 Don't be afraid of salt. Sodium is probably not going to hurt you. Look, in the extreme cases, yeah, you got to be careful. And unless your doctor tells you this is something you need to look at, unless you have a specific reason, stop fearing sodium. It's fine. Not only is it fine, but for those of you that work out and especially those of you that work out and eat a whole food-based diet, you're probably going to want to even add sodium to your diet for improved athletic performance, better pumps, and yes, better health. Embrace the flavor. Do you think this has reached the masses? Well, no. You know why I did this one? There's a study that's circulating right now. Everybody's freaking out over. Oh, God. I'm going to pull up the study. A more really close disinformation or misinformation. Well, I don't know the difference between the two. Here's the problem. Here's one of the big problems with studies. What is the difference? Huh? Miss or diss. Yeah, what is the difference between those? It says one, the other one a guy says. Stupid. I don't know. That's not what it is. Misinformation or disinformation. Misinformation is wrong. Disinformation is what I'm purposely trying to make. Like a CVU? Maybe. Is that what it is? Doug, look at misinformation versus diss. Am I right? So misinformation, I just, I quote something wrong. I don't know any better. But disinformation, I know better, but I'm trying to CVU. I'm trying to mess you up. I'm not the one who's doubting you, dude. I know. Thanks. He just announced. He's been here how many episodes now? All right. So look, this is the study. You fucking team him today? I was waiting for that. What are you guys doing afterwards? I don't know about it. Jesus. All day today. Don't push him. You're right. That was a bad idea. I noticed he was awfully quiet. He's going to scream again. Nobody knows what we're talking about. We're going to fight earlier. Okay. Everybody. All right. Look, so everybody's sharing the study because the study showed that every single person in the study who cut their sodium had a improvement, not a huge improvement, but had an improved improvement in blood pressure. Okay. Right away. I have a question. Yes. So did they control where the sodium came from? Or is it just like, hey, let's just measure people's sodium when they reduce their sodium. Do they get better? Okay. So I'll get into the study. But before I get into that, because you're close, and that's what I thought to him like, okay, this is weird. So first off, is lower blood pressure necessarily always better? There's arguments that could say that not necessarily. If you're in a healthy range, in fact, sometimes you can go too low. I know my wife has this where she suffers from migraines from it. And if she gets up too fast from being on the floor or something like that, she can get dizzy. My mom has this, yeah. Yeah. She'll pass out sometimes. Right. So lower isn't always better, number one. Now in this case, none of them got to that crazy place, but I just want to say that. Number two, there's other studies that show that in the context of a healthy diet active, the higher sodium intakes were healthier and people had better longevity. So those are previous studies. Nonetheless, I'm going to read to you a part of the study that I copied and pasted because here's where it gets interesting. Okay. So, and you won't see this unless you go to the actual study and read it because I read the, like the kind of breakdown on science daily. And even that doesn't tell you everything, right? And that's better than a news article. What do the news articles say? Yeah. Sodium is bad for you. Cut it. It makes you healthier. Okay. Science daily doesn't say that, but it also, it doesn't give you the detail. So I had to actually go to the actual study. The abstract. To read the actual, not even the abstract. The abstract is not even going to tell you have to really break down and go on. Yeah. So here's what it said. The high sodium, so they took, they took groups of people, obviously. The high sodium diet was achieved pragmatically by daily supplementation of each participant's usual diet with an additional two bouillon packets, each containing 1100 milligrams of sodium. So what they did is they took people and they said, don't change anything. We're going to add, we're going to add these two packets of, of sodium. Well, there's the, well, it gets better. So let's see what the other group did. Right. The low sodium diet. This is where I'm like, how are people even taking this seriously? The low sodium diet was standardized across sites and prepared in metabolic kitchens at the University of Illinois, Chicago. Okay. One week of low sodium meals, snacks and beverages were provided at no cost to participants with instructions not to consume anything outside that was provided. Okay. What? What? You changed their diet. You didn't just change the sodium. The whole diet. You changed their diet. Yes. So at the very least, the study means nothing. And not to mention that you take the average person who's eating. They are, and we've talked about this before, most people don't need to add sodium because most people eat highly processed foods. Which is always high. So if you take most people that are already consuming the upper end of sodium and they're also getting a lot of other stuff they probably don't need and eating in a surplus because that's what the normal American diet is, highly processed foods. And then you slap on an extra 1100 milligrams of sodium on that. Of course they're going to not do as well as the group that you control their diet and made it a kitchen. Good, lower sodium food. I would like to see them do the same, the sodium the same. But now you guys eat the diet that they prefer prepared for you guys eat whatever you want. Like this at the very least means nothing because the, and first by the way, they didn't show any other improvements or changes in health markers necessarily. Maybe some in the low sodium group and that tells me right there that they change that like, what did they prepare for them? I'm pretty sure they didn't prepare for them a diet that was identical to the diets that they had on their own at home. So it's terrible controls. It's totally terrible controls. Apples and oranges. Yes. And then to what you're saying Adam, like the studies that show that high sodium is bad for you. They don't control for the fact that people get their sodium from shitty food. This is not people eating whole natural foods who are also having a lot of sodium. I never have any of us had a client. They come in, you assess their diet and they're eating fast food every day, once to three times a day every day. And we go, hey, keep everything the same. But I want to pump your sodium. You're fine. Nobody. The only people we end up doing for is when you get that person who used to eat like that, you've now got them to eat all whole foods. They eliminated all the processed foods and they're bought into that and they're seeing great results in the gym. But then you realize like, oh shit, I took them from a ton of sodium that they were getting in processed food. Super low. Even if they're kind of lightly salty, even salting their food pretty well, they're getting nowhere near. And so that person I'm going, we need a supplement with sodium. We need to get that more. And you'll get better performance. And they will. Because you need a balance. You don't need to be like super low. Like you need the electrolyte balance. No, no. That's crazy to me. So the people were circulating. I'm like, don't you read like what's going on here? That's terrible. No one reads past the headline, bro. No. I mean, what I would like to see is two healthy diets, whole natural food based, controlled, higher sodium, lower sodium, and then crossover and see what happens to them and see what's, what's, you know, and look at all things. I would just look at a few points on the, you know, blood pressure, but look at other markers, look at performance, look at, you know, perception. Do you feel better? Cognition. Like all those different things. I would love to see this. Maybe, maybe element could get to a place where they actually run something like this where you have two people that have groups where they're same maintenance calories, 2,500 calories. They both eat whole foods. One of them, they lightly salt their food like, and then one of them lightly salts and adds two packets of element per day and see what happens to their performance, their health markers and everything. And I bet you the one that adds the salt in addition to all the, it feels better. Yeah. Element T, by the way, is one of our most repurchased brands. There are, our listeners will go over there, buy a product and then keep going back. Okay, that's because people are noticing like good effects. I mean, I noticed great effects from it. Great performance boost. If it's, if it's something that you know you're devoid of. Yeah. But let me tell you, like I'll give you an example. If you took the average American's diet and said nothing else, all you said to them was you got to eat less than a thousand milligrams of salt a day. And then they actually go