shardy lately I destroy that guy But these other two are still pretty popular for now before they blow up and implode. I'm looking forward to it But anyway, it's like dudes who lie to themselves the guys the fans they have are mostly just beta losers by far by far On large they have some haters to follow them But mostly it's this weak beta males who grew up without a father They're raised by a single mom. They lie to themselves. They make excuses And I think these dudes attract them because they're just reflecting that at a higher frequency Or a higher volume almost So does that theory does that theory makes sense and does that hold any weight to you? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense a lot of these betas they have these walter midi fantasies I don't know if you know what I mean It's the it's a story where the guy he was in the army But he's like a desk clerk or something he gets out and he tells people these stories of his great heroism And his entire life ends up being revolving around his imagination of who he could have been if only And these these frauds they feed that walter midi fantasy Yes, the thing is is fantasies separate you from reality and they separate you from other people And so the more that you can separate your prey from the herd The more control you have over them and you know people are like well Are they making a lot of money or this or that off of these it's not about that It's about the power they have to control other people the attention they get from other people There are men that are just like women Get a high off of attention Yeah, you get a high off of people paying attention to them and looking up to them and saying you're great That's exactly what happens with these guys people people donate a five, you know five dollars super chat, right? Oh shout out to the super chat blah blah blah and On one hand it's like okay. Thanks for supporting my show on the other hand It's that attention that they're giving them and that's what these guys are addicted to just like women They're all these beta males are very female like they're very feminine in that way That they love the attention from especially from this kind of father figure that they have it's really sick and perverse Well, you know alpha he if he wants Um approval he wants it from a peer He wants another alpha to you know do the chin up nod that he recognizes him and he doesn't need that But it's it's great great to have that approval from another alpha But these guys they need it because their entire Their existence is based on a lie and it's based on the fact that other people believe the lie Because if nobody believes a lie anymore and we we see this with other movements as well Where if you don't believe their lies and their delusions, they say that they're you're doing violence against them. You're erasing them Yeah, why? Because if you don't agree with their delusion Then all we've got left is reality and the reality is not kind to these people The reality is historically beta men did not reproduce Yeah And we did they get sent off to war to die, you know They they fight the wars of rich old men. They get uh weeded out of the gene pool They get cucked literally they get cheated on they get you know all kinds of just nasty shit What is it 80% of men throughout history didn't reproduce something like that historically? I mean that's that's a perfect split alpha beta people say alpha beta doesn't exist It's like look at the fucking history books or look at look at the evolutionary record Or the ancestral record whatever you'd call it Now the good news is we're all descended from alpha's That's the yeah Yeah, good point. So that potential to mature and grow up into a man is there for almost everyone I think some people just get a short end of the You know genetic lottery and that's not possible for them But for most men it is and I don't think we've ever we've never had less bothering but we've also never had more Access to the information that men do need through other sources Yeah, and you know, this is there is no institution anymore that's going to Raise you up. No one's coming to save you As as Andrew Tate says no one's coming to save you. No one's coming to save us We're gonna have to save ourselves and while we're at it grab a few friends and pull them along with you and that that is It's never been in such an equal playing field, you know people are upset about their lot in life They've never had a greater chance in history to improve that lot in life Yes, but it's the fact that they complain about it instead of doing something about it that keeps them in their beta position Yep Beta males for life, but they don't have to be Yeah, yeah it so you do reject the idea then that you know I like to say that basically anybody like you're saying can become can be alpha can become a genuine alpha can transform into that Can really deeply You know achieve real personal deep change Not the illusion of it not pretend not just a little bit like actually make fundamental changes But then like I think what you're saying is they just make excuses. They don't want to do the work I tell guys in my newsletter all the time. It's like look i'm you can come to them I can mention I think it's the best event in the world for men by a long shot It's extremely powerful for you, but it's not really going to change you. You're going to change yourself The event's going to help you do the work. You know Noah revoy You know aj cortez socrates coach greg. It doesn't matter. They're not going to change you. They can't Like you can't change them you when you're a coach I had I paid you for coaching You're one of like the two men in the history of the universe who I've ever paid for coaching This because i'm like a cheap fuck, but also i'm really really picky I don't like paying people for money for coaching if I don't really trust them you and pat steve millen guys ever pay for coaching But anyway, yeah, I know that you can't change me I'm not i'm under no delusion of that and that's what makes When I see these frauds in the manuscript, you know promising guys all this bs and all this like Secret red pill knowledge where they make some feel powerful this illusion of power. They still don't know jack shit about women Uh, it makes them it makes them feel like they're changing, but they're really not And they they're still like oblivious to the fact that they have to change themselves I'm sure and you're coaching. This is what you believe, right? Yeah, they're they're all about avoid Uh risk so avoid true, you know avoid women basically because it's a risk instead of become the man that can handle risk And I'm all about yeah, this sounds so lefty retarded, but I'm about giving men power Uh or showing them the path to power, you know empowering. I hate to use that word But that's really what it is the leftist co-opted all the cool words. Unfortunately But that is what that's necessary developing your own agency so that you have the power to do it on your own And I come from it come at it from a fatherly frame I don't want my son to need me to tell him what to do any more than absolutely necessary I want him to know what to do. I want him to be impelled by his own inner person to do the right thing So that I don't have to do it. My goal is not to raise a boy. It's to raise a man And my goal when I'm coaching men is to tournament is is to give him the path to become a better man So that he doesn't need me, you know as as soon as possible I want to get him to that point where you know, he's a near peer like he's he's coming up in my direction And I tell guys, you know, there's going to come a point where and this happens with almost every client They go, I was gonna I was going to message you and ask you a question But I thought what would Noah say Which means that I've implanted the thinking process is necessary for having agency in their brain And they go, I didn't need to ask you the question. I already knew the answer Because you've taught me the process of solving the problem And that's really what it is is like men are problem-solving machines There's no food. What do I do? I go and I hunt I'll kill something and eat it, you know, uh, some the neighboring tribe is attacking our tribe What do I do? I organize the guys and we build spirits and we go out and we spear them to that You know, we we solve problems whatever the problems are and the man who can solve more problems That's the man who is more powerful. That's what gives you powers your ability to solve problems There's um When god appeared before moses in the burning bush, he says I am who I am In other words, I become whatever I need to become to solve the problem That's the epitome of masculinity is becoming whatever you need to be to solve the problem And that requires a lot of agency but it's painful to learn that Yes, it's you you have to You have to go around other men because you can you're not going to learn this in a vacuum You have to be around other men. This is why 21 convention is so important for a lot of guys That's their first chance to be around other mature men Yeah They they never maybe had that opportunity and those men will judge you and that's the painful part The painful part is that men pointing out your flaws But you know what if no one if none of the men that are around you are pointing out your flaws It's either because they're too stupid to notice them or they don't love you enough To tell you when you need to improve And that's all you have to as soon as you get over that Shame of and the shame comes from being manipulated all your life The shame comes from mostly and honestly starts with mothers a lot of times the shame from your mother judging you for your failures Gets generalized into the future and if you don't have a father to correct that in you at the second half of