 Welcome back to the First Time Homebuyer Show, I'm your host, Esti Klassen. As you know, the First Time Homebuyer Show is a platform where we get to share stories and learn from one another, grow and do and believe. As we know on the First Time Homebuyer Show, these are the stories we love to hear as they inspire and motivate us on a daily basis. And of course we do have content coming to you live every weekday this night. Every weekday at 7pm it is Zaman Tungua Kumalo with the Private Property Podcast And of course if you're interested in farming, agriculture, the life of the land, we have Umbali at 8pm every Tuesday and Thursday. And do not forget the Home Shopper Show has moved to Monday and Friday evening at 8pm. Literally it is what it says it is. Are you looking for your perfect home? Well, shop online for your perfect home as Chad goes around. Johannesburg and Twizz, absolutely amazing homes. Don't forget to comment throughout the show because tonight we're chatting to the absolutely amazing Lebukhang Le Bepe. Lebukhang is a property mogul who has a vision and a mission to restore dignity within luxury accommodation amongst our people. Good evening Lebukhang, how are you? Good evening, how are you? I'm well. Thank you so much for joining us this evening. Thank you for having me. And thank you again because I really like what I like. I love how you said in your bio that you do it for your people. What did you mean by that? I mean we need to restore our people's dignity. I mean we have been left out unattended to for a very long time. It's a high time that as people, especially as the people of Kala, we need to come take charge of our lives, don't depend on the government anymore, don't depend on free things anymore. Let's take charge of our lives, let's take things matters to our hands and bring change and positive change to our lives and make sure that our lives are better and I changed for the better in order for us to achieve whatever that we really want to achieve for ourselves. And have you done that? Yes, I have done a bit of that. I still haven't scratched the surface. I am still yet, I mean I'm in a mission, I have still had my drive to change and to bring about the change that will restore our people. So I'm just in the beginning of doing that myself. And how did you start on your journey? Or let's take it back to when did you realize that there was a problem when it came to accommodation and our standard of living as people of Kala, when did you realize that no, we need to change this and I'm going to be one of the people who make this change? I think it all goes back to the fact that I was born and raised in a squadron camp. So in what I like to call a team. Thank you.