and try and do this. Right. And they look at all the foods that they normally eat. You know what's going to happen. They would eliminate a bunch. They're going to completely change their food. They're not going to crave it anymore. No, go to the grocery store right now. Go through all the processed foods. Pick out the stuff that's low sodium. And you'll have one-tenth of the product. And by the way, by the way, okay, that's not a awful strategy to help somebody get healthier initially, to get them to cut out processed foods. So I can train or hack or trick, right? I'm not telling my client they can't have anything. I'm just going to give them these parameters and then you know as a coach and trainer that they would potentially, so I get that. That's kind of like what we talk about with adding protein. Right? I don't tell my client they can't have this, but if I tell them they have to hit their protein intake, I know what inevitably is going to happen. Right. They're going to end up getting rid of some of that processed food. So from that perspective, it's understandable. But you also have to finish educating around that, like what we just did. It's not like I tell my client just add protein and then I don't tell them what we did. You know, like, you know, what I did to you by having you do that is we've eliminated these foods and that's why, like- Yeah, heavily processed foods are like 80% of the problem when it comes to the dietary issues that we're struggling with. And the main reason is they're irresistible. Yeah. That you overeat with them. And if you look at the studies on sugar, you know, certain kinds of fats that people would say are bad for you, whatever. When your calories are low, you erase a lot of those negative issues. In fact, there's professors and scientists who I personally think are morons, but they like to prove that point. What do they do? A professor would be like, I'm going to lose 30 pounds on a McDonald's only diet. And I'm going to show you improvements in all my blood markers. And he does. Now, why? He's eating 1200 calories, right? He's eating a cheeseburger. Right. So calorie control. Yeah, yeah. So my point with that is these foods make you overeat and that's where a lot of the problems come from. So just avoiding those foods alone makes it like a million times easier. Today's program giveaway is MAPS Aesthetic. Here's how you can win. Leave a comment below this video in the first 24 hours that we drop it. Subscribe to this channel and turn on notifications. If you win, we're going to let you know in the comment section. We also have a sale going on ready for this. Cyber Monday. 60% off. Everything. All programs. All bundles. Everything. If you're interested, click on the link at the top of the description below. All right. Here comes the show. Who's got the notes on the processed food versus ozimpic? I got it. What's that on? Oh, yeah. I'll pull it up just now. Oh, right. They were getting mad, right? Because it was like their profit margins are starting to see it's eating into it, right? Like snacking as much and like going for these like processed food products. Well, Sal predicted that like about a month ago. I did. Yeah. He came out and he said, oh, watch what happens if we start. So that's why I'm asking. Yeah. So this is like something new in that regard. This is how powerful the peptide semi-glutide is, a brand name ozimpic, right? It's so effective in terms of like making people eat less that these companies are taking notice. So Nestle, Nestle is a huge company, right? They own lots of different stuff. And this is Forbes. Nestle is developing products to accompany drugs like ozimpic. Amid fears, they will eat into sales. So they're actually interesting. Here's their strategy. This is interesting. Nestle CEO. Can't beat them, join them. That's right. That's great. You got to give them credit. What do you want to do? Yeah. You got to figure it out. Hey, that's pretty. Listen to what it says. I didn't predict that cover. Did you? No. Listen to what it says. Nestle CEO Mark Schneider said in an earnings briefing he was working on a number of health aides targeted towards the growing number of people using drugs like ozimpic and we go. Smart. Who's the CEO? Who is it? Mark Schneider. Give that guy some credit. Yeah, dude. If that was his call, that was that. Check this out. This is so, now this is so brilliant. Okay. With people eating less. And this is what I would do. If I was the CEO of this company, which I wouldn't because it's, you know, shit food or whatever, but let's say I was, right? This is what I would do. I would look at this and how can we change directions or move so that we don't get crushed? Bro, let's put small package foods for less calories and do things like that. No, he's even smarter than that. Okay. Let me hear you. With people eating less, this is actually brilliant. This guy deserves an award. Schneider said there's an opening for products like supplements to support weight loss and ensure people get the vitamins, minerals and other nutrients they need, but may no longer be getting from food including. So this is some examples. Some companion products could also help limit the loss of lean muscle mass. Oh, wow. And ensure lost weight is not regained. So they're literally going to attach themselves to this and the fact that people lose muscle because. I did not see that coming. Brilliant. I did not see that coming. I mean, so if the listeners that didn't hear you say that's why CEOs. The prediction that the thing that you said, which I agreed 100% with is that here, this is like new big pharma versus big, a big food, right? Like that's, those are two behemoths in King Kong. Yes. And so, and this is this whole thing is going to oppose each other. And so when normally they're on the same page, right? You keep getting fatter and sicker. We'll give them the medicine on the back end. You keep getting fat. And so this is the first time they conflict. And so we thought what we were going to see was a bunch of propaganda on both sides of, oh, this is awful for you. Oh, this is great for you. And you'd see that, but instead you see them kind of joining forces. Interesting. What big food would want from big pharma would be a pill that made you lose weight and you ate a whole bunch of pharma. Then they'd love it. Fuck yeah. Whatever you want now. Yeah. That's also what consumers were on, right? But this one makes you eat less so they're like, oh shit. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Wow. I'm impressed. I know. I wonder how it's going to work out, right? I can see the angle now, right? Because some of the glutide, I mean it kills your appetite, you eat less. If you don't keep your protein high and you don't strength train like any diet you cut your calories, that's the best argument against it. That's right, yeah. The best argument that I've heard from the fitness space that like is not pro is like listen, people are taking this and they're finding that they're losing as much muscle. Of course. Which is, yes, absolutely. That's what happens on any diet. You take someone and you put a thousand calorie diet, they're going to lose muscle too. That's right. Right. And any of the side effects that have been substantial like the muscle or the gut paralysis is just because of like overdose. Super high dose, right? Yeah. Like they really overdo it now. There's millions and millions of people using these. And who knows, right? What potential long term whatever. It's probably okay. There's going to be risks. Yeah. Always. Always. It's probably okay. But yeah, it's interesting. It's really interesting because that's the direction I would go, right? I would go that. Except like, oh, well, we got to keep your muscle. Here's some cool muscle. Yeah. You know, we put a creatine in our. So now what will be even more interesting is it. Do other companies follow suit with Nestle? Yeah. They follow suit themselves from being the first ones to be like, you know what? Instead of the camp, we were going to join them. And then the other food companies and big. Well, isn't it? Jackie just sent me this this infographic. It was like 10 companies that own like food companies that own like all the major food. Yeah. Nestle's one of them. Yeah. Nestle's like, of course. I mean, I would assume that they're all kind of like connected and talking to each other. Or there's a hand for somewhat competitive. That's what I mean. Like maybe Nestle decides this is the route we're going to go. Maybe somebody else does the other direction, which is the propaganda. You know what this tells me on the outside? Interesting. These companies are looking to pivot because that's costing a lot of money to do that. They see it already. That means that it's having an impact. Already. This is a first time. Markets right now are really interesting. Okay. You were talking about a reverse market crash. All that does is sounds like economic growth. Yeah. If it's really a reverse. If it's the reverse. So the reason why it's called. It must be a negative thing. Considered a reverse market crash is and it's similar to like what hyperinflation would kind of look like. And that was