your childhood You keep it And now your failures make you ashamed instead of the other man's judgment being seen as hey He cares enough about me to tell me I'm a fat fucking I need to exercise like So on the on the judgmental part I love that because you're one of the female and I've heard say that and I love I've tweeted it many times I believe it philosophically from a objectiveist point of view Judging is a good thing. You know, I think you should judge everyone and everything all the time every day 24 7 if you're not sleeping And this annoys people because there's always, you know, the left and the whole feminist crap and all the world craps Always like don't judge. Don't be judgy. Why are you judging me? Oh my god? I hate this garbage your mind like you're saying It's a sign of enormous insecurity It's a sign of weakness. Yeah, exactly. It's it's just like extremely fucking lame to put it nicely But yeah, it's good to judge. I mean everything An objective is in many ways, you know, everything your mind does problem solving, you know, thinking things through creating new ideas Whatever you are judging right from wrong. You're judging judging reality. You were judging facts from fiction This is why this is what I mean by judgment judge think apply do something now you also mentioned Basically like you know Being judgmental to your friends telling them what you really think when they need to hear it And that's what I did with my friend John Thomas who got big butthurt when I made fun of him for getting legally cucked With a what he described to me From as I talked to him privately as well He described this chick as a you know, like most western women when he met her Of course, and now she has his balls in a vice like this and he's a little poodle And he got really butthurt about this, you know, he threatened You know, basically threatened aggravated assault all kinds of stuff. He got big butthurt on audio I put it out that pissed him off even more. It's pretty awesome But he was someone asked about this guy and it made me think of this like what you're saying This is someone who I told him privately. I was like, look, I'm the one guy right now Who has the balls to tell you what my honest opinions about and observations of what I'm seeing and I think it's ridiculous and Very unhealthy and very blue pill in a classic manuscript sense You know, no buts about it. Like this is totally stupid to a to z And no one else I guess around him had everyone in public was like clapping and shit I'm like, this is really a bunch of seals your bunch of zombies In private, obviously nobody's pulled them aside and said, hey, is this a good idea? This actually looks like a terrible idea But nobody had the balls to say that and of course, I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna tell them exactly what I fucking think and then my tweet about it Because because you know what the truth matters above all and no one is above the truth And I was a teenager We had a friend that my friend group is a bit older than me And he was going to get married to this woman that none of us liked and we knew it was going to be Living nightmare for him. We kidnapped him We took him to the woods for four days and made him go camping with us And I mean literally we went into his house and grabbed him and dragged him out and threw him in the car and held him down until we got On the highway so he couldn't jump out of the car and we took him camping for four days And you know, we got him drunk and told him like you got to think about this Well, you're drunk where your inhibitions are down so that you're thinking or sometimes inhibition lowering makes you think clearly Because we've been trained with these stupid inhibitions to to ignore our own instincts for survival Especially as men And we've been trained by that almost exclusively by women by our mothers Because we have to put up when you're when you're six years old you got to put up with whatever your mum dish is at So you just learn to take it and that you know, I can't imagine she doesn't love me because if I do That's the end of my life And so you learn to put up with this and it becomes Part of who you are and if your dad doesn't get that out of you as you get older um, it never gets out of you usually so We made sure that he understood like we didn't like her and this is why and by the end of it Yeah, they never got in and end up getting married. He was kind of pissed off until about day three I don't know how long we were going to keep him there Until he changed his mind basically That makes me think about I've declined several wedding invitations over the past couple years because I don't support the wedding I don't support the relationship and this in in my own You know private personal life friends and family and stuff. This really pisses people off Because they just because it's so You know, I guess I'm sure a long time ago. This is more common If you didn't support the marriage you didn't fucking go or you went and you spoke up This is how can you stand there and the guy says Does anyone have an objection and you not object? No one says shit exactly. Yeah So, you know, basically I would go do that otherwise But it's you're gonna cause an uproar and these people are gonna get super pissed I might do it at some point just to fucking go that route. You got options But I tell them flat out like I don't support the marriage. I don't support the relationship It's gonna blow up in your face It's gonna last probably three to seven years and then it's gonna blow up in your face Someone's in a divorce. Someone's gonna cheat and it's stupid doesn't work. It doesn't work now Didn't work before it's not gonna work in the future Getting married is gonna be is like pouring gasoline on a burning fire a young fire at this point, right? So anyway, it just pisses people off super bad But I wish more people I hope that I can inspire men listening like if you see someone in your personal life Like Noah, you had a friend you took him out to the woods You guys got drunk for a couple days and you straighten them out that needs to happen a lot more That's what men should do for each other and that's what I try to do You know, john simas was and maybe still is in way a friend, right loosely speaking We weren't ever like close or anything but he was a speaker a couple times and Then he made this like really stupid blue pill mistake and he's extremely beta So I made him into a poodle and then he got really butt hurt But maybe he'll wise up and get out of this, you know, unhealthy toxic relationship That's probably kind of abusive least emotionally But hey, maybe I'm wrong doesn't get out of it Just the knowledge of what it is the only way he can fix it is to admit what it is He can't fix something that you're not admitting isn't working and yeah, I like john too Um, you know, and I wish him the best but man like every man that saw the photos cringed Including his friend. They just didn't say anything. Yeah, exactly It's not like nobody noticed it, but you and me and a few other guys everyone noticed it. He just didn't say anything because we're All of the left and three quarters of the right are are the no judgment people. They're betas. They're all fucking betas So so rare you find a man that's willing to make judgments And you know, there are there are the odd woman It's like that too that's willing to come out and say things And we have to you know, I've noticed I have to be careful then not to jump all over those women You know stop being a bitch type thing, you know, because they actually know they're right And they got to say something. Yeah, I would say uh, Janet professor janice femen goes a really good example that he always does it Even handed and right very intelligent woman a great man in a way janice femen go Alpha alpha woman alpha female Yeah one and and and good at mixing that with um with feminine behavior That is that that's the hard thing is for a woman to mix That masculine agency With feminine behavior and the women that do that those are the those are the women that Men most are interested in like if you know if they're women watching this and you want to know what men are interested in We want high agency women that still act like women And that's that's a really rare mix because this idea that women are children It comes from experience with women But it is a pain in the ass to manage a woman that's acting like a child It's kind of funny at first Um, then you try to have kids with someone like that and you go off to work and you're like, I wonder what's gonna happen when i'm gone You should Yeah, is the house gonna burn down? Who the fuck? What is she gonna feed them like real food or Slap, you know genetically modified soy garbage and you know, you're raising your kids Mostly she does the work during the first, you know seven eight ten years of their life And after that the father really does the the majority should be doing the majority of the parenting after that You got to have a lot of trust in her and she's got to have her act together And you know a lot. I don't have a problem with a young woman not having her act together yet Uh, as long as she has a humility then to learn Someone asked me the other day, uh, if I write a book There's a book the care and feeding of husbands It's for how women can take care of their husband like what they need to do to support him And they said what would you write for husbands for women? And I said it'd be the training and domestication of wives and That's basically what it is As men so often we end up with the only women that are available aren't Completely developed yet Isn't this what husband husbandding means husbandry is to it comes from like domestication of animals, right? Yes, exactly. Yeah, you get to domesticate the wife. You got a tamer and controller Yeah, well