what's happening is and what they produce. So we saw like if you were to look at today right now versus last year homes, cars, things like that, other assets, you would see there has been a dip but it was so, so high that even the dip is still putting us there. But it is now starting to level out and even climb in some areas even with bad interest rates. And then you also have that we're still going to have homes and what the Fed has came out and said recently where they said they are not going to touch rates any higher. That's kind of scary because if they hold right now and the market is not because the idea is that they keep raising rates and then it'll intentionally drop it. Yeah. We would cause a minor recession. That's what they want to see to have a more healthy economy. That's kind of what we all want, whether we think we believe that or not. But it's not happening and what I'm fearful of is that here we are coming into an election year coming up and we're holding steady on interest rates and the actual housing market is still actually slightly climbing or even staying still not dipping and driving and then they go and like let's say Q1 of next year go let's drop it half a point. Yeah because of motivation with an election year we can't let anything tank. And so what will that do? That will drive all the investors all the people that have the assets that have the cash to rush back into the market again. They'll just soup up which will then drive assets even further. And so this reverse market crash they say it's already started and it's just destroying the middle class. Well what did the what did the WEF say? You will own nothing and be happy? I mean it looks like they're moving that direction. I mean I for the first time like we've talked about this over the last few years right we've kind of gone black and forth of what we think is going to happen and what's not and I think I've jumped on both sides of oh crash no crash now I really am the most likely outcome is that we and I've mentioned this a couple times already right that I'm starting to think that we are just in an unprecedented time right now and we'll 30 years from now talk about this period of time of when you know the average person could still afford a home and then that just got out of reach for the majority. It looks like we're moving that direction. Meanwhile there are things that are happening like the car market which more likely resembles the bubble that we had in the house remember when I told you guys what they did in the car market this year how it was related to like the 08 so that happened and the same thing happened where there was tons of people buying and flipping cars so it was a big hustle to buy especially like a luxury car that was high in demand because of all the chip issues and they couldn't do it so there was a huge subset of people were buying cars brand new they would get them not put any miles on them sit on them for three to six months they would flip themselves for 23 to 30 because in the other car they'd run out that became a legit and you are now seeing and it's a dead giveaway when you see it because you'll see a car that's a year, year and a half old 500 miles on it like they're they're all flooding into the market I've been sending Doug these videos like crazy because I know what have dealerships done these videos that I sent you in the last two days like four yeah of all the breakdown of all these vehicles would you say Justin oh what have the dealerships done to so for the first time you can walk into a dealership now and get for sure whatever you want MSRP and some are even discounted oh wow so it's a good time to get a car that's why I sent it to Doug because I know Doug is kind of in the market right now and I said like listen you're going to get an opportunity to make a good offer on something that you want is this going to be your cool car dog you're going to get that one the car that you want that's the thought cool car let's do it if I can push on them a 93 Miata those were amazing those were amazing those were great yeah have you ever met have you ever met a manly guy driving one no I actually just met a dude who told me that him and his son like race him oh that would be fun there's actually a category that for them so I was a valet alright okay oh yeah and so you guys know what's the one the Villamintavo or no it's the Mount Winery yeah right right so they did concerts there and everything right that's where you were valet yeah I was there yeah but it was just kind of comical because I didn't even know who was playing that night but it was Miata after Miata after Miata after Miata after Miata and then it was like you know and it was a lot of ladies a lot of ladies a lot of ladies a lot of like short haired ladies and then I'm like okay what's that and it was like it wasn't Lilith Fair but it was like you know it was like Melissa Estridge or something and I'm like oh but it was literally the whole parking lot was like Miata so I was like apparently this is a thing you know in this community cool yeah it was the Miata Fest you must have you've driven some amazing cars then right I have yeah like okay I mean well my favorite that's why I was always telling you guys like I love like Porsche 911s because you drove one I drove one like this is all the stuff you don't tell people right it's like your fears like leaving your car with like like some young household like me and there was like this fire road like where we would test every car to be able to see you know they can handle that sort of you know hairpin turn and like some of them would fishtail some of them would like just like just handle it and you were like gold so yeah so of all the of all the car videos and car analysis that I sent the Doug so if you ever if you love a 911 this is going to be the year to buy one if you've ever won one because of all the car markets that was inflated the was the turbo 911 that's one of my favorite yeah the GT RS right that car because they still produce a decent amount of them when you compare them to like Ferrari and Lamborghini they put in that car you could get 170 to 200 turbo yeah not a brand new one yeah yeah yeah early like just pre COVID but they were going for three four hundred thousand dollars yeah yeah yeah for like obviously you can add all the bells and whistles that can easily get up to 250 or whatever like that but yeah I met a guy that had bought it for 176 right before right before COVID hit but those inflated like well over 150 MSRP and if you look right now on car gurus or whatever you know auto trader or whatever there's tons of them and they're like low mile 500 miles you know that I can put on my car there's a valet function and it'll record that's the inside and outside of the car so when you drop your car off at me I'll be like you turn that on is I'm saying I wonder how I'm going to turn that on because you know stuff happens you see that in like movies and stuff like that of course bro how old were you what were you how old were you yeah but that's like instant fire though right bro I was like 19 years old bro you imagine being a 19 year old here's my 9-11 go park this you're not going to be like I mean it depended it wasn't like an every time thing it was like oh my god with a certain cars you're like expensive ones shitty cars yeah we didn't take it on the freeway or nothing we were in there and we had like this one definitive road that were like get on it I'd be nervous being a valet I would too I see I would be nervous about driving someone's car like that and I worked with like one or two people that like crashed some cars it was bad like really oh yeah and it was and it wasn't like they got any kind of top speed or anything it was there just backing it in and underneath it was at the opera house and last guest and it was like just wham and this is the first day this one poor girl she she was working with us and it was her first day and like she got into somebody she was a valet Mercedes yeah this is like don't say the sexist I'm not a sexist I'm not a sexist you were just wrong with it he was so good at saying I could be like I'm backing it up I don't know what's happening basically scratching all the way up the side that's just brutal that'd be a funny video like a guy's going to head off his keys and it's like the girl valet he's like can I give it to what do I do there was a guy that did smash yeah so it was like both but that was that was her very first day it was like oh we can't have that we can't have that that would be awful now I imagine like in order to even have a valet service like you gotta be insured for stuff like that it's gotta be like doesn't matter I know still no the hassle you smash your car you fix it all you want no did I ever tell you guys what happened when I first got the Camaro right so this is like this is a big deal for me to get that car and everything like that and I and I hadn't driven it more than 10 miles out the radius of my house never parked it anywhere and stuff and my uncle who works for the company was just like you gotta bring it over he lived in Pleasanton 20, 30 minutes away alright cool I'll drive over so I drive