and and and the the objective is to get her to cooperate Not just to submit but to cooperate in other words. She can now operate on her own Well, you're gone and look after the you know cover cover all the things that you can't do because you're at work You're out doing things I knew since a very young age that the path I would walk in life would be dangerous That I would say things that people didn't like to hear. I was doing that as a kid that I would You know, I have I have been Investigated by the FBI for things I've said that were Yeah, I've had child protective services Twice do investigations. I recently had an intelligence agency Claim that I'm a terrorist and a russian agent and all kinds of stuff like this Because of things I'm saying are pissing the right people off and they're throwing whatever they can at me And I'm being very careful that I haven't been canceled yet But I was on facebook but I haven't been canceled from all social media What happens is is I knew when I got married I had to pick a woman that if I was in jail Or on the run or there was some kind of problem. She's going to hold the fort down. Well, I'm gone Yeah If you want to in this day and age if you want to be a man and you want to do great things You've got to pick a woman that has her act together or who will learn to get her act together after you married her And that's really like you got to you got to look for that. Well, you're picking the woman Well, you mean respond positively to your leadership is really what that means like be responsive Like Your agency like she needs to learn to imitate your agency She sees how you make decisions and what she should be asking herself is my husband's not here But if he was what would he tell me? Yeah, good question and that's that's the ideal and the closer she can get to being accurate in that The better a wife she's going to be and the more happy she's going to be as well What do you think about this meme? Uh, well, it's actually an advertisement, but it's also I love it It's hilarious. My favorite meme of the year dominate your wife dominated life And I just put a picture of elliott and his wife here, uh for women with no men will get offended women with a man That is a dominant man Find this incredibly attractive You know, there's there's this there's this split So I show this this photo an occasionally joke that I kidnapped my wife and that's how I got her to marry me And there's always a bunch of women that say that's so hot I love that, you know, you you dominate her over powered or took her back to your tribe and married her and it's a it's completely a joke like They they women mostly if they're honest with themselves, that's what they want They don't want to marry a man. They can dominate Now there is a few exceptions to that. There are Extremely broken women. They cannot let go and cannot go into their feminine and are so far onto the masculine side of the the um, uh sexual dimorphism that They don't want it's not that they want a man. They can dominate. It's that they want a man child that they can mother Yeah, they want a son They want to turn them into kind of a son. Yeah. Yeah, it's very healthy and very shitty Yeah, I I remember this feminist telling me that growing up my dad was my best friend He was like an older brother to me and blah blah blah blah blah because I said, you know Feminists often have weak fathers and her answer was to reply like this and I'm like I wasn't sure if she was agreeing with me because that was pretty much agreement Or disagreeing with me because she was proving my point Women want a man That they can't beat on any sphere. There should be no sphere in which your wife can beat you. That's ideal Now sometimes because life is what it is. Maybe your wife can earn more money than you You know, maybe she's higher IQ than you. Okay, but you got to dominate her in all the other aspects When you can't She becomes anxious. She becomes fearful. If you can't dominate me a woman How's he gonna protect me with the bad man? Yep, and because others know bad man is it's the 21st century. It's like have you been watching the news? You know every every other thing is like civil war is coming. Uh, we're not going to have any food this winter and uh electricity in northern europe And world war three is coming on top of that And the rest of their invading and maybe ebolo break out next like worldwide I mean, it's it's it's been a wild couple years and it looks like it's gonna keep heating up Yeah, and I actually I've been kind of you know, wishing hope and praying that we get some Massive mass-scaled discomfort without a lot of people dying. Yeah, and I think we're gonna get that this winter here in europe Uh, I I made this joke on twitter that uh started was starting yesterday Germans are now having to take cold showers Law passed they're supposed to take cold showers to save energy Well, it's gonna get a lot colder pretty soon, right? I mean, it's not freezing yet But it's gonna get balls cold and what a month or two The last time the Germans were forced to take cold showers and not have enough food to eat in the night in the 20s We got the 30s You know, are we are we trying for a repeat here? But you know, if you want people if you want men to wake up give them cold showers You know, um think what this is going to do to women's psyche when it's like we can't even keep the hot water hot Yeah, because russia cut the pipeline off right permanently and definitely was the word Yeah, and then they sent this picture to mock them of a transformer with a couple of drops of oil on it and said Oh, there's an oil leak. We had to shut it off for safety reasons Wow Yeah, apparently they have a great of contracts. This is all contractual And uh their contract says it might have to be shut down for safety reasons. So they had to create a mid manufacturer Where does you live in you live in portugal? Where does portugal get his energy from? We we get our portugal in spain or on a separate grid from the rest of europe The spanish have almost all renewable energy that they destroyed their entire economy to build Although at least they got something this winter and where I am. I usually never turn my heat on I can I can walk around like this in the wintertime most of the time and i'm fine Uh, I I could probably you know just wear shorts all year long and I'd be fine Not because it's warm just because i'm a warm guy Well, yeah, you're pure-blooded. I'll take your yeah, I just take the beard tuck it in my shirt and i'm warm Yeah, that's awesome. But yeah, it's And my wife's like that too like my wife and I in a room and the room's plenty warm just when the heat come in office so That's not a problem here, but the food shortages will be a problem everywhere Because you know if it get people get hungry enough They'll do anything to get food. Yeah Hunger is the best predictor of um of people becoming more conservative Yeah Suffering through periods of famine met uh Permanently changes people's outlook on everything from immigration to government spending um to government in their lives It changes everything and we're about to get Some hunger It's going to bring us back in line with reality again Uh, perhaps for the first time since the end of the second world war everything's been good We've been every year everything's better. It's going to keep getting better no matter Let's shit test the system and elect all women into power You know, um, the americans will bail us out again if we're in trouble Don't worry and now, you know, europe is sitting here looking at america's trans army And going they can't bail us out from anything You know, they they're going to have a hard time patrolling their own coast at this rate and I mean the u.s. Government has clearly said If you look there are documents from the u.s. Government that have been made public that say the u.s. Government is incapable ofwithstanding a civil war Yeah, they know it how can they protect europe so europe's now on our on our own and we're going Oh, I guess it was a bad idea to you know, send every soldier home get rid of all our guns And put women in charge of the military. Yeah, I get it reminds me too of uh, you know, you know Fiora fiora biden talking about like f-15s and a civil war and all this crap And it's like you're you're clearly delusional. You clearly don't know a lot about this You could know in your position, but you really don't and yeah, america has an insane amount of guns We have more guns than people in this country. Thankfully. I love it ammunition, you know in the billions. Who knows Well, and what he doesn't what what I think a lot of politicians don't They may realize this and that may be why they're so desperate right now Is it very often a large number of the people protecting them? Wouldn't side with them if they started to use weapons against the american people Yeah, that's what I want to say your mind. It's it's it's anxiety that we're hearing that's why f-15s f-15s Like what are you talking about? Does the air force even use f-15s anymore? They use like f-18s and shit Like what are you talking about? They sold the last f-15 to Like that thing they gave it to iraq in a military deal like years ago Yeah, that's old technology like 1980s. Yeah, it was original top gun planes. Not now. Yeah, I know Boomer talk. I don't have any twos now It's it's boomer anxiety talk because he's anxious about a civil war And I guess when you poke and prod people and try to label half the country domestic terrorists that you're kind of fucking asking for it It's insane this stuff. I've been seeing with that. Yeah, but I feel like back to Lincoln. He was constantly talking about saving the republic Okay, not not that what he did was the ideal way to save it But he kept talking about saving the republic and and if you look back at previous presidents, they