over to come see him oh we're all checking the car out stuff like that and I park it now they live in this really beautiful nice neighborhood so a really nice neighborhood huge wide streets we used to play roller hockey in there all day end up having dinner with them we're at dinner and my niece is getting ready to go to a friend's house the girl comes the lady comes the house knocks on the door my niece gets in we leave and stuff like that and it's like two minutes later the doorbell rings again and she's like is that your guy's car oh no your heart bro she literally backed out of the driveway this thing it was on the other side parked and just because it was black dark oh right into my whole front fender dude oh and I just I mean I had it for me you just bought it I had just bought it dude that's just by the way people know it's a 68 super spore that's just a very collection the rain has never even hit the paint job on that thing before and so what'd you do did you walk out just like oh bro it was so devastating I cried I literally cried I cried before she did I cried you know you could tell she felt really bad you know what I'm saying it was an accident and it's like so the emotions that I had I was so angry I was so frustrated you had to let it out somehow it was a terrible place to be it was like how do I react you just have to sob I'm driving this massive dead on the way home crying why I'm never taking this outside again why I'm sorry I'm sorry birth especially at like that point in my life too because that was a big accomplishment a big deal for me I really wanted to just have the car yeah yeah so it had a lot wrapped into it it wasn't just like because if someone hit my car that would be pistant no matter but I wouldn't be like it's not the end of the world we just I told you guys a kid's car just got keyed I'm really bad I'm pissed but there's sentimental it was a milestone for you yeah did you have your name did you named the Camero you're laughing because you have everybody's Well, what I'm trying to think about is if I ever named any of my other cars But I don't think I ever Obsessed as I can be about the vehicles and so I don't think I ever Naming your car is not a chick thing, bro. That's a guy thing really in their boats. They named her cars I had a boat. I would name my boat for sure, but I don't think it is a guy thing Is it a guy thing? Yeah, it's always a female name. Well, yeah, I think so maybe I mean Justin names his guitar I do that name my guitars are all your guitars named. Yeah What's the black one? So that's Veronica and what's the that's Betty? Those are good names. Wait, hold on. That's the comic book. Yeah. Yeah, that's what's that called Archie Archie. Yeah, cool And what's the ones at home? So then I have Jessica which was before I bet you okay? I was like what? This is getting weird dude. He goes home. It's my acoustic Really uncomfortable really fast Doug if you name your stuff, do you name your swords? Well, I have not actually named you name you ever name your car Okay, yeah, I'd never I'd never people that are car enthusiasts often will name there I know both stuff for sure. That's actually you actually put a name on yeah, that's like really common Wasn't there wasn't there what country wasn't they putting out a new military ship and they had this big contest for the public and they said Whoever whatever name gets the most votes. Yeah, that was in Scotland. Yeah, but I'm gonna make water for the Bodie McBow face. Yes That was their answer to put that on the boat. I like boat name like boat names like people have come up like really original cool stuff So I think that that's actually pretty cool And I think there's something to that right like I think there's something about having like the boat name so you can Differentiate it from because there's so many boats that look a lot like white all these white boats some summer models And so having the actual name across it really differentiates It's not like a car where you have rims and different paint like so many different paint color ways like it's like pretty standard, right? What was that? There was a horror movie from Stephen King where the car had a name Classic it was like a yeah, it was like a hot rod dude. You know that one traumatized Exactly do you guys know something here? Okay, I'm going through a Elon Musk's biography right now. Oh, it's really good. Cool Christine that movie scared the shit out of me when I was a kid I don't know if I've seen that just as a car. That's possessed by demons. Oh, I definitely Kills people and stuff. So Stephen King movie. Do you know that the Elon Musk story in his supercar? No Okay, so like Elon Musk after he sold his very first company He got like I want to say 25 million at once and he's like like early 20s or what like that This was his first big deal and up to that point like I mean the guy was like sleeping at work Like he didn't have anything much as and so he went and bought himself out a million dollar McLaren Wow, that was like his first big purchase and He fucking wrecked it with Peter Till like straight rolled the motherfucker Yes, so the story goes that Peter him in it. Yes Peter till was in the car with them They're driving and he looked at me. So what can this thing do and he took you know what I like about you long I didn't even know the lawns like a he's a billionaire if you can find a picture of the car He's a billionaire bro. You know I'm saying yeah, like I feel like I hung out with him You know what I mean like you hear these stories like I could see us doing stupid shit like that You know, I mean, we're you know, oh, oh shit I was in my 20s. You can do power slide this. Yeah. Yeah. No, we're see if you can find the Oh, is that it destroyed right there look at it Oh, wow. He just rolled it Yeah, they they they fucked it up. Hey that that uh South Park episode did a great little bit on on the billionaires So they're like fighting over that's it right there. Yeah, I think so. Look at how look how bad that is. Yeah Yeah, that's crazy. Wow I mean die. Yeah him and Peter till why we could have lost two of the like great minds, huh And one fell swoop. I can't believe I had never I had never heard that story before I thought that was really interesting. Yeah, you ever see a picture of you You know, you know, he used to be balding when he was younger, right? And now he's got a lot of hair So I guess he put some plugs. Yeah, he did the thing to the hair plug. Yeah somebody was just talking about someone else that just that just did that that was on a documentary that oh the um Beckham He got hairplug. Oh, you think or whatever. Oh, that's I mean people that have followed him forever Like, oh, didn't you see what he obviously out here? Have you seen what people look like after they get that done? Well, I mean, he's a great example. He has great hair. No, no. I mean like right after. Oh, no So I know people I'm not gonna say too much, but they went to Mexico because it was cheaper It was good though. It was all legit. Well, it's like the freckle tattoo like after they're done I was like, oh, they do a pretty good job, right? I guess you can't really tell but dude the next day, bro His head look like he looked like a legit mushroom like Oh, yeah, bro. It's a nasty procedure. I mean, I it's crazy some of these things, right that we do Like I think when girls get their lips done the next day is like crazy, dude You got to hide for like a good 48 hours What happened by a whole hive of bees? What happened by the way, it used to be white hair and bald was cool for guys. Remember that? People used to do that on purpose to their hair bald bald too. No, yes, bald's never been bro Yes, it showed wisdom. I mean that's since vendy vendy's soul and loose will has made both. Yeah Other than that, it's never been cool. You can look way back as I shaved my head like all through my teens And then all the way up. Yeah, and then now it's like I never cared about But I I told you guys when I first started sharing my whole hair thing and then shaving my head like the amount of Bro, I get I still this day get DMs about that. I know like when we when I first started talking about it It was a big I was surprised on how many people I mean it makes sense now. Like how big is that market, Doug? What's the hair loss market? Oh? Is it billions? I'm sure. Yeah, it's gotta be huge. Yeah If guys only knew though like if you spent that much time energy on just getting jacked and making money You'd be No, you're right. You're right. I mean make money and or being a better person self like you self improvement You gotta go the good route. Yes, that's what I said Get jacked money dollars Get dollars everybody. I was like be a good man. Be a good person. All right. You work on that Speaking of money. Did you hear about the war? I'm gonna pull this up between open ai and google. That's happening right now Ooh No, oh, I gotta pull this up So open ai is over which one's gonna cause the well No, think about I mean, I don't know about you guys But I've trained myself to use open ai to answer a lot of my google questions Because it's way more accurate and then I don't have to use it And then I