keep referring to the republic Biden never refers to republic. It's all our democracy our democracy our democracy Yeah, the u.s. Is not a democracy It is a republic. So what is he referring to that? He's worried is is not going to be saved Something u.s. Government. He's not worried about that. He's worried about their scam their manipulation being I think it's worried about He's worried about the I think he's worried about the deep state is like really specifically what he's referring to democracy means deep state They all these agencies deep state, you know all this fucking crap garbage It all needs to be thrown up purged abolished Evil okay, the supreme court has actually started to Restore some of this. I don't think that any gun laws will survive 2023 They they're going hard after it and what a lot of people don't realize is that they they didn't go after gun laws. They said that laws that were that were How did that go that did not follow the angle of sacks and legal norms. So we're going back to pre united states Uh, we're not constitutional because they that was what the constitution was based on Yeah, and so they you have to prove now that a law follows those norms. Well, you know what else doesn't follow those norms um government backed education So the school system is technically unconstitutional Uh Income tax is technically even though there's been constitutional amendment that amendment Was done It didn't follow the rules that were necessary to put an amendment because you can't change the amendment can't go against The previous existing law Yeah, it can add in and amendments are not there to take away rights. They're only there to add rights So we're gonna we're possibly going to see Massive changes and this is very like we talk about civil war as being something with you know guns and shooting There is other kinds of civil war. There are manipula. I say that manipulation is social and emotional warfare And we're in a civil war that is fought through manipulation Yeah And it's people call that a cold war or or whatnot, but it's a cold war fought through Manipulation and this is why most people who are unarmed Are are unable to defend themselves in this manipulation A lot of people have been criticizing for example, Andrew Tate over the things that he's been saying or More or less, they just don't like him. That's what they're criticizing on And what I say to them is then provide a better alternative Because if you're not out there influencing young men, you don't get a say in the future You can't say I don't like the influence that guy has go take his influence then Yeah, take it from but they can't because they're too fucking weak Yes, well because I was gonna listen to them and because they haven't actually been out there in the trenches with young men To know what young men are even interested in And they're and a lot of guys their solution is well go to church it's like Which church? Which church is going to help young guys make more money? get a woman And and and and get independence from the system Most of the churches are so embedded into the system. They're going to go the other way around Yep, you know, I know young people that told me we go to a church. We sit down a woman pastor comes out We shake our heads. We get up. We leave we go to another church gay pride flag We leave and they're telling me this like with pain in their voice We're trying to find a church we go through 15 20 of them Not a single one of them has anything to do with the bible or god And we're how much more are we supposed to look? You know, and these are serious young people that are really making an effort And so we have to offer young men Alternatives and I think there should be lots of all healthy alternatives Um for role models what young men can do and nobody's doing that hardly and you know Instead of complaining complaining is what bait is do alpha's go and solve problems I think only the man is here is that I've been I've been thinking about lately And I think you'll get this the rise of the man is fair and it's increasing It's escalating significantly escalating prominence in mainstream culture You had in you know, the the 2010s you had the red pill documentary. It was kind of a thing in 2020 We had make women great again that I started and you were part of That hit, you know huge 150 million people in new york times all that Then we had kevin samuels blow up 2021 You know, that was huge million plus subscribers all over the news then he died, unfortunately Then you had now you have andrew tate the rise of andrew tate one of the The single one of the single biggest events in internet history That was just like recently a few weeks ago and that guy, you know tate He's criticized the man is here at least so he gets along the meat is fine a lot of our speakers But the man is here has a lot of fakes and frauds But ultimately I think he is a man is here like 100 in terms of his ideas and His relationship spanning many years at this point It's a significant part of his life and and kind of where he came from on the internet And now he's like the biggest dude in the world in terms of Popularity and search and you know trending kind of stuff like that, right? So it's like every year that goes by the man is for escalates more and more and more into mainstream culture I think because the need for it is so dire. There's nothing else. There's no church. There's no this organization There's no government. There's no school all the universities all almost all the churches everything Every institution you have every corporation right all fortune 500 companies are woke as fuck Everything is like fucking toxic garbage left and right a to z up and down inside and out Except the man is fear is the one thing pushing back against that Wholesale as I see it everything the man is fear, you know organically rejects the transformers the feminism the woke all this garbage all the lefty crap Even all the fake rhinos and crap. I mean It's a huge pushback against all of it. It's a push for authentic masculinity And that also is why I think getting the frauds like we talked about earlier is so important As it gets closer and closer to mainstream it has to we have to get them out It's a problem that i'm trying to solve as hard as as hard as I can as fast as I can It's difficult and people don't get that, you know I think it's just like some game and it it is a game, but it's also very serious And it's hard. It's difficult to play this game and to win and to fight Well, it is someone wants to help you move this forward dump some money your way You know, this is expensive stuff. It takes time. It takes energy You've done a lot of research background on things. You don't put stuff out unless you're absolutely damn sure it's true Um, and that that takes effort. It takes time And I know there are mature men out there that don't want to get their face involved in things But if you want to change society for the better You're not going to get anywhere through politics. There's no point in you know supporting and donating to politics at the moment This is where the power is the power isn't in the government anymore. The government's a dying entity The power is in the hemisphere and other places like that where people are organizing and I think we're still in the prototype stage Yes, we're we're just We're getting to the point where we're ready to go mainstream and have a big effect And I think starting the patriarch convention a few years ago was extremely important in that Because you're we're promoting patriarchy is the rule of fathers It's not just the rule of men it's rule of the men who have demonstrated success And demonstrated that they can um, they can manage their own families and throughout history the patriarchal societies have always dominated the the mixed or patriarchal societies because we do a better job of running society And we're promoting that again. I mean that was that was the first positive mention of patriarchy in like 50 years was he starting that convention? Yeah, and now I'm hearing positive mentions about patriarchy everywhere. Yeah Yeah, it just occurred to me You know, I mean there was a whole series of what went up to let up to that event but It was my decision ultimately to call the patriarch event and when I did that even in the hemisphere is controversial like I was that a good idea Yeah Fathers should lead their families. You know men should lead in society at minimum That's what this means that should lead their families that should lead their marriages They should lead their relationships, you know, whatever lead their churches lead lead lead lead lead and this is what patriarchy is And yeah, we got to steal these words back from the left and the feminists and crap. That's why I use it too. It pisses them off For free that's about you got to find like what's super effective and then free, you know make one great again Boom, you know, I got it from trump. Obviously you got it from reagan and whoever else studied clinton But you know now it's we're gonna make them in grade again I'm gonna make my outfit and we're gonna bring back to patriarchy because they they blew it up Now we got to rebuild it and they're gonna rebuild it bigger stronger and better than it ever was before And this time it'll be rebuilt in such a way. It can't be torn down That's right. Boom. There you go nail the coffin. Boom. I love it Yeah, we need one the thing too is is you never do things halfway when you do something you go like Balls to the wall and I think calling the page you got it You got a you're not going to win with a left by trying to meet them halfway We have to establish our goalposts and set our boundaries for what things are and then force them to conform to us Not the other way around and I talk about that in the book that a big One of the keys