don't have to go through a bunch of websites to search the material It's the next time you guys are thinking about just google searching something use that use that And you'll get the answer versus having to find an article and then having to read the article or read Three of them decide that's the better article. I don't trust the machines Remember this one the machine up. I'm assuming that that that's what that's what the The argument is or what the well, so it's okay. It's been nice to Siri Right on purpose. Okay, so right now These artificial intelligence researchers Are super high demand because ai technology is like exploding. Okay, and every company is like trying to trying to get the best People for this But they're super high demand and they're low supply. There's not a lot of them There's not a lot of them, right? So see so they're very very high demands So check this out open ai is in battle with in a battle with google to lead the tech industry's artificial intelligence efforts They're going after These senior what they call what they call them senior artificial intelligence researchers Do you know much they're offering them to bring them over a million dollars? I bet I bet over a million Five to ten million dollars. Yeah. Yeah. Well remember when I thought it was you five to ten You who brought this up about the or somebody who we interviewed brought this up about the The difference between like a super engineer versus. Oh, yeah And so like that's one one excellent engineer will do you'll save money? Yeah, if you right so it's worth to pay a guy or a girl a million dollars a year That's a super engineer because they'll do the work of like 10 or 100 Well for something like this like if you want to you want to like you're in this battle because whoever owns is Going to be it was it was a crazy number like that So they're fighting over a few people and they're rich right open ai and google obviously have a lot of money Yeah, so you got very wealthy companies a high demand for what you do and you're not and you're one of the few people That does it you're gonna make a lot of money dug I might need you to look this up because it's um, there's this like offshore kind of boat that is storing all of these um units for basically being able to deploy like ai Units and everything and it's it's like government Funded and it's like it basically has like cloaking device can camouflage itself Like it's all to be able to prepare. So we have like this this offshore way of like deploying these things Well, wait, why would we need to I have no idea fight like bad ai with good ai. Yeah, basically. Oh, really? Yeah Oh, so it's like an emergency some kind of emergency Step that they just signed off on that's like it has you have to pull it up so I can get some more It's a government run like ai center, you know, like almost like it's like What would you call this like storage for for all of like Streaming services and all that like that they have clouds. Yeah the cloud. It's like it's basically like that But for like ai wow Wow, I was like, what are we gonna use this for it's gonna get weird I don't know if that's literally skynet or if it's like really trying to help It is gonna get really I know that we were joking the other day about the um South park episode. Yeah, but there's I mean There's a lot of There's there's a lot of truth to that possibility I mean That the the way the ai is getting as far as what it what it can create and it's just here too It's just getting you know what it's getting well a lot of people just missing it because it's just like chat Like it's it's social right now. Like they're just basically like like scouring the internet for like all the data points and everything And it's it's it's based off of what we already know But you know once it turns the corner and starts doing things and learning on its own It's a whole different thing the problem the challenge is that um that people are They're they're they're convinced that their problems go away if they had All the money and food or products that they could get and if they didn't have to work to get it Because that's the promise right the promise is a few people will own this power This power provide everything for everybody. There's no jobs. That's okay because we're gonna give you guys You know ubi money or whatever And so people are like well, that's gonna be a great life and that's psychological torture I think it is so naive to think that I've you heard me on the multiple times talk about like for some That's gonna mess with people. We think we for some reason we have positioned it in our society that To have privilege to have all the money to have all the options of that is such a better place to be like we've positioned it that way And I I think in our lifetime We will see we will get to a place where most everybody can have everything For sure all their needs and some it can be hard and I think we will we will have more depression We'll have more suicide. We'll have more anxiety more addiction more addiction We'll have more of all this bad shit that we it's that's not the answer We are we are literally wired to Be challenged and to do things that have deep meaning and if we don't have those things we're a big Trouble it reminds me of the advice you got from Arthur Brooks about You know instead of just giving money to A uh homeless person homeless person. Thank you. Yeah, you're gonna see I know I was good assistant I'm better. I paused I paused for the assist. I paused for the assist. Come on guy I gotta give you some credit for that Speaking of bums like You guys see that, you know, so shi shing ping and all these two mats are over here, right because Gavin Newsom cleaned everything miraculously. Yeah. Well, I guess like a foreign reporting Group like that that were there kind of oh, I saw this. Yeah, so they got robbed. They got robbed We should laugh a news company from uh, I forgot where it might have been One of the netherlands it might be one of the easter. I don't know But anyway, they showed up to do like media report and they come They got held up and basically had to give them all of their like recording equipment We're here to we're here to report on the safety of san francis. What what do you want? Here you have my camera. Wow Dude, it's such a shit show. Hey finishing that thought with the homeless person That's the reason why Arthur Brooks would say to you that you know Ask for them to do something for you right to give them purpose To somebody who doesn't obviously have that in their life right now and they're and they're suffering You know, I've done that too a few times. I've done that a few times where I'll give them some money And then I'll say hey, could you pray for my son or could you pray for my daughter or whatever? And the look on their face is always I mean it tells you a lot and they're like very much like Oh, yes, I could do that for I bet you have no idea what the trickle effect that is too I but I mean who knows what ends up happening that person after something like that to give them hope that Oh, I can provide something for something of value. That's right. Otherwise you feel a lot Yeah, and I just think that boy we think that we want all these answers It's just like too like and you we have so many examples and stories of this where somebody Does a new york times bestseller gets a windfall of money wins the lottery and they're more depressed or celebrities They get all the stuff they want and then they're more they're they're worse off than what they were before like There's something to be said about that. There's something to be said about actually the the fact that you can't get everything Or that you have to work towards these things and that journey towards that. Well, so You know, there's spiritual truth That you'll see that spans across religions. So whether you're christian jewish islamic buddhist You know seek whatever that the major world religions you'll oftentimes see Messages that are the similar or the same across all of them and what the religious leaders would say is that that's spiritual truth So although we may disagree on who god is and you know, some of the other details The fact that we all agree that this thing here is important shows that we've all identified like some serious spiritual truth Well, one of those things is is the message of detachment Uh, or in in you know, in christianity. They're called the beatitudes, right where You know, if you don't If you're not careful, you will worship earthly things. You will worship money power honor or pleasure and those Because you're trying to fill a spiritual hole and this is what all these religions would say in one way or another Because you're trying to fill a spiritual hole with something that is not In their case what they would say is god that you will be Frustrated and you'll want need more because it's not working and you create these addictive Patterns and anxiety and depression around those things. Um, so and by the way, uh, take it back to fitness So this doesn't sound like i'm all of a sudden leading a cult or something Um, bring it back to fitness What we say all the time that we learned is if you fall in love with and worship the results of your workouts Of looking good of getting strong of burning body fat or whatever If you fall in love with that, it will be very hard for you to maintain a healthy relationship with exercise for the rest of your life You cannot fall in love with the results. You have to fall in love with the process You recognize it's good, but also too you have to include all the other goods Yeah, so all the other things that uh are necessary to You know take you through that journey in that process It's crazy how much it parallels what we're talking about real life 100% So if here you are you're in this new world where they give you everything There's no you don't have any challenge There's really no meaning in what you're doing and now you get everything you want You're gonna figure out real hard real quick that oh, shit. This is not what I thought I heard I don't know how if I can articulate this well, but like jonathan page I was talking about like, you know adam and eve and like how You know the the fruit like where they're grabbing that the apple of knowledge, right? And really it was it wasn't the fact that God wasn't going to give them, you know The fruit it was the fact that they went to grab it for themselves, right? So like now i'm i'm creating this is my higher good And so now i'm basically worshiping this and this is where like all the problems and sin kind of arose Whoa, that's good stuff. All right. You guys want to hear something that I thought was an urban legend but turned out to be true Have you guys ever heard this urban legend? That if you're in a pool with a drain, you know, the drain sucks water Yeah, that if you like if careful don't put your butt up to it because it could suck out your insides Or somebody did that there was a story there was a story that some kid was in a pool I heard this long time ago. You guys apparently didn't put his ass on on one of those drains I heard the opposite. Hey, this really sounds like your mom coming out and you fucking around with the drain She tells you Sal put messing with the drain hole Put your pants back on Hey, listen, I just read listen. I read this story sal I wouldn't be here dude if I did that because it actually is true This happened to somebody you'll suck your butthole sucked it right out. It sucked. They're freaking they're they're like intestines and colonel Yeah, dude, that's real. Yes. Yes. I mean it makes sense physics wise. I mean that amount of pressure pulling out of the Weight volume of that will that water pulling out of a tiny little hole that is like and then the suction that creates Oh, man, we're just one of those moments. Where did you read about that? Well, you ever read something that disturbs you so much like I need to share this Thank you, Sal. So we feel sorry everybody I just everybody listen to the podcast It's like when I brought up bot flies on here and I just never seen all the comments like, oh, you ruined my whole Yeah, but you just ruined everybody's commute We're supposed to do it organified. Oh, hey, it's gonna be so mad. It's great. I was lost like the audience Hold on. I want to hear you say this the for all you remaining. What's the flavor? Uh pumpkin spice. Oh, you said it Bro, I didn't try to set me up. You said on purpose now. Do you make fun of my list? You always say with an end Plankin sounds cuter. No, they got the dyslexic. They've got no no, maybe feel bad They got pumpkin spice. Uh, they're gold juice. It's delicious. Yes, they you know, it's cool what they do I actually didn't know this I was on their website like checking up to see what new products they have Um, they actually have a section that you can search supplements based off a goal So I said Doug a screenshot of like all there's quite a few different categories like like a muscle gain fat loss Yes, yeah, and then it then it categorizes all the supplements that support. Oh, look at that Yeah, see recovery mood stress weight management metabolism Look at women's wellness energy performance brain health clarity. That's smart. Isn't that cool? What if what if every category had all the stuff? Strange That'd be a dirty hat in all the categories if you sell one supplement click on the category Oh, no, that's cool. Look at that. Yeah, and then they have and they yeah They stack and bundle some of them. So I thought that was pretty neat. Oh, yeah Good stuff. They're they're they do a good job. What is she legit? Huh? Yeah, she legit would be like the wellness. Do they have a vitality section? Doug scroll back again What would be the category performance or mood and stress maybe um mood and stress maybe Uh mood and stress would be a good that's a good good guess Let's see They may not have it up yet. Oh might not be up yet. They sold them out Yeah, I saw it on the front when you first log in. Wow Cool. Hey, uh, did we talk? I didn't know they have uh essential magnesium Yeah, they do. I didn't know that they have a lot of products. We don't talk about like half their products Yeah, I didn't buy it. It's so bad. Well, it's because we only we only talk about what we use I know I don't know. Yeah, I mean I would actually I would have that even though I take my magnesium through mellow I do there are times where I wish I had a pill form. Oh, I see. Yeah, there are there are times when like I forget And then I I I'm trying to shut like you guys heard me talk about shutting my water off Like if I keep drinking too late, I get up in the bathroom And so the one thing I don't like about That is if I forgot to take my mellow a little bit earlier, then I'm like right before bed I'm drinking a whole thing of water and that doesn't obviously help Is that I know you say you have a small bladder Is that a real thing that some people have a small bladder or is that just what you I know you do pee a lot, but you've always been this way by the way It's actually you know it runs in the family, right? I know that's what I was asking Yeah, I wonder if that's a real thing I don't I don't know if I don't know if there's a direct correlation to like a small bladder You know, that's what I say. Let's say I have no idea if like I mean it could be like it sounds like that could be a thing For sure Yeah, because if you develop this as you got older, then I'd be like, well, you probably should get right now I know it's genetic like I said because literally me my uncle and my two cousins like we all are exactly the same It's the funniest thing too when we all go to like do a restaurant together like no one's ever sitting down the table There's always one guy up. Yeah, it's a whole the funniest thing you've ever seen like if my uncle too Cut what is it? Anatomically, it's highly unlikely. Anyone has a small bladder. Yeah, see I don't so you know what it might be You might not produce enough of these hormone that makes you uh, aldastarone. Is that it dug? Look it up that makes you Withhold fluid when you sleep your body will reduce will release it and then for some people they might not produce it And so they have to get up and pee. Is it aldastarone? Yeah, you got it. Oh my god Why can't I remember anything? Why is my wife telling me to do something and I forget right away, but then I remembered so I may be wrong here So a hormone your adrenal glands release that helps regulate blood pressure by managing the levels of sodium and potassium in your blood I don't know if that has anything to do with urine. So yes, it does I had so I had someone tell me that if I add salt to the water should help me not have any gop as much too So I haven't been good enough. I wonder what I don't know how So like your last glass of water I would I would do I know with the mellow though. I wonder if that would taste good. Maybe if I did the the flavorless I know you're like But I mean I didn't even know I didn't even know that organify how to those those pills I would have both because I prefer mellow, but if there there's bend times where I'm like damn I don't want to drink and they go well together sodium magnesium go well together Okay, yeah, they both help each other out. So that would be good. Got it. Speaking of salt. Have you ever heard of halo therapy? No, but I heard you talking about it. Like so what this has to do with salt mines Yeah, when you when you go and I'll pull it up. So I've heard about this before Because who was it? Who is our president world war two? He had polio Roosevelt, thank you He had he would go to these he was super into exercise He was trying to cure himself through fitness and nutrition And he would go to these like wellness places that existed back then which are kind of cool And a lot of them would have you go in these salt mines To breathe in the air that's in them and it's it's actually legit So is that okay? So now on the woo-woo side of things that that whole category of people have those salt lamps and lights and all the time So that's probably where the the benefit is probably less of you with the aura and spirits and ions that are going on And more sounds are real Give us stuff, I don't know about Neutrons Magical No, it says here So when you breathe in the air that's got tiny salt particles It tends to help