to resisting manipulation is to know what your boundaries are to set them And then you need to develop the power to enforce your boundaries So if you have boundaries, but you have no power to enforce them You might as well not have boundaries. You see this in the south of the united states If they're not willing to enforce the boundary, what's the point of having a border? And it's the same with any personal boundary that we have with other people We can have a person in our life Who sometimes manipulates because like I said, we got rid of every manipulator would be alone We may have a family member that we love dearly But they're a bit manipulative My family who's manipulated doesn't manipulate me and my wife's family's manipulative doesn't manipulate me I hear when they're talking they're thinking about what they're going to say They're thinking I know it's not going to put up with bullshit Yeah, I'm going to have to deal with him straight and this is what happens people start dealing straight with you Now on the other hand you have to be rational and reasonable in return So you have to give something back in return for that But you you make sure that you just don't you can manipulate other people You can't manipulate me I won't tolerate that and you can't manipulate my wife and you can't manipulate my kids Because that's our job is meant to protect our wives and children And that that changes society because people Now have to develop their skills of persuasion And here's the thing is is that most people Don't have much of value to offer And this is why they have to manipulate because they they can't persuade they can't say Okay, I'll do this for you and you do that for me and we'll be even They can't do that because they don't have anything to offer And so they're trying to create a false debt through manipulation that you then have to pay and give to them And once you force them to do persuasion, they have to up their game. They have to become better people So they have something to offer So by resisting manipulation you would make other people better people The knock-on effects are massive You know the the trust that is increased in society If I can if a man allows me to manipulate him, I can't trust him Because that means someone else could manipulate that man as well and turn him into my enemy So I can't trust any man that I can manipulate I can only trust men that are resistant to manipulation and will tell me off if I ever tried to do that to them This is this is much bigger than just our own personal needs and interests and we owe it To ourselves But it's also a duty to society to resist manipulation and set that example And create those knock-on effects out into society And if you know five ten percent of people in the world And when the west read this book and become immune to manipulation That's enough to have an effect over the other 90 95 percent because most people They follow the dominant narrative and that five to ten percent of people now when you can't be manipulated You suddenly become dominant Now you are the dominant narrative And and in this case the dominant narrative is truth And the truthful narrative is a lot easier to maintain than the lie Yeah Now when you're faking reality you create you're creating multiple realities in a way at least figuratively speaking you have to manage them then so and you you know when you have especially when a lie is like against Involving multiple people multiple conversations this and that you're creating like three or four different realities Or if you were honest and truthful and blunt you have one to manage Because there's only one reality you live in existence. You live here I love what you said to you about feminism not meeting them halfway like all these cuck serbatives all these fucking beta males Yeah, like what I would make them agree again one of the main elements of it In fact, probably the biggest one of all is I want to abolish feminism Zero feminism fucking zero a little bit not halfway not 20 percent zero And this scares people because like wait what? They just start they they freak out like a little talking head, you know a little uh like a little plastic thing like you know bobblehead And Conservatives are definitely afraid of winning That's the worst thing that can happen to them They're afraid of winning and they're afraid of women and they're afraid of you know Womankind and their wives and their mothers and their daughters and all this bullshit You know one thing you mentioned earlier that I wanted to say that anytime You know since I really woke the fuck up got red pill became ultra uber giga chat alpha male Anytime I hear a girl say that her father is or was her best friend You know beta dad beta dad and the girl is probably skank or she's fucked up This is the truth 99 times out of 100 your father cannot be your friend You know pat camel may he rest in peace one of our speakers? He said this a couple times that our convention on stage and I love that he had like five kids catholic guy, right? You know bang be fruitful multiply Anyway, he told he would say like i'm not my kid's friend I'm your father and you know was wife and your husband But you know i'm your father to kids He's like i'm not your friend and he said it very sternly but very uh kind of warmly too You know he was very intense guy and no matter what I mean look at the guy who's a beast But yeah, I loved I loved hearing that it came to mind um another thing you mentioned, uh Oh, yeah, so something i'll you know just let the audience know too Kind of anonymously, but I had to deal with the speaker just recently a couple days ago Uh potential speaker for the event never spoke at our event big youtuber, right? You know hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of subscribers one of the biggest speakers we ever have And he tried to manipulate me and I told him basically to eat shit and suck my balls And uh, you're done, you know, they'd be lucky if you don't get me into death So like i'm gonna shove him down his throat and you shoot him out his ass basically is what I told him So literally so that was this one more recent example where I had You know someone tried to manipulate me an instant. All right, you're done The minute someone tries to fucking manipulate me in some underhanded covert way Especially when it involves business speaking engagements, you know any kind of major deal like that You're fucking dead to me because I know that this person, you know that you're gonna try that shit with me You're gonna try it again. You're gonna try it to my friends. You're gonna fuck up my business You're gonna fuck up the man's fair and now I know who you really are behind the mask behind the bullshit, right? The authenticity and mission and purpose and all this bullshit. It's all fucking fake And but in a way, I'm thankful because it also exposed, you know, what was behind that mask, right? That I was still curious about I didn't know I was willing to have him speak I didn't was a maybe this guy is legit. Maybe this guy is good meeting him will help me understand that right face to face shaking hands I contact But no, you tried to fucking me like that. You're dead done permanent. No fucking going back Then of course didn't even apologize, you know, double down like a ultra scammer. You're gonna burn Well, here's the thing at this point They they should know who they're dealing with like It's not like you're not you're completely unknown You know and and that's I mean a lot of people are very successful at manipulating. They're not even very good at it It's just that people are so susceptible to manipulation And people are such suckers that they get pulled into this And it's do you remember those anti-bullying campaigns where they take the bullies aside and they'd say to them Um, you know, you shouldn't do this to kids and you shouldn't do that to them And then you shouldn't like waterboard them and these other things and the bullies just sit there taking notes and go Man, I never thought about that. That's a great idea. He'll do that too. Because most of the police like They didn't intimidate you. Maybe they'd slap you around a bit. They didn't have they didn't have a lot of Imagination for it. Yeah. Well This is why I didn't write a book to say you should stop manipulating. Yeah, I do say that in the book Don't manipulate if you are because you'll just get it back But I wrote a book so that the people who are getting manipulated can defend themselves and that works the same with bullying If you teach the kids that are getting bullied to hit back or do what I did when I was a kid and Organized the other kids to overwhelm the bullies even if they're bigger and older than us beat them till they had to go to the hospital Then you don't have a bullying problem. You can't solve the manipulation problem By telling the manipulators not to manipulate Yeah, it doesn't work. You just you got to be immune to it Then you ought to teach your kids and your wife to be immune to it And it just spreads out from there with the manipulators I think what happens and let me know you think about this little mini theory They develop a sort of arrogance organically from successful manipulation even of like just dumb naive fucking sheep They just build this kind of false bravado for it in their own heads All right, they might not even talk about it publicly, but they they really believe they're on bullshit They believe their own capacity to manipulate So then when they run into me or someone like me like you or my other friends or other speakers and stuff They just get fucking clobber. They don't know what to do But then also it's like did you did you not see me in public? You didn't just meet me Were you not paying attention for the past several years of of actually fighting with these people and actually succeeding and