people with lung problems like asthma, bronchitis and coughs It also can help people feel relaxed So it has an effect on people like that and helps with skin conditions and allergies So is this all in the same category too as somebody who does salt baths? Oh, that's a good question. I mean you're not bringing breathing it in, but I know that that has a different effect Yeah on the body But isn't that interesting so it came from it's a in the 12th century the practice of visiting salt caves for therapeutic reasons Was calm in an easter mirror It's a murky losus part of that because I know like being in sun right in in dry areas was uh I guess like something that People that were suffering from that kind of like found their way towards oh, I don't know about that Okay, yeah, I know it no idea. Oh, there is there is a what wet salt therapy It involves bathing in salty water containing minerals and then gargling with did you see the study on gargling with salt water and covid Did you guys see this that just came out? No, but I've had google somebody salt water gargle covid Study, I know I heard that actually the whole like rinse like sinus rinse and then also with the mouth rinse Significantly, yeah, I mean that makes sense because you would inhale Do you remember people saying that and getting kicked off social media and told that they were uh, this is the annoying Yeah, I do misinformation bullshit It actually thrown on every video reduced infection and then reduced the severity When people did have it new study gargling with salt water may help prevent covid hospitalization They were telling you not to imagine if that came out. Could you imagine if that just that? Oh man, yeah, that's what's frustrating man, and that's where it's like Oh, we want to have like it's more frustrating that people are still looking up to it. Oh, that's the part I feel bad, dude I can't I feel bad for them. I can't like it cannot help somebody who still is like Like actually believes that we just now figured this out You don't say that. Yeah, but there wasn't already people talking about all this stuff And we need and we needed all that time to flesh out all the stuff So now we now it makes sense. That's like dude. You guys are man Jesus just missing all valid treatments, you know that we're like everywhere else in the world You know there's no reason doesn't work here I saw a couple articles that are happening because holiday season is coming up and it's like literally there's articles No, I hope nobody's taking these seriously, but it's they say things like Uh Thanksgiving's coming up Should you wear a mask or how to get your family that won't wear a mask to put one on when they come visit you during the Christmas holiday or something like that Come on, dude, I mean it's popped up. I mean it's uh, you know, I know that already that there's definitely More cases recently because I can see already with the the behaviors around people I've seen more mass in the last like couple weeks that I had seen in probably the last three months before that So obviously it's fine. We know who we're working with. Yeah, all right. Who's our shout out for today? Do we got one? Uh, are we we're how about the trainer things? Oh, yeah, let's keep talking about here about this I'll give you this I'll give you a real shout out and then still plug the trainer thing Elon's book. I'm like, I don't know what's it called It's just his biography the author is um, give it to you right now It's the newest one. It's one with his his big old head on the front of it It sounded bad. I didn't mean it like that the author The author is a Walter Walter Isaacson So it's just it's literally elan musk. That's the name of it and it's it's the author is Walter Isaacson He grew up kind of rough too, right? Yeah a lot of fights Uh I mean his his dad eventually had a decent amount of money, but they grew up in a rough area And it had a kind of an unconventional Way of like raising him like I remember he got his ass kicked one time at school and his dad was like yeah, you deserve that You call the kids stupid. So I mean they it's it's pretty interesting like a lot of things I didn't know I mean I shared one of the stories already. I didn't know about him going through it. So awesome It's good. And the other thing is that you know, I'm doing a three-part Train the trainer series that you can sign up for it's free. It'll be virtual and it'll be live You go to mind pump trainer calm register and it's happening When is it january 15th? It's the first day, right? And it's the next two days after that. So it's 15 16 17 So get yourself signed on it Joy mode is a product that uses real ingredients that actually have been proven to work To boost blood flow all over the body including In those important areas during those intimate times. So joy mode actually works the data Shows it go check them out go to joy go to use joy mode Dot com forward slash mind pump use the code mind pump get 20 off your order. All right back to the show First question the ben melton Are your programs designed to have the same weight throughout all sets or do you adjust it? So it says heavy as possible for each set in that rep range. I'm glad somebody one of you picked this I didn't realize that we needed to address this until we got a couple people and live callers that Were mentioning that they're like, yeah, I'm not getting any stronger. I'm doing the same way through the whole program Like, oh, you know, you're a lot stronger. Yeah No, the the the the goal is to stay within the rep range that we provide you with the Intensity that we tell you to work with so for most of our programs you're going to try to stop your sets About two reps short a failure. So whatever weight With perfect form that you could do with that will let you allow you to hit that rep range that we have in the phase That is within that intensity. That's it. So if you do a hundred limit yourself, right? So if it says, you know, if it says 10 to 12 reps and you pick 100 pounds and you get to 15 Well, then you got to have to add weight or if you put 100 pounds you get down You only get to eight well now you have to make it a little lighter and and keep in mind that this also can fluctuate based off of your week like let's say, you know last week you did 10 reps of 185 on squats But you had a rough week a lot of stress didn't get enough calories in didn't get good sleep And then you come into the gym and you put that 185 on and you can't get more than eight reps It doesn't mean that you stick to that 185 just because so and this is by the way This is why we in our programs We don't have like do 20 of your max rep and we have these formulas that are like You know precisely should choose this weight because you you you need to learn To adjust your weights based off of you feel and we try and teach people like how to feel what Too short two reps short of failure should feel like and then you need to learn to adjust the weight We do have and I know like most of the programs and we should have it up If not, like there's a downloadable way to be able to actually track it right down the weights that you used for each one of these Exercises and it would be a valid practice To go through that just to kind of see where you're at instead of just going with what's comfortable Right away like you can you set an intention on i'm going to try and challenge myself and go five pounds more a little 10 pounds More this time and then you know press and see where you end up with that And then once you kind of like see how that all works and you start being able to feel The way your body's going to respond before you get to there or uh, like, you know Your stress levels all that kind of stuff as you factor in Uh, that's going to help you adjust the weights more accurately But I will say this if you actually Can go through maps anabolic and keep the same weight that you did in in phase one reps each time And then hit the reps that we yeah, then hit the reps that we say in phase two You're getting much stronger and that would be it goes from one to five to six to eight to 28 That would be impressive really impressive So you're if you did that by accident because you just thought you're supposed to uh, that's a huge win most people By the time they get to phase two they have to reduce the weight a bit say 20 to 30 percent And then when they get to phase three, they have to reduce the weight another 20 to 30 percent That's pretty normal and that's really good still So if you're at all able to maintain the same weight as you increase reps You are getting significantly stronger. It's like when your friend tricks you and puts kilograms on yeah You're like, oh, wow I did a lot more next question is from graceful telekinesis What do you think about doing only conceptor concentric exercises for a month or two? What kinds of results either negative or positive would come from only doing this for a phase Okay, so concentric is referring to the part of the rep where you're lifting the weight Ecentric would be when you lower it and then isometric means it's it's steady. You're just holding it So the question is what if I just did the lift part right? What if