destroying some of these frauds and causing catastrophic You know exposing Basically exposing them with the truth and then catastrophic consequences for them often financially And these things are sometimes you can track you can track, you know the patron dipping 50 60 percent in a year You know you used to have a thousand people and now you have 400. Oh, that's too bad loser All kinds of shit like that because I hate these people All frauds deserve to be exposed and deserve to be destroyed at some capacity, right? Maybe not killed or anything But no if you're gonna lie to people then you deserve what's coming you've you reap what you sow You lie to people you manipulate you you steal to people you basically they're stealing from people through manipulation It's not force. It's fraud And an objective is in philosophy objective is philosophy. It's really the two sides of the same coin It's just force applied directly physically or indirectly through lies and manipulation and fraud Both are wrong both are evil But one of course is more difficult to detect Due to its nature being indirect and you know Lot less transparent all it's easy to see it's easy to when a bully is manipulating somebody with his fists You know like a kid it's easy to see it's easy to spot and hopefully you can put a stop to it But when you're being lied to it's a lot more cognitive. It's a lot more mental psychological and philosophical too Yeah, the bully is a kid in the face. He feels it in that moment Yeah, um manipulator gets you real good that might bother you the rest of your life Actually, I think manipulation is worse than getting punched in the face I mean getting punched in the face might do you some good might get might change the way that you behave And so you go off and learn how to fight and you know, you become grow up because of it facing bullies But if you're manipulated very often it undermines you it neuters men It encourages women to behave in ways which are completely destructive to them And even when the manipulator is long gone and dead People still hear that voice in the back of the head of that person that was manipulating them And they're still making bad decisions because of it. It's truly evil in some cases It's echoes of manipulation. It's echoes of trauma coming heading you in the head Yeah, so I want to talk more about the books More explicitly though some of the table of contents and looking out here So you begin the opening of the book with are you being manipulated? So my question is how do you know you're being manipulated? What are some of the can you give us some of the teasers in the book like What are some of the basic, you know, three ways someone can detect that they're being manipulated by a fraud or a predator or a con artist or some nasty bpd Jezebel woman So there's a bunch of techniques that manipulators use Shaming guilting we call it gs rm. There's there's about a half or is about a dozen of them and these techniques they're designed They're designed to get you out of your rational mind and into your emotional social mind So you're complying for social reasons rather than because it's the right thing to do And anytime someone is trying to Limit your rational thinking they're almost certainly manipulating you and they'll limit it by stimulating your emotions So You know think of the children, you know, you're getting rid of guns because you got to think of the children What about the poor kids? You know, that's very clearly manipulation because they don't want you to make a rational decision They want you to have an emotional feeling about children protecting children Oh, could be some hot trick around a hot trick trying to manipulate you as well. It's blowing you literally I mean sexual stimulation and that kind of pleasure is a is a very they call it the pleasure of prison It's how women to manipulate them Highly manipulate the a great example. He is strippers strippers are master manipulators of men Um, so I and I know some some extroppers it doesn't mean they're all bad people because they're master manipulators of men But that was their job their job was to get money out of men And so they understand how to manipulate a man's loneliness to manipulate a man's Hunger and desire for a woman and they'll get a ton of money from a man without even touching him That's gone on to only fans now mostly. So they'll they'll get money out of guys without touching them They know the things to say they know the things to do To trigger that man's emotions so that it overwhelms his common sense and anyone looking at from the outside goes What a moron But he probably thinks if he sees another guy doing he probably thinks the guy's a moron too But when he does it it's triggering him so much in the emotional sense that his logic shuts down And the the more trauma you've had in your life the easier it is to shut your reason and logic down There's that's what trauma does it floods you with cortisol so that your reason shuts down And so that's that's the first way the other way is when you see someone trying to manufacture a debt that you don't over Yeah, this is particularly useful against men So men are highly reciprocal We we have this built-in honor code that if you wrote does me a favor. I do have a favor back Like I guy buys me dinner Because we will go out together guy buys dinner tomorrow I buy them dinner or you got you buy a beer. I buy you a beer back We have this reciprocity And they will use manipulation to manufacture a false debt. So here's a great one. White guilt is a false debt manufactured to convince white people that they need to keep donating keep giving money and keep Giving up their political power whatever it is because somehow some original sin of being born with white skin Makes you guilty. So that's one at one example of it And these these debts they can never be paid. There is no way you can square that debt That's the other way look for look for that manufactured debt You know as a man if you owe somebody something you don't need to be told if you need to be told you're not a man yet You know, you owe somebody something One of my favorite things to do is to to lend a new friend a small amount of money like a hundred bucks or something And then that never say anything about it again And if he doesn't pay me back I don't keep hanging around with him Because he's he's not a man yet, but he's not interested in paying back his debts. I shouldn't have to say anything about it so Men know when they have a real debt You got to get out of your emotional self go back to your logic and think do I have a real debt here? Do I actually owe this person anything? Who are they to me? And so we can start to to realize this isn't a real debt that we owe this is a manufactured debt um and the last way That we can see that the the third important way is that it is the end result is non reciprocal So they want to compel us to do something that's a win-lose situation win for them lose for us And any kind of relationship that is consistently win-lose is a toxic relationship and needs to be ended Yes, and so that's that's the things we have to look for a woman a woman Yeah, yeah, and and uh people will you know, there are there are people who are bad at that accounting And they don't recognize that they're in these win-lose situations. I know guys that win-lose marriages And they're they're just losing losing losing and their wife doesn't they neither of them are willing to recognize it So it's not always easy that one for men to recognize Get some outside help get some outside perspective. We should have men We can trust to go and make judgment. So they're going to tell us no, you're being stupid That's wrong. That guy's manipulating you. We not only have to protect ourselves. It's really important I mentioned in the book that part of the defense against manipulation is to be ensconced in groups Where you have people to have your back Yeah, because there are times when you don't see the attack coming, but someone else will see it Someone else has got your back. Uh recently there were some lies told about me And I didn't notice them someone else found them and sent them to me and said, do you know this is going on? And so I was able to like kind of expose it and the more you expose it The funnier it is to people and the less they're likely to believe the lies And so I was able to get that out there. I never saw it coming. I didn't see it on my own But a friend had my back and he let me know it's coming We need that I think that for uh young guys right now if you're not in a male group If you're not in a group that like in a life and death situation, they'd have your back You need to create that and if you have no idea how to create it come to 21 convention Get into that group there feel the camaraderie amongst the speakers amongst the people that attend every year and you're going to start to Understand why it's so important to be in a men's group to be in a group of men in a fraternity And you know, you don't have to have one near near you. You can make one talk to guys when you're there Ask men about that. How do I make more male friends? How do I create a group in my area? You know, if if if you come up to me, I'll talk to you about that I'll explain how to do it That's incredibly important to get having yourself protected against manipulation Just to make sure too that the guys know uh, so you're not speaking at the 21 convention technically You're speaking at 12 summit. You're speaking at two of the three events So the good news is though, these are the speakers of the 21 convention, you know, blah, blah, blah great I mean put it light nicely or lightly But they can also when they attend 21 convention, they get a free Basically get a free ticket to the patriarch convention, which is where you'll be speaking at I'll link that link up here real quick So the patriarch convention goes on at the same time same weekend And you basically get dual access complimentary access to both events And they can pick and choose to see, uh, which event they want to go to which speaker they want to go to So they can go to like, you know, 80 percent of speeches at 21 convention with that ticket But they can go see you and maybe Michael Foster or Elliott if they want Depending on how they want to do it. It's kind of like your choose your own adventure That kind of deal. I make it like a theme park basically the events So there's Elliott with his lightning eyes and then we go down to here That's where the speakers Noah's there Brian Sauve, Socrates, Jeff Younger, Coach Greg, Thanos, Foster, Elliott, Noah, Pat A lot of amazing men. These are a lot of men I respect man all you guys I haven't met everyone yet. I'm looking forward to my call Yeah, it's awesome, man And then if you're a chick you can go to 22 convention as well if you're female A birthing person Yeah What are um, what are some of the other defense defenses men can develop against manipulation? You mentioned developing a strong group that would have your back life and death, you know, whatever That's good. That's that's been true throughout all of history. I would think too by the way So let's put that in a context. Like that's not just true now. That's true always And I think it always will be as long as we're like physical human beings We're not robots or something right the singularity is coming What are some of the defense mechanisms men can develop? You all have to know who you are Uh, most men don't know who they are. I ask the man who who are you? I'll say it's a married man He goes I'm a husband and I'm a father. Okay. That's who you are to your family But who are you? Oh, I'm a man. I'm like, well, yeah, I can tell that you didn't really need to say but Who are you? And that's a tough question for a lot of men to ask Part of the reason this is it requires some introspection that might be painful because it might include some things You don't like and you know things you want to work on If you don't know who you are Then you're just sitting there waiting for some manipulator to come along and tell you who you are And as soon as they can control your identity Then they can control what you do And so you need to know who you are because who you are defines what you're then going to do in the world You need to know what you actually believe in versus what you think you believe in And so, you know, I will see Uh, I will see a lot of People claiming to believe in certain things And then you see them in private and their private life doesn't meet up with that and they're completely unaware Of that dissonance there. They're unaware of it. A man. I'm loyal to my wife You're loyal to your wife because no other woman wants you Well, you're loyal to your wife because you're a slave not because you choose to be loyal There's no it's not some code you have Yeah, she's got your balls in her purse, you know, your does that loyalty or does she own you when you're her slave? yeah, so We actually I actually want to pull up a live example right now. I think of what you're talking about And this is this guy left picking on it because he's such a beta I wish I wish the best for him in a way like could he stop being a fraud and stop being a fake fraudulent loser but anyway, this guy So if we look old school years ago, this guy kahneman sharp He ran his own channel his own kind of little brand before anyone really knew he was a fraud And it was about him and the red pill and blah blah blah But he's slowly been consumed by this jezebel Uh davon sharp a single mom pushing 50 And she's basically as one speaker put it to me that we know both Um, I'm not going to say his name, but he said she basically invaded his channel And really when he said that word invaded I'm like man, that hits the nail on the head She invaded his mind and his identity. She told him now who he's going to be So used to be kahneman sharp now. It's donovan and davon and how it's actually called how to relationship has been the whole rebranding So went from red pill, you know a fake alpha male to just completely cucked and co-owned He's basically been invaded and enslaved by this Uh 47 year old, you know single mom and it's just embarrassing to watch for a man is for content creator But a lot of what you're saying really reminds me of this because this is such a it's such a visible Or vivid example of You know someone who didn't have an identity who faked having a strong one and then was invaded and had his hind brain kind of cucked and controlled a lot like uh, you know john samas like That's another guy who got and if you actually look at his channel over time it got invaded by a chick It's not as explicit as with kahneman here But with him it's but i mean it's all about her basically It's actually become all from all about him Then it kind of split in half and now it's like 80 percent her 20 percent him as she continues to dominate the relationship He even jokes about her blueballing him and all this kind of stuff. It's very it's very sick perverse kind of relationship I I remember it seems like two years ago Where the only picture I saw of her on there was her ass He had one shot of her ass in the video and that was it and and him claiming, you know He had complete control of the relationship and you know, he would only have sex with her when she was at a weight he liked and all that and Now now this Yeah, she completely dominated him. It's pathetic Yeah, oh god. Look at it. Look at this nasty one But yeah, it's uh, yeah, it's a total domination and it's just totally fucking stupid Yeah, a picture of her ass. Yeah, I remember I posted a picture of that documentary Yeah, you're easy to dominate if you don't know who you are Because you're just a shell and you're waiting for someone to give you an identity and we see this Like we'll joke about this with people on the left where their identity is the current thing Um, but you're not immune to that that happening to you just because you're not on the left That happens to a lot of people on the right too and a lot of guys on the right their their identity is Constructed one evening like they'll still surf several channels on youtube and construct an identity and go this is now me It's not real. It's not who you are. You haven't been living that life Nope, and you what you have to do is see what life am I living and you look inside and say, okay, that's who I am That's what I am now. Do I not if I don't like it at least be honest where you are And if I don't like it, this is what I'm going to do to fix it Yeah That's very hard to manipulate you because That means someone has to come and tell you to be someone that is in congruent with who you are and as soon as they do that You know that they're manipulating you Yeah Yeah, you bring up a good point that a lot of people on the right They tend to have their identities to filled filled in by the people They're like this hollow kind of shell and they think because like oh the left they're hypocrites and blah blah blah It's like man, you are too a lot of the time You don't realize it and it's really it's painful to watch it. It's embarrassing to watch sometimes when I see The the right, you know, just kind of like a bunch of they become a bunch of zombies too sometimes, right? It's not just the left it's them too You'll you'll you think this way on this issue and you know this thing and the student loan thing was a good example That to me it's complex and nuanced because it's so It's so retarded and the government has fucked it up so bad for so long dating back to at least 1972 When they decided to give banks special privileges to make the student loans non-dischargeable and bankruptcy They gave it a special benefit that it was not deserving This then fucked up the cost of college and tuition and republicans did jack shit about this forever had no intention of ever fixing it They don't give a fuck So it's like, you know, you're bitching about all the student loan stuff and this forgiveness I get it, but you're not even taking responsibility for the for helping cause this problem And definitely doing nothing about it a year ago None of them would have cared at all about any of this stuff in terms of Updating bankruptcy code to normalize bankruptcy laws for student loans the same way a credit card or a car payment or whatever A car loan can be discharged in bankruptcy. Why do student loans get special? because of this this ridiculous bullshit worse, you know as colleges like, uh, it's basically I think a It's like a child of feminism and woke, you know, you know education is special We're gonna give special privileges to to student loans So more kids can get student loans and then be enslaved to this lifelong debt that you literally can't get rid of Unless you get your leg blown off in iraq Like that's the only time that you get rid of it is extreme hardship like you got you had a leg blown off in war So, yeah I've had so many married 30-something year old women. Tell me I will never pay off my student loans in time to have killed children and like Have a complete emotional breakdown In front of me because like I want to have kids But I still got like 75,000 left in student loans And I'll never pay that before my fertility window runs out And I can't have kids and afford to pay the love the monthly payments. It is it is serious stuff It's changing society. It's not just about money This is what willing to go to college or basically I'll losers as I see it if you went to college I wouldn't date her like if my if my girl had a college degree I would never dated her. I want uneducated pure blood home schooled woman. That's what I got, you know Yeah, my wife was at first You know when I first