I didn't do the controlled lowering part and I just lifted the weight? Well, what would happen is a lot less muscle damage Much faster recovery and you would probably lifting basically yeah, and you would need to adjust your programming accordingly because The eccentric sends a loud muscle building signal, but also causes the most damage So if you're only doing positive or concentric reps, you're probably going to have to bump the volume and the frequency To equal the same kind of I guess stimulus now that being said Just working on the concentric can make you explosive. It's got some athletic potential I think for a month or two is totally fine. I don't think anybody should always train in one You know type of contraction, but I think for a month of doing this You'll probably learn how to be quite explosive. It would be my guess Yeah, I mean I think the positives is I think I mean this is what makes training fun And interesting is to play with variables like this like hey, you know I'm going to go all concentric training for a month or two and see what kind of benefits I get from it Staying like that for a long period of time not good The studies all show that the eccentric portion of the exercise does the most damage builds the most muscle So if you're looking for hypertrophy, it would be not in your best interest to probably do that for a long period of time So I wouldn't neglect that That's really the only the only negatives that I see from it But as far as like you messing with this for a little bit I think your acceleration potential right in that that snap that a lot of athletes are trying to get You know being in that focus of just the concentric portion of each exercise of movement very valid, you know very Much of a a method that I've used before with athletes But yeah, you also have to then you know realize that like the eccentric part That's you know, you have to be able to decelerate that too now. We got to bring under control. So Um, you know, there's that's one component. It's great to hyper focus on that But uh, you know, there's a there's a shelf to that. Yeah, totally I mean a sled would be good for something like this Uh, not just for lower body, but you could also do sled pulls sled presses way to do it Yeah, that would be a really easy way in the olympic lifts Obviously or it was like a medicine ball too. It's a good way to do Next question is from Foveal castle, how can I increase healthy fat intake without adding too many calories to my diet? Well, if you add healthy fats, you're gonna add calories But if you switch out the fats that eating for better fats or healthier fats switch it from carbs Then you're or or yeah or cut the calories out from carbohydrates. Then you're you're doing great. So Some people a lot of people benefit from uh, you know, especially people who are listening, right? Pete with if the typical listener likes to eat a lot of protein Whole food diet might eat a lot of red meat, you know switching out some of that red meat for fatty fish Um oftentimes has some inflammatory benefits for some people You know, whenever I've had a client who I've assessed their diet and they're under consuming fat I've never had to take the calories from somewhere else and then Give it to them in fat I've always been able to bump the healthy fat and the body actually positively responds So if their goal was to now it's healthy, exactly So I I don't know if I I don't know enough about this to for sure be about what I'm saying But more often if you think that you're under eating healthy fats because either we told you a nutritionist told you or someone You've pieced it together and figured out. Oh, wow. I'm under eating fats And you're concerned about going over your calories by adding healthy fats in the diet I wouldn't be to be honest. Yeah, I would actually see It's not just that because you're you're you're malnutrition You're not if you're if you're not getting enough healthy fat And I've seen this many times with like small thin female clients of mine that we're eating 25 grams 30 grams of fat All day and we're not seeing any we're not getting any leaner We're not getting any stronger They're like they don't feel good and I all I do is go like I want an avocado in there and some salmon or like Some steak in there and I and I don't care that our calories went up 300 400 calories. They get leaner. They get stronger Here's the comparison, right? You have a because fats are essential. Okay, so you you have to consume fats. Otherwise your body literally Fails to thrive and in extreme cases you'll die, right? So you're not eating enough fat that means your hormone profile is not where it should be It means your metabolic system is dysfunctional It literally means that you're putting yourself in a position Where you're not going to be able to adapt To exercise as well to food intake as well Your body's probably in a stress state. So it'll probably want to hold on to body fat Probably will slow down your metabolism, right? So now you increase your calories by increasing fats But now you're getting the adequate fat that you need Yes, you're eating more calories But now because you're healthy metabolic rate changes hormones change and things work better So you don't gain weight from the extra calories if anything you get a little leaner That's been my experience again. I've had the same we don't know everything for this person But I normally would do that first Before I'm like trying to take away from something else because I'm worried that Taking them from 2,200 calories to 2,500 or say 1,600 calories to 18 or 1,900 calories Is because that's not going to get you fat overnight By the way, like literally bumping your healthy fats a little bit in your diet because you're under eating them The extra 300 to 400 calories is not going to make you fat and definitely not going to make you fat overnight And most often than not I want to see what just doing that does for the bot Next question is from ec betz sauna versus walking Sauna gets my heart rate higher in 20 minutes than a 20 minute walk Yeah, you can have you can smoke crystal math your heart rate Yeah, the heart rate going up or down doesn't doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter So, okay the question I guess I think the question they're asking this is really like a calorie burn thing Is there hell like what are the health differences? Maybe because both get different health. They're both good for you But walking is going to give you More physical adaptations more stamina more strength Digestion there's all kinds of uh excess of benefits to walking I gotta have pairs walking circles in the sauna Yeah Well, I mean in place look they've called sauna Some people have said that sauna sends a almost Low-level exercise signal to the body. Yeah, yeah, you know, and that's an exercise mimicking signal Yeah, yeah, and that's that's true But you're not you can't you're not going to get from the sauna What you get from exercise well And a lot of that is the amount of calories that your body has to use to try and regulate your temperature, right? I mean you you increase your core temperature significantly that sends a signal the body like oh, shit We're overheating so the body's going to do what it needs to do to cool down that Takes energy to do that. So that's where they get that. Oh, this is like simulating a workout or somewhat. There's that There's a heat shock proteins that are produced as a vasodilation that happens and strengthening the heart Through the process. It's really good for the vascular. Yeah, the vascular system benefits. Yeah, sauna You seems to have really really interesting effects in a perfect world though. This wouldn't be an either or for me This would be both. Yeah, both like I mean if you let's say you Let's say you've dedicated 20 minutes every day that you've disciplined yourself To always walk and you also have access to a sauna. I mean Three to four of those days. I'm gonna walk and then two to three days Maybe I'm gonna get in the sauna like I mean I why not why not alternate those if you if if you only have that time And you could do either or then I think there's value in in doing both of them Yeah, by the way, there's a have you guys ever tried this for a really sore Muscle you put really really hot water on it and then you go really cold water And you alternate back and forth you guys ever try this it works. So we were talking about the sauna You know vasodilating opening blood vessels cold does the opposite it constricts So the back and forth you're pumping out a bunch of blood. Yeah, yeah, and you're pumping Yeah, it'd be interesting to see that what a fun study. I don't know if there's a study on it Well, it would be a fun study would be to compare that to somebody who's like doing like body weight exercise Or or mobility through because you're gonna get the same that's gotta be way better Of course, yeah, look if you love the show head over to mind pump free calm and check out all of our free fitness guides We have a lot of them. They're all free. You can also find us on instagram. Justin. Is that mind pump Justin? I'm at mind pump to stephano and adam is that mind pump adam?