married her she had like a bit of an inferiority complex over the school You know, I didn't go to college and I kind of wish that I could have and you know Right now Everyone she works with has way more education than her, but she's the most indispensable person Does it burn a bunch of other ladies? They're you know working to their friends of hers are working together to educate their kids and they're doing it through a private school So basically my wife takes my kids to school and she teaches them part of the day and her friends teach them the rest of the day And this way it's kind of like the old system where women of the village would get together and educate the kids in a group Except she gets paid, which is great. So then she Is still gonna do that at home school east in florida. There's something called like co-op Where a bunch of kids from a surrounding area their homeschooled will go to someone's house For homeschooling that day. It's like five or ten kids or something like that. I didn't even know that he existed until recently Yeah, my girlfriend was homeschooled from fifth to twelfth grade Which is like really unusual to find that. Yeah I feel as though it's a bit harder, you know get along Well, this is part of the reason why she's um You you can tell she's got that energy to her that homeschool kid energy. She hasn't been crushed by the system Yeah, you know Yep. Yeah, it's um, we we were Never mind I was trying to remember what I said was gonna say like for us. It's all right So talk to me. Uh, I want to run out the I'm gonna look a little bit deeper into the table of contents here Uh, you end that you actually end one of the last chapters is a world without manipulation Talk to me about that. Is that like a brighter future where we where we get rid of this fake fraudulent bullshit in the world When we become sufficiently immune to manipulation What happens is is we get a world where people have to self-improve to have something to offer You know, they have to in the free market of life You have to offer something in order to get value because you don't have manipulation anymore as an option That creates a high trust society Where we can very quickly identify the odd person who will not conform to the no manipulation rules You know, a lot of people talk about having laws against manipulation Uh, we are probably never going to enforce those but societal pressure against it is going to be much more effective Now imagine societies where parents don't hit the kids. They don't manipulate them, but instead they teach them How to behave and how to solve their own problems and how to live and how to think Imagine a world where people have to admit When they have limitations and go and deal with those limitations Instead of pretending they're not real Imagine a world where we don't live in delusion anymore, but we live in reality And we're we're deeply connected with the real life with real world This is a world we've never experienced before. We have had higher trust societies in the past We're actually at a low ebb for this today Yeah But just the way that we have suppressed violence in society societies be much more violent even 100 years ago Uh, go even when I was a kid society was way more violent than it is now as far as people We see a lot on the news, but Generally, most people are not subjected to daily violence 200 years ago daily violence was a normal occurrence for everyone We're actually making some headway on encouraging parents not to beat their children Yeah The next frontier of improving humanity is reducing the amount of manipulation in the world Yes, and just like reducing the amount of violence in the world improve their quality of life So will reducing the amount of manipulation It'll be a world where we can trust each other again Where we can start to believe what people say and where we can have that kind of mutual cooperation and growth And we don't have to keep we don't keep getting ripped off We don't keep wasting energy on frauds and where it's almost impossible for our governments to trick us because We know a lie from the truth That's the future that I want and that's why I wrote the book Fuck yeah I'm all about it man. I mean that that is super consistent with what I believe Uh, it's super consistent with iron rand's objectivism living in reality And the elimination of force and fraud from society both need to be eliminated not just one or the other Both are bad. They both and they're both the negation of man's mind I would say And they are you know, whether it's direct or indirect. It doesn't really matter. They're both toxic and evil Yeah, I love it. I'm looking forward to reading it man. We'll get around to before the event Maybe you could sign my copy when we meet in person I will maybe depending how many people come I'll bring a copy for everybody Yeah, that'll be badass Also, too people should visit your website, which I think is this it's in the description to your twitter and your book But your website, uh, which one are using now smv 4k or is it? um noorrevoy.com but smv 4k still up. I have to I'm I'm great at the coaching. I'm not so good at the marketing I got to get somebody to condense all of my stuff and and put it make it work better. So I know a guy I had I had this exact same problem and I had too many websites as you may have known over the years We had 22 convention.com the 21 convention.com the 21 convention.org We had 22 studios.com, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, down the line It was it was this nightmare of crap And locally I actually found through mutual friend the friend of our security safety coordinator, excuse me for our events One of his friends actually helped me, uh, compress and condense and simplify everything into one website Basically was a one now 22 studios.com. I will refer him, uh, you to him. He's awesome. You should definitely talk to him My opinion, I will Yeah, and so you offer just to make sure everyone knows you also offer phone coaching and zoom coaching and stuff one-on-one Yeah, I do a lot of coaching with people one-on-one about a third of my clients are women about two-thirds are men Um, and I'm coaching more and more married couples and married people men. Um, because I'm Well, it's gotten so expensive that single guys can't always afford it Um, but it's I'm in such high demand that Uh, I had to raise my prices. I'm about three times this year three times What it was at the beginning of the year now because demand has just increased you mentioned earlier about this is the time of the Manisphere, um, this is people are desperate for help and they're looking for help and because I do a good job I'm busy all the time and I in order to balance my time out. I had to increase my rates, but uh, yeah Talk to me. The good thing is is that it's very fast Progress is quick when you have a good coach and my goal is that you don't need me forever The idea is into you know, I'm going to coach you for the next six years Like a therapist, you know, you're gonna talk about your mummy every day for every week for for six years No, this is you got something to solve. You come to me. We'll work on it 12 weeks later. It's done You never need to talk about it again. It's fixed And that's that's how I work with people and I work with people all over the world So wherever you are reach out to me and I'll tell you how we can work together Nice, I really look forward to seeing you and patch seven meet He has a is a coaching philosophy is almost identical Uh, that's what you stated in his unarticulation and that to me is a sign of a good coach and a good man Richard Granin. I think is very similar as well So you know, I like both Yeah, cool. Everyone make sure you pick up a copy of Excuse me become immune to manipulation on amazon.com And come back to 21 meet myself meet Noah I'll throw the ticket thing up here real quick. So like I said, Noah will be speaking at the patriarch convention He'll be returning now to our events. They'll also be speaking at the 22 convention for the females Is right here myself and coach greg Noah is listed on the speaker Down here along with many others Met pets that men had just mentioned a couple chicks speak at the 22 Under male supervision, of course under patriarch rule Anyway, come out to the events get a freebie ticket Well, basically when you buy one ticket you can bring a friend free or a wife or a son or a daughter Whatever you want as long as they're over 18 if they're under 18 they can actually attend to but you got to be with them at all times In the conference space Finally, a lot of you bug me about my hat So if you want hats, there's a link in the description And you can get all the hats you want or you can visit the 21 store dot com Noah you can have as many hats as you want for free when we meet up It's been a couple years since I've seen you face to face Be cool. Yeah, I'm looking. I'm uh, see if I can get an extra day on one end of the other so we can hang out a bit Yeah, yeah, I think the uh, Tuesday night you should stay through Tuesday night and leave Wednesday I'm like sure we're sort that out I have a ton of clients in Orlando actually um in Orlando and Friends in there as well and so I'll probably stay a little while and maybe an extra week even and see all my friends Fuck yeah, that'll be awesome. Yeah, we just have we have a private speakers only meeting on Tuesday night So definitely come out to that. I don't know if we did that. We didn't do that in Poland, but we'll do we do it in Orlando Yeah Everyone else next tuning in to the red man group episode 174 do visit Noah's twitter follow him there That's growing there's his website buys book all that fun stuff I'll see everyone probably next Saturday on the red man group and maybe a special episode before then with another speaker Noah, thanks for your time